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Glacial Storm (USA) × Drachma (GB) (Netherkelly (GB))
Sex
gelding
Foaled
1998
Highest OR
80
Record (GB & IRE)
0 wins from 9 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
€2,783 IRE
Last official rating
79 (Jumps)
Last run (GB & IRE)
14 Mar 2004, Cork (IRE) (F/24)
Last win (GB & IRE)
Never won
Recent form
1171112312217F

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtORHeadgearWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
14 Mar 04Cork (IRE)F/2414/1-Daniel HowardPaul John GilliganSunset Beach Club Handicap HurdleHandicap (unclassified)Hurdle3mSoft9-1379bBeau Colina (IRE)€7,601270/20
16 Feb 04Navan (IRE)17/1710/1distDaniel HowardPaul John GilliganBambury Bookmakers Handicap HurdleHandicap (unclassified)Hurdle2m4fSoft10-180bWirey (IRE)€6,91093/16
7 Feb 04Naas (IRE)2/1014/19Daniel HowardPaul John GilliganGo Racing In Kildare Handicap HurdleHandicap (unclassified)Hurdle2m3fSoft9-1078bSupergood (IRE)€8,63820/8
5 Feb 04Clonmel (IRE)12/188/1distDaniel HowardPaul John GilliganGerry Chawke Handicap Hurdle (Div I)Handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mSoft to Heavy10-1278-Pippin's Ford (IRE)€6,91091/15
27 Jan 04Tramore (IRE)3/1312/114½Miss L A HouriganPaul John GilliganSaltan Properties (Lady Riders) Handicap HurdleHandicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mHeavy10-178-Ask The Umpire (IRE)€7,590323/11
26 Dec 03Limerick (IRE)12/1625/1distDaniel HowardPaul John GilliganPricewaterhouseCoopers Maiden HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2m4fSoft11-4--Away Home (IRE)€8,625331/15
23 Nov 03Gowran Park (IRE)11/20100/1distSean McDermottPaul John GilliganDungarvan HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mYielding11-2--Adarma (IRE)€9,660221/19
1 Nov 03Kelso7/1133/1distBrian HardingPaul John GilliganLizzy of Oz 40th Birthday "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle Class EClass 4Hurdle2m6½fGood10-13--Monet's Garden (IRE)£2,7021003/9
24 Jul 03Limerick (IRE)11/1512/1distMr A FitzgeraldPaul John GilliganAnglo-Irish Bank Flat RaceNon-handicap (unclassified)NH Flat2m4fGood11-13--Ballytobin I (IRE)€7,245-1/12
  • F/2414 Mar 04 · Cork (IRE)14/1

    Sunset Beach Club Handicap Hurdle

    Handicap (unclassified)3mSoft

    All fields
    Date
    14 Mar 04
    Pos
    F/24
    SP
    14/1
    Btn
    -
    Race
    Sunset Beach Club Handicap Hurdle
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    3m
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    9-13
    OR
    79
    Headgear
    b
    Winner / 2nd
    Beau Colina (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €7,601
    Days
    27
    Future form
    0/20
  • 17/1716 Feb 04 · Navan (IRE)10/1

    Bambury Bookmakers Handicap Hurdle

    Handicap (unclassified)2m4fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    16 Feb 04
    Pos
    17/17
    SP
    10/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Bambury Bookmakers Handicap Hurdle
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    10-1
    OR
    80
    Headgear
    b
    Winner / 2nd
    Wirey (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €6,910
    Days
    9
    Future form
    3/16
  • 2/107 Feb 04 · Naas (IRE)14/1

    Go Racing In Kildare Handicap Hurdle

    Handicap (unclassified)2m3fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    7 Feb 04
    Pos
    2/10
    SP
    14/1
    Btn
    9
    Race
    Go Racing In Kildare Handicap Hurdle
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m3f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    9-10
    OR
    78
    Headgear
    b
    Winner / 2nd
    Supergood (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €8,638
    Days
    2
    Future form
    0/8
  • 12/185 Feb 04 · Clonmel (IRE)8/1

