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Horse profile

Lesssaidthebetter (IRE)

Montelimar (USA) × Urdite (FR) (Concertino)
Sex
gelding
Foaled
1997

See also: Lesssaidthebetter (GB) · P J Rothwell · 35 runs · 0 wins

Highest OR
104
Record (GB & IRE)
0 wins from 12 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
€4,820 IRE
Last official rating
99 (Jumps)
Last run (GB & IRE)
21 Apr 2004, Worcester (PU/15)
Last win (GB & IRE)
Never won
Recent form
866311112313BDPUPU

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtORWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
21 Apr 04WorcesterPU/1516/1-L CooperJonjo O'NeillSpring Racing At Worcester Novices' Handicap Chase Class EClass 4Chase2m7½fGood to Soft11-999Ballyvaddy (IRE)£4,5631281/12
15 Dec 03PlumptonPU/1112/1-Seamus DurackJonjo O'NeillService Direct Handicap Chase Class EClass 4Chase3m1½fGood to Soft11-7104Cresswell Quay (GB)£4,0813241/10
25 Jan 03Naas (IRE)BD/258/1-Mr P RocheC RocheNewbridge I.N.H. Flat RaceNon-handicap (unclassified)NH Flat2m3fSoft11-7-Willie John Daly (IRE)€6,210131/22
12 Jan 03Leopardstown (IRE)13/2210/124Mark WalshC RochePertemps Handicap HurdleHandicap (unclassified)Hurdle3mSoft9-0103Keepatem (IRE)€26,000352/20
8 Dec 02Punchestown (IRE)3/179/2F2¼Paul MoloneyC RocheTote Ireland Handicap HurdleHandicap (unclassified)Hurdle2m4fSoft to Heavy9-1399Aimees Mark (IRE)€19,550241/15
14 Nov 02Clonmel (IRE)2/2010/11½Paul MoloneyC RocheCahir Handicap HurdleHandicap (unclassified)Hurdle2m4fSoft10-1295Horner Rocks (IRE)€6,2102421/17
17 Mar 02Punchestown (IRE)11/1512/1distPaul MoloneyC RocheApril Festival Handicap HurdleHandicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mSoft10-594Some Buzz (IRE)€10,350280/14
17 Feb 02Navan (IRE)11/126/1distPaul MoloneyC RocheFinnegan & McGovern Interiors Handicap HurdleHandicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mSoft10-596Quality First (IRE)€10,350221/11
26 Jan 02Naas (IRE)3/257/15Alan CroweC RocheNewbridge I.N.H. Flat RaceNon-handicap (unclassified)NH Flat2m3fSoft to Heavy11-7-Mr Anvil (IRE)€6,210381/22
19 Dec 01Punchestown (IRE)6/235/215Paul MoloneyC RocheBallymore Maiden Hurdle (Div II)Non-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mYielding to Soft11-4-Native View (IRE)€8,848250/22
24 Nov 01Naas (IRE)6/2014/112½Mr B M JonesC RocheArdmore Blood Booster HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mYielding10-9-Goss (GB)€11,502421/19
13 Oct 01Gowran Park (IRE)8/2020/1distMr B M JonesC RocheConcrete Pumping Ltd Maiden Hurdle (Div II)Non-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2m1fGood10-11-Hill Port (IRE)€9,290-1/19
  • PU/1521 Apr 04 · Worcester16/1

    Spring Racing At Worcester Novices' Handicap Chase Class E

    Class 42m7½fGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    21 Apr 04
    Course
    Worcester
    Pos
    PU/15
    SP
    16/1
    Btn
    -
    Jockey
    L Cooper
    Race
    Spring Racing At Worcester Novices' Handicap Chase Class E
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m7½f
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    11-9
    OR
    99
    Winner / 2nd
    Ballyvaddy (IRE)
    Winner prize
    £4,563
    Days
    128
    Future form
    1/12
  • PU/1115 Dec 03 · Plumpton12/1

    Service Direct Handicap Chase Class E

    Class 43m1½fGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    15 Dec 03
    Course
    Plumpton
    Pos
    PU/11
    SP
    12/1
    Btn
    -
    Race
    Service Direct Handicap Chase Class E
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    3m1½f
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    11-7
    OR
    104
    Winner prize
    £4,081
    Days
    324
    Future form
    1/10
  • BD/2525 Jan 03 · Naas (IRE)8/1

