If Not For You (IRE) silks

Horse profile

If Not For You

Celtic Swing (GB) × Ker Lani (FR) (Ashkalani (IRE))
Sex
gelding
Foaled
2008
Highest OR
123
Record (GB & IRE)
3 wins from 12 runs (25%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
€21,475 IRE
Last official rating
117 (Jumps)
Last run (GB & IRE)
31 Oct 2016, Galway (IRE) (8/11)
Last win (GB & IRE)
4 Dec 2014, Clonmel (IRE)
Recent form
8162131F3PU108

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtORHeadgearWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
31 Oct 16Galway (IRE)8/1120/1distMark WalshEdward P HartyEnnis Lifts Handicap ChaseHandicap (unclassified)Chase2m6½fYielding10-6117tHash Brown (IRE)€15,375730/9
19 Aug 16Kilbeggan (IRE)10/1010/1distMark WalshEdward P HartyAt The Races Handicap HurdleHandicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mGood to Yielding11-8112-Baily Sunset (IRE)€7,6884661/9
11 May 15Killarney (IRE)PU/98/1-Niall P MaddenEdward P HartyMcSweeney Arms Hotel Killarney National Handicap ChaseHandicap (unclassified)Chase2m6fYielding10-6121-Ravished (IRE)€26,000242/8
17 Apr 15Tipperary (IRE)3/42/1F11¼Niall P MaddenEdward P HartyFundraising Events At Tipperary Races Rated Novice ChaseNon-handicap (unclassified)Chase2m1fGood11-7123-Usa (IRE)€11,0401040/2
3 Jan 15Cork (IRE)F/52/1F-Mark WalshEdward P HartyMcCarthy Insurance Group Handicap ChaseHandicap (unclassified)Chase2m4fHeavy11-5123-Bothair Clei (IRE)€11,385301/4
4 Dec 14Clonmel (IRE)1/158/1won 1Mark WalshEdward P HartyClonmel Racecourse Supporters Club Only 85 Euro Beginners ChaseNon-handicap (unclassified)Chase2mSoft11-12--Wither Hills (IRE)€6,210141/13
20 Nov 14Thurles (IRE)3/1614/1distMark WalshEdward P Hartywww.thurlesraces.ie Beginners ChaseNon-handicap (unclassified)Chase2m2fSoft11-12--Aerlite Supreme (IRE)€6,210471/15
4 Oct 14Gowran Park (IRE)1/83/1won nkMark WalshEdward P HartyRooftop Racing Packages @ Gowran Park Maiden HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2m4fYielding11-12--Moores Road (IRE)€6,900580/6
7 Aug 14Sligo (IRE)2/114/17Mark WalshEdward P HartyEasyfix Rubber Products Maiden HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mGood to Yielding11-12--Elishpour (IRE)€6,210470/9
21 Jun 14Gowran Park (IRE)6/187/2distMark WalshEdward P Hartywww.kilkennypembrokehotel.com Maiden HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2m4fGood to Firm11-12--Star Power (IRE)€7,2452960/11
29 Aug 13Killarney (IRE)1/168/1won nkMr P PowerEoin Doyleseamusweldon.com INH Flat RaceNon-handicap (unclassified)NH Flat2m1fGood11-7--Court Frontier (IRE)€5,175241/13
5 Aug 13Cork (IRE)8/207/2J11Mr P PowerEoin DoyleFollow Us On Facebook INH Flat RaceNon-handicap (unclassified)NH Flat2m3fGood to Firm11-7--Mumbo Bay (IRE)€5,520-1/14
  • 8/1131 Oct 16 · Galway (IRE)20/1

    Ennis Lifts Handicap Chase

    Handicap (unclassified)2m6½fYielding

    All fields
    Date
    31 Oct 16
    Pos
    8/11
    SP
    20/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Ennis Lifts Handicap Chase
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m6½f
    Going
    Yielding
    Wgt
    10-6
    OR
    117
    Headgear
    t
    Winner / 2nd
    Hash Brown (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €15,375
    Days
    73
    Future form
    0/9
  • 10/1019 Aug 16 · Kilbeggan (IRE)10/1

