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Proverb (GB) × Primrose Walk (GB) (Charlottown (GB))
Sex
gelding
Foaled
1985
Highest OR
87
Record (GB & IRE)
1 win from 11 runs (9%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£3,628 GB
Last official rating
87 (Jumps)
Last run (GB & IRE)
28 Jan 1994, Doncaster (PU/11)
Last win (GB & IRE)
27 Jan 1993, Wolverhampton
Recent form
15922216PU54PU

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtORHeadgearWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
28 Jan 94DoncasterPU/118/1-Peter NivenJ A C EdwardsSandall Beat Novices' Handicap ChaseHandicap (unclassified)Chase3mGood to Soft10-787bRoad By The River I (IRE)£3,430630/9
26 Nov 93Bangor-on-Dee4/920/116Peter NivenJ A C EdwardsReach Recruitment Novices' ChaseNon-handicap (unclassified)Chase3mGood11-0--Mr Flanagan (GB)£3,204161/8
10 Nov 93Worcester5/833/1distNorman WilliamsonJ A C EdwardsAga Worcester Novices' Chase Grade 2Non-handicap (unclassified)Chase2m7fSoft11-1--See More Indians (GB)£7,6082012/7
23 Apr 93PerthPU/75/1-Peter NivenJ A C EdwardsTayside Hotel Novices' HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle3mHeavy11-0--Lion Of Vienna (GB)£2,255740/6
8 Feb 93Wolverhampton6/1213/8F26Norman WilliamsonJ A C EdwardsCanning Novices' HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle3m1½fSoft11-4--Wadeley (GB)£1,484122/10
27 Jan 93Wolverhampton1/146/4Jwon hdM HouriganJ A C EdwardsStaying Conditional Jockeys' Novices' HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2m7fSoft10-12--Faithful Star (GB)£1,484182/12
9 Jan 93Haydock2/1020/110Norman WilliamsonJ A C EdwardsGarstang Novices' HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2m6fSoft11-0--Lo Stregone (GB)£2,4086233/9
27 Apr 91Worcester2/237/11D TeggJ A C EdwardsBattenhall Novices' HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle3mGood to Firm11-3--Rocktor (NZ)£2,337240/17
3 Apr 91Worcester2/1925/17Norman WilliamsonJ A C EdwardsMusket Novices' Hurdle (Div I)Non-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mGood to Firm11-2--Far Over Struy (GB)£2,1313210/17
17 May 90Perth9/1720/125¼Mr P McMahonJ A C EdwardsGillie Bros Forfar National Hunt FlatNon-handicap (unclassified)NH Flat2mGood11-6--Storm Island (GB)£1,730282/15
19 Apr 90Ayr15/2016/1distMr C SampleJ A C EdwardsLevy Board National Hunt FlatNon-handicap (unclassified)NH Flat1m5½fHeavy11-6--Dakyns Boy (GB)£2,478-0/18
  • PU/1128 Jan 94 · Doncaster8/1

    Sandall Beat Novices' Handicap Chase

    Handicap (unclassified)3mGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    28 Jan 94
    Course
    Doncaster
    Pos
    PU/11
    SP
    8/1
    Btn
    -
    Race
    Sandall Beat Novices' Handicap Chase
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    3m
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    10-7
    OR
    87
    Headgear
    b
    Winner prize
    £3,430
    Days
    63
    Future form
    0/9
  • 4/926 Nov 93 · Bangor-on-Dee20/1

    Reach Recruitment Novices' Chase

    Non-handicap (unclassified)3mGood

    All fields
    Date
    26 Nov 93
    Pos
    4/9
    SP
    20/1
    Btn
    16
    Race
    Reach Recruitment Novices' Chase
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    3m
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    11-0
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Mr Flanagan (GB)
    Winner prize
    £3,204
    Days
    16
    Future form
    1/8
  • 5/810 Nov 93 · Worcester33/1

    Aga Worcester Novices' Chase Grade 2

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m7fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    10 Nov 93
    Course
    Worcester
    Pos
    5/8
    SP
    33/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Aga Worcester Novices' Chase Grade 2
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m7f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    11-1
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner prize
    £7,608
    Days
    201
    Future form
    2/7
  • PU/723 Apr 93 · Perth5/1

