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After Eight (GER) silks

Horse profile

After Eight (GER)

Sir Felix (FR) × Amrei (GB) (Ardross (GB))
Sex
gelding
Foaled
2000

See also: After Eight (IRE) · Andrew Balding · 7 runs · 1 win, After Eight (GB) · Malcolm Saunders · 26 runs · 1 win

Highest OR
125
Record (GB & IRE)
2 wins from 14 runs (14%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£32,488 GB
Last official rating
125 (Jumps)
Last run (GB & IRE)
23 Dec 2006, Bangor-on-Dee (5/8)
Last win (GB & IRE)
3 Nov 2005, Towcester
Recent form
21423655791635

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtORWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
23 Dec 06Bangor-on-Dee5/811/4F8¾P C O'NeillVenetia Williamsbetdirectuk.com Handicap HurdleClass 2Hurdle2m7fSoft11-3125Just Beth (GB)£10,084372/7
16 Nov 06Market Rasen3/813/25½P C O'NeillVenetia WilliamsWeatherbys Insurance Handicap HurdleClass 3Hurdle2m6fSoft11-9124Legally Fast (USA)£9,759141/7
2 Nov 06Towcester6/85/2distP C O'NeillVenetia WilliamsBetfair Handicap HurdleClass 3Hurdle2m5fGood to Soft11-8124Bring Me Sunshine (IRE)£5,7043640/7
3 Nov 05Towcester1/89/4Fwon 8P C O'NeillVenetia WilliamsLambert Smith Hampton Handicap Hurdle Class DClass 3Hurdle2m5fSoft11-7120Glacial Evening (IRE)£5,5691940/7
23 Apr 05Sandown9/179/117½Sam ThomasVenetia WilliamsBetfred "The Bonus King" Handicap Hurdle Class BClass 2Hurdle2m4fGood10-10122Yes Sir (IRE)£15,857144/16
9 Apr 05Aintree7/2012/112¾Jim CullotyVenetia WilliamsJohn Smith's No Nonsense Handicap HurdleListedHurdle2m4fGood10-5122Genghis (IRE)£23,200244/19
16 Mar 05Cheltenham5/2933/116¼Sam ThomasVenetia WilliamsCoral CupGrade 3Class 1Hurdle2m5fGood10-2123Idole First (IRE)£43,50043/28
12 Mar 05Sandown5/1925/110Jim CullotyVenetia WilliamsSunderlands Imperial Cup Handicap HurdleListedHurdle2mGood to Soft10-6123Medison (FR)£34,800211/17
19 Feb 05Uttoxeter6/128/113¾Alan O'KeeffeVenetia Williamsbetfred.com Handicap Hurdle Class BClass 2Hurdle2m4fSoft11-12125Olney Lad (GB)£18,340350/11
15 Jan 05Wetherby3/115/120Alan O'KeeffeVenetia WilliamsCream of Mushroom HBLB Handicap Hurdle Class BClass 2Hurdle2m3½fSoft10-7125Olney Lad (GB)£12,1773851/10
27 Dec 03Kempton2/175/111Mark NicollsMilton HarrisNetwork Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class CClass 3Hurdle2mGood10-11-Tarque (IRE)£6,467140/16
13 Dec 03Cheltenham4/117/128Timmy MurphyMilton HarrisTripleprint Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class BClass 2Hurdle2m½fGood to Soft11-7-Trouble At Bay (IRE)£11,087211/9
22 Nov 03Huntingdon1/76/1won 1½Jim CullotyMilton Harristote.co.uk Introductory Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class BClass 2Hurdle2mGood to Soft11-0-Howle Hill (IRE)£13,488251/6
28 Oct 03Cheltenham2/10100/30nkA P McCoyC Von Der ReckeScarvagh House Stud PTA Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class CClass 3Hurdle2m½fGood to Firm10-12-Web Perceptions (USA)£6,409-1/9
  • 5/823 Dec 06 · Bangor-on-Dee11/4F

    betdirectuk.com Handicap Hurdle

    Class 22m7fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    23 Dec 06
    Pos
    5/8
    SP
    11/4F
    Btn
    8¾
    Race
    betdirectuk.com Handicap Hurdle
    Class
    Class 2
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m7f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    11-3
    OR
    125
    Winner / 2nd
    Just Beth (GB)
    Winner prize
    £10,084
    Days
    37
    Future form
    2/7
  • 3/816 Nov 06 · Market Rasen13/2