    Gerry Chawke Handicap Hurdle (Div I)

    Handicap (unclassified)2mSoft to Heavy

    All fields
    Date
    5 Feb 04
    Pos
    12/18
    SP
    8/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Gerry Chawke Handicap Hurdle (Div I)
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Soft to Heavy
    Wgt
    10-12
    OR
    78
    Headgear
    -
    Winner prize
    €6,910
    Days
    9
    Future form
    1/15
  • 3/1327 Jan 04 · Tramore (IRE)12/1

    Saltan Properties (Lady Riders) Handicap Hurdle

    Handicap (unclassified)2mHeavy

    All fields
    Date
    27 Jan 04
    Pos
    3/13
    SP
    12/1
    Btn
    14½
    Race
    Saltan Properties (Lady Riders) Handicap Hurdle
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Heavy
    Wgt
    10-1
    OR
    78
    Headgear
    -
    Winner prize
    €7,590
    Days
    32
    Future form
    3/11
  • 12/1626 Dec 03 · Limerick (IRE)25/1

    PricewaterhouseCoopers Maiden Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m4fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    26 Dec 03
    Pos
    12/16
    SP
    25/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    PricewaterhouseCoopers Maiden Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    11-4
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Away Home (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €8,625
    Days
    33
    Future form
    1/15
  • 11/2023 Nov 03 · Gowran Park (IRE)100/1

    Dungarvan Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2mYielding

    All fields
    Date
    23 Nov 03
    Pos
    11/20
    SP
    100/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Dungarvan Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Yielding
    Wgt
    11-2
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Adarma (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €9,660
    Days
    22
    Future form
    1/19
  • 7/111 Nov 03 · Kelso33/1

    Lizzy of Oz 40th Birthday "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle Class E

    Class 42m6½fGood

    All fields
    Date
    1 Nov 03
    Course
    Kelso
    Pos
    7/11
    SP
    33/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Lizzy of Oz 40th Birthday "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle Class E
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m6½f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    10-13
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner prize
    £2,702
    Days
    100
    Future form
    3/9
  • 11/1524 Jul 03 · Limerick (IRE)12/1

    Anglo-Irish Bank Flat Race

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m4fGood

    All fields
    Date
    24 Jul 03
    Pos
    11/15
    SP
    12/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Anglo-Irish Bank Flat Race
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    11-13
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Ballytobin I (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €7,245
    Days
    -
    Future form
    1/12