    Tayside Hotel Novices' Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)3mHeavy

    All fields
    Date
    23 Apr 93
    Course
    Perth
    Pos
    PU/7
    SP
    5/1
    Btn
    -
    Race
    Tayside Hotel Novices' Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    3m
    Going
    Heavy
    Wgt
    11-0
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner prize
    £2,255
    Days
    74
    Future form
    0/6
  • 6/128 Feb 93 · Wolverhampton13/8F

    Canning Novices' Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)3m1½fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    8 Feb 93
    Pos
    6/12
    SP
    13/8F
    Btn
    26
    Race
    Canning Novices' Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    3m1½f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    11-4
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Wadeley (GB)
    Winner prize
    £1,484
    Days
    12
    Future form
    2/10
  • 1/1427 Jan 93 · Wolverhampton6/4J

    Staying Conditional Jockeys' Novices' Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m7fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    27 Jan 93
    Pos
    1/14
    SP
    6/4J
    Btn
    won hd
    Race
    Staying Conditional Jockeys' Novices' Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m7f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    10-12
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Faithful Star (GB)
    Winner prize
    £1,484
    Days
    18
    Future form
    2/12
  • 2/109 Jan 93 · Haydock20/1

    Garstang Novices' Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m6fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    9 Jan 93
    Course
    Haydock
    Pos
    2/10
    SP
    20/1
    Btn
    10
    Race
    Garstang Novices' Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m6f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    11-0
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Lo Stregone (GB)
    Winner prize
    £2,408
    Days
    623
    Future form
    3/9
  • 2/2327 Apr 91 · Worcester7/1

    Battenhall Novices' Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)3mGood to Firm

    All fields
    Date
    27 Apr 91
    Course
    Worcester
    Pos
    2/23
    SP
    7/1
    Btn
    1
    Jockey
    D Tegg
    Race
    Battenhall Novices' Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    3m
    Going
    Good to Firm
    Wgt
    11-3
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Rocktor (NZ)
    Winner prize
    £2,337
    Days
    24
    Future form
    0/17
  • 2/193 Apr 91 · Worcester25/1

    Musket Novices' Hurdle (Div I)

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2mGood to Firm

    All fields
    Date
    3 Apr 91
    Course
    Worcester
    Pos
    2/19
    SP
    25/1
    Btn
    7
    Race
    Musket Novices' Hurdle (Div I)
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Good to Firm
    Wgt
    11-2
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner prize
    £2,131
    Days
    321
    Future form
    0/17
  • 9/1717 May 90 · Perth20/1

    Gillie Bros Forfar National Hunt Flat

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2mGood

    All fields
    Date
    17 May 90
    Course
    Perth
    Pos
    9/17
    SP
    20/1
    Btn
    25¼
    Race
    Gillie Bros Forfar National Hunt Flat
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    11-6
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Storm Island (GB)
    Winner prize
    £1,730
    Days
    28
    Future form
    2/15
  • 15/2019 Apr 90 · Ayr16/1

    Levy Board National Hunt Flat

    Non-handicap (unclassified)1m5½fHeavy

    All fields
    Date
    19 Apr 90
    Course
    Ayr
    Pos
    15/20
    SP
    16/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Levy Board National Hunt Flat
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    1m5½f
    Going
    Heavy
    Wgt
    11-6
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Dakyns Boy (GB)
    Winner prize
    £2,478
    Days
    -
    Future form
    0/18