    Weatherbys Insurance Handicap Hurdle

    Class 32m6fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    16 Nov 06
    Pos
    3/8
    SP
    13/2
    Btn
    5½
    Race
    Weatherbys Insurance Handicap Hurdle
    Class
    Class 3
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m6f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    11-9
    OR
    124
    Winner / 2nd
    Legally Fast (USA)
    Winner prize
    £9,759
    Days
    14
    Future form
    1/7
  • 6/82 Nov 06 · Towcester5/2

    Betfair Handicap Hurdle

    Class 32m5fGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    2 Nov 06
    Course
    Towcester
    Pos
    6/8
    SP
    5/2
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Betfair Handicap Hurdle
    Class
    Class 3
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m5f
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    11-8
    OR
    124
    Winner prize
    £5,704
    Days
    364
    Future form
    0/7
  • 1/83 Nov 05 · Towcester9/4F

    Lambert Smith Hampton Handicap Hurdle Class D

    Class 32m5fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    3 Nov 05
    Course
    Towcester
    Pos
    1/8
    SP
    9/4F
    Btn
    won 8
    Race
    Lambert Smith Hampton Handicap Hurdle Class D
    Class
    Class 3
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m5f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    11-7
    OR
    120
    Winner prize
    £5,569
    Days
    194
    Future form
    0/7
  • 9/1723 Apr 05 · Sandown9/1

    Betfred "The Bonus King" Handicap Hurdle Class B

    Class 22m4fGood

    All fields
    Date
    23 Apr 05
    Course
    Sandown
    Pos
    9/17
    SP
    9/1
    Btn
    17½
    Race
    Betfred "The Bonus King" Handicap Hurdle Class B
    Class
    Class 2
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    10-10
    OR
    122
    Winner / 2nd
    Yes Sir (IRE)
    Winner prize
    £15,857
    Days
    14
    Future form
    4/16
  • 7/209 Apr 05 · Aintree12/1

    John Smith's No Nonsense Handicap Hurdle

    Listed2m4fGood

    All fields
    Date
    9 Apr 05
    Course
    Aintree
    Pos
    7/20
    SP
    12/1
    Btn
    12¾
    Race
    John Smith's No Nonsense Handicap Hurdle
    Class
    Listed
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    10-5
    OR
    122
    Winner / 2nd
    Genghis (IRE)
    Winner prize
    £23,200
    Days
    24
    Future form
    4/19
  • 5/2916 Mar 05 · Cheltenham33/1

    Coral CupGrade 3

    Class 12m5fGood

    All fields
    Date
    16 Mar 05
    Pos
    5/29
    SP
    33/1
    Btn
    16¼
    Race
    Coral CupGrade 3
    Class
    Class 1
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m5f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    10-2
    OR
    123
    Winner / 2nd
    Idole First (IRE)
    Winner prize
    £43,500
    Days
    4
    Future form
    3/28
  • 5/1912 Mar 05 · Sandown25/1

    Sunderlands Imperial Cup Handicap Hurdle

    Listed2mGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    12 Mar 05
    Course
    Sandown
    Pos
    5/19
    SP
    25/1
    Btn
    10
    Race
    Sunderlands Imperial Cup Handicap Hurdle
    Class
    Listed
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    10-6
    OR
    123
    Winner / 2nd
    Medison (FR)
    Winner prize
    £34,800
    Days
    21
    Future form
    1/17
  • 6/1219 Feb 05 · Uttoxeter8/1

    betfred.com Handicap Hurdle Class B

    Class 22m4fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    19 Feb 05
    Course
    Uttoxeter
    Pos
    6/12
    SP
    8/1
    Btn
    13¾
    Race
    betfred.com Handicap Hurdle Class B
    Class
    Class 2
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    11-12
    OR
    125
    Winner / 2nd
    Olney Lad (GB)
    Winner prize
    £18,340
    Days
    35
    Future form
    0/11
  • 3/1115 Jan 05 · Wetherby5/1

    Cream of Mushroom HBLB Handicap Hurdle Class B

    Class 22m3½fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    15 Jan 05
    Course
    Wetherby
    Pos
    3/11
    SP
    5/1
    Btn
    20
    Race
    Cream of Mushroom HBLB Handicap Hurdle Class B
    Class
    Class 2
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m3½f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    10-7
    OR
    125
    Winner / 2nd
    Olney Lad (GB)
    Winner prize
    £12,177
    Days
    385
    Future form
    1/10
  • 2/1727 Dec 03 · Kempton5/1

    Network Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class C

    Class 32mGood

    All fields
    Date
    27 Dec 03
    Course
    Kempton
    Pos
    2/17
    SP
    5/1
    Btn
    11
    Race
    Network Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class C
    Class
    Class 3
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    10-11
    OR
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Tarque (IRE)
    Winner prize
    £6,467
    Days
    14
    Future form
    0/16
  • 4/1113 Dec 03 · Cheltenham7/1

