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Pas De Seul (GB) × Kind Thoughts (GB) (Kashmir II)
Sex
gelding
Foaled
1984
Highest OR
78
Record (GB & IRE)
3 wins from 11 runs (27%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£24,985 GB
Last official rating
78 (Flat)
Last run (GB & IRE)
22 Aug 1990, York (8/22)
Last win (GB & IRE)
14 Jul 1990, Chester
Recent form
66251821158

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtORHeadgearWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
22 Aug 90York8/2250/110½M WighamJ SutcliffeTote Ebor HandicapHandicap (unclassified)Flat Turf1m6fGood8-678bFurther Flight (GB)£69,893265/21
27 Jul 90Ascot5/77/211¾Pat EdderyJ SutcliffeBrown Jack HandicapHandicap (unclassified)Flat Turf2mGood to Firm9-1078bOff The Record (FR)£10,416131/6
14 Jul 90Chester1/55/4Fwon ¾M WighamJ SutcliffeWonderfuel Gas HandicapHandicap (unclassified)Flat Turf2m2½fFirm8-576bAccess Ski (GB)£6,992170/4
27 Jun 90Chester1/1111/4Fwon 5T QuinnJ SutcliffeCorbett Bookmakers Trophy HandicapHandicap (unclassified)Flat Turf2mGood8-1371bBush Hill (GB)£5,19241/10
23 Jun 90Ascot2/73/12W CarsonJ SutcliffeChef & Brewer HandicapHandicap (unclassified)Flat Turf2mGood to Soft7-1371bCastle Secret (GB)£9,00680/6
15 Jun 90Sandown8/1114/16M RobertsJ SutcliffeAllied Dunbar HandicapHandicap (unclassified)Flat Turf1m6fGood to Firm9-173bRun High (GB)£4,406762/10
31 Mar 90Warwick1/1011/4Fwon 1W CarsonJ SutcliffeCoventry Cup HandicapHandicap (unclassified)Flat Turf1m7fFirm8-1369bCaspian Mist (GB)£5,31380/9
23 Mar 90Doncaster5/126/19¾W CarsonJ SutcliffeCystic Fibrosis Research Cup Handicap StakesHandicap (unclassified)Flat Turf2m2fFirm8-370bLucky Verdict (GB)£9,600132/10
10 Mar 90Sandown2/1514/110Dale McKeownJ SutcliffeWilliam Hill Imperial Cup Handicap HurdleListedHurdle2mGood to Firm11-7137bMoody Man (GB)£16,05073/14
3 Mar 90Newbury6/1314/120Dale McKeownJ SutcliffeEastleigh Handicap HurdleHandicap (unclassified)Hurdle2m½fGood10-10137bVoyage Sans Retour (FR)£4,728300/12
1 Feb 90Lingfield (AW)6/89/222½M WighamJ SutcliffeChallenger HandicapHandicap (unclassified)Flat AW1m4fSlow9-1072bSir Rufus (GB)£2,786-2/7
  • 8/2222 Aug 90 · York50/1

    Tote Ebor Handicap

    Handicap (unclassified)1m6fGood

    All fields
    Date
    22 Aug 90
    Course
    York
    Pos
    8/22
    SP
    50/1
    Btn
    10½
    Jockey
    M Wigham
    Race
    Tote Ebor Handicap
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    1m6f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    8-6
    OR
    78
    Headgear
    b
    Winner prize
    £69,893
    Days
    26
    Future form
    5/21
  • 5/727 Jul 90 · Ascot7/2

    Brown Jack Handicap

    Handicap (unclassified)2mGood to Firm

    All fields
    Date
    27 Jul 90
    Course
    Ascot
    Pos
    5/7
    SP
    7/2
    Btn
    11¾
    Race
    Brown Jack Handicap
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Good to Firm
    Wgt
    9-10
    OR
    78
    Headgear
    b
    Winner prize
    £10,416
    Days
    13
    Future form
    1/6
  • 1/514 Jul 90 · Chester5/4F