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
26 Nov 93Bangor-on-DeeReach Recruitment Novices' Chase4/9Run Up The Flag (GB)-4 Dec 93WetherbyDick Warden Novices' Chase
10 Nov 93WorcesterAga Worcester Novices' Chase Grade 25/8See More Indians (GB)110 Dec 93CheltenhamAllied Dunbar Novices' Chase
10 Nov 93WorcesterAga Worcester Novices' Chase Grade 25/8Gaelstrom (GB)-1 Mar 95WetherbyMarston Moor Chase Limited Handicap Grade 2
8 Feb 93WolverhamptonCanning Novices' Hurdle6/12Meleagris (GB)222 Feb 93WolverhamptonPlaying Fields 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle
8 Feb 93WolverhamptonCanning Novices' Hurdle6/12Balloo House (GB)-25 Feb 93CatterickMiddleham Novices' Hurdle
27 Jan 93WolverhamptonStaying Conditional Jockeys' Novices' Hurdle1/14Faithful Star (GB)218 Feb 93LeicesterOadby 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle
27 Jan 93WolverhamptonStaying Conditional Jockeys' Novices' Hurdle1/14Ercall Miller (GB)58 Mar 93WolverhamptonPatshull Novices' Handicap Hurdle
9 Jan 93HaydockGarstang Novices' Hurdle2/10Lo Stregone (GB)123 Jan 93HaydockGarswood Novices' Hurdle
9 Jan 93HaydockGarstang Novices' Hurdle2/10Wadeley (GB)48 Feb 93WolverhamptonCanning Novices' Hurdle
9 Jan 93HaydockGarstang Novices' Hurdle2/10Toogood To Be True (GB)722 Jan 93CatterickEBF 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Qualifier
17 May 90PerthGillie Bros Forfar National Hunt Flat9/17Book Of Runes (GB)217 Nov 90AyrGrunwick Stakes National Hunt Flat
17 May 90PerthGillie Bros Forfar National Hunt Flat9/17Jacqueline's Glen (GB)1016 Oct 90SedgefieldGrunwick Stakes National Hunt Flat
  • 4/926 Nov 93 · Bangor-on-Dee

    Reach Recruitment Novices' Chase

    All fields
    Date
    26 Nov 93
    Race
    Reach Recruitment Novices' Chase
    This horse
    4/9
    Winner next time
    Run Up The Flag (GB)
    Their pos
    -
    Won on
    4 Dec 93
    Race won
    Dick Warden Novices' Chase
  • 5/810 Nov 93 · Worcester

    Aga Worcester Novices' Chase Grade 2

    All fields
    Date
    10 Nov 93
    Course
    Worcester
    Race
    Aga Worcester Novices' Chase Grade 2
    This horse
    5/8
    Winner next time
    See More Indians (GB)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    10 Dec 93
    Race won
    Allied Dunbar Novices' Chase
  • 5/810 Nov 93 · Worcester

    Aga Worcester Novices' Chase Grade 2

    All fields
    Date
    10 Nov 93
    Course
    Worcester
    Race
    Aga Worcester Novices' Chase Grade 2
    This horse
    5/8
    Winner next time
    Gaelstrom (GB)
    Their pos
    -
    Won on
    1 Mar 95
    Race won
    Marston Moor Chase Limited Handicap Grade 2
  • 6/128 Feb 93 · Wolverhampton

    Canning Novices' Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    8 Feb 93
    Race
    Canning Novices' Hurdle
    This horse
    6/12
    Winner next time
    Meleagris (GB)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    22 Feb 93
    Race won
    Playing Fields 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle
  • 6/128 Feb 93 · Wolverhampton

    Canning Novices' Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    8 Feb 93
    Race
    Canning Novices' Hurdle
    This horse
    6/12
    Winner next time
    Balloo House (GB)
    Their pos
    -
    Won on
    25 Feb 93
    Race won
    Middleham Novices' Hurdle
  • 1/1427 Jan 93 · Wolverhampton

    Staying Conditional Jockeys' Novices' Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    27 Jan 93
    Race
    Staying Conditional Jockeys' Novices' Hurdle
    This horse
    1/14
    Winner next time
    Faithful Star (GB)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    18 Feb 93
    Race won
    Oadby 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle
  • 1/1427 Jan 93 · Wolverhampton

    Staying Conditional Jockeys' Novices' Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    27 Jan 93
    Race
    Staying Conditional Jockeys' Novices' Hurdle
    This horse
    1/14
    Winner next time
    Ercall Miller (GB)
    Their pos
    5
    Won on
    8 Mar 93
    Race won
    Patshull Novices' Handicap Hurdle
  • 2/109 Jan 93 · Haydock