    Tripleprint Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class B

    Class 22m½fGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    13 Dec 03
    Pos
    4/11
    SP
    7/1
    Btn
    28
    Race
    Tripleprint Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class B
    Class
    Class 2
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m½f
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    11-7
    OR
    -
    Winner prize
    £11,087
    Days
    21
    Future form
    1/9
  • 1/722 Nov 03 · Huntingdon6/1

    tote.co.uk Introductory Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class B

    Class 22mGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    22 Nov 03
    Pos
    1/7
    SP
    6/1
    Btn
    won 1½
    Race
    tote.co.uk Introductory Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class B
    Class
    Class 2
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    11-0
    OR
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Howle Hill (IRE)
    Winner prize
    £13,488
    Days
    25
    Future form
    1/6
  • 2/1028 Oct 03 · Cheltenham100/30

    Scarvagh House Stud PTA Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class C

    Class 32m½fGood to Firm

    All fields
    Date
    28 Oct 03
    Pos
    2/10
    SP
    100/30
    Btn
    nk
    Jockey
    A P McCoy
    Race
    Scarvagh House Stud PTA Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class C
    Class
    Class 3
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m½f
    Going
    Good to Firm
    Wgt
    10-12
    OR
    -
    Winner prize
    £6,409
    Days
    -
    Future form
    1/9

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
23 Dec 06Bangor-on-Deebetdirectuk.com Handicap Hurdle5/8Just Beth (GB)11 Jan 07CheltenhamClub 16-24 Handicap Hurdle
23 Dec 06Bangor-on-Deebetdirectuk.com Handicap Hurdle5/8Rowley Hill (GB)413 Jan 07WarwickPertemps Handicap Hurdle
16 Nov 06Market RasenWeatherbys Insurance Handicap Hurdle3/8Karathaena (IRE)69 Dec 06Market RasenJack Dixon Memorial Handicap Hurdle
23 Apr 05SandownBetfred "The Bonus King" Handicap Hurdle Class B9/17Commercial Flyer (IRE)516 Feb 06Tauntonsouthwestracing.com Beginners' Chase
23 Apr 05SandownBetfred "The Bonus King" Handicap Hurdle Class B9/17Tighe Caster (GB)74 Sep 05Worcesterbetfredcasino.com Beginners' Chase Class E
23 Apr 05SandownBetfred "The Bonus King" Handicap Hurdle Class B9/17Chivite (IRE)1022 May 05HerefordSir John Cotterell Novices' Chase Class D
23 Apr 05SandownBetfred "The Bonus King" Handicap Hurdle Class B9/17Mr Cool (GB)147 May 05HaydockStanleybet Long Distance Handicap Hurdle Class B
9 Apr 05AintreeJohn Smith's No Nonsense Handicap Hurdle (Listed Race)7/20Genghis (IRE)116 Apr 05AyrSamsung Electronics Scottish Champion Hurdle (Limited Handicap)Grade 2
9 Apr 05AintreeJohn Smith's No Nonsense Handicap Hurdle (Listed Race)7/20Billyvoddan (IRE)419 Nov 05Huntingdontotesport.com Novices' Chase Class C
9 Apr 05AintreeJohn Smith's No Nonsense Handicap Hurdle (Listed Race)7/20Fairwood Present (IRE)107 May 05Kilbeggan (IRE)Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Beginners Chase
9 Apr 05AintreeJohn Smith's No Nonsense Handicap Hurdle (Listed Race)7/20Jorobaden (FR)1816 Oct 05Market RasenWest Lindsey District Council Easter Cup Handicap Hurdle Class D
16 Mar 05CheltenhamCoral CupGrade 35/29Covent Garden (GB)420 Nov 05AintreeWilliam Hill/Stanleybet Children In Need Handicap Hurdle Class B
16 Mar 05CheltenhamCoral CupGrade 35/29Lough Derg (FR)1513 Apr 05CheltenhamMITIE Group Handicap Hurdle Class B
16 Mar 05CheltenhamCoral CupGrade 35/29Royal Hector (GER)2113 Nov 05FontwellBetfredcasino Beginners' Chase Class E
12 Mar 05SandownSunderlands Imperial Cup Handicap Hurdle (Listed Race)5/19Far Pavilions (GB)116 Apr 05CatterickHarry Chapman Birthday Handicap
15 Jan 05WetherbyCream of Mushroom HBLB Handicap Hurdle Class B3/11Olney Lad (GB)119 Feb 05Uttoxeterbetfred.com Handicap Hurdle Class B
13 Dec 03CheltenhamTripleprint Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class B4/11Trouble At Bay (IRE)11 Jan 04CheltenhamSteel Plate Trial Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class B
22 Nov 03Huntingdontote.co.uk Introductory Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class B1/7Howle Hill (IRE)28 Jan 04WincantonCorscombe Novices' Hurdle (Div II)
28 Oct 03CheltenhamScarvagh House Stud PTA Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class C2/10Sunray (GB)-27 Dec 03ChepstoweLINIA Finale Juvenile Hurdle Grade 1
  • 5/823 Dec 06 · Bangor-on-Dee