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
16 Feb 04Navan (IRE)Bambury Bookmakers Handicap Hurdle17/17Sandpiper Bay (IRE)46 Mar 04Navan (IRE)Nobber Handicap Hurdle
16 Feb 04Navan (IRE)Bambury Bookmakers Handicap Hurdle17/17Shandarr (IRE)526 Feb 04Limerick (IRE)Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle
16 Feb 04Navan (IRE)Bambury Bookmakers Handicap Hurdle17/17Clochmhaoil Castle (IRE)133 May 04Down Royal (IRE)Pat O'Hare Bookmakers Handicap Hurdle
5 Feb 04Clonmel (IRE)Gerry Chawke Handicap Hurdle (Div I)12/18Danse Macabre (IRE)718 Feb 04Down Royal (IRE)Bank Of Ireland Commerical Finance Handicap Hurdle
27 Jan 04Tramore (IRE)Saltan Properties (Lady Riders) Handicap Hurdle3/13Pippin's Ford (IRE)25 Feb 04Clonmel (IRE)Gerry Chawke Handicap Hurdle (Div I)
27 Jan 04Tramore (IRE)Saltan Properties (Lady Riders) Handicap Hurdle3/13Sweetie (IRE)45 Feb 04Clonmel (IRE)Gerry Chawke Handicap Hurdle (Div II)
27 Jan 04Tramore (IRE)Saltan Properties (Lady Riders) Handicap Hurdle3/13Regello (IRE)914 Mar 04Punchestown (IRE)Captain Michael O'Farrell Memorial Handicap Hurdle
26 Dec 03Limerick (IRE)PricewaterhouseCoopers Maiden Hurdle12/16Pearly Jack (GB)25 Feb 04Clonmel (IRE)Jim Strang & Sons Peugeot Maiden Hurdle
23 Nov 03Gowran Park (IRE)Dungarvan Hurdle11/20Stacumny Bridge (IRE)221 Dec 03Thurles (IRE)Horse And Jockey Hotel Hurdle
1 Nov 03KelsoLizzy of Oz 40th Birthday "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle Class E7/11Monet's Garden (IRE)111 Mar 04CarlisleJohn Baker Happy Birthday Novices' Hurdle Class E
1 Nov 03KelsoLizzy of Oz 40th Birthday "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle Class E7/11Sands Rising (GB)227 Nov 03CarlisleEuropean Breeders Fund "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle Class E
1 Nov 03KelsoLizzy of Oz 40th Birthday "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle Class E7/11Red Square Lad (IRE)811 Mar 05LeicesterSherwood Rangers Yeomanry Maiden Hunters' Chase Class H
24 Jul 03Limerick (IRE)Anglo-Irish Bank Flat Race11/15Innisfree I (IRE)611 Aug 03Cork (IRE)Conna (Pro-Am) I.N.H. Flat Race
  • 17/1716 Feb 04 · Navan (IRE)

    Bambury Bookmakers Handicap Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    16 Feb 04
    Race
    Bambury Bookmakers Handicap Hurdle
    This horse
    17/17
    Winner next time
    Sandpiper Bay (IRE)
    Their pos
    4
    Won on
    6 Mar 04
    Race won
    Nobber Handicap Hurdle
  • 17/1716 Feb 04 · Navan (IRE)

    Bambury Bookmakers Handicap Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    16 Feb 04
    Race
    Bambury Bookmakers Handicap Hurdle
    This horse
    17/17
    Winner next time
    Shandarr (IRE)
    Their pos
    5
    Won on
    26 Feb 04
    Race won
    Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle
  • 17/1716 Feb 04 · Navan (IRE)

    Bambury Bookmakers Handicap Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    16 Feb 04
    Race
    Bambury Bookmakers Handicap Hurdle
    This horse
    17/17
    Winner next time
    Clochmhaoil Castle (IRE)
    Their pos
    13
    Won on
    3 May 04
    Race won
    Pat O'Hare Bookmakers Handicap Hurdle
  • 12/185 Feb 04 · Clonmel (IRE)

    Gerry Chawke Handicap Hurdle (Div I)

    All fields
    Date
    5 Feb 04
    Race
    Gerry Chawke Handicap Hurdle (Div I)
    This horse
    12/18
    Winner next time
    Danse Macabre (IRE)
    Their pos
    7
    Won on
    18 Feb 04
    Race won
    Bank Of Ireland Commerical Finance Handicap Hurdle
  • 3/1327 Jan 04 · Tramore (IRE)

    Saltan Properties (Lady Riders) Handicap Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    27 Jan 04
    Race
    Saltan Properties (Lady Riders) Handicap Hurdle
    This horse
    3/13
    Winner next time
    Pippin's Ford (IRE)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    5 Feb 04
    Race won
    Gerry Chawke Handicap Hurdle (Div I)
  • 3/1327 Jan 04 · Tramore (IRE)

    Saltan Properties (Lady Riders) Handicap Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    27 Jan 04
    Race
    Saltan Properties (Lady Riders) Handicap Hurdle
    This horse
    3/13
    Winner next time
    Sweetie (IRE)
    Their pos
    4
    Won on
    5 Feb 04
    Race won
    Gerry Chawke Handicap Hurdle (Div II)
  • 3/1327 Jan 04 · Tramore (IRE)

