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Talking Tactics (IRE) silks

Horse profile

Talking Tactics

Bigstone (IRE) × Soviet Pretender (USA) (Alleged (USA))
Sex
gelding
Foaled
1998
Highest OR
90
Record (GB & IRE)
2 wins from 15 runs (13%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
€25,805 IRE
Last official rating
85 (Jumps)
Last run (GB & IRE)
29 Oct 2005, Naas (IRE) (9/16)
Last win (GB & IRE)
2 Mar 2003, Leopardstown (IRE)
Recent form
1787112PU1313126416149

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtORHeadgearWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
29 Oct 05Naas (IRE)9/1610/1distAlan CroweC RocheWeatherbys Ireland GSB Handicap ChaseHandicap (unclassified)Chase2mSoft10-1185tbEden Royale (IRE)€8,29291/15
20 Oct 05Punchestown (IRE)14/2212/1distAlan CroweC RocheGo Racing In Kildare Handicap ChaseHandicap (unclassified)Chase2m4fGood10-686tbCharging (IRE)€8,6381330/20
9 Jun 05Tipperary (IRE)16/208/1distMark WalshC Rochewww.tipperaryraces.ie Handicap ChaseHandicap (unclassified)Chase2m4fGood10-1287tHarry Husyan (IRE)€6,91050/17
4 Jun 05Kilbeggan (IRE)4/1112/19½Mark WalshC RocheIrish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Handicap ChaseHandicap (unclassified)Chase2m4fYielding to Soft10-087tJack Of The Cross (IRE)€10,3651810/9
5 Dec 04Punchestown (IRE)6/89/1distAlan CroweC RocheRyan's Event Cleaners Handicap ChaseHandicap (unclassified)Chase2mSoft10-790-Houdunnit (IRE)€11,056241/7
11 Nov 04Clonmel (IRE)12/1520/1distAlan CroweC RocheIrish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Beginners ChaseNon-handicap (unclassified)Chase2m1fYielding11-12-tScarthy Lad (IRE)€10,36572/14
4 Nov 04Thurles (IRE)13/1612/1distAlan CroweC RocheKillinan Beginners ChaseNon-handicap (unclassified)Chase2mYielding11-12-tRoyal Alphabet (IRE)€8,29241/15
31 Oct 04Clonmel (IRE)13/167/1distAlan CroweC RocheIrish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Captain Christy Novice ChaseNon-handicap (unclassified)Chase2m2fSoft to Heavy11-5--Steel Band (GB)€11,74761/15
25 Oct 04Galway (IRE)PU/178/1-Alan CroweC RocheW.B. Gavin & Co. European Breeders Fund Beginners ChaseNon-handicap (unclassified)Chase2m6½fHeavy11-12--Cane Brake (IRE)€13,0205890/15
16 Mar 03Punchestown (IRE)2/49/47Paul MoloneyC RocheLocks Restaurant Novice HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mYielding11-10--Fota Island (IRE)€13,000141/3
2 Mar 03Leopardstown (IRE)1/88/1won ½Paul MoloneyC RocheBallsbridge Inter Varsity HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mHeavy11-12--Statim (GB)€11,040150/7
15 Feb 03Gowran Park (IRE)1/1712/1won 1½Paul MoloneyC RocheI.N.H. Stallion Owners European Breeders Fund Maiden Hurdle (Div I)Non-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mYielding11-4--Kaoutchou (FR)€10,350180/15
28 Jan 03Tramore (IRE)7/1510/1distPaul MoloneyC RocheSaltan Properties INH Stallion Owners EBF Novice HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mSoft10-10--Uncle Murt (IRE)€10,695590/14
30 Nov 02Fairyhouse (IRE)8/2350/127½D F FlanneryC RocheTote Exacta HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2m2fSoft10-6--Turtleback (IRE)€13,000130/20
17 Nov 02Navan (IRE)17/2933/1distD F FlanneryC RocheI.N.H. Stallion Owners E.B.F. Maiden HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mSoft11-0--Plenty Of Ice (IRE)€9,315-2/28
  • 9/1629 Oct 05 · Naas (IRE)10/1

