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Horse profile
You'll Never Know (IRE)
- TrainerT Hogan
- OwnerC P McGuinness
- FamilyTumble Ria
- Sex
- mare
- Foaled
- 1993
See also: You'll Never Know (USA) · A Kinsella · 2 runs · 0 wins
- Highest OR
- 71
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 4 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last official rating
- 71 (Jumps)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 19 Jan 2000, Down Royal (IRE) (PU/20)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Headgear | Winner / 2nd | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 19 Jan 00 | Down Royal (IRE) | PU/20 | 10/1 | - | K P Gaule | T Hogan | Millennium Handicap Hurdle | Handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m4f | Yielding to Soft | 10-7 | 71 | t | Back To Bavaria (IRE) | 32 | 0/16 |
| 18 Dec 99 | Navan (IRE) | 28/30 | 20/1 | dist | K P Gaule | T Hogan | I.N.H. Stallion Owners E.B.F. Maiden Hurdle | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m2f | Soft | 11-1 | - | - | Coralpha (IRE) | 593 | 1/26 |
| 4 May 98 | Limerick (IRE) | 7/20 | 10/1 | 26½ | Neil Mulholland | Donal Hassett | Pat Keogh Nissan Maiden Hurdle | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m1f | Yielding to Soft | 10-7 | - | - | Mantles Prince (GB) | 5 | 1/18 |
| 29 Apr 98 | Punchestown (IRE) | 24/25 | 20/1 | dist | T J Mitchell | Donal Hassett | Brown Thomas Novice Hurdle | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m | Heavy | 11-2 | - | - | As Royal (IRE) | - | 3/23 |
Millennium Handicap Hurdle
Handicap (unclassified)2m4fYielding to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 19 Jan 00
- Course
- Down Royal (IRE)
- Pos
- PU/20
- SP
- 10/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- K P Gaule
- Trainer
- T Hogan
- Race
- Millennium Handicap Hurdle
- Class
- Handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m4f
- Going
- Yielding to Soft
- Wgt
- 10-7
- OR
- 71
- Headgear
- t
- Winner / 2nd
- Back To Bavaria (IRE)
- Days
- 32
- Future form
- 0/16
I.N.H. Stallion Owners E.B.F. Maiden Hurdle
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m2fSoft
All fields
- Date
- 18 Dec 99
- Course
- Navan (IRE)
- Pos
- 28/30
- SP
- 20/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- K P Gaule
- Trainer
- T Hogan
- Race
- I.N.H. Stallion Owners E.B.F. Maiden Hurdle
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m2f
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 11-1
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Coralpha (IRE)
- Days
- 593
- Future form
- 1/26
Pat Keogh Nissan Maiden Hurdle
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m1fYielding to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 4 May 98
- Course
- Limerick (IRE)
- Pos
- 7/20
- SP
- 10/1
- Btn
- 26½
- Jockey
- Neil Mulholland
- Trainer
- Donal Hassett
- Race
- Pat Keogh Nissan Maiden Hurdle
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m1f
- Going
- Yielding to Soft
- Wgt
- 10-7
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Mantles Prince (GB)
- Days
- 5
- Future form
- 1/18
Brown Thomas Novice Hurdle
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mHeavy
All fields
- Date
- 29 Apr 98
- Course
- Punchestown (IRE)
- Pos
- 24/25
- SP
- 20/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- T J Mitchell
- Trainer
- Donal Hassett
- Race
- Brown Thomas Novice Hurdle
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Heavy
- Wgt
- 11-2
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- As Royal (IRE)
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 3/23
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 18 Dec 99 | Navan (IRE) | I.N.H. Stallion Owners E.B.F. Maiden Hurdle | 28/30 | Kilmourne (IRE) | 6 | 19 Jan 00 | Down Royal (IRE) | New Weigh Room Complex Colts and Geldings Maiden Hurdle |
| 4 May 98 | Limerick (IRE) | Pat Keogh Nissan Maiden Hurdle | 7/20 | Dedham Gale (IRE) | 2 | 21 May 98 | Tipperary (IRE) | Thomastown M'dn H'dle (Div 1) |
| 29 Apr 98 | Punchestown (IRE) | Brown Thomas Novice Hurdle | 24/25 | As Royal (IRE) | 1 | 17 May 98 | Naas (IRE) | Dawn Farm Dist.Gateway To Europe Hcp Hdl |
| 29 Apr 98 | Punchestown (IRE) | Brown Thomas Novice Hurdle | 24/25 | Sawa-Id (GB) | 3 | 18 May 98 | Roscommon (IRE) | Villiger H'dle |
| 29 Apr 98 | Punchestown (IRE) | Brown Thomas Novice Hurdle | 24/25 | Walt I (IRE) | 5 | 13 May 98 | Navan (IRE) | Oberstown Maiden Hurdle |
- 28/3018 Dec 99 · Navan (IRE)
I.N.H. Stallion Owners E.B.F. Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 18 Dec 99
- Course
- Navan (IRE)
- Race
- I.N.H. Stallion Owners E.B.F. Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- 28/30
- Winner next time
- Kilmourne (IRE)
- Their pos
- 6
- Won on
- 19 Jan 00
- Race won
- New Weigh Room Complex Colts and Geldings Maiden Hurdle
- 7/204 May 98 · Limerick (IRE)
Pat Keogh Nissan Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 4 May 98
- Course
- Limerick (IRE)
- Race
- Pat Keogh Nissan Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- 7/20
- Winner next time
- Dedham Gale (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 21 May 98
- Race won