    Newbridge I.N.H. Flat Race

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m3fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    25 Jan 03
    Pos
    BD/25
    SP
    8/1
    Btn
    -
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    Newbridge I.N.H. Flat Race
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m3f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    11-7
    OR
    -
    Winner prize
    €6,210
    Days
    13
    Future form
    1/22
  • 13/2212 Jan 03 · Leopardstown (IRE)10/1

    Pertemps Handicap Hurdle

    Handicap (unclassified)3mSoft

    All fields
    Date
    12 Jan 03
    Pos
    13/22
    SP
    10/1
    Btn
    24
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    Pertemps Handicap Hurdle
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    3m
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    9-0
    OR
    103
    Winner / 2nd
    Keepatem (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €26,000
    Days
    35
    Future form
    2/20
  • 3/178 Dec 02 · Punchestown (IRE)9/2F

    Tote Ireland Handicap Hurdle

    Handicap (unclassified)2m4fSoft to Heavy

    All fields
    Date
    8 Dec 02
    Pos
    3/17
    SP
    9/2F
    Btn
    2¼
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    Tote Ireland Handicap Hurdle
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Soft to Heavy
    Wgt
    9-13
    OR
    99
    Winner / 2nd
    Aimees Mark (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €19,550
    Days
    24
    Future form
    1/15
  • 2/2014 Nov 02 · Clonmel (IRE)10/1

    Cahir Handicap Hurdle

    Handicap (unclassified)2m4fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    14 Nov 02
    Pos
    2/20
    SP
    10/1
    Btn
    1½
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    Cahir Handicap Hurdle
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    10-12
    OR
    95
    Winner / 2nd
    Horner Rocks (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €6,210
    Days
    242
    Future form
    1/17
  • 11/1517 Mar 02 · Punchestown (IRE)12/1

    April Festival Handicap Hurdle

    Handicap (unclassified)2mSoft

    All fields
    Date
    17 Mar 02
    Pos
    11/15
    SP
    12/1
    Btn
    dist
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    April Festival Handicap Hurdle
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    10-5
    OR
    94
    Winner / 2nd
    Some Buzz (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €10,350
    Days
    28
    Future form
    0/14
  • 11/1217 Feb 02 · Navan (IRE)6/1

    Finnegan & McGovern Interiors Handicap Hurdle

    Handicap (unclassified)2mSoft

    All fields
    Date
    17 Feb 02
    Pos
    11/12
    SP
    6/1
    Btn
    dist
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    Finnegan & McGovern Interiors Handicap Hurdle
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    10-5
    OR
    96
    Winner prize
    €10,350
    Days
    22
    Future form
    1/11
  • 3/2526 Jan 02 · Naas (IRE)7/1

    Newbridge I.N.H. Flat Race

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m3fSoft to Heavy

    All fields
    Date
    26 Jan 02
    Pos
    3/25
    SP
    7/1
    Btn
    5
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    Newbridge I.N.H. Flat Race
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m3f
    Going
    Soft to Heavy
    Wgt
    11-7
    OR
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Mr Anvil (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €6,210
    Days
    38
    Future form
    1/22
  • 6/2319 Dec 01 · Punchestown (IRE)5/2

    Ballymore Maiden Hurdle (Div II)

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2mYielding to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    19 Dec 01
    Pos
    6/23
    SP
    5/2
    Btn
    15
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    Ballymore Maiden Hurdle (Div II)
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Yielding to Soft
    Wgt
    11-4
    OR
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Native View (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €8,848
    Days
    25
    Future form
    0/22
  • 6/2024 Nov 01 · Naas (IRE)14/1

    Ardmore Blood Booster Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2mYielding

    All fields
    Date
    24 Nov 01
    Pos
    6/20
    SP
    14/1
    Btn
    12½
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    Ardmore Blood Booster Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Yielding
    Wgt
    10-9
    OR
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Goss (GB)
    Winner prize
    €11,502
    Days
    42
    Future form
    1/19
  • 8/2013 Oct 01 · Gowran Park (IRE)20/1

