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Horse profile
Probably
- TrainerDavid Wachman
- OwnerCoolmore (Michael Tabor & Mrs John Magnier & Derrick Smith)
- FamilyDoff The Derby
- Sex
- colt
- Foaled
- 2010
- Highest OR
- 106
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 2 wins from 6 runs (33%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- €87,250 IRE
- Last official rating
- 103 (Flat)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 30 Sep 2012, Curragh (IRE) (3/4)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- 30 Jun 2012, Curragh (IRE)
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 30 Sep 12 | Curragh (IRE) | 3/4 | 11/2 | 3¾ | Wayne Lordan | David Wachman | Juddmonte Beresford Stakes | Group 2 | Flat Turf | 1m | Heavy | 9-6 | 103 | Battle Of Marengo (IRE) | €61,750 | 15 | 1/3 |
| 15 Sep 12 | Curragh (IRE) | 4/7 | 12/1 | 10½ | Wayne Lordan | David Wachman | Goffs Vincent O'Brien Stakes | Group 1 | Flat Turf | 7f | Yielding | 9-3 | 106 | Dawn Approach (IRE) | €116,000 | 34 | 2/5 |
| 12 Aug 12 | Curragh (IRE) | 4/6 | 5/4F | 5 | Wayne Lordan | David Wachman | Keeneland Phoenix Stakes | Group 1 | Flat Turf | 6f | Soft | 9-3 | 106 | Pedro The Great (USA) | €110,200 | 43 | 0/4 |
| 30 Jun 12 | Curragh (IRE) | 1/6 | 7/1 | won 1¾ | Billy Lee | David Wachman | Dubai Duty Free Full Of Surprises Railway Stakes | Group 2 | Flat Turf | 6f | Soft to Heavy | 9-3 | - | Cristoforo Colombo (USA) | €57,150 | 14 | 1/5 |
| 16 Jun 12 | Limerick (IRE) | 1/7 | 1/2F | won 2 | Billy Lee | David Wachman | Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Flat Turf | 7f | Good to Yielding | 9-5 | - | Kingston Jamaica (IRE) | €8,625 | 20 | 1/6 |
| 27 May 12 | Curragh (IRE) | 3/12 | 16/1 | 2½ | Wayne Lordan | David Wachman | Big Bad Bob European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Flat Turf | 6f | Good | 9-5 | - | Helene Super Star (USA) | €12,075 | - | 3/11 |
- 3/430 Sep 12 · Curragh (IRE)11/2
Juddmonte Beresford Stakes
Group 21mHeavy
All fields
- Date
- 30 Sep 12
- Course
- Curragh (IRE)
- Pos
- 3/4
- SP
- 11/2
- Btn
- 3¾
- Jockey
- Wayne Lordan
- Trainer
- David Wachman
- Race
- Juddmonte Beresford Stakes
- Class
- Group 2
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m
- Going
- Heavy
- Wgt
- 9-6
- OR
- 103
- Winner / 2nd
- Battle Of Marengo (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €61,750
- Days
- 15
- Future form
- 1/3
- 4/715 Sep 12 · Curragh (IRE)12/1
Goffs Vincent O'Brien Stakes
Group 17fYielding
All fields
- Date
- 15 Sep 12
- Course
- Curragh (IRE)
- Pos
- 4/7
- SP
- 12/1
- Btn
- 10½
- Jockey
- Wayne Lordan
- Trainer
- David Wachman
- Race
- Goffs Vincent O'Brien Stakes
- Class
- Group 1
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 7f
- Going
- Yielding
- Wgt
- 9-3
- OR
- 106
- Winner / 2nd
- Dawn Approach (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €116,000
- Days
- 34
- Future form
- 2/5
- 4/612 Aug 12 · Curragh (IRE)5/4F
Keeneland Phoenix Stakes
Group 16fSoft
All fields
- Date
- 12 Aug 12
- Course
- Curragh (IRE)
- Pos
- 4/6
- SP
- 5/4F
- Btn
- 5
- Jockey
- Wayne Lordan
- Trainer
- David Wachman
- Race
- Keeneland Phoenix Stakes
- Class
- Group 1
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 9-3
- OR
- 106
- Winner / 2nd
- Pedro The Great (USA)
- Winner prize
- €110,200
- Days
- 43
- Future form
- 0/4
- 1/630 Jun 12 · Curragh (IRE)7/1
Dubai Duty Free Full Of Surprises Railway Stakes
Group 26fSoft to Heavy
All fields
- Date
- 30 Jun 12
- Course
- Curragh (IRE)
- Pos
- 1/6
- SP
- 7/1
- Btn
- won 1¾
- Jockey
- Billy Lee
- Trainer
- David Wachman
- Race
- Dubai Duty Free Full Of Surprises Railway Stakes
- Class
- Group 2
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Soft to Heavy
- Wgt
- 9-3
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Cristoforo Colombo (USA)
- Winner prize
- €57,150
- Days
- 14
- Future form
- 1/5
Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden
Non-handicap (unclassified)7fGood to Yielding
All fields
- Date
- 16 Jun 12
- Course
- Limerick (IRE)
- Pos
- 1/7
- SP
- 1/2F
- Btn
- won 2
- Jockey
- Billy Lee
- Trainer
- David Wachman
- Race
- Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 7f
- Going