    Saltan Properties (Lady Riders) Handicap Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    27 Jan 04
    Race
    Saltan Properties (Lady Riders) Handicap Hurdle
    This horse
    3/13
    Winner next time
    Regello (IRE)
    Their pos
    9
    Won on
    14 Mar 04
    Race won
    Captain Michael O'Farrell Memorial Handicap Hurdle
  • 12/1626 Dec 03 · Limerick (IRE)

    PricewaterhouseCoopers Maiden Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    26 Dec 03
    Race
    PricewaterhouseCoopers Maiden Hurdle
    This horse
    12/16
    Winner next time
    Pearly Jack (GB)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    5 Feb 04
    Race won
    Jim Strang & Sons Peugeot Maiden Hurdle
  • 11/2023 Nov 03 · Gowran Park (IRE)

    Dungarvan Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    23 Nov 03
    Race
    Dungarvan Hurdle
    This horse
    11/20
    Winner next time
    Stacumny Bridge (IRE)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    21 Dec 03
    Race won
    Horse And Jockey Hotel Hurdle
  • 7/111 Nov 03 · Kelso

    Lizzy of Oz 40th Birthday "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle Class E

    All fields
    Date
    1 Nov 03
    Course
    Kelso
    Race
    Lizzy of Oz 40th Birthday "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle Class E
    This horse
    7/11
    Winner next time
    Monet's Garden (IRE)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    11 Mar 04
    Race won
    John Baker Happy Birthday Novices' Hurdle Class E
  • 7/111 Nov 03 · Kelso

    Lizzy of Oz 40th Birthday "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle Class E

    All fields
    Date
    1 Nov 03
    Course
    Kelso
    Race
    Lizzy of Oz 40th Birthday "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle Class E
    This horse
    7/11
    Winner next time
    Sands Rising (GB)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    27 Nov 03
    Race won
    European Breeders Fund "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle Class E
  • 7/111 Nov 03 · Kelso

    Lizzy of Oz 40th Birthday "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle Class E

    All fields
    Date
    1 Nov 03
    Course
    Kelso
    Race
    Lizzy of Oz 40th Birthday "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle Class E
    This horse
    7/11
    Winner next time
    Red Square Lad (IRE)
    Their pos
    8
    Won on
    11 Mar 05
    Race won
    Sherwood Rangers Yeomanry Maiden Hunters' Chase Class H
  • 11/1524 Jul 03 · Limerick (IRE)

    Anglo-Irish Bank Flat Race

    All fields
    Date
    24 Jul 03
    Race
    Anglo-Irish Bank Flat Race
    This horse
    11/15
    Winner next time
    Innisfree I (IRE)
    Their pos
    6
    Won on
    11 Aug 03
    Race won
    Conna (Pro-Am) I.N.H. Flat Race

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardOR first runOR last runBest ORRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Paul John Gilligan24 Jul 0314 Mar 0411/1578798090110.0%22.2%£0€2,783
Paul John Gilligan
First run
24 Jul 03
Last run
14 Mar 04
First run for yard
11/15
OR first run
78
OR last run
79
Best OR
80
Runs
9
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
22.2%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€2,783

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)Best ORFirst runLast run
National Hunt90110.0%22.2%£0€2,7838024 Jul 0314 Mar 04
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
9
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
22.2%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€2,783
Best OR
80
First run
24 Jul 03
Last run
14 Mar 04

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Hurdle80110.0%25.0%£0€2,783
NH Flat10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Hurdle
Race type
Hurdle
Runs
8
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€2,783
NH Flat
Race type
NH Flat
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Good20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Yielding10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Soft40100.0%25.0%£0€2,013
Soft to Heavy10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Heavy10010.0%100.0%£0€770
Good
Going
Good
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Yielding
Going
Yielding
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Soft
Going
Soft
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€2,013
Soft to Heavy
Going
Soft to Heavy
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Heavy
Going
Heavy
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€770