    betdirectuk.com Handicap Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    23 Dec 06
    Race
    betdirectuk.com Handicap Hurdle
    This horse
    5/8
    Winner next time
    Just Beth (GB)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    1 Jan 07
    Race won
    Club 16-24 Handicap Hurdle
  • 5/823 Dec 06 · Bangor-on-Dee

    betdirectuk.com Handicap Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    23 Dec 06
    Race
    betdirectuk.com Handicap Hurdle
    This horse
    5/8
    Winner next time
    Rowley Hill (GB)
    Their pos
    4
    Won on
    13 Jan 07
    Race won
    Pertemps Handicap Hurdle
  • 3/816 Nov 06 · Market Rasen

    Weatherbys Insurance Handicap Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    16 Nov 06
    Race
    Weatherbys Insurance Handicap Hurdle
    This horse
    3/8
    Winner next time
    Karathaena (IRE)
    Their pos
    6
    Won on
    9 Dec 06
    Race won
    Jack Dixon Memorial Handicap Hurdle
  • 9/1723 Apr 05 · Sandown

    Betfred "The Bonus King" Handicap Hurdle Class B

    All fields
    Date
    23 Apr 05
    Course
    Sandown
    Race
    Betfred "The Bonus King" Handicap Hurdle Class B
    This horse
    9/17
    Winner next time
    Commercial Flyer (IRE)
    Their pos
    5
    Won on
    16 Feb 06
    Race won
    southwestracing.com Beginners' Chase
  • 9/1723 Apr 05 · Sandown

    Betfred "The Bonus King" Handicap Hurdle Class B

    All fields
    Date
    23 Apr 05
    Course
    Sandown
    Race
    Betfred "The Bonus King" Handicap Hurdle Class B
    This horse
    9/17
    Winner next time
    Tighe Caster (GB)
    Their pos
    7
    Won on
    4 Sep 05
    Race won
    betfredcasino.com Beginners' Chase Class E
  • 9/1723 Apr 05 · Sandown

    Betfred "The Bonus King" Handicap Hurdle Class B

    All fields
    Date
    23 Apr 05
    Course
    Sandown
    Race
    Betfred "The Bonus King" Handicap Hurdle Class B
    This horse
    9/17
    Winner next time
    Chivite (IRE)
    Their pos
    10
    Won on
    22 May 05
    Race won
    Sir John Cotterell Novices' Chase Class D
  • 9/1723 Apr 05 · Sandown

    Betfred "The Bonus King" Handicap Hurdle Class B

    All fields
    Date
    23 Apr 05
    Course
    Sandown
    Race
    Betfred "The Bonus King" Handicap Hurdle Class B
    This horse
    9/17
    Winner next time
    Mr Cool (GB)
    Their pos
    14
    Won on
    7 May 05
    Race won
    Stanleybet Long Distance Handicap Hurdle Class B
  • 7/209 Apr 05 · Aintree

    John Smith's No Nonsense Handicap Hurdle (Listed Race)

    All fields
    Date
    9 Apr 05
    Course
    Aintree
    Race
    John Smith's No Nonsense Handicap Hurdle (Listed Race)
    This horse
    7/20
    Winner next time
    Genghis (IRE)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    16 Apr 05
    At
    Ayr
    Race won
    Samsung Electronics Scottish Champion Hurdle (Limited Handicap)Grade 2
  • 7/209 Apr 05 · Aintree

    John Smith's No Nonsense Handicap Hurdle (Listed Race)

    All fields
    Date
    9 Apr 05
    Course
    Aintree
    Race
    John Smith's No Nonsense Handicap Hurdle (Listed Race)
    This horse
    7/20
    Winner next time
    Billyvoddan (IRE)
    Their pos
    4
    Won on
    19 Nov 05
    Race won
    totesport.com Novices' Chase Class C
  • 7/209 Apr 05 · Aintree

    John Smith's No Nonsense Handicap Hurdle (Listed Race)

