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Horse profile
Them And Us (GB)
- TrainerPeter McCreery
- OwnerMrs P D McCreery
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 1986
See also: Them And Us (IRE) · Michael Bell · 12 runs · 3 wins
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 3 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 6 May 1994, Downpatrick (IRE) (PU/14)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6 May 94 | Downpatrick (IRE) | PU/14 | 25/1 | - | D Walsh | Peter McCreery | Parce Puer Stimulis Novice Chase | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Chase | 2m2f | Good | 11-4 | Alterezza (USA) | 746 | 0/11 |
| 20 Apr 92 | Fairyhouse (IRE) | PU/15 | 20/1 | - | T J Taaffe | A L T Moore | Brown Thomas Novice Chase | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Chase | 2m2f | Yielding | 11-9 | Captain Brandy (GB) | 457 | 2/13 |
| 19 Jan 91 | Punchestown (IRE) | 17/19 | 33/1 | 17¼ | Mr M I Sheppard | A L T Moore | Brannockstown Maiden Hurdle | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m | Heavy | 10-9 | Joe's A Boy (GB) | - | 1/18 |
Parce Puer Stimulis Novice Chase
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m2fGood
All fields
- Date
- 6 May 94
- Course
- Downpatrick (IRE)
- Pos
- PU/14
- SP
- 25/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- D Walsh
- Trainer
- Peter McCreery
- Race
- Parce Puer Stimulis Novice Chase
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Chase
- Dist
- 2m2f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 11-4
- Winner / 2nd
- Alterezza (USA)
- Days
- 746
- Future form
- 0/11
Brown Thomas Novice Chase
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m2fYielding
All fields
- Date
- 20 Apr 92
- Course
- Fairyhouse (IRE)
- Pos
- PU/15
- SP
- 20/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- T J Taaffe
- Trainer
- A L T Moore
- Race
- Brown Thomas Novice Chase
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Chase
- Dist
- 2m2f
- Going
- Yielding
- Wgt
- 11-9
- Winner / 2nd
- Captain Brandy (GB)
- Days
- 457
- Future form
- 2/13
Brannockstown Maiden Hurdle
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mHeavy
All fields
- Date
- 19 Jan 91
- Course
- Punchestown (IRE)
- Pos
- 17/19
- SP
- 33/1
- Btn
- 17¼
- Jockey
- Mr M I Sheppard
- Trainer
- A L T Moore
- Race
- Brannockstown Maiden Hurdle
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Heavy
- Wgt
- 10-9
- Winner / 2nd
- Joe's A Boy (GB)
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 1/18
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 20 Apr 92 | Fairyhouse (IRE) | Brown Thomas Novice Chase | PU/15 | Flustered (USA) | 7 | 21 May 92 | Clonmel (IRE) | Holycross Novice Chase |
| 20 Apr 92 | Fairyhouse (IRE) | Brown Thomas Novice Chase | PU/15 | Donarthy (GB) | 11 | 7 May 92 | Tipperary (IRE) | Chestnut Novice Chase |
| 19 Jan 91 | Punchestown (IRE) | Brannockstown Maiden Hurdle | 17/19 | Inca Chief I (GB) | 3 | 2 Feb 91 | Fairyhouse (IRE) | Fanmond Maiden Hurdle (Div. III) |
- PU/1520 Apr 92 · Fairyhouse (IRE)
Brown Thomas Novice Chase
All fields
- Date
- 20 Apr 92
- Course
- Fairyhouse (IRE)
- Race
- Brown Thomas Novice Chase
- This horse
- PU/15
- Winner next time
- Flustered (USA)
- Their pos
- 7
- Won on
- 21 May 92
- Race won
- Holycross Novice Chase
- PU/1520 Apr 92 · Fairyhouse (IRE)
Brown Thomas Novice Chase
All fields
- Date
- 20 Apr 92
- Course
- Fairyhouse (IRE)
- Race
- Brown Thomas Novice Chase
- This horse
- PU/15
- Winner next time
- Donarthy (GB)
- Their pos
- 11
- Won on
- 7 May 92
- Race won
- Chestnut Novice Chase
- 17/1919 Jan 91 · Punchestown (IRE)
Brannockstown Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 19 Jan 91
- Course
- Punchestown (IRE)
- Race
- Brannockstown Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- 17/19
- Winner next time
- Inca Chief I (GB)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 2 Feb 91
- Race won
- Fanmond Maiden Hurdle (Div. III)
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | Moved from | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Peter McCreery | A L T Moore | 6 May 94 | 6 May 94 | PU/14 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| A L T Moore | - | 19 Jan 91 | 20 Apr 92 | 17/19 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Peter McCreery
- Trainer
- Peter McCreery
- Moved from
- A L T Moore
- First run
- 6 May 94
- Last run
- 6 May 94
- First run for yard
- PU/14
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
A L T Moore
- Trainer
- A L T Moore
- First run
- 19 Jan 91
- Last run
- 20 Apr 92
- First run for yard
- 17/19
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Spells with each trainer in race order, latest first (a horse that returns to a trainer shows a new spell). From British and Irish runs since 1990.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 19 Jan 91 | 6 May 94 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 19 Jan 91
- Last run
- 6 May 94
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Chase | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Hurdle
- Race type
- Hurdle
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Chase
- Race type
- Chase
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Yielding | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Yielding
- Going
- Yielding
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Heavy
- Going
- Heavy