    Weatherbys Ireland GSB Handicap Chase

    Handicap (unclassified)2mSoft

    All fields
    Date
    29 Oct 05
    Pos
    9/16
    SP
    10/1
    Btn
    dist
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    Weatherbys Ireland GSB Handicap Chase
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    10-11
    OR
    85
    Headgear
    tb
    Winner / 2nd
    Eden Royale (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €8,292
    Days
    9
    Future form
    1/15
  • 14/2220 Oct 05 · Punchestown (IRE)12/1

    Go Racing In Kildare Handicap Chase

    Handicap (unclassified)2m4fGood

    All fields
    Date
    20 Oct 05
    Pos
    14/22
    SP
    12/1
    Btn
    dist
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    Go Racing In Kildare Handicap Chase
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    10-6
    OR
    86
    Headgear
    tb
    Winner / 2nd
    Charging (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €8,638
    Days
    133
    Future form
    0/20
  • 16/209 Jun 05 · Tipperary (IRE)8/1

    www.tipperaryraces.ie Handicap Chase

    Handicap (unclassified)2m4fGood

    All fields
    Date
    9 Jun 05
    Pos
    16/20
    SP
    8/1
    Btn
    dist
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    www.tipperaryraces.ie Handicap Chase
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    10-12
    OR
    87
    Headgear
    t
    Winner / 2nd
    Harry Husyan (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €6,910
    Days
    5
    Future form
    0/17
  • 4/114 Jun 05 · Kilbeggan (IRE)12/1

    Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Handicap Chase

    Handicap (unclassified)2m4fYielding to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    4 Jun 05
    Pos
    4/11
    SP
    12/1
    Btn
    9½
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Handicap Chase
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Yielding to Soft
    Wgt
    10-0
    OR
    87
    Headgear
    t
    Winner prize
    €10,365
    Days
    181
    Future form
    0/9
  • 6/85 Dec 04 · Punchestown (IRE)9/1

    Ryan's Event Cleaners Handicap Chase

    Handicap (unclassified)2mSoft

    All fields
    Date
    5 Dec 04
    Pos
    6/8
    SP
    9/1
    Btn
    dist
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    Ryan's Event Cleaners Handicap Chase
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    10-7
    OR
    90
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Houdunnit (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €11,056
    Days
    24
    Future form
    1/7
  • 12/1511 Nov 04 · Clonmel (IRE)20/1

    Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Beginners Chase

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m1fYielding

    All fields
    Date
    11 Nov 04
    Pos
    12/15
    SP
    20/1
    Btn
    dist
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Beginners Chase
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m1f
    Going
    Yielding
    Wgt
    11-12
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    t
    Winner / 2nd
    Scarthy Lad (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €10,365
    Days
    7
    Future form
    2/14
  • 13/164 Nov 04 · Thurles (IRE)12/1

    Killinan Beginners Chase

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2mYielding

    All fields
    Date
    4 Nov 04
    Pos
    13/16
    SP
    12/1
    Btn
    dist
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    Killinan Beginners Chase
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Yielding
    Wgt
    11-12
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    t
    Winner prize
    €8,292
    Days
    4
    Future form
    1/15
  • 13/1631 Oct 04 · Clonmel (IRE)7/1

    Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Captain Christy Novice Chase

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m2fSoft to Heavy

    All fields
    Date
    31 Oct 04
    Pos
    13/16
    SP
    7/1
    Btn
    dist
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Captain Christy Novice Chase
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m2f
    Going
    Soft to Heavy
    Wgt
    11-5
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Steel Band (GB)
    Winner prize
    €11,747
    Days
    6
    Future form
    1/15
  • PU/1725 Oct 04 · Galway (IRE)8/1