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
2m to 2m1f30010.0%33.3%£0€770
2m2f to 2m5f40100.0%25.0%£0€2,013
2m6f to 3m1f20000.0%0.0%£0€0
2m to 2m1f
Distance
2m to 2m1f
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€770
2m2f to 2m5f
Distance
2m2f to 2m5f
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€2,013
2m6f to 3m1f
Distance
2m6f to 3m1f
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Limerick (IRE)20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Clonmel (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Cork (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Gowran Park (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Kelso10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Naas (IRE)10100.0%100.0%£0€2,013
Navan (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Tramore (IRE)10010.0%100.0%£0€770
Limerick (IRE)
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Clonmel (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Cork (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Gowran Park (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Kelso
Course
Kelso
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Naas (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€2,013
Navan (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Tramore (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€770

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Class 410000.0%0.0%£0€0
Handicap (unclassified)50110.0%40.0%£0€2,783
Non-handicap (unclassified)30000.0%0.0%£0€0
Class 4
Class
Class 4
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Handicap (unclassified)
Class
Handicap (unclassified)
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
40.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€2,783
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Class
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
9 to 12 runners20100.0%50.0%£0€2,013
13 to 16 runners30010.0%33.3%£0€770
17+ runners40000.0%0.0%£0€0
9 to 12 runners
Runners
9 to 12 runners
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€2,013
13 to 16 runners
Runners
13 to 16 runners
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€770
17+ runners
Runners
17+ runners
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
January10010.0%100.0%£0€770
February30100.0%33.3%£0€2,013
March10000.0%0.0%£0€0
July10000.0%0.0%£0€0
November20000.0%0.0%£0€0
December10000.0%0.0%£0€0
January
Month
January
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€770
February
Month
February
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€2,013
March
Month
March
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
July
Month
July
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
November
Month
November
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
December
Month
December
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Daniel Howard50100.0%20.0%£0€2,013
Brian Harding10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Miss L A Hourigan10010.0%100.0%£0€770
Mr A Fitzgerald10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Sean McDermott10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Daniel Howard
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
20.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€2,013
Brian Harding
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Miss L A Hourigan
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€770
Mr A Fitzgerald
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Sean McDermott
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Paul John Gilligan90110.0%22.2%£0€2,783
Paul John Gilligan
Runs
9
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
22.2%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€2,783

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear60010.0%16.7%£0€770
b30100.0%33.3%£0€2,013
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
6
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
16.7%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€770
b
Headgear
b
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€2,013

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10000.0%0.0%£0€0
1 to 7 days10100.0%100.0%£0€2,013
8 to 14 days20000.0%0.0%£0€0
15 to 30 days20000.0%0.0%£0€0
31 to 60 days20010.0%50.0%£0€770
61 to 120 days10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
1 to 7 days
Days since last run
1 to 7 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€2,013
8 to 14 days
Days since last run
8 to 14 days
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
15 to 30 days
Days since last run
15 to 30 days
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
31 to 60 days
Days since last run
31 to 60 days
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€770
61 to 120 days
Days since last run
61 to 120 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

By first-time headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
First time in any headgear10100.0%100.0%£0€2,013
First time blinkers10100.0%100.0%£0€2,013
Headgear, all items worn before20000.0%0.0%£0€0
No headgear60010.0%16.7%£0€770
First time in any headgear
Headgear
First time in any headgear
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€2,013
First time blinkers
Headgear
First time blinkers
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€2,013
Headgear, all items worn before
Headgear
Headgear, all items worn before
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
6
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
16.7%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€770

A run can count in more than one "first time" row (e.g. first-time blinkers and first headgear of any kind). First time is judged against earlier British and Irish runs only.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchGlacial Storm (USA)

Parent · 1

  1. SireGlacial Storm (USA)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireArctic Tern (USA)
  2. Sire's damHortensia (FR)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchDrachma (GB)