    All fields
    Date
    9 Apr 05
    Course
    Aintree
    Race
    John Smith's No Nonsense Handicap Hurdle (Listed Race)
    This horse
    7/20
    Winner next time
    Fairwood Present (IRE)
    Their pos
    10
    Won on
    7 May 05
    Race won
    Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Beginners Chase
  • 7/209 Apr 05 · Aintree

    John Smith's No Nonsense Handicap Hurdle (Listed Race)

    All fields
    Date
    9 Apr 05
    Course
    Aintree
    Race
    John Smith's No Nonsense Handicap Hurdle (Listed Race)
    This horse
    7/20
    Winner next time
    Jorobaden (FR)
    Their pos
    18
    Won on
    16 Oct 05
    Race won
    West Lindsey District Council Easter Cup Handicap Hurdle Class D
  • 5/2916 Mar 05 · Cheltenham

    Coral CupGrade 3

    All fields
    Date
    16 Mar 05
    Race
    Coral CupGrade 3
    This horse
    5/29
    Winner next time
    Covent Garden (GB)
    Their pos
    4
    Won on
    20 Nov 05
    Race won
    William Hill/Stanleybet Children In Need Handicap Hurdle Class B
  • 5/2916 Mar 05 · Cheltenham

    Coral CupGrade 3

    All fields
    Date
    16 Mar 05
    Race
    Coral CupGrade 3
    This horse
    5/29
    Winner next time
    Lough Derg (FR)
    Their pos
    15
    Won on
    13 Apr 05
    Race won
    MITIE Group Handicap Hurdle Class B
  • 5/2916 Mar 05 · Cheltenham

    Coral CupGrade 3

    All fields
    Date
    16 Mar 05
    Race
    Coral CupGrade 3
    This horse
    5/29
    Winner next time
    Royal Hector (GER)
    Their pos
    21
    Won on
    13 Nov 05
    Race won
    Betfredcasino Beginners' Chase Class E
  • 5/1912 Mar 05 · Sandown

    Sunderlands Imperial Cup Handicap Hurdle (Listed Race)

    All fields
    Date
    12 Mar 05
    Course
    Sandown
    Race
    Sunderlands Imperial Cup Handicap Hurdle (Listed Race)
    This horse
    5/19
    Winner next time
    Far Pavilions (GB)
    Their pos
    11
    Won on
    6 Apr 05
    Race won
    Harry Chapman Birthday Handicap
  • 3/1115 Jan 05 · Wetherby

    Cream of Mushroom HBLB Handicap Hurdle Class B

    All fields
    Date
    15 Jan 05
    Course
    Wetherby
    Race
    Cream of Mushroom HBLB Handicap Hurdle Class B
    This horse
    3/11
    Winner next time
    Olney Lad (GB)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    19 Feb 05
    Race won
    betfred.com Handicap Hurdle Class B
  • 4/1113 Dec 03 · Cheltenham

    Tripleprint Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class B

    All fields
    Date
    13 Dec 03
    Race
    Tripleprint Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class B
    This horse
    4/11
    Winner next time
    Trouble At Bay (IRE)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    1 Jan 04
    Race won
    Steel Plate Trial Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class B
  • 1/722 Nov 03 · Huntingdon

    tote.co.uk Introductory Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class B

    All fields
    Date
    22 Nov 03
    Race
    tote.co.uk Introductory Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class B
    This horse
    1/7
    Winner next time
    Howle Hill (IRE)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    8 Jan 04
    Race won
    Corscombe Novices' Hurdle (Div II)
  • 2/1028 Oct 03 · Cheltenham

    Scarvagh House Stud PTA Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class C

    All fields
    Date
    28 Oct 03
    Race
    Scarvagh House Stud PTA Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class C
    This horse
    2/10
    Winner next time
    Sunray (GB)
    Their pos
    -
    Won on
    27 Dec 03
    Race won
    eLINIA Finale Juvenile Hurdle Grade 1

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerMoved fromFirst runLast runFirst run for yardOR first runOR last runBest ORRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Venetia WilliamsMilton Harris15 Jan 0523 Dec 063/111251251251010210.0%30.0%£13,160€0
Milton HarrisC Von Der Recke22 Nov 0327 Dec 031/7---311033.3%66.7%£16,896€0
C Von Der Recke-28 Oct 0328 Oct 032/10---10100.0%100.0%£2,431€0
Venetia Williams
Moved from
Milton Harris
First run
15 Jan 05
Last run
23 Dec 06
First run for yard
3/11
OR first run
125
OR last run
125
Best OR
125
Runs
10
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
2
Win %
10.0%
Place %
30.0%
Prize GB (£)
£13,160
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Milton Harris
Moved from
C Von Der Recke
First run
22 Nov 03
Last run
27 Dec 03
First run for yard
1/7
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
33.3%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£16,896
Prize IRE (€)
€0
C Von Der Recke
First run
28 Oct 03
Last run
28 Oct 03
First run for yard
2/10
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,431
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Spells with each trainer in race order, latest first (a horse that returns to a trainer shows a new spell). From British and Irish runs since 1990.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)Best ORFirst runLast run
National Hunt1422214.3%42.9%£32,488€012528 Oct 0323 Dec 06
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
14
Wins
2
2nd
2
3rd
2
Win %
14.3%
Place %
42.9%
Prize GB (£)
£32,488
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Best OR
125
First run
28 Oct 03
Last run
23 Dec 06