    At The Races Handicap Hurdle

    Handicap (unclassified)2mGood to Yielding

    All fields
    Date
    19 Aug 16
    Pos
    10/10
    SP
    10/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    At The Races Handicap Hurdle
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Good to Yielding
    Wgt
    11-8
    OR
    112
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Baily Sunset (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €7,688
    Days
    466
    Future form
    1/9
  • PU/911 May 15 · Killarney (IRE)8/1

    McSweeney Arms Hotel Killarney National Handicap Chase

    Handicap (unclassified)2m6fYielding

    All fields
    Date
    11 May 15
    Pos
    PU/9
    SP
    8/1
    Btn
    -
    Race
    McSweeney Arms Hotel Killarney National Handicap Chase
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m6f
    Going
    Yielding
    Wgt
    10-6
    OR
    121
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Ravished (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €26,000
    Days
    24
    Future form
    2/8
  • 3/417 Apr 15 · Tipperary (IRE)2/1F

    Fundraising Events At Tipperary Races Rated Novice Chase

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m1fGood

    All fields
    Date
    17 Apr 15
    Pos
    3/4
    SP
    2/1F
    Btn
    11¼
    Race
    Fundraising Events At Tipperary Races Rated Novice Chase
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m1f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    11-7
    OR
    123
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Usa (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €11,040
    Days
    104
    Future form
    0/2
  • F/53 Jan 15 · Cork (IRE)2/1F

    McCarthy Insurance Group Handicap Chase

    Handicap (unclassified)2m4fHeavy

    All fields
    Date
    3 Jan 15
    Pos
    F/5
    SP
    2/1F
    Btn
    -
    Race
    McCarthy Insurance Group Handicap Chase
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Heavy
    Wgt
    11-5
    OR
    123
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Bothair Clei (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €11,385
    Days
    30
    Future form
    1/4
  • 1/154 Dec 14 · Clonmel (IRE)8/1

    Clonmel Racecourse Supporters Club Only 85 Euro Beginners Chase

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2mSoft

    All fields
    Date
    4 Dec 14
    Pos
    1/15
    SP
    8/1
    Btn
    won 1
    Race
    Clonmel Racecourse Supporters Club Only 85 Euro Beginners Chase
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    11-12
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Wither Hills (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €6,210
    Days
    14
    Future form
    1/13
  • 3/1620 Nov 14 · Thurles (IRE)14/1

    www.thurlesraces.ie Beginners Chase

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m2fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    20 Nov 14
    Pos
    3/16
    SP
    14/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    www.thurlesraces.ie Beginners Chase
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m2f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    11-12
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner prize
    €6,210
    Days
    47
    Future form
    1/15
  • 1/84 Oct 14 · Gowran Park (IRE)3/1

    Rooftop Racing Packages @ Gowran Park Maiden Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m4fYielding

    All fields
    Date
    4 Oct 14
    Pos
    1/8
    SP
    3/1
    Btn
    won nk
    Race
    Rooftop Racing Packages @ Gowran Park Maiden Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Yielding
    Wgt
    11-12
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Moores Road (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €6,900
    Days
    58
    Future form
    0/6
  • 2/117 Aug 14 · Sligo (IRE)4/1

    Easyfix Rubber Products Maiden Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2mGood to Yielding

    All fields
    Date
    7 Aug 14
    Pos
    2/11
    SP
    4/1
    Btn
    7
    Race
    Easyfix Rubber Products Maiden Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Good to Yielding
    Wgt
    11-12
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Elishpour (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €6,210
    Days
    47
    Future form
    0/9
  • 6/1821 Jun 14 · Gowran Park (IRE)7/2

    www.kilkennypembrokehotel.com Maiden Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m4fGood to Firm

    All fields
    Date
    21 Jun 14
    Pos
    6/18
    SP
    7/2
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    www.kilkennypembrokehotel.com Maiden Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Good to Firm
    Wgt
    11-12
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Star Power (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €7,245
    Days
    296
    Future form
    0/11
  • 1/1629 Aug 13 · Killarney (IRE)8/1

    seamusweldon.com INH Flat Race

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m1fGood

    All fields
    Date
    29 Aug 13
    Pos
    1/16
    SP
    8/1
    Btn
    won nk
    Trainer
    Eoin Doyle
    Race
    seamusweldon.com INH Flat Race
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m1f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    11-7
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner prize
    €5,175
    Days
    24
    Future form
    1/13
  • 8/205 Aug 13 · Cork (IRE)7/2J