Parent · 1

  1. DamDrachma (GB)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireNetherkelly (GB)
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Glacial Storm (USA)
Drachma (GB)
Arctic Tern (USA)
Hortensia (FR)
Netherkelly (GB)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseGood Debate (IRE)
Sexgelding
Foaled1998
SireGlacial Storm (USA)
DamDrachma (GB)
DamsireNetherkelly (GB)
Sire's sireArctic Tern (USA)
Sire's damHortensia (FR)
Dam's produce0 winners from 2 runners
Notable siblingTuckette (IRE)

Female line

  1. Drachma (GB) · 0 winners from 2 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Glacial Storm (USA)Drachma (GB)Netherkelly (GB)geldingFlat 15.0f · NH 2m4½fFlat 5.6f · NH 2m4½f
Glacial Storm (USA)
Sex
gelding
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 15.0f · NH 2m4½f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 5.6f · NH 2m4½f

Progeny of Glacial Storm (USA) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs6,4445741,5628.9%24.2%90
At 2m2f to 2m5f2,3101955508.4%23.8%40
On Soft going1,6931414148.3%24.5%50
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Soft going622521488.4%23.8%30
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
6,444
Wins
574
Placed
1,562
Win %
8.9%
Place %
24.2%
This horse runs
9
This horse wins
0
At 2m2f to 2m5f
Condition
At 2m2f to 2m5f
Runs
2,310
Wins
195
Placed
550
Win %
8.4%
Place %
23.8%
This horse runs
4
This horse wins
0
On Soft going
Condition
On Soft going
Runs
1,693
Wins
141
Placed
414
Win %
8.3%
Place %
24.5%
This horse runs
5
This horse wins
0
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Soft going
Condition
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Soft going
Runs
622
Wins
52
Placed
148
Win %
8.4%
Place %
23.8%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Glacial Storm (USA) × Netherkelly mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt100.0%09020.0%£0€2,783
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
1
Winners
0
Winners %
0.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
9
Wins
0
2nd/3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€2,783

Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Good Debate (IRE)900£0€2,783
Good Debate (IRE)
Runs
9
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€2,783

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Ratings

Official ratings

CodeCurrent ORHighest ORLowest ORRated runs
National Hunt7980785
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
79
Highest OR
80
Lowest OR
78
Rated runs
5

Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.

Official rating by run

DateCourseCodeORChangePos
14 Mar 04Cork (IRE)NH79-1F/24
16 Feb 04Navan (IRE)NH80217/17
7 Feb 04Naas (IRE)NH7802/10
5 Feb 04Clonmel (IRE)NH78012/18
27 Jan 04Tramore (IRE)NH78-3/13

Current mark v winning marks

CodeCurrent OROR last runChangeHighest ORv highest
National Hunt7979080-1
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
79
OR last run
79
Change
0
Highest OR
80
v highest
-1

Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.

Family

Dam summary

Drachma (GB)

G1 winners
0
Produce
0 winners from 2 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Glacial Storm (USA) out of Drachma (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Buckskin (FR)

Female line

  1. 1Drachma (GB)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

In brief

When was Good Debate foaled?

Good Debate (IRE) was foaled in 1998.

Who are the sire and dam of Good Debate?

Good Debate (IRE) is by Glacial Storm (USA) out of Drachma (GB), a daughter of Netherkelly (GB).

Who trained Good Debate?

Good Debate (IRE) was trained by Paul John Gilligan and owned by E Gilligan at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Good Debate's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Good Debate (IRE) ran 9 times without winning.

What was Good Debate's official rating?

Good Debate (IRE) was last officially rated 79 over jumps (career high 80).

Is Good Debate still racing?

Good Debate (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 14 March 2004 at Cork (IRE) in the Sunset Beach Club Handicap Hurdle (result: fell, 24 ran), and has not run there since.

What is Good Debate's record at Limerick (IRE)?

Good Debate (IRE) ran most often at Limerick (IRE), with no wins from 2 runs there.

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