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Horse profile
Why Not Thistle
- TrainerDaniel G Murphy
- OwnerMs Claudine Corrigan
- FamilyWhich Thistle
- Sex
- mare
- Foaled
- 2009
- Highest OR
- 111
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 1 win from 9 runs (11%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- €14,405 IRE
- Last official rating
- 111 (Jumps)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 5 Apr 2015, Cork (IRE) (3/17)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- 14 Mar 2015, Limerick (IRE)
Recent form
463554213
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5 Apr 15 | Cork (IRE) | 3/17 | 14/1 | 5 | Stephen Gray | Daniel G Murphy | Easter Handicap Hurdle | Grade C | Hurdle | 2m3f | Yielding | 9-11 | 111 | Misty Lady (IRE) | €19,500 | 22 | 0/15 |
| 14 Mar 15 | Limerick (IRE) | 1/18 | 5/2J | won 2¾ | Davy Russell | Daniel G Murphy | 19 Euro Punters Pack Mares Maiden Hurdle | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m3f | Heavy | 11-7 | - | Vole Au Vent (FR) | €8,280 | 24 | 2/15 |
| 18 Feb 15 | Punchestown (IRE) | 2/18 | 3/1 | 4¾ | Davy Russell | Daniel G Murphy | Festival Any Day Flexi Ticket Mares Maiden Hurdle | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m6f | Yielding | 10-13 | - | Queens Wild (IRE) | €6,900 | 18 | 0/12 |
| 31 Jan 15 | Fairyhouse (IRE) | 4/9 | 66/1 | dist | Davy Russell | Daniel G Murphy | Solerina Mares Novice Hurdle | Grade 3 | Hurdle | 2m2f | Soft to Heavy | 10-13 | - | Morning Run (IRE) | €19,500 | 79 | 1/8 |
| 13 Nov 14 | Clonmel (IRE) | 5/12 | 8/1 | 17¼ | Jonathan Burke | Daniel G Murphy | I.N.H. Stallion Owners European Breeders Fund Maiden Hurdle | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m4f | Heavy | 10-8 | - | Killultagh Vic (IRE) | €7,590 | 241 | 1/11 |
| 17 Mar 14 | Wexford (RH) (IRE) | 5/15 | 6/1 | 8¼ | Jonathan Burke | Daniel G Murphy | NOTNOWCATO At Knockhouse Stud Mares (Pro/Am) INH Flat Race | Non-handicap (unclassified) | NH Flat | 2m4f | Yielding | 11-1 | - | Carrigmoorna Rock (IRE) | €5,520 | 18 | 1/12 |
| 27 Feb 14 | Thurles (IRE) | 3/15 | 7/1 | 4¾ | Mr Derek O'Connor | Daniel G Murphy | Horse And Jockey Mares INH Flat Race | Non-handicap (unclassified) | NH Flat | 2m | Heavy | 11-8 | - | Whisper Rock (IRE) | €5,175 | 33 | 1/14 |
| 25 Jan 14 | Leopardstown (IRE) | 6/19 | 7/2 | 6½ | Paul Townend | Daniel G Murphy | leopardstown.com Mares Maiden Hurdle | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m | Soft | 11-5 | - | Back Before Dawn (IRE) | €6,900 | 14 | 0/16 |
| 11 Jan 14 | Punchestown (IRE) | 4/12 | 33/1 | 6½ | Davy Russell | Daniel G Murphy | David Trundley Artist At Punchestown Mares Maiden Hurdle | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m | Soft to Heavy | 11-5 | - | Railway Zira (IRE) | €6,900 | - | 1/10 |
Easter Handicap Hurdle
Grade C2m3fYielding
All fields
- Date
- 5 Apr 15
- Course
- Cork (IRE)
- Pos
- 3/17
- SP
- 14/1
- Btn
- 5
- Jockey
- Stephen Gray
- Trainer
- Daniel G Murphy
- Race
- Easter Handicap Hurdle
- Class
- Grade C
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m3f
- Going
- Yielding
- Wgt
- 9-11
- OR
- 111
- Winner / 2nd
- Misty Lady (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €19,500
- Days
- 22
- Future form
- 0/15
19 Euro Punters Pack Mares Maiden Hurdle
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m3fHeavy
All fields
- Date
- 14 Mar 15
- Course
- Limerick (IRE)
- Pos
- 1/18
- SP
- 5/2J
- Btn
- won 2¾
- Jockey
- Davy Russell
- Trainer
- Daniel G Murphy
- Race
- 19 Euro Punters Pack Mares Maiden Hurdle
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m3f
- Going
- Heavy
- Wgt
- 11-7
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Vole Au Vent (FR)
- Winner prize
- €8,280
- Days
- 24
- Future form
- 2/15
Festival Any Day Flexi Ticket Mares Maiden Hurdle
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m6fYielding
All fields
- Date
- 18 Feb 15
- Course
- Punchestown (IRE)
- Pos
- 2/18
- SP
- 3/1
- Btn
- 4¾
- Jockey
- Davy Russell
- Trainer
- Daniel G Murphy
- Race
- Festival Any Day Flexi Ticket Mares Maiden Hurdle
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m6f
- Going
- Yielding
- Wgt
- 10-13
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Queens Wild (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €6,900
- Days
- 18
- Future form
- 0/12
Solerina Mares Novice Hurdle
Grade 32m2fSoft to Heavy
All fields
- Date
- 31 Jan 15
- Course
- Fairyhouse (IRE)
- Pos
- 4/9
- SP
- 66/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Davy Russell
- Trainer
- Daniel G Murphy