    Follow Us On Facebook INH Flat Race

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m3fGood to Firm

    All fields
    Date
    5 Aug 13
    Pos
    8/20
    SP
    7/2J
    Btn
    11
    Trainer
    Eoin Doyle
    Race
    Follow Us On Facebook INH Flat Race
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m3f
    Going
    Good to Firm
    Wgt
    11-7
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Mumbo Bay (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €5,520
    Days
    -
    Future form
    1/14

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
19 Aug 16Kilbeggan (IRE)At The Races Handicap Hurdle10/10Sharlanda (IRE)724 Jun 17Gowran Park (IRE)Whitfield Orthopaedic & Sports Injury Clinic Handicap Hurdle (Div I)
11 May 15Killarney (IRE)McSweeney Arms Hotel Killarney National Handicap ChasePU/9Ravished (IRE)117 Jul 15Kilbeggan (IRE)Midlands National Handicap Chase
11 May 15Killarney (IRE)McSweeney Arms Hotel Killarney National Handicap ChasePU/9Your Busy (IRE)41 Jun 15Listowel (IRE)John J. Galvin Handicap Hurdle
3 Jan 15Cork (IRE)McCarthy Insurance Group Handicap ChaseF/5She's Got Grit (IRE)328 Feb 15Leopardstown (IRE)Mercury Engineering Handicap Chase
4 Dec 14Clonmel (IRE)Clonmel Racecourse Supporters Club Only 85 Euro Beginners Chase1/15Bothair Clei (IRE)713 Dec 14Tramore (IRE)Follow Tramore Racecourse On Facebook Beginners Chase
20 Nov 14Thurles (IRE)www.thurlesraces.ie Beginners Chase3/16Sonny B (IRE)829 Dec 14Limerick (IRE)Ryans Cleaning Beginners Chase
29 Aug 13Killarney (IRE)seamusweldon.com INH Flat Race1/16Ivy Gate (IRE)518 Sep 13Listowel (IRE)McElligotts Tralee Ltd. Land Rover INH Flat Race
5 Aug 13Cork (IRE)Follow Us On Facebook INH Flat Race8/20Master Jake (IRE)1113 Nov 15HexhamFree Spins at 188Bet Casino Novices' Hurdle
  • 10/1019 Aug 16 · Kilbeggan (IRE)

    At The Races Handicap Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    19 Aug 16
    Race
    At The Races Handicap Hurdle
    This horse
    10/10
    Winner next time
    Sharlanda (IRE)
    Their pos
    7
    Won on
    24 Jun 17
    Race won
    Whitfield Orthopaedic & Sports Injury Clinic Handicap Hurdle (Div I)
  • PU/911 May 15 · Killarney (IRE)

    McSweeney Arms Hotel Killarney National Handicap Chase

    All fields
    Date
    11 May 15
    Race
    McSweeney Arms Hotel Killarney National Handicap Chase
    This horse
    PU/9
    Winner next time
    Ravished (IRE)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    17 Jul 15
    Race won
    Midlands National Handicap Chase
  • PU/911 May 15 · Killarney (IRE)

    McSweeney Arms Hotel Killarney National Handicap Chase

    All fields
    Date
    11 May 15
    Race
    McSweeney Arms Hotel Killarney National Handicap Chase
    This horse
    PU/9
    Winner next time
    Your Busy (IRE)
    Their pos
    4
    Won on
    1 Jun 15
    Race won
    John J. Galvin Handicap Hurdle
  • F/53 Jan 15 · Cork (IRE)

    McCarthy Insurance Group Handicap Chase

    All fields
    Date
    3 Jan 15
    Race
    McCarthy Insurance Group Handicap Chase
    This horse
    F/5
    Winner next time
    She's Got Grit (IRE)
    Their pos
    3
    Won on
    28 Feb 15
    Race won
    Mercury Engineering Handicap Chase
  • 1/154 Dec 14 · Clonmel (IRE)