- Good to Yielding
- Wgt
- 9-5
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Kingston Jamaica (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €8,625
- Days
- 20
- Future form
- 1/6
- 3/1227 May 12 · Curragh (IRE)16/1
Big Bad Bob European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden
Non-handicap (unclassified)6fGood
All fields
- Date
- 27 May 12
- Course
- Curragh (IRE)
- Pos
- 3/12
- SP
- 16/1
- Btn
- 2½
- Jockey
- Wayne Lordan
- Trainer
- David Wachman
- Race
- Big Bad Bob European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 9-5
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Helene Super Star (USA)
- Winner prize
- €12,075
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 3/11
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 30 Sep 12 | Curragh (IRE) | Juddmonte Beresford Stakes | 3/4 | Battle Of Marengo (IRE) | 1 | 14 Apr 13 | Leopardstown (IRE) | P.W. McGrath Memorial Ballysax Stakes |
| 15 Sep 12 | Curragh (IRE) | Goffs Vincent O'Brien Stakes | 4/7 | Dawn Approach (IRE) | 1 | 13 Oct 12 | Newmarket | Dubai Dewhurst Stakes |
| 15 Sep 12 | Curragh (IRE) | Goffs Vincent O'Brien Stakes | 4/7 | Nevis (IRE) | 6 | 11 May 13 | Lingfield | Betfred Derby Trial Stakes (Colts & Geldings) |
| 30 Jun 12 | Curragh (IRE) | Dubai Duty Free Full Of Surprises Railway Stakes | 1/6 | Pedro The Great (USA) | 5 | 12 Aug 12 | Curragh (IRE) | Keeneland Phoenix Stakes |
| 16 Jun 12 | Limerick (IRE) | Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden | 1/7 | Kingston Jamaica (IRE) | 2 | 22 Jun 12 | Limerick (IRE) | Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo Maiden |
| 27 May 12 | Curragh (IRE) | Big Bad Bob European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden | 3/12 | Designs On Rome (IRE) | 4 | 6 Aug 12 | Naas (IRE) | Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo Maiden |
| 27 May 12 | Curragh (IRE) | Big Bad Bob European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden | 3/12 | Theatre (IRE) | 7 | 14 Jun 12 | Leopardstown (IRE) | Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo (C&G) Maiden |
| 27 May 12 | Curragh (IRE) | Big Bad Bob European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden | 3/12 | Thunder Mountain (IRE) | 11 | 30 Jul 12 | Galway (IRE) | claregalwayhotel.ie European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden |
- 3/430 Sep 12 · Curragh (IRE)
Juddmonte Beresford Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 30 Sep 12
- Course
- Curragh (IRE)
- Race
- Juddmonte Beresford Stakes
- This horse
- 3/4
- Winner next time
- Battle Of Marengo (IRE)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 14 Apr 13
- Race won
- P.W. McGrath Memorial Ballysax Stakes
- 4/715 Sep 12 · Curragh (IRE)
Goffs Vincent O'Brien Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 15 Sep 12
- Course
- Curragh (IRE)
- Race
- Goffs Vincent O'Brien Stakes
- This horse
- 4/7
- Winner next time
- Dawn Approach (IRE)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 13 Oct 12
- At
- Newmarket
- Race won
- Dubai Dewhurst Stakes
- 4/715 Sep 12 · Curragh (IRE)
Goffs Vincent O'Brien Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 15 Sep 12
- Course
- Curragh (IRE)
- Race
- Goffs Vincent O'Brien Stakes
- This horse
- 4/7
- Winner next time
- Nevis (IRE)
- Their pos
- 6
- Won on
- 11 May 13
- Race won
- Betfred Derby Trial Stakes (Colts & Geldings)
- 1/630 Jun 12 · Curragh (IRE)
Dubai Duty Free Full Of Surprises Railway Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 30 Jun 12
- Course
- Curragh (IRE)
- Race
- Dubai Duty Free Full Of Surprises Railway Stakes
- This horse
- 1/6
- Winner next time
- Pedro The Great (USA)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 12 Aug 12
- At
- Curragh (IRE)
- Race won
- Keeneland Phoenix Stakes
- 1/716 Jun 12 · Limerick (IRE)
Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden
All fields
- Date
- 16 Jun 12
- Course
- Limerick (IRE)
- Race
- Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden
- This horse
- 1/7
- Winner next time
- Kingston Jamaica (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 22 Jun 12
- Race won
- Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo Maiden
- 3/1227 May 12 · Curragh (IRE)