    Concrete Pumping Ltd Maiden Hurdle (Div II)

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m1fGood

    All fields
    Date
    13 Oct 01
    Pos
    8/20
    SP
    20/1
    Btn
    dist
    Trainer
    C Roche
    Race
    Concrete Pumping Ltd Maiden Hurdle (Div II)
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m1f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    10-11
    OR
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Hill Port (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €9,290
    Days
    -
    Future form
    1/19

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
21 Apr 04WorcesterSpring Racing At Worcester Novices' Handicap Chase Class EPU/15Ballyvaddy (IRE)116 May 04FakenhamGurkha Welfare Trust Handicap Chase Class D
15 Dec 03PlumptonService Direct Handicap Chase Class EPU/11Basil (GB)-4 Jan 04PlumptonTote Bookmakers Handicap Chase Class E
25 Jan 03Naas (IRE)Newbridge I.N.H. Flat RaceBD/25Mitchelstown (IRE)215 Feb 03Gowran Park (IRE)betfair.com I.N.H. Flat Race
12 Jan 03Leopardstown (IRE)Pertemps Handicap Hurdle13/22Marcus Du Berlais (FR)1025 Jan 03Naas (IRE)Powers Gold Label Championship Handicap Hurdle
12 Jan 03Leopardstown (IRE)Pertemps Handicap Hurdle13/22Back On Top I (IRE)1615 Feb 03Gowran Park (IRE)Thomas M.Byrne & Sons Auctioneers (Carlow) Handicap Hurdle
8 Dec 02Punchestown (IRE)Tote Ireland Handicap Hurdle3/17Aimees Mark (IRE)131 Dec 02Punchestown (IRE)Kilteel Handicap Hurdle
14 Nov 02Clonmel (IRE)Cahir Handicap Hurdle2/20Strike Alliance I (IRE)423 Jul 03Naas (IRE)C.B.A. Insurance Handicap Hurdle
17 Feb 02Navan (IRE)Finnegan & McGovern Interiors Handicap Hurdle11/12Dutsdale Dancer (IRE)323 Feb 02Fairyhouse (IRE)Sutherland River Handicap Hurdle
26 Jan 02Naas (IRE)Newbridge I.N.H. Flat Race3/25Torose (IRE)1121 Feb 02Clonmel (IRE)Kilsheelan I.N.H. Flat Race
24 Nov 01Naas (IRE)Ardmore Blood Booster Hurdle6/20In The Forge (GB)422 Dec 01Navan (IRE)Carol Maiden Hurdle
13 Oct 01Gowran Park (IRE)Concrete Pumping Ltd Maiden Hurdle (Div II)8/20Claude Greengrass (GB)1631 Oct 01Tipperary (IRE)Golden Handicap (Div II)

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerMoved fromFirst runLast runFirst run for yardOR first runOR last runBest ORRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Jonjo O'NeillC Roche15 Dec 0321 Apr 04PU/111049910420000.0%0.0%£0€0
C Roche-13 Oct 0125 Jan 038/2096103103100120.0%30.0%£0€4,820
Jonjo O'Neill
Moved from
C Roche
First run
15 Dec 03
Last run
21 Apr 04
First run for yard
PU/11
OR first run
104
OR last run
99
Best OR
104
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
C Roche
Trainer
C Roche
First run
13 Oct 01
Last run
25 Jan 03
First run for yard
8/20
OR first run
96
OR last run
103
Best OR
103
Runs
10
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
30.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€4,820

Spells with each trainer in race order, latest first (a horse that returns to a trainer shows a new spell). From British and Irish runs since 1990.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)Best ORFirst runLast run
National Hunt120120.0%25.0%£0€4,82010413 Oct 0121 Apr 04
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
12
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€4,820
Best OR
104
First run
13 Oct 01
Last run
21 Apr 04

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Hurdle80110.0%25.0%£0€4,190
Chase20000.0%0.0%£0€0
NH Flat20010.0%50.0%£0€630
Hurdle
Race type
Hurdle
Runs
8
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€4,190
Chase
Race type
Chase
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
NH Flat
Race type
NH Flat
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€630