    Clonmel Racecourse Supporters Club Only 85 Euro Beginners Chase

    All fields
    Date
    4 Dec 14
    Race
    Clonmel Racecourse Supporters Club Only 85 Euro Beginners Chase
    This horse
    1/15
    Winner next time
    Bothair Clei (IRE)
    Their pos
    7
    Won on
    13 Dec 14
    Race won
    Follow Tramore Racecourse On Facebook Beginners Chase
  • 3/1620 Nov 14 · Thurles (IRE)

    www.thurlesraces.ie Beginners Chase

    All fields
    Date
    20 Nov 14
    Race
    www.thurlesraces.ie Beginners Chase
    This horse
    3/16
    Winner next time
    Sonny B (IRE)
    Their pos
    8
    Won on
    29 Dec 14
    Race won
    Ryans Cleaning Beginners Chase
  • 1/1629 Aug 13 · Killarney (IRE)

    seamusweldon.com INH Flat Race

    All fields
    Date
    29 Aug 13
    Race
    seamusweldon.com INH Flat Race
    This horse
    1/16
    Winner next time
    Ivy Gate (IRE)
    Their pos
    5
    Won on
    18 Sep 13
    Race won
    McElligotts Tralee Ltd. Land Rover INH Flat Race
  • 8/205 Aug 13 · Cork (IRE)

    Follow Us On Facebook INH Flat Race

    All fields
    Date
    5 Aug 13
    Race
    Follow Us On Facebook INH Flat Race
    This horse
    8/20
    Winner next time
    Master Jake (IRE)
    Their pos
    11
    Won on
    13 Nov 15
    Race won
    Free Spins at 188Bet Casino Novices' Hurdle

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerMoved fromFirst runLast runFirst run for yardOR first runOR last runBest ORRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Edward P HartyEoin Doyle21 Jun 1431 Oct 166/181231171231021220.0%40.0%£0€16,300
Eoin Doyle-5 Aug 1329 Aug 138/20---210050.0%50.0%£0€5,175
Edward P Harty
Moved from
Eoin Doyle
First run
21 Jun 14
Last run
31 Oct 16
First run for yard
6/18
OR first run
123
OR last run
117
Best OR
123
Runs
10
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
2
Win %
20.0%
Place %
40.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€16,300
Eoin Doyle
Trainer
Eoin Doyle
First run
5 Aug 13
Last run
29 Aug 13
First run for yard
8/20
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€5,175

Spells with each trainer in race order, latest first (a horse that returns to a trainer shows a new spell). From British and Irish runs since 1990.

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Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)Best ORFirst runLast run
National Hunt1231225.0%41.7%£0€21,4751235 Aug 1331 Oct 16
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
12
Wins
3
2nd
1
3rd
2
Win %
25.0%
Place %
41.7%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€21,475
Best OR
123
First run
5 Aug 13
Last run
31 Oct 16

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Hurdle411025.0%50.0%£0€8,340
Chase610216.7%33.3%£0€7,960
NH Flat210050.0%50.0%£0€5,175
Hurdle
Race type
Hurdle
Runs
4
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
25.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€8,340
Chase
Race type
Chase
Runs
6
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
2
Win %
16.7%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€7,960
NH Flat
Race type
NH Flat
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€5,175

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Good to Firm20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Good210150.0%50.0%£0€6,295
Good to Yielding20100.0%50.0%£0€1,440
Yielding310033.3%33.3%£0€6,900
Soft210150.0%100.0%£0€6,840
Heavy10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Good to Firm
Going
Good to Firm
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good
Going
Good
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€6,295
Good to Yielding
Going
Good to Yielding
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€1,440
Yielding
Going
Yielding
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
33.3%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€6,900
Soft
Going
Soft
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
50.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€6,840
Heavy
Going
Heavy
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
2m to 2m1f521140.0%60.0%£0€13,945
2m2f to 2m5f510120.0%40.0%£0€7,530
2m6f to 3m1f20000.0%0.0%£0€0
2m to 2m1f
Distance
2m to 2m1f
Runs
5
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
40.0%
Place %
60.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€13,945
2m2f to 2m5f
Distance
2m2f to 2m5f
Runs
5
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
20.0%
Place %
40.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€7,530
2m6f to 3m1f
Distance
2m6f to 3m1f
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Gowran Park (IRE)210050.0%50.0%£0€6,900
Killarney (IRE)210050.0%50.0%£0€5,175
Cork (IRE)20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Clonmel (IRE)1100100.0%100.0%£0€6,210
Galway (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Kilbeggan (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Sligo (IRE)10100.0%100.0%£0€1,440
Thurles (IRE)10010.0%100.0%£0€630
Tipperary (IRE)10010.0%0.0%£0€1,120
Gowran Park (IRE)
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€6,900
Killarney (IRE)
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€5,175
Cork (IRE)
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Clonmel (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€6,210
Galway (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Kilbeggan (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Sligo (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€1,440
Thurles (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€630
Tipperary (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€1,120