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Hurdle1422214.3%42.9%£32,488€0
Hurdle
Race type
Hurdle
Runs
14
Wins
2
2nd
2
3rd
2
Win %
14.3%
Place %
42.9%
Prize GB (£)
£32,488
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Good to Firm10100.0%100.0%£2,431€0
Good40100.0%25.0%£4,328€0
Good to Soft410025.0%25.0%£15,943€0
Soft510220.0%60.0%£9,785€0
Good to Firm
Going
Good to Firm
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,431
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good
Going
Good
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,328
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good to Soft
Going
Good to Soft
Runs
4
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
25.0%
Place %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£15,943
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Soft
Going
Soft
Runs
5
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
2
Win %
20.0%
Place %
60.0%
Prize GB (£)
£9,785
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
2m to 2m1f512020.0%60.0%£20,827€0
2m2f to 2m5f710114.3%28.6%£10,228€0
2m6f to 3m1f20010.0%50.0%£1,433€0
2m to 2m1f
Distance
2m to 2m1f
Runs
5
Wins
1
2nd
2
3rd
0
Win %
20.0%
Place %
60.0%
Prize GB (£)
£20,827
Prize IRE (€)
€0
2m2f to 2m5f
Distance
2m2f to 2m5f
Runs
7
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
14.3%
Place %
28.6%
Prize GB (£)
£10,228
Prize IRE (€)
€0
2m6f to 3m1f
Distance
2m6f to 3m1f
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,433
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Cheltenham30100.0%33.3%£5,262€0
Towcester210050.0%50.0%£5,569€0
Sandown20000.0%0.0%£1,500€0
Huntingdon1100100.0%100.0%£13,488€0
Aintree10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Bangor-on-Dee10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Kempton10100.0%100.0%£2,453€0
Market Rasen10010.0%100.0%£1,433€0
Uttoxeter10000.0%0.0%£474€0
Wetherby10010.0%100.0%£2,309€0
Cheltenham
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£5,262
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Towcester
Course
Towcester
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£5,569
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Sandown
Course
Sandown
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,500
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Huntingdon
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£13,488
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Aintree
Course
Aintree
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Bangor-on-Dee
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Kempton
Course
Kempton
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,453
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Market Rasen
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,433
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Uttoxeter
Course
Uttoxeter
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£474
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Wetherby
Course
Wetherby
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,309
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Listed20000.0%0.0%£1,500€0
Class 110000.0%0.0%£1,875€0
Class 2610116.7%33.3%£17,227€0
Class 3512120.0%80.0%£11,886€0
Listed
Class
Listed
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,500
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Class 1
Class
Class 1
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,875
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Class 2
Class
Class 2
Runs
6
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
16.7%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£17,227
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Class 3
Class
Class 3
Runs
5
Wins
1
2nd
2
3rd
1
Win %
20.0%
Place %
80.0%
Prize GB (£)
£11,886
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
6 to 8 runners520140.0%60.0%£20,489€0
9 to 12 runners40110.0%50.0%£6,170€0
17+ runners50100.0%20.0%£5,828€0
6 to 8 runners
Runners
6 to 8 runners
Runs
5
Wins
2
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
40.0%
Place %
60.0%
Prize GB (£)
£20,489
Prize IRE (€)
€0
9 to 12 runners
Runners
9 to 12 runners
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£6,170
Prize IRE (€)
€0
17+ runners
Runners
17+ runners
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
20.0%
Prize GB (£)
£5,828
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
January10010.0%100.0%£2,309€0
February10000.0%0.0%£474€0
March20000.0%0.0%£3,375€0
April20000.0%0.0%£0€0
October10100.0%100.0%£2,431€0
November420150.0%75.0%£20,489€0
December30100.0%33.3%£3,409€0
January
Month
January
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,309
Prize IRE (€)
€0
February
Month
February
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£474
Prize IRE (€)
€0
March
Month
March
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£3,375
Prize IRE (€)
€0
April
Month
April
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
October
Month
October
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,431
Prize IRE (€)
€0
November
Month
November
Runs
4
Wins
2
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
50.0%
Place %
75.0%
Prize GB (£)
£20,489
Prize IRE (€)
€0
December
Month
December
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£3,409
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
P C O'Neill410125.0%50.0%£7,002€0
Jim Culloty310033.3%33.3%£14,988€0
Alan O'Keeffe20010.0%50.0%£2,784€0
Sam Thomas20000.0%0.0%£1,875€0
A P McCoy10100.0%100.0%£2,431€0
Mark Nicolls10100.0%100.0%£2,453€0
Timmy Murphy10000.0%0.0%£956€0
P C O'Neill
Runs
4
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
25.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£7,002
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Jim Culloty
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
33.3%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£14,988
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Alan O'Keeffe
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,784
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Sam Thomas
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,875
Prize IRE (€)
€0
A P McCoy
Jockey
A P McCoy
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,431
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Mark Nicolls
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,453
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Timmy Murphy
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£956
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Venetia Williams1010210.0%30.0%£13,160€0
Milton Harris311033.3%66.7%£16,896€0
C Von Der Recke10100.0%100.0%£2,431€0
Venetia Williams
Runs
10
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
2
Win %
10.0%
Place %
30.0%
Prize GB (£)
£13,160
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Milton Harris
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
33.3%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£16,896
Prize IRE (€)
€0
C Von Der Recke
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,431
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear1422214.3%42.9%£32,488€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
14
Wins
2
2nd
2
3rd
2
Win %
14.3%
Place %
42.9%
Prize GB (£)
£32,488
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10100.0%100.0%£2,431€0
1 to 7 days10000.0%0.0%£1,875€0
8 to 14 days30110.0%66.7%£3,886€0
15 to 30 days410025.0%25.0%£15,943€0
31 to 60 days20000.0%0.0%£474€0
121 to 365 days210050.0%50.0%£5,569€0
Over a year10010.0%100.0%£2,309€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,431
Prize IRE (€)
€0
1 to 7 days
Days since last run
1 to 7 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,875
Prize IRE (€)
€0
8 to 14 days
Days since last run
8 to 14 days
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£3,886
Prize IRE (€)
€0
15 to 30 days
Days since last run
15 to 30 days
Runs
4
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
25.0%
Place %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£15,943
Prize IRE (€)
€0
31 to 60 days
Days since last run
31 to 60 days
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£474
Prize IRE (€)
€0
121 to 365 days
Days since last run
121 to 365 days
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£5,569
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Over a year
Days since last run
Over a year
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,309
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchSir Felix (FR)