    Garstang Novices' Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    9 Jan 93
    Course
    Haydock
    Race
    Garstang Novices' Hurdle
    This horse
    2/10
    Winner next time
    Lo Stregone (GB)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    23 Jan 93
    Race won
    Garswood Novices' Hurdle
  • 2/109 Jan 93 · Haydock

    Garstang Novices' Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    9 Jan 93
    Course
    Haydock
    Race
    Garstang Novices' Hurdle
    This horse
    2/10
    Winner next time
    Wadeley (GB)
    Their pos
    4
    Won on
    8 Feb 93
    Race won
    Canning Novices' Hurdle
  • 2/109 Jan 93 · Haydock

    Garstang Novices' Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    9 Jan 93
    Course
    Haydock
    Race
    Garstang Novices' Hurdle
    This horse
    2/10
    Winner next time
    Toogood To Be True (GB)
    Their pos
    7
    Won on
    22 Jan 93
    Race won
    EBF 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Qualifier
  • 9/1717 May 90 · Perth

    Gillie Bros Forfar National Hunt Flat

    All fields
    Date
    17 May 90
    Course
    Perth
    Race
    Gillie Bros Forfar National Hunt Flat
    This horse
    9/17
    Winner next time
    Book Of Runes (GB)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    17 Nov 90
    At
    Ayr
    Race won
    Grunwick Stakes National Hunt Flat
  • 9/1717 May 90 · Perth

    Gillie Bros Forfar National Hunt Flat

    All fields
    Date
    17 May 90
    Course
    Perth
    Race
    Gillie Bros Forfar National Hunt Flat
    This horse
    9/17
    Winner next time
    Jacqueline's Glen (GB)
    Their pos
    10
    Won on
    16 Oct 90
    Race won
    Grunwick Stakes National Hunt Flat

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardOR first runOR last runBest ORRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
J A C Edwards19 Apr 9028 Jan 9415/20878787111309.1%36.4%£3,628€0
J A C Edwards
First run
19 Apr 90
Last run
28 Jan 94
First run for yard
15/20
OR first run
87
OR last run
87
Best OR
87
Runs
11
Wins
1
2nd
3
3rd
0
Win %
9.1%
Place %
36.4%
Prize GB (£)
£3,628
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)Best ORFirst runLast run
National Hunt111309.1%36.4%£3,628€08719 Apr 9028 Jan 94
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
11
Wins
1
2nd
3
3rd
0
Win %
9.1%
Place %
36.4%
Prize GB (£)
£3,628
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Best OR
87
First run
19 Apr 90
Last run
28 Jan 94