    W.B. Gavin & Co. European Breeders Fund Beginners Chase

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m6½fHeavy

    All fields
    Date
    25 Oct 04
    Pos
    PU/17
    SP
    8/1
    Btn
    -
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    W.B. Gavin & Co. European Breeders Fund Beginners Chase
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m6½f
    Going
    Heavy
    Wgt
    11-12
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Cane Brake (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €13,020
    Days
    589
    Future form
    0/15
  • 2/416 Mar 03 · Punchestown (IRE)9/4

    Locks Restaurant Novice Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2mYielding

    All fields
    Date
    16 Mar 03
    Pos
    2/4
    SP
    9/4
    Btn
    7
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    Locks Restaurant Novice Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Yielding
    Wgt
    11-10
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Fota Island (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €13,000
    Days
    14
    Future form
    1/3
  • 1/82 Mar 03 · Leopardstown (IRE)8/1

    Ballsbridge Inter Varsity Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2mHeavy

    All fields
    Date
    2 Mar 03
    Pos
    1/8
    SP
    8/1
    Btn
    won ½
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    Ballsbridge Inter Varsity Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Heavy
    Wgt
    11-12
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Statim (GB)
    Winner prize
    €11,040
    Days
    15
    Future form
    0/7
  • 1/1715 Feb 03 · Gowran Park (IRE)12/1

    I.N.H. Stallion Owners European Breeders Fund Maiden Hurdle (Div I)

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2mYielding

    All fields
    Date
    15 Feb 03
    Pos
    1/17
    SP
    12/1
    Btn
    won 1½
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    I.N.H. Stallion Owners European Breeders Fund Maiden Hurdle (Div I)
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Yielding
    Wgt
    11-4
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Kaoutchou (FR)
    Winner prize
    €10,350
    Days
    18
    Future form
    0/15
  • 7/1528 Jan 03 · Tramore (IRE)10/1

    Saltan Properties INH Stallion Owners EBF Novice Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2mSoft

    All fields
    Date
    28 Jan 03
    Pos
    7/15
    SP
    10/1
    Btn
    dist
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    Saltan Properties INH Stallion Owners EBF Novice Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    10-10
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Uncle Murt (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €10,695
    Days
    59
    Future form
    0/14
  • 8/2330 Nov 02 · Fairyhouse (IRE)50/1

    Tote Exacta Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m2fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    30 Nov 02
    Pos
    8/23
    SP
    50/1
    Btn
    27½
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    Tote Exacta Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m2f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    10-6
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Turtleback (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €13,000
    Days
    13
    Future form
    0/20
  • 17/2917 Nov 02 · Navan (IRE)33/1

    I.N.H. Stallion Owners E.B.F. Maiden Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2mSoft

    All fields
    Date
    17 Nov 02
    Pos
    17/29
    SP
    33/1
    Btn
    dist
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    I.N.H. Stallion Owners E.B.F. Maiden Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    11-0
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner prize
    €9,315
    Days
    -
    Future form
    2/28

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
29 Oct 05Naas (IRE)Weatherbys Ireland GSB Handicap Chase9/16Dun Doire (IRE)512 Nov 05WetherbyIntegrated Technical Systems - Barrie McDermott Testimonial Novices' Handicap…
5 Dec 04Punchestown (IRE)Ryan's Event Cleaners Handicap Chase6/8Balapour (IRE)-16 Feb 05Down Royal (IRE)NIHF Sean Small Memorial Beginners Chase
11 Nov 04Clonmel (IRE)Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Beginners Chase12/15Scarthy Lad (IRE)16 Jan 05Thurles (IRE)Phil Sweeney Memorial Chase
11 Nov 04Clonmel (IRE)Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Beginners Chase12/15Keepatem (IRE)417 Nov 04Downpatrick (IRE)Downpatrick Supporters Club Beginners Chase
4 Nov 04Thurles (IRE)Killinan Beginners Chase13/16Sea To Sky (FR)-17 Nov 04Downpatrick (IRE)Toals Bookmakers On-Course Shop Beginners Chase
31 Oct 04Clonmel (IRE)Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Captain Christy Novice Chase13/16Nolans Pride (IRE)612 Nov 04Wexford (RH) (IRE)Vinegar Hill Mares Beginners Chase
16 Mar 03Punchestown (IRE)Locks Restaurant Novice Hurdle2/4Monty's Pass (IRE)45 Apr 03AintreeMartell Cognac Grand National Chase Showcase Handicap Grade 3
17 Nov 02Navan (IRE)I.N.H. Stallion Owners E.B.F. Maiden Hurdle17/29Moss Bawn (IRE)85 Dec 02Thurles (IRE)Cahir Maiden Hurdle
17 Nov 02Navan (IRE)I.N.H. Stallion Owners E.B.F. Maiden Hurdle17/29Back Nine (IRE)1111 Jan 03Navan (IRE)betfair.com I.N.H. Flat Race
  • 9/1629 Oct 05 · Naas (IRE)