    Wonderfuel Gas Handicap

    Handicap (unclassified)2m2½fFirm

    All fields
    Date
    14 Jul 90
    Course
    Chester
    Pos
    1/5
    SP
    5/4F
    Btn
    won ¾
    Jockey
    M Wigham
    Race
    Wonderfuel Gas Handicap
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    2m2½f
    Going
    Firm
    Wgt
    8-5
    OR
    76
    Headgear
    b
    Winner / 2nd
    Access Ski (GB)
    Winner prize
    £6,992
    Days
    17
    Future form
    0/4
  • 1/1127 Jun 90 · Chester11/4F

    Corbett Bookmakers Trophy Handicap

    Handicap (unclassified)2mGood

    All fields
    Date
    27 Jun 90
    Course
    Chester
    Pos
    1/11
    SP
    11/4F
    Btn
    won 5
    Jockey
    T Quinn
    Race
    Corbett Bookmakers Trophy Handicap
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    8-13
    OR
    71
    Headgear
    b
    Winner / 2nd
    Bush Hill (GB)
    Winner prize
    £5,192
    Days
    4
    Future form
    1/10
  • 2/723 Jun 90 · Ascot3/1

    Chef & Brewer Handicap

    Handicap (unclassified)2mGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    23 Jun 90
    Course
    Ascot
    Pos
    2/7
    SP
    3/1
    Btn
    2
    Jockey
    W Carson
    Race
    Chef & Brewer Handicap
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    7-13
    OR
    71
    Headgear
    b
    Winner / 2nd
    Castle Secret (GB)
    Winner prize
    £9,006
    Days
    8
    Future form
    0/6
  • 8/1115 Jun 90 · Sandown14/1

    Allied Dunbar Handicap

    Handicap (unclassified)1m6fGood to Firm

    All fields
    Date
    15 Jun 90
    Course
    Sandown
    Pos
    8/11
    SP
    14/1
    Btn
    6
    Jockey
    M Roberts
    Race
    Allied Dunbar Handicap
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    1m6f
    Going
    Good to Firm
    Wgt
    9-1
    OR
    73
    Headgear
    b
    Winner / 2nd
    Run High (GB)
    Winner prize
    £4,406
    Days
    76
    Future form
    2/10
  • 1/1031 Mar 90 · Warwick11/4F

    Coventry Cup Handicap

    Handicap (unclassified)1m7fFirm

    All fields
    Date
    31 Mar 90
    Course
    Warwick
    Pos
    1/10
    SP
    11/4F
    Btn
    won 1
    Jockey
    W Carson
    Race
    Coventry Cup Handicap
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    1m7f
    Going
    Firm
    Wgt
    8-13
    OR
    69
    Headgear
    b
    Winner / 2nd
    Caspian Mist (GB)
    Winner prize
    £5,313
    Days
    8
    Future form
    0/9
  • 5/1223 Mar 90 · Doncaster6/1

    Cystic Fibrosis Research Cup Handicap Stakes

    Handicap (unclassified)2m2fFirm

    All fields
    Date
    23 Mar 90
    Course
    Doncaster
    Pos
    5/12
    SP
    6/1
    Btn
    9¾
    Jockey
    W Carson
    Race
    Cystic Fibrosis Research Cup Handicap Stakes
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    2m2f
    Going
    Firm
    Wgt
    8-3
    OR
    70
    Headgear
    b
    Winner / 2nd
    Lucky Verdict (GB)
    Winner prize
    £9,600
    Days
    13
    Future form
    2/10
  • 2/1510 Mar 90 · Sandown14/1

    William Hill Imperial Cup Handicap Hurdle

    Listed2mGood to Firm

    All fields
    Date
    10 Mar 90
    Course
    Sandown
    Pos
    2/15
    SP
    14/1
    Btn
    10
    Race
    William Hill Imperial Cup Handicap Hurdle
    Class
    Listed
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Good to Firm
    Wgt
    11-7
    OR
    137
    Headgear
    b
    Winner / 2nd
    Moody Man (GB)
    Winner prize
    £16,050
    Days
    7
    Future form
    3/14
  • 6/133 Mar 90 · Newbury14/1