Parent · 1

  1. SireSir Felix (FR)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchAmrei (GB)

Parent · 1

  1. DamAmrei (GB)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireArdross (GB)
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Sir Felix (FR)
Amrei (GB)
Not traced
Not traced
Ardross (GB)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseAfter Eight (GER)
Sexgelding
Foaled2000
SireSir Felix (FR)
DamAmrei (GB)
DamsireArdross (GB)
Dam's produce1 winners from 2 runners
Notable siblingAspendos (GER)

Female line

  1. Amrei (GB) · 1 winners from 2 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Sir Felix (FR)Amrei (GB)Ardross (GB)geldingNH 2m2½fFlat 11.1f · NH 2m4f
Sir Felix (FR)
Sex
gelding
Sire's avg winning distance
NH 2m2½f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 11.1f · NH 2m4f

Progeny of Sir Felix (FR) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs142614.3%42.9%142
At 2m to 2m1f51320.0%60.0%51
On Soft going51320.0%60.0%51
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
14
Wins
2
Placed
6
Win %
14.3%
Place %
42.9%
This horse runs
14
This horse wins
2
At 2m to 2m1f
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f
Runs
5
Wins
1
Placed
3
Win %
20.0%
Place %
60.0%
This horse runs
5
This horse wins
1
On Soft going
Condition
On Soft going
Runs
5
Wins
1
Placed
3
Win %
20.0%
Place %
60.0%
This horse runs
5
This horse wins
1

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Sir Felix (FR) × Ardross mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt11100.0%0142414.3%£32,488€0
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
1
Winners
1
Winners %
100.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
14
Wins
2
2nd/3rd
4
Win %
14.3%
Prize GB (£)
£32,488
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
After Eight (GER)1420£32,488€0
After Eight (GER)
Runs
14
Wins
2
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£32,488
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Ratings

Official ratings

CodeCurrent ORHighest ORLowest ORLast winning ORLast winRated runs
National Hunt1251251201203 Nov 0510
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
125
Highest OR
125
Lowest OR
120
Last winning OR
120
Last win
3 Nov 05
Rated runs
10

Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.

