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Horse profile
Deep Determination
- TrainerC Roche
- OwnerMichael A O'Riordan
- FamilyForest Lair
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 2007
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 7 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- €3,200 IRE
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 9 Jul 2013, Roscommon (IRE) (11/18)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Recent form
1122169711
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Headgear | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 9 Jul 13 | Roscommon (IRE) | 11/18 | 12/1 | dist | Jody McGarvey | C Roche | Martinstown Opportunity Maiden Hurdle | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m4f | Good to Firm | 11-0 | tp | All Or Now (IRE) | €6,900 | 37 | 2/13 |
| 2 Jun 13 | Kilbeggan (IRE) | 7/14 | 25/1 | 26½ | Alan Crowe | C Roche | Follow Kilbeggan Races on Facebook Maiden Hurdle | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m | Good to Firm | 11-4 | p | Captain Lob (IRE) | €5,175 | 16 | 0/9 |
| 17 May 13 | Kilbeggan (IRE) | 9/10 | 8/1 | dist | Mr P Roche | C Roche | www.kilbegganraces.ie INH Flat Race | Non-handicap (unclassified) | NH Flat | 2m | Yielding to Soft | 11-11 | tp | Indian Road Runner (IRE) | €4,830 | 591 | 1/9 |
| 4 Oct 11 | Tipperary (IRE) | 16/18 | 9/4F | dist | Alan Crowe | C Roche | Visit Tipperary Maiden Hurdle (Div II) | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m | Good to Yielding | 11-3 | - | Captain Dancer (IRE) | €3,600 | 22 | 0/15 |
| 12 Sep 11 | Listowel (IRE) | 2/14 | 7/2 | 13 | Mr P Roche | C Roche | Bank Of Ireland 4yo INH Flat Race | Non-handicap (unclassified) | NH Flat | 2m | Soft | 11-4 | - | Missunited (IRE) | €6,900 | 102 | 1/10 |
| 2 Jun 11 | Tipperary (IRE) | 2/14 | 7/2 | hd | Mr P Roche | C Roche | Social Clubs 4yo INH Flat Race | Non-handicap (unclassified) | NH Flat | 2m | Good | 10-11 | - | Ut Love (FR) | €6,900 | 46 | 1/13 |
| 17 Apr 11 | Gowran Park (IRE) | 11/17 | 20/1 | 24½ | C J Bailey | C Roche | Inistioge (Pro/Am) 4yo INH Flat Race (Div II) | Non-handicap (unclassified) | NH Flat | 2m | Good | 11-0 | - | Miss Nomer (IRE) | €3,840 | - | 0/15 |
Martinstown Opportunity Maiden Hurdle
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m4fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 9 Jul 13
- Course
- Roscommon (IRE)
- Pos
- 11/18
- SP
- 12/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Jody McGarvey
- Trainer
- C Roche
- Race
- Martinstown Opportunity Maiden Hurdle
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m4f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 11-0
- Headgear
- tp
- Winner / 2nd
- All Or Now (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €6,900
- Days
- 37
- Future form
- 2/13
Follow Kilbeggan Races on Facebook Maiden Hurdle
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 2 Jun 13
- Course
- Kilbeggan (IRE)
- Pos
- 7/14
- SP
- 25/1
- Btn
- 26½
- Jockey
- Alan Crowe
- Trainer
- C Roche
- Race
- Follow Kilbeggan Races on Facebook Maiden Hurdle
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 11-4
- Headgear
- p
- Winner / 2nd
- Captain Lob (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €5,175
- Days
- 16
- Future form
- 0/9
www.kilbegganraces.ie INH Flat Race
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mYielding to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 17 May 13
- Course
- Kilbeggan (IRE)
- Pos
- 9/10
- SP
- 8/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Mr P Roche
- Trainer
- C Roche
- Race
- www.kilbegganraces.ie INH Flat Race
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Yielding to Soft
- Wgt
- 11-11
- Headgear
- tp
- Winner / 2nd
- Indian Road Runner (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €4,830
- Days
- 591
- Future form
- 1/9
Visit Tipperary Maiden Hurdle (Div II)
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mGood to Yielding
All fields
- Date
- 4 Oct 11
- Course
- Tipperary (IRE)
- Pos
- 16/18
- SP
- 9/4F
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Alan Crowe
- Trainer
- C Roche
- Race
- Visit Tipperary Maiden Hurdle (Div II)
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Good to Yielding
- Wgt
- 11-3
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Captain Dancer (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €3,600
- Days
- 22
- Future form
- 0/15
Bank Of Ireland 4yo INH Flat Race
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mSoft
All fields
- Date
- 12 Sep 11
- Course
- Listowel (IRE)
- Pos
- 2/14
- SP
- 7/2
- Btn
- 13
- Jockey
- Mr P Roche
- Trainer
- C Roche
- Race
- Bank Of Ireland 4yo INH Flat Race
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 11-4
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Missunited (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €6,900
- Days
- 102
- Future form
- 1/10
Social Clubs 4yo INH Flat Race
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mGood
All fields
- Date
- 2 Jun 11
- Course
- Tipperary (IRE)
- Pos
- 2/14
- SP
- 7/2
- Btn