    Weatherbys Ireland GSB Handicap Chase

    All fields
    Date
    29 Oct 05
    Race
    Weatherbys Ireland GSB Handicap Chase
    This horse
    9/16
    Winner next time
    Dun Doire (IRE)
    Their pos
    5
    Won on
    12 Nov 05
    Race won
    Integrated Technical Systems - Barrie McDermott Testimonial Novices' Handicap…
  • 6/85 Dec 04 · Punchestown (IRE)

    Ryan's Event Cleaners Handicap Chase

    All fields
    Date
    5 Dec 04
    Race
    Ryan's Event Cleaners Handicap Chase
    This horse
    6/8
    Winner next time
    Balapour (IRE)
    Their pos
    -
    Won on
    16 Feb 05
    Race won
    NIHF Sean Small Memorial Beginners Chase
  • 12/1511 Nov 04 · Clonmel (IRE)

    Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Beginners Chase

    All fields
    Date
    11 Nov 04
    Race
    Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Beginners Chase
    This horse
    12/15
    Winner next time
    Scarthy Lad (IRE)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    6 Jan 05
    Race won
    Phil Sweeney Memorial Chase
  • 12/1511 Nov 04 · Clonmel (IRE)

    Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Beginners Chase

    All fields
    Date
    11 Nov 04
    Race
    Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Beginners Chase
    This horse
    12/15
    Winner next time
    Keepatem (IRE)
    Their pos
    4
    Won on
    17 Nov 04
    Race won
    Downpatrick Supporters Club Beginners Chase
  • 13/164 Nov 04 · Thurles (IRE)

    Killinan Beginners Chase

    All fields
    Date
    4 Nov 04
    Race
    Killinan Beginners Chase
    This horse
    13/16
    Winner next time
    Sea To Sky (FR)
    Their pos
    -
    Won on
    17 Nov 04
    Race won
    Toals Bookmakers On-Course Shop Beginners Chase
  • 13/1631 Oct 04 · Clonmel (IRE)

    Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Captain Christy Novice Chase

    All fields
    Date
    31 Oct 04
    Race
    Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Captain Christy Novice Chase
    This horse
    13/16
    Winner next time
    Nolans Pride (IRE)
    Their pos
    6
    Won on
    12 Nov 04
    At
    Wexford (RH) (IRE)
    Race won
    Vinegar Hill Mares Beginners Chase
  • 2/416 Mar 03 · Punchestown (IRE)

    Locks Restaurant Novice Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    16 Mar 03
    Race
    Locks Restaurant Novice Hurdle
    This horse
    2/4
    Winner next time
    Monty's Pass (IRE)
    Their pos
    4
    Won on
    5 Apr 03
    Race won
    Martell Cognac Grand National Chase Showcase Handicap Grade 3
  • 17/2917 Nov 02 · Navan (IRE)

    I.N.H. Stallion Owners E.B.F. Maiden Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    17 Nov 02
    Race
    I.N.H. Stallion Owners E.B.F. Maiden Hurdle
    This horse
    17/29
    Winner next time
    Moss Bawn (IRE)
    Their pos
    8
    Won on
    5 Dec 02
    Race won
    Cahir Maiden Hurdle
  • 17/2917 Nov 02 · Navan (IRE)