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Good10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Good to Soft20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Yielding10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Yielding to Soft10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Soft50100.0%20.0%£0€1,440
Soft to Heavy20020.0%100.0%£0€3,380
Good
Going
Good
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good to Soft
Going
Good to Soft
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Yielding
Going
Yielding
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Yielding to Soft
Going
Yielding to Soft
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Soft
Going
Soft
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
20.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€1,440
Soft to Heavy
Going
Soft to Heavy
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€3,380

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
2m to 2m1f50000.0%0.0%£0€0
2m2f to 2m5f40120.0%75.0%£0€4,820
2m6f to 3m1f20000.0%0.0%£0€0
3m2f and over10000.0%0.0%£0€0
2m to 2m1f
Distance
2m to 2m1f
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
2m2f to 2m5f
Distance
2m2f to 2m5f
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
75.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€4,820
2m6f to 3m1f
Distance
2m6f to 3m1f
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
3m2f and over
Distance
3m2f and over
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Naas (IRE)30010.0%33.3%£0€630
Punchestown (IRE)30010.0%33.3%£0€2,750
Clonmel (IRE)10100.0%100.0%£0€1,440
Gowran Park (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Leopardstown (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Navan (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Plumpton10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Worcester10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Naas (IRE)
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€630
Punchestown (IRE)
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€2,750
Clonmel (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€1,440
Gowran Park (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Leopardstown (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Navan (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Plumpton
Course
Plumpton
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Worcester
Course
Worcester
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Class 420000.0%0.0%£0€0
Handicap (unclassified)50110.0%40.0%£0€4,190
Non-handicap (unclassified)50010.0%20.0%£0€630
Class 4
Class
Class 4
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Handicap (unclassified)
Class
Handicap (unclassified)
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
40.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€4,190
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Class
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
20.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€630

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
9 to 12 runners20000.0%0.0%£0€0
13 to 16 runners20000.0%0.0%£0€0
17+ runners80120.0%37.5%£0€4,820
9 to 12 runners
Runners
9 to 12 runners
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
13 to 16 runners
Runners
13 to 16 runners
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
17+ runners
Runners
17+ runners
Runs
8
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
37.5%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€4,820

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
January30010.0%33.3%£0€630
February10000.0%0.0%£0€0
March10000.0%0.0%£0€0
April10000.0%0.0%£0€0
October10000.0%0.0%£0€0
November20100.0%50.0%£0€1,440
December30010.0%33.3%£0€2,750
January
Month
January
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€630
February
Month
February
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
March
Month
March
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
April
Month
April
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
October
Month
October
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
November
Month
November
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€1,440
December
Month
December
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€2,750

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Paul Moloney50110.0%40.0%£0€4,190
Mr B M Jones20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Alan Crowe10010.0%100.0%£0€630
L Cooper10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Mark Walsh10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Mr P Roche10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Seamus Durack10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Paul Moloney
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
40.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€4,190
Mr B M Jones
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Alan Crowe
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€630
L Cooper
Jockey
L Cooper
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Mark Walsh
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Mr P Roche
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Seamus Durack
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
C Roche100120.0%30.0%£0€4,820
Jonjo O'Neill20000.0%0.0%£0€0
C Roche
Trainer
C Roche
Runs
10
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
30.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€4,820
Jonjo O'Neill
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear120120.0%25.0%£0€4,820
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
12
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€4,820

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10000.0%0.0%£0€0
8 to 14 days10000.0%0.0%£0€0
15 to 30 days40010.0%25.0%£0€2,750
31 to 60 days30010.0%33.3%£0€630
121 to 365 days30100.0%33.3%£0€1,440
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
8 to 14 days
Days since last run
8 to 14 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
15 to 30 days
Days since last run
15 to 30 days
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€2,750
31 to 60 days
Days since last run
31 to 60 days
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€630
121 to 365 days
Days since last run
121 to 365 days
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€1,440

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchMontelimar (USA)

Parent · 1

  1. SireMontelimar (USA)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchUrdite (FR)

Parent · 1

  1. DamUrdite (FR)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireConcertino
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Montelimar (USA)
Urdite (FR)
Not traced
Not traced
Concertino
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseLesssaidthebetter (IRE)
Sexgelding
Foaled1997
SireMontelimar (USA)
DamUrdite (FR)
DamsireConcertino
Dam's produce1 winners from 6 runners
Notable siblingRostino (IRE)