    Eastleigh Handicap Hurdle

    Handicap (unclassified)2m½fGood

    All fields
    Date
    3 Mar 90
    Course
    Newbury
    Pos
    6/13
    SP
    14/1
    Btn
    20
    Race
    Eastleigh Handicap Hurdle
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m½f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    10-10
    OR
    137
    Headgear
    b
    Winner prize
    £4,728
    Days
    30
    Future form
    0/12
  • 6/81 Feb 90 · Lingfield (AW)9/2

    Challenger Handicap

    Handicap (unclassified)1m4fSlow

    All fields
    Date
    1 Feb 90
    Course
    Lingfield (AW)
    Pos
    6/8
    SP
    9/2
    Btn
    22½
    Jockey
    M Wigham
    Race
    Challenger Handicap
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Flat AW
    Dist
    1m4f
    Going
    Slow
    Wgt
    9-10
    OR
    72
    Headgear
    b
    Winner / 2nd
    Sir Rufus (GB)
    Winner prize
    £2,786
    Days
    -
    Future form
    2/7

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
22 Aug 90YorkTote Ebor Handicap8/22Bean King (GB)219 Sep 90AyrSingapore Airlines Scottish Handicap
22 Aug 90YorkTote Ebor Handicap8/22First Victory (GB)422 Sep 90Newbury'coral' Autumn Cup Handicap
22 Aug 90YorkTote Ebor Handicap8/22Trainglot (GB)52 Oct 90NewcastleNewcastle University Turf Club Handicap
22 Aug 90YorkTote Ebor Handicap8/22Roll A Dollar (GB)918 Oct 90NewmarketMorison Stoneham Handicap
22 Aug 90YorkTote Ebor Handicap8/22Off The Record (FR)2120 Sep 90BeverleySnowy Gray Memorial Handicap
27 Jul 90AscotBrown Jack Handicap5/7Make Contact I (USA)21 Aug 90GoodwoodCountry Club Hotels Goodwood Handicap
27 Jun 90ChesterCorbett Bookmakers Trophy Handicap1/11Loch Fruin (GB)425 Jul 90DoncasterWembley Stakes For Lady And Gentleman Amateur Riders
15 Jun 90SandownAllied Dunbar Handicap8/11Folk DanceI (GB)530 Jun 90WarwickWarwick Castle Handicap
15 Jun 90SandownAllied Dunbar Handicap8/11Cathos (FR)1027 Jun 90CarlisleBurgh Barony Races Commemoration Cup Handicap Amateur Riders
23 Mar 90DoncasterCystic Fibrosis Research Cup Handicap Stakes5/12Bluff Cove (GB)318 Apr 90PontefractDavid Scott Pattern Makers Handicap
23 Mar 90DoncasterCystic Fibrosis Research Cup Handicap Stakes5/12Hot Star (GB)1019 Apr 90AyrCraigie Cup Handicap
10 Mar 90SandownWilliam Hill Imperial Cup Handicap Hurdle2/15Moody Man (GB)115 Mar 90Cheltenham71st Year Of County Handicap Hurdle
10 Mar 90SandownWilliam Hill Imperial Cup Handicap Hurdle2/15Cinnamon Run (GB)729 Nov 90WarwickTaxinews Magazine Novices' Chase
10 Mar 90SandownWilliam Hill Imperial Cup Handicap Hurdle2/15Nahar (GB)-17 Mar 90Lingfield (AW)Builder Group Gold Cup Handicap Hurdle
1 Feb 90Lingfield (AW)Challenger Handicap6/8Sir Rufus (GB)113 Feb 90Southwell (AW)Barnby Handicap
1 Feb 90Lingfield (AW)Challenger Handicap6/8Altobelli (GB)510 Feb 90Lingfield (AW)'racing Post' All Weather Challenge Round 10 Handicap
  • 8/2222 Aug 90 · York