    I.N.H. Stallion Owners E.B.F. Maiden Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    17 Nov 02
    Race
    I.N.H. Stallion Owners E.B.F. Maiden Hurdle
    This horse
    17/29
    Winner next time
    Back Nine (IRE)
    Their pos
    11
    Won on
    11 Jan 03
    Race won
    betfair.com I.N.H. Flat Race

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardOR first runOR last runBest ORRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
C Roche17 Nov 0229 Oct 0517/299085901521013.3%13.3%£0€25,805
C Roche
Trainer
C Roche
First run
17 Nov 02
Last run
29 Oct 05
First run for yard
17/29
OR first run
90
OR last run
85
Best OR
90
Runs
15
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
13.3%
Place %
13.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€25,805

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)Best ORFirst runLast run
National Hunt1521013.3%13.3%£0€25,8059017 Nov 0229 Oct 05
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
15
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
13.3%
Place %
13.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€25,805
Best OR
90
First run
17 Nov 02
Last run
29 Oct 05

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Hurdle621033.3%33.3%£0€25,190
Chase90000.0%0.0%£0€615
Hurdle
Race type
Hurdle
Runs
6
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
33.3%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€25,190
Chase
Race type
Chase
Runs
9
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€615

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Good20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Yielding411025.0%25.0%£0€14,150
Yielding to Soft10000.0%0.0%£0€615
Soft50000.0%0.0%£0€0
Soft to Heavy10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Heavy210050.0%50.0%£0€11,040
Good
Going
Good
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Yielding
Going
Yielding
Runs
4
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
25.0%
Place %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€14,150
Yielding to Soft
Going
Yielding to Soft
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€615
Soft
Going
Soft
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Soft to Heavy
Going
Soft to Heavy
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Heavy
Going
Heavy
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€11,040

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
2m to 2m1f921022.2%22.2%£0€25,190
2m2f to 2m5f50000.0%0.0%£0€615
2m6f to 3m1f10000.0%0.0%£0€0
2m to 2m1f
Distance
2m to 2m1f
Runs
9
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
22.2%
Place %
22.2%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€25,190
2m2f to 2m5f
Distance
2m2f to 2m5f
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€615
2m6f to 3m1f
Distance
2m6f to 3m1f
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Punchestown (IRE)30100.0%0.0%£0€3,800
Clonmel (IRE)20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Gowran Park (IRE)1100100.0%100.0%£0€10,350
Leopardstown (IRE)1100100.0%100.0%£0€11,040
Fairyhouse (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Galway (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Kilbeggan (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€615
Naas (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Navan (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Thurles (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Tipperary (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Tramore (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Punchestown (IRE)
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€3,800
Clonmel (IRE)
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Gowran Park (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€10,350
Leopardstown (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€11,040
Fairyhouse (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Galway (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Kilbeggan (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€615
Naas (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Navan (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Thurles (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Tipperary (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Tramore (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Non-handicap (unclassified)1021020.0%20.0%£0€25,190
Handicap (unclassified)50000.0%0.0%£0€615
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Class
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Runs
10
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
20.0%
Place %
20.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€25,190
Handicap (unclassified)
Class
Handicap (unclassified)
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€615

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
2 to 5 runners10100.0%0.0%£0€3,800
6 to 8 runners210050.0%50.0%£0€11,040
9 to 12 runners10000.0%0.0%£0€615
13 to 16 runners50000.0%0.0%£0€0
17+ runners610016.7%16.7%£0€10,350
2 to 5 runners
Runners
2 to 5 runners
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€3,800
6 to 8 runners
Runners
6 to 8 runners
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€11,040
9 to 12 runners
Runners
9 to 12 runners
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€615
13 to 16 runners
Runners
13 to 16 runners
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
17+ runners
Runners
17+ runners
Runs
6
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
16.7%
Place %
16.7%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€10,350