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Hurdle613016.7%66.7%£3,400€0
Chase30000.0%0.0%£228€0
NH Flat20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Hurdle
Race type
Hurdle
Runs
6
Wins
1
2nd
3
3rd
0
Win %
16.7%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£3,400
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Chase
Race type
Chase
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£228
Prize IRE (€)
€0
NH Flat
Race type
NH Flat
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Good to Firm20200.0%100.0%£1,246€0
Good20000.0%0.0%£228€0
Good to Soft10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Soft411025.0%50.0%£2,154€0
Heavy20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Good to Firm
Going
Good to Firm
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
2
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,246
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good
Going
Good
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£228
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good to Soft
Going
Good to Soft
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Soft
Going
Soft
Runs
4
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
25.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,154
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Heavy
Going
Heavy
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
2m to 2m1f30100.0%33.3%£594€0
2m6f to 3m1f712014.3%42.9%£3,035€0
3m2f and over10000.0%0.0%£0€0
2m to 2m1f
Distance
2m to 2m1f
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£594
Prize IRE (€)
€0
2m6f to 3m1f
Distance
2m6f to 3m1f
Runs
7
Wins
1
2nd
2
3rd
0
Win %
14.3%
Place %
42.9%
Prize GB (£)
£3,035
Prize IRE (€)
€0
3m2f and over
Distance
3m2f and over
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Worcester30200.0%66.7%£1,246€0
Wolverhampton210050.0%50.0%£1,484€0
Perth20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Ayr10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Bangor-on-Dee10000.0%0.0%£228€0
Doncaster10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Haydock10100.0%100.0%£670€0
Worcester
Course
Worcester
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
2
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£1,246
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Wolverhampton
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,484
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Perth
Course
Perth
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Ayr
Course
Ayr
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Bangor-on-Dee
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£228
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Doncaster
Course
Doncaster
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Haydock
Course
Haydock
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£670
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Non-handicap (unclassified)1013010.0%40.0%£3,628€0
Handicap (unclassified)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Class
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Runs
10
Wins
1
2nd
3
3rd
0
Win %
10.0%
Place %
40.0%
Prize GB (£)
£3,628
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Handicap (unclassified)
Class
Handicap (unclassified)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
6 to 8 runners20000.0%0.0%£0€0
9 to 12 runners40100.0%25.0%£898€0
13 to 16 runners1100100.0%100.0%£1,484€0
17+ runners40200.0%50.0%£1,246€0
6 to 8 runners
Runners
6 to 8 runners
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
9 to 12 runners
Runners
9 to 12 runners
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£898
Prize IRE (€)
€0
13 to 16 runners
Runners
13 to 16 runners
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,484
Prize IRE (€)
€0
17+ runners
Runners
17+ runners
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
2
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,246
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
January311033.3%66.7%£2,154€0
February10000.0%0.0%£0€0
April40200.0%50.0%£1,246€0
May10000.0%0.0%£0€0
November20000.0%0.0%£228€0
January
Month
January
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
33.3%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£2,154
Prize IRE (€)
€0
February
Month
February
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
April
Month
April
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
2
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,246
Prize IRE (€)
€0
May
Month
May
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
November
Month
November
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£228
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Norman Williamson40200.0%50.0%£1,264€0
Peter Niven30000.0%0.0%£228€0
M Hourigan1100100.0%100.0%£1,484€0
D Tegg10100.0%100.0%£653€0
Mr C Sample10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Mr P McMahon10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Norman Williamson
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
2
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,264
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Peter Niven
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£228
Prize IRE (€)
€0
M Hourigan
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,484
Prize IRE (€)
€0
D Tegg
Jockey
D Tegg
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£653
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Mr C Sample
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Mr P McMahon
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
J A C Edwards111309.1%36.4%£3,628€0
J A C Edwards
Runs
11
Wins
1
2nd
3
3rd
0
Win %
9.1%
Place %
36.4%
Prize GB (£)
£3,628
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear1013010.0%40.0%£3,628€0
b10000.0%0.0%£0€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
10
Wins
1
2nd
3
3rd
0
Win %
10.0%
Place %
40.0%
Prize GB (£)
£3,628
Prize IRE (€)
€0
b
Headgear
b
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10000.0%0.0%£0€0
8 to 14 days10000.0%0.0%£0€0
15 to 30 days411025.0%50.0%£2,365€0
61 to 120 days20000.0%0.0%£0€0
121 to 365 days20100.0%50.0%£594€0
Over a year10100.0%100.0%£670€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
8 to 14 days
Days since last run
8 to 14 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
15 to 30 days
Days since last run
15 to 30 days
Runs
4
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
25.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,365
Prize IRE (€)
€0
61 to 120 days
Days since last run
61 to 120 days
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
121 to 365 days
Days since last run
121 to 365 days
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£594
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Over a year
Days since last run
Over a year
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£670
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

By first-time headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
First time in any headgear10000.0%0.0%£0€0
First time blinkers10000.0%0.0%£0€0
No headgear1013010.0%40.0%£3,628€0
First time in any headgear
Headgear
First time in any headgear
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
First time blinkers
Headgear
First time blinkers
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
10
Wins
1
2nd
3
3rd
0
Win %
10.0%
Place %
40.0%
Prize GB (£)
£3,628
Prize IRE (€)
€0

A run can count in more than one "first time" row (e.g. first-time blinkers and first headgear of any kind). First time is judged against earlier British and Irish runs only.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchProverb (GB)

