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Thatwasthen (IRE) silks

Horse profile

Thatwasthen

Mahler (GB) × Jacksister (IRE) (Flemensfirth (USA))
Sex
mare
Foaled
2012
Record (GB & IRE)
0 wins from 4 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£0
Last run (GB & IRE)
8 Oct 2018, Tipperary (IRE) (PU/14)
Last win (GB & IRE)
Never won
Recent form
12209PU

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
8 Oct 18Tipperary (IRE)PU/14100/1-L P DempseyNoel W O'NeillFollow Tipperary Races On Facebook Mares Maiden HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2m4fGood10-13Hey Groovy (IRE)€6,7762300/11
20 Feb 18Clonmel (IRE)9/12125/1distL P DempseyNoel W O'NeillSurehaul Race Day Mares Maiden HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2m2½fHeavy10-13Countess Cathleen (IRE)€6,776260/11
25 Jan 18Gowran Park (IRE)20/20100/1distL P DempseyNoel W O'NeillLangton House Hotel Maiden HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mHeavy11-5Scarpeta (FR)€8,316142/19
11 Jan 18Clonmel (IRE)12/1550/1distL P DempseyNoel W O'NeillKilsheelan Mares Maiden HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mHeavy10-13Pietralunga (FR)€6,776-0/12
  • PU/148 Oct 18 · Tipperary (IRE)100/1

    Follow Tipperary Races On Facebook Mares Maiden Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m4fGood

    All fields
    Date
    8 Oct 18
    Pos
    PU/14
    SP
    100/1
    Btn
    -
    Race
    Follow Tipperary Races On Facebook Mares Maiden Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    10-13
    Winner / 2nd
    Hey Groovy (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €6,776
    Days
    230
    Future form
    0/11
  • 9/1220 Feb 18 · Clonmel (IRE)125/1

    Surehaul Race Day Mares Maiden Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m2½fHeavy

    All fields
    Date
    20 Feb 18
    Pos
    9/12
    SP
    125/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Surehaul Race Day Mares Maiden Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m2½f
    Going
    Heavy
    Wgt
    10-13
    Winner prize
    €6,776
    Days
    26
    Future form
    0/11
  • 20/2025 Jan 18 · Gowran Park (IRE)100/1

    Langton House Hotel Maiden Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2mHeavy

    All fields
    Date
    25 Jan 18
    Pos
    20/20
    SP
    100/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Langton House Hotel Maiden Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Heavy
    Wgt
    11-5
    Winner / 2nd
    Scarpeta (FR)
    Winner prize
    €8,316
    Days
    14
    Future form
    2/19
  • 12/1511 Jan 18 · Clonmel (IRE)50/1

    Kilsheelan Mares Maiden Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2mHeavy

    All fields
    Date
    11 Jan 18
    Pos
    12/15
    SP
    50/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Kilsheelan Mares Maiden Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Heavy
    Wgt
    10-13
    Winner / 2nd
    Pietralunga (FR)
    Winner prize
    €6,776
    Days
    -
    Future form
    0/12

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
25 Jan 18Gowran Park (IRE)Langton House Hotel Maiden Hurdle20/20Cartwright (GB)210 Feb 18Naas (IRE)Paddy Hackett Memorial Maiden Hurdle
25 Jan 18Gowran Park (IRE)Langton House Hotel Maiden Hurdle20/20Whisperinthebreeze (GB)325 Feb 18Naas (IRE)Cavan Developments Home Builder Supporting Kill GAA Maiden Hurdle

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Noel W O'Neill11 Jan 188 Oct 1812/1540000.0%0.0%£0€0
Noel W O'Neill
First run
11 Jan 18
Last run
8 Oct 18
First run for yard
12/15
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)First runLast run
National Hunt40000.0%0.0%£0€011 Jan 188 Oct 18
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
First run
11 Jan 18
Last run
8 Oct 18

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Hurdle40000.0%0.0%£0€0
Hurdle
Race type
Hurdle
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Good10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Heavy30000.0%0.0%£0€0
Good
Going
Good
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Heavy
Going
Heavy
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
2m to 2m1f20000.0%0.0%£0€0
2m2f to 2m5f20000.0%0.0%£0€0
2m to 2m1f
Distance
2m to 2m1f
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
2m2f to 2m5f
Distance
2m2f to 2m5f
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Clonmel (IRE)20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Gowran Park (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Tipperary (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Clonmel (IRE)
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Gowran Park (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Tipperary (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Non-handicap (unclassified)40000.0%0.0%£0€0
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Class
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
13 to 16 runners20000.0%0.0%£0€0
9 to 12 runners10000.0%0.0%£0€0
17+ runners10000.0%0.0%£0€0
13 to 16 runners
Runners
13 to 16 runners
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
9 to 12 runners
Runners
9 to 12 runners
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
17+ runners
Runners
17+ runners
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
January20000.0%0.0%£0€0
February10000.0%0.0%£0€0
October10000.0%0.0%£0€0
January
Month
January
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
February
Month
February
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
October
Month
October
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
L P Dempsey40000.0%0.0%£0€0
L P Dempsey
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Noel W O'Neill40000.0%0.0%£0€0
Noel W O'Neill
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear40000.0%0.0%£0€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10000.0%0.0%£0€0
8 to 14 days10000.0%0.0%£0€0
15 to 30 days10000.0%0.0%£0€0
121 to 365 days10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
8 to 14 days
Days since last run
8 to 14 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
15 to 30 days
Days since last run
15 to 30 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
121 to 365 days
Days since last run
121 to 365 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchMahler (GB)

Parent · 1

  1. SireMahler (GB)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireGalileo (IRE)
  2. Sire's damRainbow Goddess (GB)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchJacksister (IRE)

