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Where With All

Montjeu (IRE) × Zelding (IRE) (Warning (GB))
Sex
gelding
Foaled
2002
Record (GB & IRE)
2 wins from 3 runs (67%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£10,810 GB
Last run (GB & IRE)
19 Jul 2004, Beverley (1/8)
Recent form
171

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
19 Jul 04Beverley1/85/2won 6Kerrin McEvoySaeed bin SuroorEuropean Breeders Fund UBC Novice Stakes Class DClass 4Flat Turf7½fGood to Soft9-5Blue Prince (USA)£4,953302/6
19 Jun 04Ascot7/115/114Frankie DettoriSaeed bin SuroorChesham StakesListedFlat Turf7fFirm9-0Whazzat (GB)£23,200152/10
4 Jun 04Haydock1/10100/30won 2½Kerrin McEvoySaeed bin SuroorDavid Reilly's Getting Hitched EBF Maiden Stakes Class DClass 4Flat Turf6fGood to Soft9-0Wasalat (USA)£5,857-0/9
  • 1/819 Jul 04 · Beverley5/2

    European Breeders Fund UBC Novice Stakes Class D

    Class 47½fGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    19 Jul 04
    Course
    Beverley
    Pos
    1/8
    SP
    5/2
    Btn
    won 6
    Race
    European Breeders Fund UBC Novice Stakes Class D
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    7½f
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    9-5
    Winner / 2nd
    Blue Prince (USA)
    Winner prize
    £4,953
    Days
    30
    Future form
    2/6
  • 7/1119 Jun 04 · Ascot5/1

    Chesham Stakes

    Listed7fFirm

    All fields
    Date
    19 Jun 04
    Course
    Ascot
    Pos
    7/11
    SP
    5/1
    Btn
    14
    Race
    Chesham Stakes
    Class
    Listed
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    7f
    Going
    Firm
    Wgt
    9-0
    Winner / 2nd
    Whazzat (GB)
    Winner prize
    £23,200
    Days
    15
    Future form
    2/10
  • 1/104 Jun 04 · Haydock100/30

    David Reilly's Getting Hitched EBF Maiden Stakes Class D

    Class 46fGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    4 Jun 04
    Course
    Haydock
    Pos
    1/10
    SP
    100/30
    Btn
    won 2½
    Race
    David Reilly's Getting Hitched EBF Maiden Stakes Class D
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    6f
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    9-0
    Winner / 2nd
    Wasalat (USA)
    Winner prize
    £5,857
    Days
    -
    Future form
    0/9

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
19 Jul 04BeverleyEuropean Breeders Fund UBC Novice Stakes Class D1/8Viva Pataca (GB)411 Sep 04ChesterHallows Associates Nursery
19 Jul 04BeverleyEuropean Breeders Fund UBC Novice Stakes Class D1/8Doctor's Cave (GB)727 Jul 04GoodwoodEvening Standard EBF Maiden Stakes (Colts & Geldings)
19 Jun 04AscotChesham Stakes (Listed Race)7/11Brecon Beacon (GB)230 Jul 04Newmarket (July)turftours.com For Sporting Hospitality Conditions Stakes Class C
19 Jun 04AscotChesham Stakes (Listed Race)7/11John Forbes (GB)926 Jun 04NewcastleKronenbourg 1664 EBF Maiden Stakes Class D
  • 1/819 Jul 04 · Beverley

    European Breeders Fund UBC Novice Stakes Class D

    All fields
    Date
    19 Jul 04
    Course
    Beverley
    Race
    European Breeders Fund UBC Novice Stakes Class D
    This horse
    1/8
    Winner next time
    Viva Pataca (GB)
    Their pos
    4
    Won on
    11 Sep 04
    Race won
    Hallows Associates Nursery
  • 1/819 Jul 04 · Beverley

    European Breeders Fund UBC Novice Stakes Class D

    All fields
    Date
    19 Jul 04
    Course
    Beverley
    Race
    European Breeders Fund UBC Novice Stakes Class D
    This horse
    1/8
    Winner next time
    Doctor's Cave (GB)
    Their pos
    7
    Won on
    27 Jul 04
    Race won
    Evening Standard EBF Maiden Stakes (Colts & Geldings)
  • 7/1119 Jun 04 · Ascot

    Chesham Stakes (Listed Race)