Parent · 1

  1. SireProverb (GB)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchPrimrose Walk (GB)

Parent · 1

  1. DamPrimrose Walk (GB)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireCharlottown (GB)
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Proverb (GB)
Primrose Walk (GB)
Not traced
Not traced
Charlottown (GB)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseAsk For More (GB)
Sexgelding
Foaled1985
SireProverb (GB)
DamPrimrose Walk (GB)
DamsireCharlottown (GB)
Dam's produce3 winners from 6 runners
Notable siblingGolden Gazelle (GB)

Female line

  1. Primrose Walk (GB) · 3 winners from 6 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Proverb (GB)Primrose Walk (GB)Charlottown (GB)geldingNH 2m6fFlat 10.9f · NH 2m4f
Proverb (GB)
Sex
gelding
Sire's avg winning distance
NH 2m6f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 10.9f · NH 2m4f

Progeny of Proverb (GB) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs1,09611928410.9%25.9%111
At 2m6f to 3m1f4454811510.8%25.8%71
On Soft going14713388.8%25.9%41
At 2m6f to 3m1f on Soft going554127.3%21.8%31
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
1,096
Wins
119
Placed
284
Win %
10.9%
Place %
25.9%
This horse runs
11
This horse wins
1
At 2m6f to 3m1f
Condition
At 2m6f to 3m1f
Runs
445
Wins
48
Placed
115
Win %
10.8%
Place %
25.8%
This horse runs
7
This horse wins
1
On Soft going
Condition
On Soft going
Runs
147
Wins
13
Placed
38
Win %
8.8%
Place %
25.9%
This horse runs
4
This horse wins
1
At 2m6f to 3m1f on Soft going
Condition
At 2m6f to 3m1f on Soft going
Runs
55
Wins
4
Placed
12
Win %
7.3%
Place %
21.8%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
1

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Proverb (GB) × Charlottown mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt11100.0%011139.1%£3,628€0
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
1
Winners
1
Winners %
100.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
11
Wins
1
2nd/3rd
3
Win %
9.1%
Prize GB (£)
£3,628
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Ask For More (GB)1110£3,628€0
Ask For More (GB)
Runs
11
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£3,628
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Ratings

Official ratings

CodeCurrent ORHighest ORLowest ORRated runs
National Hunt8787871
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
87
Highest OR
87
Lowest OR
87
Rated runs
1

Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.

Official rating by run

DateCourseCodeORPos
28 Jan 94DoncasterNH87PU/11

Current mark v winning marks

CodeCurrent OROR last runChangeHighest ORv highest
National Hunt87870870
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
87
OR last run
87
Change
0
Highest OR
87
v highest
0

Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.

Family

Dam summary

Primrose Walk (GB)

G1 winners
0
Produce
3 winners from 6 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Proverb (GB) out of Primrose Walk (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Whistling Deer (GB)

By Lord Ha Ha (GB)

By Black Minstrel (GB)

By Good Thyne (USA)

By Dry Dock (GB)

Female line

  1. 1Primrose Walk (GB)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

In brief

When was Ask For More foaled?

Ask For More (GB) was foaled in 1985.

Who are the sire and dam of Ask For More?

Ask For More (GB) is by Proverb (GB) out of Primrose Walk (GB), a daughter of Charlottown (GB).

Who trained Ask For More?

Ask For More (GB) was trained by J A C Edwards and owned by David M Stern at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Ask For More's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Ask For More (GB) won 1 of 11 races (9%).

What is Ask For More's biggest win?

Ask For More (GB)'s only win in Britain or Ireland came in the Staying Conditional Jockeys' Novices' Hurdle at Wolverhampton on 27 January 1993.

Has Ask For More ever been beaten?

Ask For More (GB) was beaten 10 times in 11 runs in Britain and Ireland, the first time on 19 April 1990 at Ayr (15th of 20).

What was Ask For More's official rating?

Ask For More (GB) was last officially rated 87 over jumps (also the career high).

Is Ask For More still racing?

Ask For More (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 28 January 1994 at Doncaster in the Sandall Beat Novices' Handicap Chase (result: pulled up, 11 ran), and has not run there since.

What is Ask For More's record at Worcester?

Ask For More (GB) ran most often at Worcester, with no wins from 3 runs there.

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