- Thomastown M'dn H'dle (Div 1)
- 24/2529 Apr 98 · Punchestown (IRE)
Brown Thomas Novice Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 29 Apr 98
- Course
- Punchestown (IRE)
- Race
- Brown Thomas Novice Hurdle
- This horse
- 24/25
- Winner next time
- As Royal (IRE)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 17 May 98
- Race won
- Dawn Farm Dist.Gateway To Europe Hcp Hdl
- 24/2529 Apr 98 · Punchestown (IRE)
Brown Thomas Novice Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 29 Apr 98
- Course
- Punchestown (IRE)
- Race
- Brown Thomas Novice Hurdle
- This horse
- 24/25
- Winner next time
- Sawa-Id (GB)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 18 May 98
- Race won
- Villiger H'dle
- 24/2529 Apr 98 · Punchestown (IRE)
Brown Thomas Novice Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 29 Apr 98
- Course
- Punchestown (IRE)
- Race
- Brown Thomas Novice Hurdle
- This horse
- 24/25
- Winner next time
- Walt I (IRE)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 13 May 98
- Race won
- Oberstown Maiden Hurdle
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | Moved from | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| T Hogan | Donal Hassett | 18 Dec 99 | 19 Jan 00 | 28/30 | 71 | 71 | 71 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Donal Hassett | - | 29 Apr 98 | 4 May 98 | 24/25 | - | - | - | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
T Hogan
- Trainer
- T Hogan
- Moved from
- Donal Hassett
- First run
- 18 Dec 99
- Last run
- 19 Jan 00
- First run for yard
- 28/30
- OR first run
- 71
- OR last run
- 71
- Best OR
- 71
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Donal Hassett
- Trainer
- Donal Hassett
- First run
- 29 Apr 98
- Last run
- 4 May 98
- First run for yard
- 24/25
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Spells with each trainer in race order, latest first (a horse that returns to a trainer shows a new spell). From British and Irish runs since 1990.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 71 | 29 Apr 98 | 19 Jan 00 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 71
- First run
- 29 Apr 98
- Last run
- 19 Jan 00
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Hurdle
- Race type
- Hurdle
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yielding to Soft | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Yielding to Soft
- Going
- Yielding to Soft
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Soft
- Going
- Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Heavy
- Going
- Heavy
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m to 2m1f | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 2m2f to 2m5f | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
2m to 2m1f
- Distance
- 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
2m2f to 2m5f
- Distance
- 2m2f to 2m5f
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Down Royal (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Limerick (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Navan (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Punchestown (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Down Royal (IRE)
- Course
- Down Royal (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Limerick (IRE)
- Course
- Limerick (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Navan (IRE)
- Course
- Navan (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Punchestown (IRE)
- Course
- Punchestown (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Non-handicap (unclassified) | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Handicap (unclassified) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Handicap (unclassified)
- Class
- Handicap (unclassified)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 17+ runners | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
17+ runners
- Runners
- 17+ runners
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| January | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| April | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| May | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| December | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
January
- Month
- January
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
April
- Month
- April
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
May
- Month
- May
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
December
- Month
- December
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| K P Gaule | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Neil Mulholland | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| T J Mitchell | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
K P Gaule
- Jockey
- K P Gaule
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Neil Mulholland
- Jockey
- Neil Mulholland
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
T J Mitchell
- Jockey
- T J Mitchell
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Donal Hassett | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| T Hogan | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Donal Hassett
- Trainer
- Donal Hassett
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
