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Horse profile
Whatsbehind
- TrainerC A Murphy
- OwnerGermaines Top Lounge Syndicate
- FamilySapphire Red
- Sex
- filly
- Foaled
- 2004
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 3 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 15 Oct 2008, Punchestown (IRE) (11/20)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 15 Oct 08 | Punchestown (IRE) | 11/20 | 20/1 | dist | M P Fogarty | C A Murphy | Thoroughbred County (Mares) INH Flat Race | Non-handicap (unclassified) | NH Flat | 2m | Soft to Heavy | 10-5 | Back Me Up (IRE) | €8,292 | 124 | 0/19 |
| 13 Jun 08 | Clonmel (IRE) | 9/17 | 8/1 | 14¾ | M P Fogarty | C A Murphy | Nore Valley INH Flat Race | Non-handicap (unclassified) | NH Flat | 2m | Firm | 10-9 | Phantom Belle (FR) | €5,874 | 20 | 0/15 |
| 24 May 08 | Tralee (IRE) | 7/20 | 12/1 | 10½ | M P Fogarty | C A Murphy | Racing Here Tomorrow Mares (Pro/Am) INH Flat Race | Non-handicap (unclassified) | NH Flat | 2m | Good to Yielding | 10-8 | Lady Lenson (IRE) | €5,874 | - | 2/17 |
Thoroughbred County (Mares) INH Flat Race
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mSoft to Heavy
All fields
- Date
- 15 Oct 08
- Course
- Punchestown (IRE)
- Pos
- 11/20
- SP
- 20/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- M P Fogarty
- Trainer
- C A Murphy
- Race
- Thoroughbred County (Mares) INH Flat Race
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Soft to Heavy
- Wgt
- 10-5
- Winner / 2nd
- Back Me Up (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €8,292
- Days
- 124
- Future form
- 0/19
Nore Valley INH Flat Race
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mFirm
All fields
- Date
- 13 Jun 08
- Course
- Clonmel (IRE)
- Pos
- 9/17
- SP
- 8/1
- Btn
- 14¾
- Jockey
- M P Fogarty
- Trainer
- C A Murphy
- Race
- Nore Valley INH Flat Race
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Firm
- Wgt
- 10-9
- Winner / 2nd
- Phantom Belle (FR)
- Winner prize
- €5,874
- Days
- 20
- Future form
- 0/15
- 7/2024 May 08 · Tralee (IRE)12/1
Racing Here Tomorrow Mares (Pro/Am) INH Flat Race
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mGood to Yielding
All fields
- Date
- 24 May 08
- Course
- Tralee (IRE)
- Pos
- 7/20
- SP
- 12/1
- Btn
- 10½
- Jockey
- M P Fogarty
- Trainer
- C A Murphy
- Race
- Racing Here Tomorrow Mares (Pro/Am) INH Flat Race
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Good to Yielding
- Wgt
- 10-8
- Winner / 2nd
- Lady Lenson (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €5,874
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 2/17
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 24 May 08 | Tralee (IRE) | Racing Here Tomorrow Mares (Pro/Am) INH Flat Race | 7/20 | Goldfeather (IRE) | 3 | 6 Jun 08 | Wexford (RH) (IRE) | Bettyville Mares INH Flat Race |
| 24 May 08 | Tralee (IRE) | Racing Here Tomorrow Mares (Pro/Am) INH Flat Race | 7/20 | Asigh Pearl (IRE) | 6 | 31 Dec 08 | Punchestown (IRE) | INH Festival Tickets (Mares) Irish National Hunt Flat Race |
- 7/2024 May 08 · Tralee (IRE)
Racing Here Tomorrow Mares (Pro/Am) INH Flat Race
All fields
- Date
- 24 May 08
- Course
- Tralee (IRE)
- Race
- Racing Here Tomorrow Mares (Pro/Am) INH Flat Race
- This horse
- 7/20
- Winner next time
- Goldfeather (IRE)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 6 Jun 08
- At
- Wexford (RH) (IRE)
- Race won
- Bettyville Mares INH Flat Race
- 7/2024 May 08 · Tralee (IRE)
Racing Here Tomorrow Mares (Pro/Am) INH Flat Race
All fields
- Date
- 24 May 08
- Course
- Tralee (IRE)
- Race
- Racing Here Tomorrow Mares (Pro/Am) INH Flat Race
- This horse
- 7/20
- Winner next time
- Asigh Pearl (IRE)
- Their pos
- 6
- Won on
- 31 Dec 08
- Race won
- INH Festival Tickets (Mares) Irish National Hunt Flat Race
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| C A Murphy | 24 May 08 | 15 Oct 08 | 7/20 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
C A Murphy
- Trainer
- C A Murphy
- First run
- 24 May 08
- Last run
- 15 Oct 08
- First run for yard
- 7/20
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 24 May 08 | 15 Oct 08 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 24 May 08
- Last run
- 15 Oct 08
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| NH Flat | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
NH Flat
- Race type
- NH Flat
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Good to Yielding | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Soft to Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Firm
- Going
- Firm
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good to Yielding
- Going
- Good to Yielding
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Soft to Heavy
- Going
- Soft to Heavy
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m to 2m1f | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
2m to 2m1f
- Distance
- 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Clonmel (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Punchestown (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Tralee (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Clonmel (IRE)
- Course
- Clonmel (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Punchestown (IRE)