- hd
- Jockey
- Mr P Roche
- Trainer
- C Roche
- Race
- Social Clubs 4yo INH Flat Race
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 10-11
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Ut Love (FR)
- Winner prize
- €6,900
- Days
- 46
- Future form
- 1/13
Inistioge (Pro/Am) 4yo INH Flat Race (Div II)
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mGood
All fields
- Date
- 17 Apr 11
- Course
- Gowran Park (IRE)
- Pos
- 11/17
- SP
- 20/1
- Btn
- 24½
- Jockey
- C J Bailey
- Trainer
- C Roche
- Race
- Inistioge (Pro/Am) 4yo INH Flat Race (Div II)
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 11-0
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Miss Nomer (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €3,840
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 0/15
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 9 Jul 13 | Roscommon (IRE) | Martinstown Opportunity Maiden Hurdle | 11/18 | Fairy Court (IRE) | 6 | 18 Aug 13 | Tramore (IRE) | Graun Hill Suite - Perfect For Parties (Q.R.) Maiden Hurdle |
| 9 Jul 13 | Roscommon (IRE) | Martinstown Opportunity Maiden Hurdle | 11/18 | Evesham Star (IRE) | 9 | 26 Oct 13 | Wexford (RH) (IRE) | Casey Concrete Gorey Handicap Hurdle |
| 17 May 13 | Kilbeggan (IRE) | www.kilbegganraces.ie INH Flat Race | 9/10 | Dr Schultz (IRE) | 4 | 19 Jul 13 | Kilbeggan (IRE) | Mullingar INH Flat Race |
| 12 Sep 11 | Listowel (IRE) | Bank Of Ireland 4yo INH Flat Race | 2/14 | Missunited (IRE) | 1 | 26 Oct 11 | Punchestown (IRE) | Thoroughbred County Mares INH Flat Race |
| 2 Jun 11 | Tipperary (IRE) | Social Clubs 4yo INH Flat Race | 2/14 | Kilbarry Classic (IRE) | 5 | 5 Jul 11 | Roscommon (IRE) | Boyle Mares Ladies INH Flat Race |
- 11/189 Jul 13 · Roscommon (IRE)
Martinstown Opportunity Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 9 Jul 13
- Course
- Roscommon (IRE)
- Race
- Martinstown Opportunity Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- 11/18
- Winner next time
- Fairy Court (IRE)
- Their pos
- 6
- Won on
- 18 Aug 13
- Race won
- Graun Hill Suite - Perfect For Parties (Q.R.) Maiden Hurdle
- 11/189 Jul 13 · Roscommon (IRE)
Martinstown Opportunity Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 9 Jul 13
- Course
- Roscommon (IRE)
- Race
- Martinstown Opportunity Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- 11/18
- Winner next time
- Evesham Star (IRE)
- Their pos
- 9
- Won on
- 26 Oct 13
- At
- Wexford (RH) (IRE)
- Race won
- Casey Concrete Gorey Handicap Hurdle
- 9/1017 May 13 · Kilbeggan (IRE)
www.kilbegganraces.ie INH Flat Race
All fields
- Date
- 17 May 13
- Course
- Kilbeggan (IRE)
- Race
- www.kilbegganraces.ie INH Flat Race
- This horse
- 9/10
- Winner next time
- Dr Schultz (IRE)
- Their pos
- 4
- Won on
- 19 Jul 13
- Race won
- Mullingar INH Flat Race
- 2/1412 Sep 11 · Listowel (IRE)
Bank Of Ireland 4yo INH Flat Race
All fields
- Date
- 12 Sep 11
- Course
- Listowel (IRE)
- Race
- Bank Of Ireland 4yo INH Flat Race
- This horse
- 2/14
- Winner next time
- Missunited (IRE)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 26 Oct 11
- Race won
- Thoroughbred County Mares INH Flat Race
- 2/142 Jun 11 · Tipperary (IRE)
Social Clubs 4yo INH Flat Race
All fields
- Date
- 2 Jun 11
- Course
- Tipperary (IRE)
- Race
- Social Clubs 4yo INH Flat Race
- This horse
- 2/14
- Winner next time
- Kilbarry Classic (IRE)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 5 Jul 11
- Race won
- Boyle Mares Ladies INH Flat Race
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| C Roche | 17 Apr 11 | 9 Jul 13 | 11/17 | 7 | 0 | 2 | 0 | £0 | €3,200 |
C Roche
- Trainer
- C Roche
- First run
- 17 Apr 11
- Last run
- 9 Jul 13
- First run for yard
- 11/17
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €3,200
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 7 | 0 | 2 | 0 | £0 | €3,200 | 17 Apr 11 | 9 Jul 13 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €3,200
- First run
- 17 Apr 11
- Last run
- 9 Jul 13
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| NH Flat | 4 | 0 | 2 | 0 | £0 | €3,200 |
Hurdle
- Race type
- Hurdle
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
NH Flat
- Race type
- NH Flat
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €3,200
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Good | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £0 | €1,600 | ||
| Good to Yielding | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Yielding to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £0 | €1,600 |
Good to Firm
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,600
Good to Yielding
- Going
- Good to Yielding
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Yielding to Soft
- Going
- Yielding to Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Soft
- Going
- Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,600
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m to 2m1f | 6 | 0 | 2 | 0 | £0 | €3,200 | ||
| 2m2f to 2m5f | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
2m to 2m1f
- Distance
- 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €3,200