Official rating by run

DateCourseCodeORChangePos
23 Dec 06Bangor-on-DeeNH12515/8
16 Nov 06Market RasenNH12403/8
2 Nov 06TowcesterNH12446/8
3 Nov 05TowcesterNH120-21/8
23 Apr 05SandownNH12209/17
9 Apr 05AintreeNH122-17/20
16 Mar 05CheltenhamNH12305/29
12 Mar 05SandownNH123-25/19
19 Feb 05UttoxeterNH12506/12
15 Jan 05WetherbyNH125-3/11
  • 5/823 Dec 06 · Bangor-on-Dee
    All fields
    Date
    23 Dec 06
    Code
    NH
    OR
    125
    Change
    1
    Pos
    5/8
  • 3/816 Nov 06 · Market Rasen
    All fields
    Date
    16 Nov 06
    Code
    NH
    OR
    124
    Change
    0
    Pos
    3/8
  • 6/82 Nov 06 · Towcester
    All fields
    Date
    2 Nov 06
    Course
    Towcester
    Code
    NH
    OR
    124
    Change
    4
    Pos
    6/8
  • 1/83 Nov 05 · Towcester
    All fields
    Date
    3 Nov 05
    Course
    Towcester
    Code
    NH
    OR
    120
    Change
    -2
    Pos
    1/8
  • 9/1723 Apr 05 · Sandown
    All fields
    Date
    23 Apr 05
    Course
    Sandown
    Code
    NH
    OR
    122
    Change
    0
    Pos
    9/17
  • 7/209 Apr 05 · Aintree
    All fields
    Date
    9 Apr 05
    Course
    Aintree
    Code
    NH
    OR
    122
    Change
    -1
    Pos
    7/20
  • 5/2916 Mar 05 · Cheltenham
    All fields
    Date
    16 Mar 05
    Code
    NH
    OR
    123
    Change
    0
    Pos
    5/29
  • 5/1912 Mar 05 · Sandown
    All fields
    Date
    12 Mar 05
    Course
    Sandown
    Code
    NH
    OR
    123
    Change
    -2
    Pos
    5/19
  • 6/1219 Feb 05 · Uttoxeter
    All fields
    Date
    19 Feb 05
    Course
    Uttoxeter
    Code
    NH
    OR
    125
    Change
    0
    Pos
    6/12
  • 3/1115 Jan 05 · Wetherby
    All fields
    Date
    15 Jan 05
    Course
    Wetherby
    Code
    NH
    OR
    125
    Change
    -
    Pos
    3/11

Current mark v winning marks

CodeCurrent OROR last runChangeLast winning ORLast winv last winningHighest winning ORv highest winningHighest ORv highest
National Hunt12512501203 Nov 05512051250
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
125
OR last run
125
Change
0
Last winning OR
120
Last win
3 Nov 05
v last winning
5
Highest winning OR
120
v highest winning
5
Highest OR
125
v highest
0

Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.

Family

Dam summary

Amrei (GB)

G1 winners
0
Produce
1 winners from 2 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Sir Felix (FR) out of Amrei (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Kornado (GB)

Female line

  1. 1Amrei (GB)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

In brief

When was After Eight foaled?

After Eight (GER) was foaled in 2000.

Who are the sire and dam of After Eight?

After Eight (GER) is by Sir Felix (FR) out of Amrei (GB), a daughter of Ardross (GB).

Who trained After Eight?

After Eight (GER) was trained by Venetia Williams and owned by Lets Live Racing at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland, having also run for 2 other trainers.

What is After Eight's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, After Eight (GER) won 2 of 14 races (14%). Runs abroad (for example in France, Dubai or the USA) are not included.

What is After Eight's biggest win?

After Eight (GER)'s biggest win in Britain or Ireland came in the tote.co.uk Introductory Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class B at Huntingdon on 22 November 2003.

Has After Eight ever been beaten?

After Eight (GER) was beaten 12 times in 14 runs in Britain and Ireland, the first time on 28 October 2003 at Cheltenham (2nd of 10).

What was After Eight's official rating?

After Eight (GER) was last officially rated 125 over jumps (also the career high).

Is After Eight still racing?

After Eight (GER) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 23 December 2006 at Bangor-on-Dee in the betdirectuk.com Handicap Hurdle, finishing 5th of 8, and has not run there since.

What is After Eight's record at Cheltenham?

After Eight (GER) ran most often at Cheltenham, with no wins from 3 runs there.

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