Female line

  1. Urdite (FR) · 1 winners from 6 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Montelimar (USA)Urdite (FR)ConcertinogeldingFlat 10.9f · NH 2m4fNH 2m2½f
Montelimar (USA)
Damsire
Concertino
Sex
gelding
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 10.9f · NH 2m4f
Damsire's avg winning distance
NH 2m2½f

Progeny of Montelimar (USA) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs5,1925301,47210.2%28.4%120
At 2m2f to 2m5f1,80019850811.0%28.2%40
On Soft going1,1011083069.8%27.8%70
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Soft going3924110210.5%26.0%40
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
5,192
Wins
530
Placed
1,472
Win %
10.2%
Place %
28.4%
This horse runs
12
This horse wins
0
At 2m2f to 2m5f
Condition
At 2m2f to 2m5f
Runs
1,800
Wins
198
Placed
508
Win %
11.0%
Place %
28.2%
This horse runs
4
This horse wins
0
On Soft going
Condition
On Soft going
Runs
1,101
Wins
108
Placed
306
Win %
9.8%
Place %
27.8%
This horse runs
7
This horse wins
0
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Soft going
Condition
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Soft going
Runs
392
Wins
41
Placed
102
Win %
10.5%
Place %
26.0%
This horse runs
4
This horse wins
0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Montelimar (USA) × Concertino mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt100.0%012030.0%£0€4,820
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
1
Winners
0
Winners %
0.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
12
Wins
0
2nd/3rd
3
Win %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€4,820

Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Lesssaidthebetter (IRE)1200£0€4,820
Lesssaidthebetter (IRE)
Runs
12
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€4,820

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Ratings

Official ratings

CodeCurrent ORHighest ORLowest ORRated runs
National Hunt99104947
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
99
Highest OR
104
Lowest OR
94
Rated runs
7

Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.

Official rating by run

DateCourseCodeORChangePos
21 Apr 04WorcesterNH99-5PU/15
15 Dec 03PlumptonNH1041PU/11
12 Jan 03Leopardstown (IRE)NH103413/22
8 Dec 02Punchestown (IRE)NH9943/17
14 Nov 02Clonmel (IRE)NH9512/20
17 Mar 02Punchestown (IRE)NH94-211/15
17 Feb 02Navan (IRE)NH96-11/12

Current mark v winning marks

CodeCurrent OROR last runChangeHighest ORv highest
National Hunt99990104-5
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
99
OR last run
99
Change
0
Highest OR
104
v highest
-5

Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.

Family

Dam summary

Urdite (FR)

G1 winners
0
Produce
1 winners from 6 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Montelimar (USA) out of Urdite (FR) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Rose Laurel (IRE)

By Glacial Storm (USA)

By Riverhead (USA)

By Alphabatim (USA)

By Carroll House (IRE)

Female line

  1. 1Urdite (FR)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

View full Urdite family

In brief

When was Lesssaidthebetter foaled?

Lesssaidthebetter (IRE) was foaled in 1997.

Who are the sire and dam of Lesssaidthebetter?

Lesssaidthebetter (IRE) is by Montelimar (USA) out of Urdite (FR), a daughter of Concertino.

Who trained Lesssaidthebetter?

Lesssaidthebetter (IRE) was trained by Jonjo O'Neill and owned by John P McManus at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland, having also run for C Roche.

What is Lesssaidthebetter's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Lesssaidthebetter (IRE) ran 12 times without winning.

What was Lesssaidthebetter's official rating?

Lesssaidthebetter (IRE) was last officially rated 99 over jumps (career high 104).

Is Lesssaidthebetter still racing?

Lesssaidthebetter (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 21 April 2004 at Worcester in the Spring Racing At Worcester Novices' Handicap Chase Class E (result: pulled up, 15 ran), and has not run there since.

What is Lesssaidthebetter's record at Naas (IRE)?

Lesssaidthebetter (IRE) ran most often at Naas (IRE), with no wins from 3 runs there.

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