- Course
- Punchestown (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Tralee (IRE)
- Course
- Tralee (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Non-handicap (unclassified) | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 17+ runners | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
17+ runners
- Runners
- 17+ runners
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| May | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| June | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| October | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
May
- Month
- May
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
June
- Month
- June
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
October
- Month
- October
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| M P Fogarty | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
M P Fogarty
- Jockey
- M P Fogarty
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| C A Murphy | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
C A Murphy
- Trainer
- C A Murphy
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 121 to 365 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
121 to 365 days
- Days since last run
- 121 to 365 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchSaddlers' Hall (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireSadler's Wells (USA)
- Sire's damSunny Valley (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchWaterloo Park (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireAlphabatim (USA)
- Dam's damWaterloo Sunset I (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireDeep Run (GB)
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Waterloo Park (IRE) · by Alphabatim (USA) · 1 winners from 4 runners
- Waterloo Sunset I (GB) · by Deep Run (GB) · 3 winners from 4 runners
- Sapphire Red (GB) · 2 winners from 7 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Saddlers' Hall (IRE) | Waterloo Park (IRE) | Alphabatim (USA) | filly | Flat 11.2f · NH 2m4f | Flat 11.3f · NH 2m2½f |
Saddlers' Hall (IRE)
- Damsire
- Alphabatim (USA)
- Sex
- filly
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 11.2f · NH 2m4f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 11.3f · NH 2m2½f
Progeny of Saddlers' Hall (IRE) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 7,348 | 606 | 1,684 | 3 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f | 2,359 | 185 | 520 | 3 | 0 | ||
| On Good going | 2,219 | 191 | 503 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f on Good going | 648 | 63 | 153 | 1 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 7,348
- Wins
- 606
- Placed
- 1,684
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 2,359
- Wins
- 185
- Placed
- 520
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good going
- Condition
- On Good going
- Runs
- 2,219
- Wins
- 191
- Placed
- 503
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good going
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f on Good going
- Runs
- 648
- Wins
- 63
- Placed
- 153
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Saddlers' Hall (IRE) × Alphabatim mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 2 | 0 | 0 | 14 | 0 | 1 | £280 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 2
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 14
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £280
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Whatsbehind (IRE) | 3 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
| Downe Payment (IRE) | 11 | 0 | 0 | £280 | €0 |
Whatsbehind (IRE)
- Horse
- Whatsbehind (IRE)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Downe Payment (IRE)
- Horse
- Downe Payment (IRE)
- Runs
- 11
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £280
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 1 winners from 4 runners
Full siblings
- Downe Payment (IRE)0W · 11R
Half siblings
By Snurge (IRE)
- You Must Know Me (IRE)3W · 18R
- Merville Arts (IRE)0W · 2R
Female line
- 1Waterloo Park (IRE) · by Alphabatim (USA)
- 2Waterloo Sunset I (GB) · by Deep Run (GB)
- 3Sapphire Red (GB)
Notable relatives
Great-uncle (out of 3rd dam)
- Waterloo Boy (GB)9W · 28R · 1 black-type
In brief
When was Whatsbehind foaled?
Whatsbehind (IRE) was foaled in 2004.
Who are the sire and dam of Whatsbehind?
Whatsbehind (IRE) is by Saddlers' Hall (IRE) out of Waterloo Park (IRE), a daughter of Alphabatim (USA).
Who trained Whatsbehind?
Whatsbehind (IRE) was trained by C A Murphy and owned by Germaines Top Lounge Syndicate at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Whatsbehind's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Whatsbehind (IRE) ran 3 times without winning.
Is Whatsbehind still racing?
Whatsbehind (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 15 October 2008 at Punchestown (IRE) in the Thoroughbred County (Mares) INH Flat Race, finishing 11th of 20, and has not run there since.
Is Whatsbehind related to any top horses?
Whatsbehind (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Waterloo Boy (GB) (great-uncle, Grade 2 winner), from the Sapphire Red (GB) family.
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