- Race
- Solerina Mares Novice Hurdle
- Class
- Grade 3
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m2f
- Going
- Soft to Heavy
- Wgt
- 10-13
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Morning Run (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €19,500
- Days
- 79
- Future form
- 1/8
I.N.H. Stallion Owners European Breeders Fund Maiden Hurdle
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m4fHeavy
All fields
- Date
- 13 Nov 14
- Course
- Clonmel (IRE)
- Pos
- 5/12
- SP
- 8/1
- Btn
- 17¼
- Jockey
- Jonathan Burke
- Trainer
- Daniel G Murphy
- Race
- I.N.H. Stallion Owners European Breeders Fund Maiden Hurdle
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m4f
- Going
- Heavy
- Wgt
- 10-8
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Killultagh Vic (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €7,590
- Days
- 241
- Future form
- 1/11
- 5/1517 Mar 14 · Wexford (RH) (IRE)6/1
NOTNOWCATO At Knockhouse Stud Mares (Pro/Am) INH Flat Race
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m4fYielding
All fields
- Date
- 17 Mar 14
- Course
- Wexford (RH) (IRE)
- Pos
- 5/15
- SP
- 6/1
- Btn
- 8¼
- Jockey
- Jonathan Burke
- Trainer
- Daniel G Murphy
- Race
- NOTNOWCATO At Knockhouse Stud Mares (Pro/Am) INH Flat Race
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m4f
- Going
- Yielding
- Wgt
- 11-1
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Carrigmoorna Rock (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €5,520
- Days
- 18
- Future form
- 1/12
Horse And Jockey Mares INH Flat Race
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mHeavy
All fields
- Date
- 27 Feb 14
- Course
- Thurles (IRE)
- Pos
- 3/15
- SP
- 7/1
- Btn
- 4¾
- Jockey
- Mr Derek O'Connor
- Trainer
- Daniel G Murphy
- Race
- Horse And Jockey Mares INH Flat Race
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Heavy
- Wgt
- 11-8
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Whisper Rock (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €5,175
- Days
- 33
- Future form
- 1/14
leopardstown.com Mares Maiden Hurdle
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mSoft
All fields
- Date
- 25 Jan 14
- Course
- Leopardstown (IRE)
- Pos
- 6/19
- SP
- 7/2
- Btn
- 6½
- Jockey
- Paul Townend
- Trainer
- Daniel G Murphy
- Race
- leopardstown.com Mares Maiden Hurdle
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 11-5
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Back Before Dawn (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €6,900
- Days
- 14
- Future form
- 0/16
David Trundley Artist At Punchestown Mares Maiden Hurdle
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mSoft to Heavy
All fields
- Date
- 11 Jan 14
- Course
- Punchestown (IRE)
- Pos
- 4/12
- SP
- 33/1
- Btn
- 6½
- Jockey
- Davy Russell
- Trainer
- Daniel G Murphy
- Race
- David Trundley Artist At Punchestown Mares Maiden Hurdle
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Soft to Heavy
- Wgt
- 11-5
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Railway Zira (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €6,900
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 1/10
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 14 Mar 15 | Limerick (IRE) | 19 Euro Punters Pack Mares Maiden Hurdle | 1/18 | Emcon (IRE) | 4 | 5 Apr 15 | Cork (IRE) | Corkman Mares Maiden Hurdle |
| 14 Mar 15 | Limerick (IRE) | 19 Euro Punters Pack Mares Maiden Hurdle | 1/18 | One Cool Princess (IRE) | 5 | 26 Mar 15 | Cork (IRE) | CITSU Maiden Hurdle |
| 31 Jan 15 | Fairyhouse (IRE) | Solerina Mares Novice Hurdle | 4/9 | Rock On The Moor (IRE) | - | 18 Feb 15 | Punchestown (IRE) | punchestown.com Mares Hurdle |
| 13 Nov 14 | Clonmel (IRE) | I.N.H. Stallion Owners European Breeders Fund Maiden Hurdle | 5/12 | Zipporah (IRE) | 7 | 4 Dec 14 | Clonmel (IRE) | Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle |
| 17 Mar 14 | Wexford (RH) (IRE) | NOTNOWCATO At Knockhouse Stud Mares (Pro/Am) INH Flat Race | 5/15 | Missyspet (IRE) | 2 | 3 Apr 14 | Clonmel (IRE) | Comeragh Mares INH Flat Race |
| 27 Feb 14 | Thurles (IRE) | Horse And Jockey Mares INH Flat Race | 3/15 | Whisper Rock (IRE) | 1 | 29 Mar 14 | Navan (IRE) | I.N.H. Stallion Owners European Breeders Fund Mares Maiden Hurdle |
| 11 Jan 14 | Punchestown (IRE) | David Trundley Artist At Punchestown Mares Maiden Hurdle | 4/12 | Whisper Rock (IRE) | 3 | 27 Feb 14 | Thurles (IRE) | Horse And Jockey Mares INH Flat Race |
- 1/1814 Mar 15 · Limerick (IRE)
19 Euro Punters Pack Mares Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 14 Mar 15