2m2f to 2m5f
- Distance
- 2m2f to 2m5f
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Kilbeggan (IRE) | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Tipperary (IRE) | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £0 | €1,600 | ||
| Gowran Park (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Listowel (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £0 | €1,600 | ||
| Roscommon (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Kilbeggan (IRE)
- Course
- Kilbeggan (IRE)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Tipperary (IRE)
- Course
- Tipperary (IRE)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,600
Gowran Park (IRE)
- Course
- Gowran Park (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Listowel (IRE)
- Course
- Listowel (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,600
Roscommon (IRE)
- Course
- Roscommon (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Non-handicap (unclassified) | 7 | 0 | 2 | 0 | £0 | €3,200 |
Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €3,200
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 9 to 12 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 13 to 16 runners | 3 | 0 | 2 | 0 | £0 | €3,200 | ||
| 17+ runners | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
13 to 16 runners
- Runners
- 13 to 16 runners
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €3,200
17+ runners
- Runners
- 17+ runners
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| April | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| May | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| June | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £0 | €1,600 | ||
| July | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| September | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £0 | €1,600 | ||
| October | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
April
- Month
- April
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
May
- Month
- May
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
June
- Month
- June
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,600
July
- Month
- July
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
September
- Month
- September
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,600
October
- Month
- October
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mr P Roche | 3 | 0 | 2 | 0 | £0 | €3,200 | ||
| Alan Crowe | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| C J Bailey | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Jody McGarvey | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Mr P Roche
- Jockey
- Mr P Roche
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €3,200
Alan Crowe
- Jockey
- Alan Crowe
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
C J Bailey
- Jockey
- C J Bailey
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Jody McGarvey
- Jockey
- Jody McGarvey
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| C Roche | 7 | 0 | 2 | 0 | £0 | €3,200 |
C Roche
- Trainer
- C Roche
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €3,200
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 4 | 0 | 2 | 0 | £0 | €3,200 | ||
| tp | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| p | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €3,200
tp
- Headgear
- tp
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
p
- Headgear
- p
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £0 | €1,600 | ||
| 61 to 120 days | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £0 | €1,600 | ||
| Over a year | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,600
61 to 120 days
- Days since last run
- 61 to 120 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,600
Over a year
- Days since last run
- Over a year
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
By first-time headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| First time in any headgear | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| First time cheekpieces | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| First time tongue strap | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Headgear, all items worn before | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| No headgear | 4 | 0 | 2 | 0 | £0 | €3,200 |
First time in any headgear
- Headgear
- First time in any headgear
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
First time cheekpieces
- Headgear
- First time cheekpieces
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
First time tongue strap
- Headgear
- First time tongue strap
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear, all items worn before
- Headgear
- Headgear, all items worn before
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €3,200
A run can count in more than one "first time" row (e.g. first-time blinkers and first headgear of any kind). First time is judged against earlier British and Irish runs only.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchHigh Chaparral (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireSadler's Wells (USA)