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Non-handicap (unclassified)831237.5%62.5%£0€21,475
Handicap (unclassified)40000.0%0.0%£0€0
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Class
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Runs
8
Wins
3
2nd
1
3rd
2
Win %
37.5%
Place %
62.5%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€21,475
Handicap (unclassified)
Class
Handicap (unclassified)
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
2 to 5 runners20010.0%0.0%£0€1,120
9 to 12 runners40100.0%25.0%£0€1,440
6 to 8 runners1100100.0%100.0%£0€6,900
13 to 16 runners320166.7%100.0%£0€12,015
17+ runners20000.0%0.0%£0€0
2 to 5 runners
Runners
2 to 5 runners
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€1,120
9 to 12 runners
Runners
9 to 12 runners
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€1,440
6 to 8 runners
Runners
6 to 8 runners
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€6,900
13 to 16 runners
Runners
13 to 16 runners
Runs
3
Wins
2
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
66.7%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€12,015
17+ runners
Runners
17+ runners
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
January10000.0%0.0%£0€0
April10010.0%0.0%£0€1,120
May10000.0%0.0%£0€0
June10000.0%0.0%£0€0
August411025.0%50.0%£0€6,615
October210050.0%50.0%£0€6,900
November10010.0%100.0%£0€630
December1100100.0%100.0%£0€6,210
January
Month
January
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
April
Month
April
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€1,120
May
Month
May
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
June
Month
June
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
August
Month
August
Runs
4
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
25.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€6,615
October
Month
October
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€6,900
November
Month
November
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€630
December
Month
December
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€6,210

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Mark Walsh821125.0%50.0%£0€15,180
Mr P Power210050.0%50.0%£0€5,175
Niall P Madden20010.0%0.0%£0€1,120
Mark Walsh
Runs
8
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
25.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€15,180
Mr P Power
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€5,175
Niall P Madden
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€1,120

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Edward P Harty1021220.0%40.0%£0€16,300
Eoin Doyle210050.0%50.0%£0€5,175
Edward P Harty
Runs
10
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
2
Win %
20.0%
Place %
40.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€16,300
Eoin Doyle
Trainer
Eoin Doyle
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€5,175

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear1131227.3%45.5%£0€21,475
t10000.0%0.0%£0€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
11
Wins
3
2nd
1
3rd
2
Win %
27.3%
Place %
45.5%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€21,475
t
Headgear
t
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10000.0%0.0%£0€0
8 to 14 days1100100.0%100.0%£0€6,210
15 to 30 days310033.3%33.3%£0€5,175
31 to 60 days311133.3%100.0%£0€8,970
61 to 120 days20010.0%0.0%£0€1,120
121 to 365 days10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Over a year10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
8 to 14 days
Days since last run
8 to 14 days
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€6,210
15 to 30 days
Days since last run
15 to 30 days
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
33.3%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€5,175
31 to 60 days
Days since last run
31 to 60 days
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
33.3%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€8,970
61 to 120 days
Days since last run
61 to 120 days
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€1,120
121 to 365 days
Days since last run
121 to 365 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Over a year
Days since last run
Over a year
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

By first-time headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
First time in any headgear10000.0%0.0%£0€0
First time tongue strap10000.0%0.0%£0€0
No headgear1131227.3%45.5%£0€21,475
First time in any headgear
Headgear
First time in any headgear
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
First time tongue strap
Headgear
First time tongue strap
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
11
Wins
3
2nd
1
3rd
2
Win %
27.3%
Place %
45.5%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€21,475

A run can count in more than one "first time" row (e.g. first-time blinkers and first headgear of any kind). First time is judged against earlier British and Irish runs only.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchCeltic Swing (GB)

Parent · 1

  1. SireCeltic Swing (GB)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireDamister (USA)
  2. Sire's damCeltic Ring (GB)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchKer Lani (FR)

Parent · 1

  1. DamKer Lani (FR)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireAshkalani (IRE)
  2. Dam's damHier Deja (FR)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Celtic Swing (GB)
Ker Lani (FR)
Damister (USA)
Celtic Ring (GB)
Ashkalani (IRE)
Hier Deja (FR)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseIf Not For You (IRE)
Sexgelding
Foaled2008
SireCeltic Swing (GB)
DamKer Lani (FR)
DamsireAshkalani (IRE)
Sire's sireDamister (USA)
Sire's damCeltic Ring (GB)
2nd damHier Deja (FR)
Dam's produce1 winners from 1 runners