- Course
- Limerick (IRE)
- Race
- 19 Euro Punters Pack Mares Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- 1/18
- Winner next time
- Emcon (IRE)
- Their pos
- 4
- Won on
- 5 Apr 15
- Race won
- Corkman Mares Maiden Hurdle
- 1/1814 Mar 15 · Limerick (IRE)
19 Euro Punters Pack Mares Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 14 Mar 15
- Course
- Limerick (IRE)
- Race
- 19 Euro Punters Pack Mares Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- 1/18
- Winner next time
- One Cool Princess (IRE)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 26 Mar 15
- Race won
- CITSU Maiden Hurdle
- 4/931 Jan 15 · Fairyhouse (IRE)
Solerina Mares Novice Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 31 Jan 15
- Course
- Fairyhouse (IRE)
- Race
- Solerina Mares Novice Hurdle
- This horse
- 4/9
- Winner next time
- Rock On The Moor (IRE)
- Their pos
- -
- Won on
- 18 Feb 15
- Race won
- punchestown.com Mares Hurdle
- 5/1213 Nov 14 · Clonmel (IRE)
I.N.H. Stallion Owners European Breeders Fund Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 13 Nov 14
- Course
- Clonmel (IRE)
- Race
- I.N.H. Stallion Owners European Breeders Fund Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- 5/12
- Winner next time
- Zipporah (IRE)
- Their pos
- 7
- Won on
- 4 Dec 14
- Race won
- Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle
- 5/1517 Mar 14 · Wexford (RH) (IRE)
NOTNOWCATO At Knockhouse Stud Mares (Pro/Am) INH Flat Race
All fields
- Date
- 17 Mar 14
- Course
- Wexford (RH) (IRE)
- Race
- NOTNOWCATO At Knockhouse Stud Mares (Pro/Am) INH Flat Race
- This horse
- 5/15
- Winner next time
- Missyspet (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 3 Apr 14
- Race won
- Comeragh Mares INH Flat Race
- 3/1527 Feb 14 · Thurles (IRE)
Horse And Jockey Mares INH Flat Race
All fields
- Date
- 27 Feb 14
- Course
- Thurles (IRE)
- Race
- Horse And Jockey Mares INH Flat Race
- This horse
- 3/15
- Winner next time
- Whisper Rock (IRE)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 29 Mar 14
- Race won
- I.N.H. Stallion Owners European Breeders Fund Mares Maiden Hurdle
- 4/1211 Jan 14 · Punchestown (IRE)
David Trundley Artist At Punchestown Mares Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 11 Jan 14
- Course
- Punchestown (IRE)
- Race
- David Trundley Artist At Punchestown Mares Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- 4/12
- Winner next time
- Whisper Rock (IRE)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 27 Feb 14
- Race won
- Horse And Jockey Mares INH Flat Race
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Daniel G Murphy | 11 Jan 14 | 5 Apr 15 | 4/12 | 111 | 111 | 111 | 9 | 1 | 1 | 2 | £0 | €14,405 |
Daniel G Murphy
- Trainer
- Daniel G Murphy
- First run
- 11 Jan 14
- Last run
- 5 Apr 15
- First run for yard
- 4/12
- OR first run
- 111
- OR last run
- 111
- Best OR
- 111
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €14,405
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 9 | 1 | 1 | 2 | £0 | €14,405 | 111 | 11 Jan 14 | 5 Apr 15 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €14,405
- Best OR
- 111
- First run
- 11 Jan 14
- Last run
- 5 Apr 15
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 7 | 1 | 1 | 1 | £0 | €13,880 | ||
| NH Flat | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €525 |
Hurdle
- Race type
- Hurdle
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €13,880
NH Flat
- Race type
- NH Flat
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €525
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yielding | 3 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £0 | €4,300 | ||
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Soft to Heavy | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €1,300 | ||
| Heavy | 3 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €8,805 |
Yielding
- Going
- Yielding
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €4,300
Soft
- Going
- Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Soft to Heavy
- Going
- Soft to Heavy
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,300
Heavy
- Going
- Heavy
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €8,805
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m to 2m1f | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €925 | ||
| 2m2f to 2m5f | 5 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €11,880 | ||
| 2m6f to 3m1f | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £0 | €1,600 |
2m to 2m1f
- Distance
- 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €925