    All fields
    Date
    19 Jun 04
    Course
    Ascot
    Race
    Chesham Stakes (Listed Race)
    This horse
    7/11
    Winner next time
    Brecon Beacon (GB)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    30 Jul 04
    At
    Newmarket (July)
    Race won
    turftours.com For Sporting Hospitality Conditions Stakes Class C
  • 7/1119 Jun 04 · Ascot

    Chesham Stakes (Listed Race)

    All fields
    Date
    19 Jun 04
    Course
    Ascot
    Race
    Chesham Stakes (Listed Race)
    This horse
    7/11
    Winner next time
    John Forbes (GB)
    Their pos
    9
    Won on
    26 Jun 04
    Race won
    Kronenbourg 1664 EBF Maiden Stakes Class D

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Saeed bin Suroor4 Jun 0419 Jul 041/10320066.7%66.7%£10,810€0
Saeed bin Suroor
First run
4 Jun 04
Last run
19 Jul 04
First run for yard
1/10
Runs
3
Wins
2
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
66.7%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£10,810
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)First runLast run
Flat320066.7%66.7%£10,810€04 Jun 0419 Jul 04
Flat
Code
Flat
Runs
3
Wins
2
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
66.7%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£10,810
Prize IRE (€)
€0
First run
4 Jun 04
Last run
19 Jul 04

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Flat Turf320066.7%66.7%£10,810€0
Flat Turf
Race type
Flat Turf
Runs
3
Wins
2
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
66.7%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£10,810
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Firm10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Good to Soft2200100.0%100.0%£10,810€0
Firm
Going
Firm
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good to Soft
Going
Good to Soft
Runs
2
Wins
2
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£10,810
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
5f to 6f1100100.0%100.0%£5,857€0
7f to 1m210050.0%50.0%£4,953€0
5f to 6f
Distance
5f to 6f
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£5,857
Prize IRE (€)
€0
7f to 1m
Distance
7f to 1m
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,953
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Beverley1100100.0%100.0%£4,953€0
Haydock1100100.0%100.0%£5,857€0
Ascot10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Beverley
Course
Beverley
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,953
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Haydock
Course
Haydock
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£5,857
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Ascot
Course
Ascot
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Listed10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Class 42200100.0%100.0%£10,810€0
Listed
Class
Listed
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Class 4
Class
Class 4
Runs
2
Wins
2
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£10,810
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
9 to 12 runners210050.0%50.0%£5,857€0
6 to 8 runners1100100.0%100.0%£4,953€0
9 to 12 runners
Runners
9 to 12 runners
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£5,857
Prize IRE (€)
€0
6 to 8 runners
Runners
6 to 8 runners
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,953
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
June210050.0%50.0%£5,857€0
July1100100.0%100.0%£4,953€0
June
Month
June
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£5,857
Prize IRE (€)
€0
July
Month
July
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,953
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Kerrin McEvoy2200100.0%100.0%£10,810€0
Frankie Dettori10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Kerrin McEvoy
Runs
2
Wins
2
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£10,810
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Frankie Dettori
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Saeed bin Suroor320066.7%66.7%£10,810€0
Saeed bin Suroor
Runs
3
Wins
2
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
66.7%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£10,810
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear320066.7%66.7%£10,810€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
3
Wins
2
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
66.7%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£10,810
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run1100100.0%100.0%£5,857€0
15 to 30 days210050.0%50.0%£4,953€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£5,857
Prize IRE (€)
€0
15 to 30 days
Days since last run
15 to 30 days
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,953
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchMontjeu (IRE)

Parent · 1

  1. SireMontjeu (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireSadler's Wells (USA)
  2. Sire's damFloripedes (FR)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchZelding (IRE)

Parent · 1

  1. DamZelding (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireWarning (GB)
  2. Dam's damZelda (IRE)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Montjeu (IRE)
Zelding (IRE)
Sadler's Wells (USA)
Floripedes (FR)
Warning (GB)
Zelda (IRE)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseWhere With All (IRE)
Sexgelding
Foaled2002
SireMontjeu (IRE)
DamZelding (IRE)
DamsireWarning (GB)
Sire's sireSadler's Wells (USA)
Sire's damFloripedes (FR)
2nd damZelda (IRE)
Dam's produce4 winners from 5 runners
Notable siblingBeauty Is Truth (IRE)

Female line

  1. Zelding (IRE) · by Warning (GB) · 4 winners from 5 runners
  2. Zelda (IRE) · 1 winners from 4 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Montjeu (IRE)Zelding (IRE)Warning (GB)geldingFlat 11.2f · NH 2m2fFlat 7.9f · NH 2m1½f
Montjeu (IRE)
Sex
gelding
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 11.2f · NH 2m2f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 7.9f · NH 2m1½f