- Sire's damKasora (IRE)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchForest Lair (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireHabitat (USA)
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
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Breeding card
HorseDeep Determination (IRE)
Sexgelding
Foaled2007
SireHigh Chaparral (IRE)
DamForest Lair (GB)
DamsireHabitat (USA)
Sire's sireSadler's Wells (USA)
Sire's damKasora (IRE)
Dam's produce10 winners from 17 runners
Notable siblingMuakaad (GB)
Female line
- Forest Lair (GB) · 10 winners from 17 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| High Chaparral (IRE) | Forest Lair (GB) | Habitat (USA) | gelding | Flat 10.3f · NH 2m2f | Flat 8.4f · NH 2m3f |
High Chaparral (IRE)
- Damsire
- Habitat (USA)
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 10.3f · NH 2m2f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 8.4f · NH 2m3f
Progeny of High Chaparral (IRE) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 2,662 | 253 | 689 | 7 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f | 1,483 | 159 | 437 | 6 | 0 | ||
| On Good going | 1,067 | 96 | 274 | 3 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f on Good going | 547 | 58 | 159 | 3 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 2,662
- Wins
- 253
- Placed
- 689
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 7
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 1,483
- Wins
- 159
- Placed
- 437
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 6
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good going
- Condition
- On Good going
- Runs
- 1,067
- Wins
- 96
- Placed
- 274
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good going
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f on Good going
- Runs
- 547
- Wins
- 58
- Placed
- 159
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
High Chaparral (IRE) × Habitat mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 0 | 2 | £0 | €3,200 | ||
| Flat | 1 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 0 | 2 | £1,095 | €0 | ||
| All runs | 2 | 0 | 0 | 13 | 0 | 4 | £1,095 | €3,200 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €3,200
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,095
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
All runs
- Code
- All runs
- Runners
- 2
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 13
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 4
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,095
- Prize IRE (€)
- €3,200
All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Trawlerman I (IRE) | 6 | 0 | 0 | £1,095 | €0 |
| Deep Determination (IRE) | 7 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €3,200 |
Trawlerman I (IRE)
- Horse
- Trawlerman I (IRE)
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,095
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Deep Determination (IRE)
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €3,200
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 10 winners from 17 runners
Full siblings
- Trawlerman I (IRE)0W · 6R
Half siblings
By Doyoun (GB)
- Kuddam (IRE)0W · 8R
By Be My Guest (USA)
- Kuwah (IRE)1W · 6R
- Layik (IRE)3W · 21R
By Caerleon (USA)
- Munif (IRE)7W · 26R
By Marju (IRE)
- Manarah (GB)1W · 7R
By Unfuwain (USA)
- Rajjaaf (GB)2W · 7R
- Suhaad (GB)2W · 3R · 1 black-type
By Muhtarram (USA)
- Muakaad (GB)6W · 10R · 4 black-type
- Foxes Lair (IRE)0W · 10R
By Ashkalani (IRE)
- Rowan Flower (IRE)1W · 9R
By Alzao (USA)
- Alagon (IRE)3W · 22R
- Pax Romana (IRE)1W · 7R
By Grand Lodge (USA)
- Bint Al Hammour (IRE)0W · 4R
By Barathea (IRE)
- Redwood Forest (IRE)0W · 4R
By King's Best (USA)
- Danny's Best (IRE)0W · 2R
Female line
- 1Forest Lair (GB)
Notable relatives
Half-brother
- Muakaad (GB)6W · 10R · 4 black-type
Half-sister
- Suhaad (GB)2W · 3R · 1 black-type
In brief
When was Deep Determination foaled?
Deep Determination (IRE) was foaled in 2007.
Who are the sire and dam of Deep Determination?
Deep Determination (IRE) is by High Chaparral (IRE) out of Forest Lair (GB), a daughter of Habitat (USA).
Who trained Deep Determination?
Deep Determination (IRE) was trained by C Roche and owned by Michael A O'Riordan at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Deep Determination's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Deep Determination (IRE) ran 7 times without winning.
Is Deep Determination still racing?
Deep Determination (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 9 July 2013 at Roscommon (IRE) in the Martinstown Opportunity Maiden Hurdle, finishing 11th of 18, and has not run there since.
Is Deep Determination related to any top horses?
Deep Determination (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Muakaad (GB) (half-brother, Group 3 winner) and Suhaad (GB) (half-sister, Listed winner), from the Forest Lair (GB) family.
What is Deep Determination's record at Kilbeggan (IRE)?
Deep Determination (IRE) ran most often at Kilbeggan (IRE), with no wins from 2 runs there.
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