Female line

  1. Ker Lani (FR) · by Ashkalani (IRE) · 1 winners from 1 runners
  2. Hier Deja (FR) · 0 winners from 1 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Celtic Swing (GB)Ker Lani (FR)Ashkalani (IRE)geldingFlat 9.1f · NH 2m2fFlat 8.1f · NH 2m2½f
Celtic Swing (GB)
Sex
gelding
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 9.1f · NH 2m2f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 8.1f · NH 2m2½f

Progeny of Celtic Swing (GB) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs939822468.7%26.2%123
At 2m to 2m1f523431418.2%27.0%52
On Good going332369510.8%28.6%41
At 2m to 2m1f on Good going16515489.1%29.1%41
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
939
Wins
82
Placed
246
Win %
8.7%
Place %
26.2%
This horse runs
12
This horse wins
3
At 2m to 2m1f
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f
Runs
523
Wins
43
Placed
141
Win %
8.2%
Place %
27.0%
This horse runs
5
This horse wins
2
On Good going
Condition
On Good going
Runs
332
Wins
36
Placed
95
Win %
10.8%
Place %
28.6%
This horse runs
4
This horse wins
1
At 2m to 2m1f on Good going
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f on Good going
Runs
165
Wins
15
Placed
48
Win %
9.1%
Place %
29.1%
This horse runs
4
This horse wins
1

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Celtic Swing (GB) × Ashkalani mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt11100.0%0123325.0%£0€21,475
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
1
Winners
1
Winners %
100.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
12
Wins
3
2nd/3rd
3
Win %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€21,475

Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
If Not For You (IRE)1230£0€21,475
If Not For You (IRE)
Runs
12
Wins
3
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€21,475

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Ratings

Official ratings

CodeCurrent ORHighest ORLowest ORRated runs
National Hunt1171231125
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
117
Highest OR
123
Lowest OR
112
Rated runs
5

Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.

Official rating by run

DateCourseCodeORChangePos
31 Oct 16Galway (IRE)NH11758/11
19 Aug 16Kilbeggan (IRE)NH112-910/10
11 May 15Killarney (IRE)NH121-2PU/9
17 Apr 15Tipperary (IRE)NH12303/4
3 Jan 15Cork (IRE)NH123-F/5

Current mark v winning marks

CodeCurrent OROR last runChangeHighest ORv highest
National Hunt1171170123-6
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
117
OR last run
117
Change
0
Highest OR
123
v highest
-6

Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.

Family

Dam summary

Ker Lani (FR)

G1 winners
0
Produce
1 winners from 1 runners

Full siblings

If Not For You is the only foal out of Ker Lani (FR) to have raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

If Not For You is the only foal out of Ker Lani (FR) to have raced in Britain or Ireland.

Female line

  1. 1Ker Lani (FR) · by Ashkalani (IRE)
  2. 2Hier Deja (FR)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

View full Hier Deja family

In brief

When was If Not For You foaled?

If Not For You (IRE) was foaled in 2008.

Who are the sire and dam of If Not For You?

If Not For You (IRE) is by Celtic Swing (GB) out of Ker Lani (FR), a daughter of Ashkalani (IRE).

Who trained If Not For You?

If Not For You (IRE) was trained by Edward P Harty and owned by John P McManus at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland, having also run for Eoin Doyle.

What is If Not For You's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, If Not For You (IRE) won 3 of 12 races (25%).

Has If Not For You ever been beaten?

If Not For You (IRE) was beaten 9 times in 12 runs in Britain and Ireland, the first time on 5 August 2013 at Cork (IRE) (8th of 20).

What was If Not For You's official rating?

If Not For You (IRE) was last officially rated 117 over jumps (career high 123).

Is If Not For You still racing?

If Not For You (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 31 October 2016 at Galway (IRE) in the Ennis Lifts Handicap Chase, finishing 8th of 11, and has not run there since.

What is If Not For You's record at Gowran Park (IRE)?

If Not For You (IRE) ran most often at Gowran Park (IRE), with 1 win from 2 runs there.

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