2m2f to 2m5f
- Distance
- 2m2f to 2m5f
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €11,880
2m6f to 3m1f
- Distance
- 2m6f to 3m1f
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,600
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Punchestown (IRE) | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £0 | €2,000 | ||
| Limerick (IRE) | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €8,280 | ||
| Clonmel (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Cork (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €2,700 | ||
| Fairyhouse (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €900 | ||
| Leopardstown (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Thurles (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €525 | ||
| Wexford (RH) (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Punchestown (IRE)
- Course
- Punchestown (IRE)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €2,000
Limerick (IRE)
- Course
- Limerick (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €8,280
Clonmel (IRE)
- Course
- Clonmel (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Cork (IRE)
- Course
- Cork (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €2,700
Fairyhouse (IRE)
- Course
- Fairyhouse (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €900
Leopardstown (IRE)
- Course
- Leopardstown (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Thurles (IRE)
- Course
- Thurles (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €525
Wexford (RH) (IRE)
- Course
- Wexford (RH) (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Grade 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €900 | ||
| Non-handicap (unclassified) | 7 | 1 | 1 | 1 | £0 | €10,805 | ||
| Grade C | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €2,700 |
Grade 3
- Class
- Grade 3
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €900
Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €10,805
Grade C
- Class
- Grade C
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €2,700
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 9 to 12 runners | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €1,300 | ||
| 13 to 16 runners | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €525 | ||
| 17+ runners | 4 | 1 | 1 | 1 | £0 | €12,580 |
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,300
13 to 16 runners
- Runners
- 13 to 16 runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €525
17+ runners
- Runners
- 17+ runners
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €12,580
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| January | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €1,300 | ||
| February | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £0 | €2,125 | ||
| March | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €8,280 | ||
| April | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €2,700 | ||
| November | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
January
- Month
- January
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,300
February
- Month
- February
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €2,125
March
- Month
- March
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €8,280
April
- Month
- April
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €2,700
November
- Month
- November
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Davy Russell | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | £0 | €11,180 | ||
| Jonathan Burke | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Mr Derek O'Connor | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €525 | ||
| Paul Townend | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Stephen Gray | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €2,700 |
Davy Russell
- Jockey
- Davy Russell
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €11,180
Jonathan Burke
- Jockey
- Jonathan Burke
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Mr Derek O'Connor
- Jockey
- Mr Derek O'Connor
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €525
Paul Townend
- Jockey
- Paul Townend
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Stephen Gray
- Jockey
- Stephen Gray
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €2,700
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Daniel G Murphy | 9 | 1 | 1 | 2 | £0 | €14,405 |
Daniel G Murphy
- Trainer
- Daniel G Murphy
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €14,405
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 9 | 1 | 1 | 2 | £0 | €14,405 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €14,405