Big Bad Bob European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden
All fields
- Date
- 27 May 12
- Course
- Curragh (IRE)
- Race
- Big Bad Bob European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden
- This horse
- 3/12
- Winner next time
- Designs On Rome (IRE)
- Their pos
- 4
- Won on
- 6 Aug 12
- Race won
- Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo Maiden
- 3/1227 May 12 · Curragh (IRE)
Big Bad Bob European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden
All fields
- Date
- 27 May 12
- Course
- Curragh (IRE)
- Race
- Big Bad Bob European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden
- This horse
- 3/12
- Winner next time
- Theatre (IRE)
- Their pos
- 7
- Won on
- 14 Jun 12
- Race won
- Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo (C&G) Maiden
- 3/1227 May 12 · Curragh (IRE)
Big Bad Bob European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden
All fields
- Date
- 27 May 12
- Course
- Curragh (IRE)
- Race
- Big Bad Bob European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden
- This horse
- 3/12
- Winner next time
- Thunder Mountain (IRE)
- Their pos
- 11
- Won on
- 30 Jul 12
- Race won
- claregalwayhotel.ie European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| David Wachman | 27 May 12 | 30 Sep 12 | 3/12 | 106 | 103 | 106 | 6 | 2 | 0 | 2 | £0 | €87,250 |
David Wachman
- Trainer
- David Wachman
- First run
- 27 May 12
- Last run
- 30 Sep 12
- First run for yard
- 3/12
- OR first run
- 106
- OR last run
- 103
- Best OR
- 106
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €87,250
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 6 | 2 | 0 | 2 | £0 | €87,250 | 106 | 27 May 12 | 30 Sep 12 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €87,250
- Best OR
- 106
- First run
- 27 May 12
- Last run
- 30 Sep 12
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat Turf | 6 | 2 | 0 | 2 | £0 | €87,250 |
Flat Turf
- Race type
- Flat Turf
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €87,250
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €1,225 | ||
| Good to Yielding | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €8,625 | ||
| Yielding | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €6,000 | ||
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €5,700 | ||
| Soft to Heavy | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €57,150 | ||
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €8,550 |
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,225
Good to Yielding
- Going
- Good to Yielding
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €8,625
Yielding
- Going
- Yielding
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €6,000
Soft
- Going
- Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €5,700
Soft to Heavy
- Going
- Soft to Heavy
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €57,150
Heavy
- Going
- Heavy
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €8,550
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5f to 6f | 3 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €64,075 | ||
| 7f to 1m | 3 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €23,175 |
5f to 6f
- Distance
- 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €64,075
7f to 1m
- Distance
- 7f to 1m
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €23,175
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Curragh (IRE) | 5 | 1 | 0 | 2 | £0 | €78,625 | ||
| Limerick (IRE) | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €8,625 |
Curragh (IRE)
- Course
- Curragh (IRE)
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €78,625
Limerick (IRE)
- Course
- Limerick (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €8,625
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Group 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €11,700 | ||
| Group 2 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €65,700 | ||
| Non-handicap (unclassified) | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €9,850 |
Group 1
- Class
- Group 1
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €11,700
Group 2
- Class
- Group 2
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €65,700
Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €9,850
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6 to 8 runners | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €77,475 | ||
| 2 to 5 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €8,550 | ||
| 9 to 12 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €1,225 |
6 to 8 runners
- Runners
- 6 to 8 runners
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €77,475
2 to 5 runners
- Runners
- 2 to 5 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €8,550
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,225
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| May | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €1,225 | ||
| June | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €65,775 | ||
| August | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €5,700 | ||
| September | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €14,550 |
May
- Month
- May
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,225
June
- Month
- June
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €65,775
August
- Month
- August
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €5,700
September
- Month
- September
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €14,550
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wayne Lordan | 4 | 0 | 0 | 2 | £0 | €21,475 | ||
| Billy Lee | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €65,775 |
Wayne Lordan
- Jockey
- Wayne Lordan
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €21,475
Billy Lee
- Jockey
- Billy Lee
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €65,775
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| David Wachman | 6 | 2 | 0 | 2 | £0 | €87,250 |
David Wachman
- Trainer
- David Wachman
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €87,250
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 6 | 2 | 0 | 2 | £0 | €87,250 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €87,250
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €1,225 | ||
| 8 to 14 days | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €57,150 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £0 | €17,175 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €11,700 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,225
8 to 14 days
- Days since last run
- 8 to 14 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €57,150
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €17,175
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €11,700
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchDanehill Dancer (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireDanehill (USA)
- Sire's damMira Adonde (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchWedding Morn (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireSadler's Wells (USA)
- Dam's damWedding Bouquet (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireKings Lake (USA)
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Wedding Morn (IRE) · by Sadler's Wells (USA) · 4 winners from 6 runners
- Wedding Bouquet (GB) · by Kings Lake (USA) · 2 winners from 4 runners · Listed winner
- Doff The Derby (USA) · 5 winners from 5 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Danehill Dancer (IRE) | Wedding Morn (IRE) | Sadler's Wells (USA) | colt | Flat 7.9f · NH 2m1f | Flat 9.6f · NH 2m2½f |
Danehill Dancer (IRE)
- Damsire
- Sadler's Wells (USA)
- Sex
- colt
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 7.9f · NH 2m1f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 9.6f · NH 2m2½f
Progeny of Danehill Dancer (IRE) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 12,043 | 1,305 | 3,526 | 6 | 2 | ||
| At 5f to 6f | 2,818 | 343 | 866 | 3 | 1 | ||
| On Good going | 2,859 | 282 | 815 | 2 | 1 | ||
| At 5f to 6f on Good going | 659 | 85 | 202 | 1 | 0 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 12,043
- Wins
- 1,305
- Placed
- 3,526
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 6
- This horse wins
- 2
At 5f to 6f
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 2,818
- Wins
- 343
- Placed
- 866
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 1
On Good going
- Condition
- On Good going