T Hogan
- Trainer
- T Hogan
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| t | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
t
- Headgear
- t
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 1 to 7 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Over a year | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
1 to 7 days
- Days since last run
- 1 to 7 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Over a year
- Days since last run
- Over a year
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
By first-time headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| First time in any headgear | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| First time tongue strap | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| No headgear | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
First time in any headgear
- Headgear
- First time in any headgear
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
First time tongue strap
- Headgear
- First time tongue strap
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
A run can count in more than one "first time" row (e.g. first-time blinkers and first headgear of any kind). First time is judged against earlier British and Irish runs only.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchUn Desperado (FR)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchTumble Ria (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireTumble Wind I (GB)
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Tumble Ria (GB) · 2 winners from 4 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Un Desperado (FR) | Tumble Ria (GB) | Tumble Wind I (GB) | mare | Flat 10.9f · NH 2m4f | Flat 7.2f · NH 2m2½f |
Un Desperado (FR)
- Damsire
- Tumble Wind I (GB)
- Sex
- mare
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 10.9f · NH 2m4f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 7.2f · NH 2m2½f
Progeny of Un Desperado (FR) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 3,673 | 391 | 962 | 4 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f | 1,400 | 133 | 362 | 2 | 0 | ||
| On Good to soft or yielding going | 826 | 85 | 206 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going | 338 | 35 | 83 | 1 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 3,673
- Wins
- 391
- Placed
- 962
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 4
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 1,400
- Wins
- 133
- Placed
- 362
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good to soft or yielding going
- Condition
- On Good to soft or yielding going
- Runs
- 826
- Wins
- 85
- Placed
- 206
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
- Runs
- 338
- Wins
- 35
- Placed
- 83
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Un Desperado (FR) × Tumble Wind I mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| You'll Never Know (IRE) | 4 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
You'll Never Know (IRE)
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 71 | 71 | 71 | 1 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 71
- Highest OR
- 71
- Lowest OR
- 71
- Rated runs
- 1
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
| Date | Course | Code | OR | Pos |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 19 Jan 00 | Down Royal (IRE) | NH | 71 | PU/20 |
- PU/2019 Jan 00 · Down Royal (IRE)
All fields
- Date
- 19 Jan 00
- Course
- Down Royal (IRE)
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 71
- Pos
- PU/20
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 71 | 71 | 0 | 71 | 0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 71
- OR last run
- 71
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 71
- v highest
- 0
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 2 winners from 4 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Un Desperado (FR) out of Tumble Ria (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Gorytus (USA)
- Stane Street (IRE)3W · 29R
By Coquelin (USA)
- Ca-Knowe (IRE)0W · 7R
By The Parson (GB)
- Definite Maybe I (IRE)1W · 7R
Female line
- 1Tumble Ria (GB)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was You'll Never Know foaled?
You'll Never Know (IRE) was foaled in 1993.
Who are the sire and dam of You'll Never Know?
You'll Never Know (IRE) is by Un Desperado (FR) out of Tumble Ria (GB), a daughter of Tumble Wind I (GB).
Who trained You'll Never Know?
You'll Never Know (IRE) was trained by T Hogan and owned by C P McGuinness at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland, having also run for Donal Hassett.
What is You'll Never Know's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, You'll Never Know (IRE) ran 4 times without winning.
What was You'll Never Know's official rating?
You'll Never Know (IRE) was last officially rated 71 over jumps (also the career high).
Is You'll Never Know still racing?
You'll Never Know (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 19 January 2000 at Down Royal (IRE) in the Millennium Handicap Hurdle (result: pulled up, 20 ran), and has not run there since.
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