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €400 | ||
| 8 to 14 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 4 | 1 | 1 | 1 | £0 | €12,580 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €525 | ||
| 61 to 120 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €900 | ||
| 121 to 365 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €400
8 to 14 days
- Days since last run
- 8 to 14 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €12,580
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €525
61 to 120 days
- Days since last run
- 61 to 120 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €900
121 to 365 days
- Days since last run
- 121 to 365 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchFlemensfirth (USA)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireAlleged (USA)
- Sire's damEtheldreda (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchWhich Thistle (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireSaddlers' Hall (IRE)
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
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Breeding card
HorseWhy Not Thistle (IRE)
Sexmare
Foaled2009
SireFlemensfirth (USA)
DamWhich Thistle (IRE)
DamsireSaddlers' Hall (IRE)
Sire's sireAlleged (USA)
Sire's damEtheldreda (USA)
Dam's produce6 winners from 12 runners
Notable siblingMillford Hill (IRE)
Female line
- Which Thistle (IRE) · 6 winners from 12 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flemensfirth (USA) | Which Thistle (IRE) | Saddlers' Hall (IRE) | mare | Flat 15.8f · NH 2m4f | Flat 9.6f · NH 2m4f |
Flemensfirth (USA)
- Damsire
- Saddlers' Hall (IRE)
- Sex
- mare
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 15.8f · NH 2m4f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 9.6f · NH 2m4f
Progeny of Flemensfirth (USA) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 18,771 | 2,194 | 5,527 | 9 | 1 | ||
| At 2m2f to 2m5f | 6,812 | 761 | 1,958 | 5 | 1 | ||
| On Heavy going | 3,211 | 370 | 965 | 3 | 1 | ||
| At 2m2f to 2m5f on Heavy going | 1,192 | 131 | 351 | 2 | 1 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 18,771
- Wins
- 2,194
- Placed
- 5,527
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 9
- This horse wins
- 1
At 2m2f to 2m5f
- Condition
- At 2m2f to 2m5f
- Runs
- 6,812
- Wins
- 761
- Placed
- 1,958
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 5
- This horse wins
- 1
On Heavy going
- Condition
- On Heavy going
- Runs
- 3,211
- Wins
- 370
- Placed
- 965
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 1
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Heavy going
- Condition
- At 2m2f to 2m5f on Heavy going
- Runs
- 1,192
- Wins
- 131
- Placed
- 351
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 1
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Flemensfirth (USA) × Saddlers' Hall mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 75 | 41 | 6 | 911 | 116 | 205 | £732,244 | €1,251,050 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 75
- Winners
- 41
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 6
- Runs
- 911
- Wins
- 116
- 2nd/3rd
- 205
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £732,244
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,251,050
All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Best win | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Colreevy (IRE) | 15 | 9 | 6 | Group/Grade 1 | £53,037 | €268,236 |
| Jetz (IRE) | 28 | 4 | 1 | Group/Grade 3 | £0 | €140,235 |
| Ballyward (IRE) | 8 | 3 | 1 | Group/Grade 3 | £7,263 | €50,419 |
| Mack The Man (IRE) | 39 | 7 | 1 | Listed | £103,781 | €0 |
| Two Taffs (IRE) | 22 | 4 | 1 | Listed | £90,577 | €0 |
| Slip Of The Tongue (IRE) | 25 | 2 | 1 | Listed | £1,731 | €33,915 |
| Flemcara (IRE) | 31 | 6 | 0 | - | £72,034 | €0 |
| Miss Sapphire (IRE) | 11 | 5 | 0 | - | £0 | €56,897 |
| Ashtown Lad (IRE) | 27 | 5 | 0 | - | £154,945 | €0 |
| Beg To Differ (IRE) | 16 | 4 | 0 | - | £39,237 | €0 |
| Full Irish (IRE) | 20 | 4 | 0 | - | £39,106 | €0 |
| Backinthere (IRE) | 22 | 4 | 0 | - | £0 | €51,640 |
Colreevy (IRE)
- Horse
- Colreevy (IRE)
- Runs
- 15
- Wins
- 9
- Black-type wins
- 6
- Best win
- Group/Grade 1
- Prize GB (£)
- £53,037
- Prize IRE (€)
- €268,236
Jetz (IRE)
- Horse
- Jetz (IRE)
- Runs
- 28
- Wins
- 4
- Black-type wins
- 1
- Best win
- Group/Grade 3
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €140,235
Ballyward (IRE)
- Horse
- Ballyward (IRE)
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 3
- Black-type wins