- Runs
- 2,859
- Wins
- 282
- Placed
- 815
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 1
At 5f to 6f on Good going
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f on Good going
- Runs
- 659
- Wins
- 85
- Placed
- 202
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Danehill Dancer (IRE) × Sadler's Wells mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 94 | 49 | 6 | 953 | 95 | 217 | £477,543 | €1,103,061 | ||
| National Hunt | 26 | 12 | 2 | 314 | 25 | 66 | £126,560 | €418,338 | ||
| All runs | 97 | 55 | 7 | 1,267 | 120 | 283 | £604,103 | €1,521,399 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 94
- Winners
- 49
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 6
- Runs
- 953
- Wins
- 95
- 2nd/3rd
- 217
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £477,543
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,103,061
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 26
- Winners
- 12
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 2
- Runs
- 314
- Wins
- 25
- 2nd/3rd
- 66
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £126,560
- Prize IRE (€)
- €418,338
All runs
- Code
- All runs
- Runners
- 97
- Winners
- 55
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 7
- Runs
- 1,267
- Wins
- 120
- 2nd/3rd
- 283
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £604,103
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,521,399
All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Best win | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Unaccompanied (IRE) | 21 | 9 | 4 | Group/Grade 1 | £21,390 | €232,570 |
| Probably (IRE) | 6 | 2 | 1 | Group/Grade 2 | £0 | €87,250 |
| Chrysanthemum (IRE) | 12 | 5 | 5 | Group/Grade 3 | £0 | €208,000 |
| Danehill Music (IRE) | 25 | 4 | 2 | Group/Grade 3 | £0 | €193,979 |
| Thorpe (IRE) | 35 | 6 | 1 | Listed | £56,188 | €0 |
| Salut D'Amour (IRE) | 9 | 2 | 1 | Listed | £65,639 | €0 |
| Wild Wind (GER) | 16 | 2 | 1 | Listed | £0 | €113,040 |
| Point North (IRE) | 64 | 10 | 0 | - | £37,921 | €0 |
| Thomas Edison (IRE) | 31 | 5 | 0 | - | £0 | €238,825 |
| Aldwick Bay (IRE) | 41 | 5 | 0 | - | £25,500 | €0 |
| Harwoods Star (IRE) | 49 | 5 | 0 | - | £26,023 | €0 |
| Spa's Dancer (IRE) | 66 | 4 | 0 | - | £67,419 | €12,350 |
Unaccompanied (IRE)
- Horse
- Unaccompanied (IRE)
- Runs
- 21
- Wins
- 9
- Black-type wins
- 4
- Best win
- Group/Grade 1
- Prize GB (£)
- £21,390
- Prize IRE (€)
- €232,570
Probably (IRE)
- Horse
- Probably (IRE)
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 1
- Best win
- Group/Grade 2
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €87,250
Chrysanthemum (IRE)
- Horse
- Chrysanthemum (IRE)
- Runs
- 12
- Wins
- 5
- Black-type wins
- 5
- Best win
- Group/Grade 3
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €208,000
Danehill Music (IRE)
- Horse
- Danehill Music (IRE)
- Runs
- 25
- Wins
- 4
- Black-type wins
- 2
- Best win
- Group/Grade 3
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €193,979
Thorpe (IRE)
- Horse
- Thorpe (IRE)
- Runs
- 35
- Wins
- 6
- Black-type wins
- 1
- Best win
- Listed
- Prize GB (£)
- £56,188
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Salut D'Amour (IRE)
- Horse
- Salut D'Amour (IRE)
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 1
- Best win
- Listed
- Prize GB (£)
- £65,639
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Wild Wind (GER)
- Horse
- Wild Wind (GER)
- Runs
- 16
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 1
- Best win
- Listed
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €113,040
Point North (IRE)
- Horse
- Point North (IRE)
- Runs
- 64
- Wins
- 10
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £37,921
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Thomas Edison (IRE)
- Horse
- Thomas Edison (IRE)
- Runs
- 31
- Wins
- 5
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €238,825
Aldwick Bay (IRE)
- Horse
- Aldwick Bay (IRE)
- Runs
- 41
- Wins
- 5
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £25,500
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Harwoods Star (IRE)
- Horse
- Harwoods Star (IRE)
- Runs
- 49
- Wins
- 5
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £26,023