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m to 2m1f | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 2m2f to 2m5f | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
2m to 2m1f
- Distance
- 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
2m2f to 2m5f
- Distance
- 2m2f to 2m5f
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Downpatrick (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Fairyhouse (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Punchestown (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Downpatrick (IRE)
- Course
- Downpatrick (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Fairyhouse (IRE)
- Course
- Fairyhouse (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Punchestown (IRE)
- Course
- Punchestown (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Non-handicap (unclassified) | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 13 to 16 runners | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 17+ runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
13 to 16 runners
- Runners
- 13 to 16 runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
17+ runners
- Runners
- 17+ runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| January | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| April | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| May | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
January
- Month
- January
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
April
- Month
- April
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
May
- Month
- May
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| D Walsh | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Mr M I Sheppard | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| T J Taaffe | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
D Walsh
- Jockey
- D Walsh
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Mr M I Sheppard
- Jockey
- Mr M I Sheppard
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
T J Taaffe
- Jockey
- T J Taaffe
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| A L T Moore | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Peter McCreery | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
A L T Moore
- Trainer
- A L T Moore
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Peter McCreery
- Trainer
- Peter McCreery
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Over a year | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Over a year
- Days since last run
- Over a year
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchGleason II (USA)
Parent · 1
- SireGleason II (USA)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchMainham (GB)
Parent · 1
- DamMainham (GB)
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireBoreen (FR)
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Mainham (GB) · 0 winners from 3 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Gleason II (USA) | Mainham (GB) | Boreen (FR) | gelding | NH 2m4½f | Flat 13.3f · NH 2m5f |
Gleason II (USA)
- Sire
- Gleason II (USA)
- Dam
- Mainham (GB)
- Damsire
- Boreen (FR)
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- NH 2m4½f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 13.3f · NH 2m5f
Progeny of Gleason II (USA) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 367 | 22 | 67 | 3 | 0 | ||
| At 2m2f to 2m5f | 111 | 4 | 23 | 2 | 0 | ||
| On Good to soft or yielding going | 77 | 8 | 16 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 2m2f to 2m5f on Good to soft or yielding going | 15 | 1 | 5 | 1 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 367
- Wins
- 22
- Placed
- 67
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m2f to 2m5f
- Condition
- At 2m2f to 2m5f
- Runs
- 111
- Wins
- 4
- Placed
- 23
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good to soft or yielding going
- Condition
- On Good to soft or yielding going
- Runs
- 77
- Wins
- 8
- Placed
- 16
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Good to soft or yielding going
- Condition
- At 2m2f to 2m5f on Good to soft or yielding going
- Runs
- 15
- Wins
- 1
- Placed
- 5
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Gleason II (USA) × Boreen mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Them And Us (GB) | 3 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Them And Us (GB)
- Horse
- Them And Us (GB)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 0 winners from 3 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Gleason II (USA) out of Mainham (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Cataldi (GB)
- Creevagh Lass (IRE)0W · 9R
By Carefree Dancer (USA)
- Carefree Legend (IRE)0W · 8R
Female line
- 1Mainham (GB)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Them And Us foaled?
Them And Us (GB) was foaled in 1986.
Who are the sire and dam of Them And Us?
Them And Us (GB) is by Gleason II (USA) out of Mainham (GB), a daughter of Boreen (FR).
Who trained Them And Us?
Them And Us (GB) was trained by Peter McCreery and owned by Mrs P D McCreery at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland, having also run for A L T Moore.
What is Them And Us' race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Them And Us (GB) ran 3 times without winning.
Is Them And Us still racing?
Them And Us (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 6 May 1994 at Downpatrick (IRE) in the Parce Puer Stimulis Novice Chase (result: pulled up, 14 ran), and has not run there since.
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