- 1
- Best win
- Group/Grade 3
- Prize GB (£)
- £7,263
- Prize IRE (€)
- €50,419
Mack The Man (IRE)
- Horse
- Mack The Man (IRE)
- Runs
- 39
- Wins
- 7
- Black-type wins
- 1
- Best win
- Listed
- Prize GB (£)
- £103,781
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Two Taffs (IRE)
- Horse
- Two Taffs (IRE)
- Runs
- 22
- Wins
- 4
- Black-type wins
- 1
- Best win
- Listed
- Prize GB (£)
- £90,577
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Slip Of The Tongue (IRE)
- Runs
- 25
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 1
- Best win
- Listed
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,731
- Prize IRE (€)
- €33,915
Flemcara (IRE)
- Horse
- Flemcara (IRE)
- Runs
- 31
- Wins
- 6
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £72,034
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Miss Sapphire (IRE)
- Horse
- Miss Sapphire (IRE)
- Runs
- 11
- Wins
- 5
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €56,897
Ashtown Lad (IRE)
- Horse
- Ashtown Lad (IRE)
- Runs
- 27
- Wins
- 5
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £154,945
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Beg To Differ (IRE)
- Horse
- Beg To Differ (IRE)
- Runs
- 16
- Wins
- 4
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £39,237
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Full Irish (IRE)
- Horse
- Full Irish (IRE)
- Runs
- 20
- Wins
- 4
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £39,106
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Backinthere (IRE)
- Horse
- Backinthere (IRE)
- Runs
- 22
- Wins
- 4
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €51,640
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 111 | 111 | 111 | 1 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 111
- Highest OR
- 111
- Lowest OR
- 111
- Rated runs
- 1
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
| Date | Course | Code | OR | Pos |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5 Apr 15 | Cork (IRE) | NH | 111 | 3/17 |
- 3/175 Apr 15 · Cork (IRE)
All fields
- Date
- 5 Apr 15
- Course
- Cork (IRE)
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 111
- Pos
- 3/17
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 111 | 111 | 0 | 111 | 0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 111
- OR last run
- 111
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 111
- v highest
- 0
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 6 winners from 12 runners
Full siblings
- Millford Hill (IRE)0W · 6R
Half siblings
By Luso (GB)
- Irish Thistle (IRE)4W · 65R
By Classic Cliche (IRE)
- Littlemissthistle (IRE)0W · 3R
By Robin Des Champs (FR)
- Aengus (IRE)4W · 38R
- Noble Robin (IRE)2W · 5R
- Master Templar (IRE)0W · 12R
- Which Robin (IRE)0W · 1R
By Getaway (GER)
- Ted Thistle (IRE)0W · 2R
By Fame And Glory (GB)
- Barney Stinson (IRE)0W · 17R
By Arctic Cosmos (USA)
- Thistle Be The One (IRE)1W · 11R
By Blue Bresil (FR)
- That'll Be Oxo (IRE)1W · 2R
Female line
- 1Which Thistle (IRE)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Why Not Thistle foaled?
Why Not Thistle (IRE) was foaled in 2009.
Who are the sire and dam of Why Not Thistle?
Why Not Thistle (IRE) is by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Which Thistle (IRE), a daughter of Saddlers' Hall (IRE).
Who trained Why Not Thistle?
Why Not Thistle (IRE) was trained by Daniel G Murphy and owned by Ms Claudine Corrigan at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Why Not Thistle's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Why Not Thistle (IRE) won 1 of 9 races (11%). Runs abroad (for example in France, Dubai or the USA) are not included.
What is Why Not Thistle's biggest win?
Why Not Thistle (IRE)'s only win in Britain or Ireland came in the 19 Euro Punters Pack Mares Maiden Hurdle at Limerick (IRE) on 14 March 2015.
Has Why Not Thistle ever been beaten?
Why Not Thistle (IRE) was beaten 8 times in 9 runs in Britain and Ireland, the first time on 11 January 2014 at Punchestown (IRE) (4th of 12).
What was Why Not Thistle's official rating?
Why Not Thistle (IRE) was last officially rated 111 over jumps (also the career high).
Is Why Not Thistle still racing?
Why Not Thistle (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 5 April 2015 at Cork (IRE) in the Easter Handicap Hurdle, finishing 3rd of 17, and has not run there since.
What is Why Not Thistle's record at Punchestown (IRE)?
Why Not Thistle (IRE) ran most often at Punchestown (IRE), with no wins from 2 runs there.
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