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Spa's Dancer (IRE)
- Horse
- Spa's Dancer (IRE)
- Runs
- 66
- Wins
- 4
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £67,419
- Prize IRE (€)
- €12,350
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 103 | 106 | 103 | 3 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 103
- Highest OR
- 106
- Lowest OR
- 103
- Rated runs
- 3
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
| Date | Course | Code | OR | Change | Pos |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 30 Sep 12 | Curragh (IRE) | Flat | 103 | -3 | 3/4 |
| 15 Sep 12 | Curragh (IRE) | Flat | 106 | 0 | 4/7 |
| 12 Aug 12 | Curragh (IRE) | Flat | 106 | - | 4/6 |
- 3/430 Sep 12 · Curragh (IRE)
All fields
- Date
- 30 Sep 12
- Course
- Curragh (IRE)
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 103
- Change
- -3
- Pos
- 3/4
- 4/715 Sep 12 · Curragh (IRE)
All fields
- Date
- 15 Sep 12
- Course
- Curragh (IRE)
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 106
- Change
- 0
- Pos
- 4/7
- 4/612 Aug 12 · Curragh (IRE)
All fields
- Date
- 12 Aug 12
- Course
- Curragh (IRE)
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 106
- Change
- -
- Pos
- 4/6
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 103 | 103 | 0 | 106 | -3 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 103
- OR last run
- 103
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 106
- v highest
- -3
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 4 winners from 6 runners
Full siblings
- Suakin Dancer (IRE)0W · 8R
- High Holborn (IRE)0W · 10R
- Canary Wharf (IRE)2W · 10R
- Hymenaios (IRE)1W · 7R
Half siblings
By Kingman (GB)
- Packing Joy (GB)1W · 4R
Female line
- 1Wedding Morn (IRE) · by Sadler's Wells (USA)
- 2Wedding Bouquet (GB) · by Kings Lake (USA)
- 3Doff The Derby (USA)
Notable relatives
Great-uncle (out of 3rd dam)
- Generous (IRE)6W · 9R · 4 G1
Great-aunt (out of 3rd dam)
- Imagine (IRE)4W · 10R · 2 G1
- Strawberry Roan (IRE)3W · 10R · 2 black-type
First cousin once removed
- Horatio Nelson (IRE)3W · 6R · 2 black-type
- Kitty Matcham (IRE)2W · 9R · 1 black-type
- Hawaafez (GB)4W · 11R · 2 black-type
- Viscount Nelson (USA)3W · 11R · 2 black-type
First cousin twice removed
- Rogue Millennium (IRE)3W · 15R · 2 black-type
- Naomi Lapaglia (GB)3W · 16R · 1 black-type
Second cousin
- Prime Art (IRE)2W · 7R · 1 black-type
2nd dam
- Wedding Bouquet (GB)1W · 3R · 1 black-type
Uncle (out of 2nd dam)
- Irish Legend I (IRE)7W · 58R · 1 black-type
In brief
When was Probably foaled?
Probably (IRE) was foaled in 2010.
Who are the sire and dam of Probably?
Probably (IRE) is by Danehill Dancer (IRE) out of Wedding Morn (IRE), a daughter of Sadler's Wells (USA).
Who trained Probably?
Probably (IRE) was trained by David Wachman and owned by Michael Tabor & Mrs John Magnier & Derrick Smith at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Probably's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Probably (IRE) won 2 of 6 races (33%). Runs abroad (for example in France, Dubai or the USA) are not included.
What is Probably's biggest win?
Probably (IRE)'s biggest win in Britain or Ireland came in the Dubai Duty Free Full Of Surprises Railway Stakes (Group 2) at Curragh (IRE) on 30 June 2012.
Has Probably ever been beaten?
Probably (IRE) was beaten 4 times in 6 runs in Britain and Ireland, the first time on 27 May 2012 at Curragh (IRE) (3rd of 12).
What was Probably's official rating?
Probably (IRE) was last officially rated 103 on the Flat (career high 106).
Is Probably still racing?
Probably (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 30 September 2012 at Curragh (IRE) in the Juddmonte Beresford Stakes, finishing 3rd of 4, and has not run there since.
Is Probably related to any top horses?
Probably (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Generous (IRE) (great-uncle, Group 1 winner), Imagine (IRE) (great-aunt, Group 1 winner) and Horatio Nelson (IRE) (first cousin once removed, Group 2 winner), from the Doff The Derby (USA) family.
What is Probably's record at Curragh (IRE)?
Probably (IRE) ran most often at Curragh (IRE), with 1 win from 5 runs there.
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