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
January10000.0%0.0%£0€0
February1100100.0%100.0%£0€10,350
March211050.0%50.0%£0€14,840
June20000.0%0.0%£0€615
October40000.0%0.0%£0€0
November40000.0%0.0%£0€0
December10000.0%0.0%£0€0
January
Month
January
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
February
Month
February
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€10,350
March
Month
March
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€14,840
June
Month
June
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€615
October
Month
October
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
November
Month
November
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
December
Month
December
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Alan Crowe70000.0%0.0%£0€0
Paul Moloney421050.0%50.0%£0€25,190
D F Flannery20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Mark Walsh20000.0%0.0%£0€615
Alan Crowe
Runs
7
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Paul Moloney
Runs
4
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€25,190
D F Flannery
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Mark Walsh
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€615

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
C Roche1521013.3%13.3%£0€25,805
C Roche
Trainer
C Roche
Runs
15
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
13.3%
Place %
13.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€25,805

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear921022.2%22.2%£0€25,190
t40000.0%0.0%£0€615
tb20000.0%0.0%£0€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
9
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
22.2%
Place %
22.2%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€25,190
t
Headgear
t
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€615
tb
Headgear
tb
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10000.0%0.0%£0€0
1 to 7 days40000.0%0.0%£0€0
8 to 14 days30100.0%0.0%£0€3,800
15 to 30 days320066.7%66.7%£0€21,390
31 to 60 days10000.0%0.0%£0€0
121 to 365 days20000.0%0.0%£0€615
Over a year10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
1 to 7 days
Days since last run
1 to 7 days
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
8 to 14 days
Days since last run
8 to 14 days
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€3,800
15 to 30 days
Days since last run
15 to 30 days
Runs
3
Wins
2
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
66.7%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€21,390
31 to 60 days
Days since last run
31 to 60 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
121 to 365 days
Days since last run
121 to 365 days
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€615
Over a year
Days since last run
Over a year
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

By first-time headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
First time in any headgear10000.0%0.0%£0€0
First time blinkers10000.0%0.0%£0€0
First time tongue strap10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Headgear, all items worn before40000.0%0.0%£0€615
No headgear921022.2%22.2%£0€25,190
First time in any headgear
Headgear
First time in any headgear
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
First time blinkers
Headgear
First time blinkers
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
First time tongue strap
Headgear
First time tongue strap
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Headgear, all items worn before
Headgear
Headgear, all items worn before
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€615
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
9
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
22.2%
Place %
22.2%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€25,190

A run can count in more than one "first time" row (e.g. first-time blinkers and first headgear of any kind). First time is judged against earlier British and Irish runs only.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchBigstone (IRE)

Parent · 1

  1. SireBigstone (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireLast Tycoon (IRE)
  2. Sire's damBatave (GB)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchSoviet Pretender (USA)

Parent · 1

  1. DamSoviet Pretender (USA)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireAlleged (USA)
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Bigstone (IRE)
Soviet Pretender (USA)
Last Tycoon (IRE)
Batave (GB)
Alleged (USA)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseTalking Tactics (IRE)
Sexgelding
Foaled1998
SireBigstone (IRE)
DamSoviet Pretender (USA)
DamsireAlleged (USA)
Sire's sireLast Tycoon (IRE)
Sire's damBatave (GB)
Dam's produce1 winners from 3 runners
Notable siblingAshtrakan (IRE)

Female line

  1. Soviet Pretender (USA) · 1 winners from 3 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Bigstone (IRE)Soviet Pretender (USA)Alleged (USA)geldingFlat 8.2f · NH 2m2½fFlat 9.6f · NH 2m3f
Bigstone (IRE)
Sex
gelding
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 8.2f · NH 2m2½f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 9.6f · NH 2m3f