Parent · 1

  1. DamJacksister (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireFlemensfirth (USA)
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Mahler (GB)
Jacksister (IRE)
Galileo (IRE)
Rainbow Goddess (GB)
Flemensfirth (USA)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseThatwasthen (IRE)
Sexmare
Foaled2012
SireMahler (GB)
DamJacksister (IRE)
DamsireFlemensfirth (USA)
Sire's sireGalileo (IRE)
Sire's damRainbow Goddess (GB)
Dam's produce1 winners from 4 runners
Notable siblingPortacarron Lady (IRE)

Female line

  1. Jacksister (IRE) · 1 winners from 4 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Mahler (GB)Jacksister (IRE)Flemensfirth (USA)mareNH 2m4½fFlat 12.1f · NH 2m4f
Mahler (GB)
Sex
mare
Sire's avg winning distance
NH 2m4½f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 12.1f · NH 2m4f

Progeny of Mahler (GB) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs8,7919532,39410.8%27.2%40
At 2m to 2m1f2,33924162010.3%26.5%20
On Heavy going9619924510.3%25.5%30
At 2m to 2m1f on Heavy going313328010.2%25.6%20
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
8,791
Wins
953
Placed
2,394
Win %
10.8%
Place %
27.2%
This horse runs
4
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f
Runs
2,339
Wins
241
Placed
620
Win %
10.3%
Place %
26.5%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
On Heavy going
Condition
On Heavy going
Runs
961
Wins
99
Placed
245
Win %
10.3%
Place %
25.5%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f on Heavy going
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f on Heavy going
Runs
313
Wins
32
Placed
80
Win %
10.2%
Place %
25.6%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Mahler (GB) × Flemensfirth mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt412663.4%25496913112.6%£613,954€277,700
Flat100.0%02000.0%£0€460
All runs412663.4%25516913112.5%£613,954€278,160
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
41
Winners
26
Winners %
63.4%
Black-type winners
2
Runs
549
Wins
69
2nd/3rd
131
Win %
12.6%
Prize GB (£)
£613,954
Prize IRE (€)
€277,700
Flat
Code
Flat
Runners
1
Winners
0
Winners %
0.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd/3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€460
All runs
Code
All runs
Runners
41
Winners
26
Winners %
63.4%
Black-type winners
2
Runs
551
Wins
69
2nd/3rd
131
Win %
12.5%
Prize GB (£)
£613,954
Prize IRE (€)
€278,160

All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsBest winPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Bill Joyce (IRE)1141Group/Grade 2£66,780€0
Ok Corral (IRE)1562Listed£121,526€1,920
Duke Of Luckley (IRE)3290-£58,072€0
Fairyhill Run (IRE)5550-£0€108,287
Wicked Thoughts (IRE)1340-£37,594€0
Bective Abbey (IRE)930-£34,490€0
I'd Like To Know (IRE)1030-£42,809€0
Galway Mahler (IRE)1430-£13,072€0
Youdecide (IRE)1530-£34,427€0
Cabhfuilfungi (IRE)2230-£39,264€320
Storm Mahler (IRE)2330-£0€26,735
Winds Of Winter (IRE)2830-£50,422€210
Bill Joyce (IRE)
Runs
11
Wins
4
Black-type wins
1
Best win
Group/Grade 2
Prize GB (£)
£66,780
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Ok Corral (IRE)
Runs
15
Wins
6
Black-type wins
2
Best win
Listed
Prize GB (£)
£121,526
Prize IRE (€)
€1,920
Duke Of Luckley (IRE)
Runs
32
Wins
9
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£58,072
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Fairyhill Run (IRE)
Runs
55
Wins
5
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€108,287
Wicked Thoughts (IRE)
Runs
13
Wins
4
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£37,594
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Bective Abbey (IRE)
Runs
9
Wins
3
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£34,490
Prize IRE (€)
€0
I'd Like To Know (IRE)
Runs
10
Wins
3
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£42,809
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Galway Mahler (IRE)
Runs
14
Wins
3
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£13,072
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Youdecide (IRE)
Runs
15
Wins
3
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£34,427
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Cabhfuilfungi (IRE)
Runs
22
Wins
3
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£39,264
Prize IRE (€)
€320
Storm Mahler (IRE)
Runs
23
Wins
3
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€26,735
Winds Of Winter (IRE)
Runs
28
Wins
3
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£50,422
Prize IRE (€)
€210

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Family

Dam summary

Jacksister (IRE)

G1 winners
0
Produce
1 winners from 4 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Mahler (GB) out of Jacksister (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Presenting (GB)

By Milan (GB)

By Beneficial (GB)

Female line

  1. 1Jacksister (IRE)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

View full Jacksister family

In brief

When was Thatwasthen foaled?

Thatwasthen (IRE) was foaled in 2012.

Who are the sire and dam of Thatwasthen?

Thatwasthen (IRE) is by Mahler (GB) out of Jacksister (IRE), a daughter of Flemensfirth (USA).

Who trained Thatwasthen?

Thatwasthen (IRE) was trained by Noel W O'Neill and owned by Mrs Breda Mulcahy at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Thatwasthen's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Thatwasthen (IRE) ran 4 times without winning.

Is Thatwasthen still racing?

Thatwasthen (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 8 October 2018 at Tipperary (IRE) in the Follow Tipperary Races On Facebook Mares Maiden Hurdle (result: pulled up, 14 ran), and has not run there since.

What is Thatwasthen's record at Clonmel (IRE)?

Thatwasthen (IRE) ran most often at Clonmel (IRE), with no wins from 2 runs there.

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