Progeny of Montjeu (IRE) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All Flat runs5,5657001,70312.6%30.6%32
At 7f to 1m1,09912031210.9%28.4%21
On Good to soft or yielding going7849726012.4%33.2%22
At 7f to 1m on Good to soft or yielding going160174810.6%30.0%11
All Flat runs
Condition
All Flat runs
Runs
5,565
Wins
700
Placed
1,703
Win %
12.6%
Place %
30.6%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
2
At 7f to 1m
Condition
At 7f to 1m
Runs
1,099
Wins
120
Placed
312
Win %
10.9%
Place %
28.4%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
1
On Good to soft or yielding going
Condition
On Good to soft or yielding going
Runs
784
Wins
97
Placed
260
Win %
12.4%
Place %
33.2%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
2
At 7f to 1m on Good to soft or yielding going
Condition
At 7f to 1m on Good to soft or yielding going
Runs
160
Wins
17
Placed
48
Win %
10.6%
Place %
30.0%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
1

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Montjeu (IRE) × Warning mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Flat7685.7%0103181817.5%£117,646€40,601
National Hunt100.0%02000.0%£0€0
All runs7685.7%0105181817.1%£117,646€40,601
Flat
Code
Flat
Runners
7
Winners
6
Winners %
85.7%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
103
Wins
18
2nd/3rd
18
Win %
17.5%
Prize GB (£)
£117,646
Prize IRE (€)
€40,601
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
1
Winners
0
Winners %
0.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd/3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
All runs
Code
All runs
Runners
7
Winners
6
Winners %
85.7%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
105
Wins
18
2nd/3rd
18
Win %
17.1%
Prize GB (£)
£117,646
Prize IRE (€)
€40,601

All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Steve Rogers (IRE)2060£57,440€0
Fire In Babylon (IRE)5060£16,681€0
Where With All (IRE)320£10,810€0
Miss Keller (IRE)720£0€40,601
Ozone Trustee (NZ)1010£3,815€0
Three Moons (IRE)1410£28,900€0
Mystic Melody (IRE)100£0€0
Steve Rogers (IRE)
Runs
20
Wins
6
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£57,440
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Fire In Babylon (IRE)
Runs
50
Wins
6
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£16,681
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Where With All (IRE)
Runs
3
Wins
2
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£10,810
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Miss Keller (IRE)
Runs
7
Wins
2
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€40,601
Ozone Trustee (NZ)
Runs
10
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£3,815
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Three Moons (IRE)
Runs
14
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£28,900
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Mystic Melody (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Family

Dam summary

Zelding (IRE)

G1 winners
0
Produce
4 winners from 5 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Montjeu (IRE) out of Zelding (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Pivotal (GB)

By Dubai Destination (USA)

By Teofilo (IRE)

By Rip Van Winkle (IRE)

Female line

  1. 1Zelding (IRE) · by Warning (GB)
  2. 2Zelda (IRE)

Notable relatives

Niece (out of a sibling)

Great-niece

Great-nephew

Nephew (out of a sibling)

View full Zelda family

In brief

When was Where With All foaled?

Where With All (IRE) was foaled in 2002.

Who are the sire and dam of Where With All?

Where With All (IRE) is by Montjeu (IRE) out of Zelding (IRE), a daughter of Warning (GB).

Who trained Where With All?

Where With All (IRE) was trained by Saeed bin Suroor and owned by Godolphin at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Where With All's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Where With All (IRE) won 2 of 3 races (67%). Runs abroad (for example in France, Dubai or the USA) are not included.

What is Where With All's biggest win?

Where With All (IRE)'s biggest wins in Britain and Ireland were 2 Class 4 victories, most recently the European Breeders Fund UBC Novice Stakes Class D at Beverley on 19 July 2004.

Has Where With All ever been beaten?

Where With All (IRE) was beaten once in 3 runs in Britain and Ireland, on 19 June 2004 at Ascot (7th of 11).

Is Where With All still racing?

Where With All (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 19 July 2004 at Beverley in the European Breeders Fund UBC Novice Stakes Class D, finishing 1st of 8, and has not run there since.

Is Where With All related to any top horses?

Where With All (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Whirl (IRE) (great-niece, Group 1 winner), Hydrangea (IRE) (niece, Group 1 winner) and Hermosa (IRE) (niece, Group 1 winner), from the Zelda (IRE) family.

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