Progeny of Bigstone (IRE) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs96710625111.0%26.0%152
At 2m to 2m1f4415612412.7%28.1%92
On Good to soft or yielding going19516518.2%26.2%51
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going95102910.5%30.5%41
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
967
Wins
106
Placed
251
Win %
11.0%
Place %
26.0%
This horse runs
15
This horse wins
2
At 2m to 2m1f
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f
Runs
441
Wins
56
Placed
124
Win %
12.7%
Place %
28.1%
This horse runs
9
This horse wins
2
On Good to soft or yielding going
Condition
On Good to soft or yielding going
Runs
195
Wins
16
Placed
51
Win %
8.2%
Place %
26.2%
This horse runs
5
This horse wins
1
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
Runs
95
Wins
10
Placed
29
Win %
10.5%
Place %
30.5%
This horse runs
4
This horse wins
1

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Bigstone (IRE) × Alleged mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Flat11100.0%030193.3%£11,523€0
National Hunt2150.0%0162112.5%£0€25,805
All runs22100.0%0463106.5%£11,523€25,805
Flat
Code
Flat
Runners
1
Winners
1
Winners %
100.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
30
Wins
1
2nd/3rd
9
Win %
3.3%
Prize GB (£)
£11,523
Prize IRE (€)
€0
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
2
Winners
1
Winners %
50.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
16
Wins
2
2nd/3rd
1
Win %
12.5%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€25,805
All runs
Code
All runs
Runners
2
Winners
2
Winners %
100.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
46
Wins
3
2nd/3rd
10
Win %
6.5%
Prize GB (£)
£11,523
Prize IRE (€)
€25,805

All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Talking Tactics (IRE)1520£0€25,805
Compatriot I (IRE)3110£11,523€0
Talking Tactics (IRE)
Runs
15
Wins
2
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€25,805
Compatriot I (IRE)
Runs
31
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£11,523
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Ratings

Official ratings

CodeCurrent ORHighest ORLowest ORRated runs
National Hunt8590855
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
85
Highest OR
90
Lowest OR
85
Rated runs
5

Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.

Official rating by run

DateCourseCodeORChangePos
29 Oct 05Naas (IRE)NH85-19/16
20 Oct 05Punchestown (IRE)NH86-114/22
9 Jun 05Tipperary (IRE)NH87016/20
4 Jun 05Kilbeggan (IRE)NH87-34/11
5 Dec 04Punchestown (IRE)NH90-6/8

Current mark v winning marks

CodeCurrent OROR last runChangeHighest ORv highest
National Hunt8585090-5
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
85
OR last run
85
Change
0
Highest OR
90
v highest
-5

Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.

Family

Dam summary

Soviet Pretender (USA)

G1 winners
0
Produce
1 winners from 3 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Bigstone (IRE) out of Soviet Pretender (USA) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Ashkalani (IRE)

By Spectrum (IRE)

Female line

  1. 1Soviet Pretender (USA)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

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In brief

When was Talking Tactics foaled?

Talking Tactics (IRE) was foaled in 1998.

Who are the sire and dam of Talking Tactics?

Talking Tactics (IRE) is by Bigstone (IRE) out of Soviet Pretender (USA), a daughter of Alleged (USA).

Who trained Talking Tactics?

Talking Tactics (IRE) was trained by C Roche and owned by John P McManus at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Talking Tactics' race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Talking Tactics (IRE) won 2 of 15 races (13%).

Has Talking Tactics ever been beaten?

Talking Tactics (IRE) was beaten 13 times in 15 runs in Britain and Ireland, the first time on 17 November 2002 at Navan (IRE) (17th of 29).

What was Talking Tactics' official rating?

Talking Tactics (IRE) was last officially rated 85 over jumps (career high 90).

Is Talking Tactics still racing?

Talking Tactics (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 29 October 2005 at Naas (IRE) in the Weatherbys Ireland GSB Handicap Chase, finishing 9th of 16, and has not run there since.

What is Talking Tactics' record at Punchestown (IRE)?

Talking Tactics (IRE) ran most often at Punchestown (IRE), with no wins from 3 runs there.

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