    Tote Ebor Handicap

    All fields
    Date
    22 Aug 90
    Course
    York
    Race
    Tote Ebor Handicap
    This horse
    8/22
    Winner next time
    Bean King (GB)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    19 Sep 90
    At
    Ayr
    Race won
    Singapore Airlines Scottish Handicap
  • 8/2222 Aug 90 · York

    Tote Ebor Handicap

    All fields
    Date
    22 Aug 90
    Course
    York
    Race
    Tote Ebor Handicap
    This horse
    8/22
    Winner next time
    First Victory (GB)
    Their pos
    4
    Won on
    22 Sep 90
    Race won
    'coral' Autumn Cup Handicap
  • 8/2222 Aug 90 · York

    Tote Ebor Handicap

    All fields
    Date
    22 Aug 90
    Course
    York
    Race
    Tote Ebor Handicap
    This horse
    8/22
    Winner next time
    Trainglot (GB)
    Their pos
    5
    Won on
    2 Oct 90
    Race won
    Newcastle University Turf Club Handicap
  • 8/2222 Aug 90 · York

    Tote Ebor Handicap

    All fields
    Date
    22 Aug 90
    Course
    York
    Race
    Tote Ebor Handicap
    This horse
    8/22
    Winner next time
    Roll A Dollar (GB)
    Their pos
    9
    Won on
    18 Oct 90
    At
    Newmarket
    Race won
    Morison Stoneham Handicap
  • 8/2222 Aug 90 · York

    Tote Ebor Handicap

    All fields
    Date
    22 Aug 90
    Course
    York
    Race
    Tote Ebor Handicap
    This horse
    8/22
    Winner next time
    Off The Record (FR)
    Their pos
    21
    Won on
    20 Sep 90
    Race won
    Snowy Gray Memorial Handicap
  • 5/727 Jul 90 · Ascot

    Brown Jack Handicap

    All fields
    Date
    27 Jul 90
    Course
    Ascot
    Race
    Brown Jack Handicap
    This horse
    5/7
    Winner next time
    Make Contact I (USA)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    1 Aug 90
    Race won
    Country Club Hotels Goodwood Handicap
  • 1/1127 Jun 90 · Chester

    Corbett Bookmakers Trophy Handicap

    All fields
    Date
    27 Jun 90
    Course
    Chester
    Race
    Corbett Bookmakers Trophy Handicap
    This horse
    1/11
    Winner next time
    Loch Fruin (GB)
    Their pos
    4
    Won on
    25 Jul 90
    Race won
    Wembley Stakes For Lady And Gentleman Amateur Riders
  • 8/1115 Jun 90 · Sandown

    Allied Dunbar Handicap

    All fields
    Date
    15 Jun 90
    Course
    Sandown
    Race
    Allied Dunbar Handicap
    This horse
    8/11
    Winner next time
    Folk DanceI (GB)
    Their pos
    5
    Won on
    30 Jun 90
    Race won
    Warwick Castle Handicap
  • 8/1115 Jun 90 · Sandown

    Allied Dunbar Handicap

    All fields
    Date
    15 Jun 90
    Course
    Sandown
    Race
    Allied Dunbar Handicap
    This horse
    8/11
    Winner next time
    Cathos (FR)
    Their pos
    10
    Won on
    27 Jun 90
    Race won
    Burgh Barony Races Commemoration Cup Handicap Amateur Riders
  • 5/1223 Mar 90 · Doncaster

    Cystic Fibrosis Research Cup Handicap Stakes

    All fields
    Date
    23 Mar 90
    Course
    Doncaster
    Race
    Cystic Fibrosis Research Cup Handicap Stakes
    This horse
    5/12
    Winner next time
    Bluff Cove (GB)
    Their pos
    3
    Won on
    18 Apr 90
    Race won
    David Scott Pattern Makers Handicap
  • 5/1223 Mar 90 · Doncaster

    Cystic Fibrosis Research Cup Handicap Stakes

    All fields
    Date
    23 Mar 90
    Course
    Doncaster
    Race
    Cystic Fibrosis Research Cup Handicap Stakes
    This horse
    5/12
    Winner next time
    Hot Star (GB)
    Their pos
    10
    Won on
    19 Apr 90
    At
    Ayr
    Race won
    Craigie Cup Handicap
  • 2/1510 Mar 90 · Sandown

    William Hill Imperial Cup Handicap Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    10 Mar 90
    Course
    Sandown
    Race
    William Hill Imperial Cup Handicap Hurdle
    This horse
    2/15
    Winner next time
    Moody Man (GB)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    15 Mar 90
    Race won
    71st Year Of County Handicap Hurdle
  • 2/1510 Mar 90 · Sandown

    William Hill Imperial Cup Handicap Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    10 Mar 90
    Course
    Sandown
    Race
    William Hill Imperial Cup Handicap Hurdle
    This horse
    2/15
    Winner next time
    Cinnamon Run (GB)
    Their pos
    7
    Won on
    29 Nov 90
    Race won
    Taxinews Magazine Novices' Chase
  • 2/1510 Mar 90 · Sandown

    William Hill Imperial Cup Handicap Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    10 Mar 90
    Course
    Sandown
    Race
    William Hill Imperial Cup Handicap Hurdle
    This horse
    2/15
    Winner next time
    Nahar (GB)
    Their pos
    -
    Won on
    17 Mar 90
    At
    Lingfield (AW)
    Race won
    Builder Group Gold Cup Handicap Hurdle
  • 6/81 Feb 90 · Lingfield (AW)

    Challenger Handicap

    All fields
    Date
    1 Feb 90
    Course
    Lingfield (AW)
    Race
    Challenger Handicap
    This horse
    6/8
    Winner next time
    Sir Rufus (GB)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    13 Feb 90
    At
    Southwell (AW)
    Race won
    Barnby Handicap
  • 6/81 Feb 90 · Lingfield (AW)

    Challenger Handicap

    All fields
    Date
    1 Feb 90
    Course
    Lingfield (AW)
    Race
    Challenger Handicap
    This horse
    6/8
    Winner next time
    Altobelli (GB)
    Their pos
    5
    Won on
    10 Feb 90
    At
    Lingfield (AW)
    Race won
    'racing Post' All Weather Challenge Round 10 Handicap

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardOR first runOR last runBest ORRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
J Sutcliffe1 Feb 9022 Aug 906/872781371132027.3%45.5%£24,985€0
J Sutcliffe
First run
1 Feb 90
Last run
22 Aug 90
First run for yard
6/8
OR first run
72
OR last run
78
Best OR
137
Runs
11
Wins
3
2nd
2
3rd
0
Win %
27.3%
Place %
45.5%
Prize GB (£)
£24,985
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)Best ORFirst runLast run
Flat931033.3%44.4%£20,185€0781 Feb 9022 Aug 90
National Hunt20100.0%50.0%£4,800€01373 Mar 9010 Mar 90
All runs1132027.3%45.5%£24,985€01371 Feb 9022 Aug 90
Flat
Code
Flat
Runs
9
Wins
3
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
33.3%
Place %
44.4%
Prize GB (£)
£20,185
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Best OR
78
First run
1 Feb 90
Last run
22 Aug 90
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,800
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Best OR
137
First run
3 Mar 90
Last run
10 Mar 90
All runs
Code
All runs
Runs
11
Wins
3
2nd
2
3rd
0
Win %
27.3%
Place %
45.5%
Prize GB (£)
£24,985
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Best OR
137
First run
1 Feb 90
Last run
22 Aug 90

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Flat Turf831037.5%50.0%£20,185€0
Flat AW10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Hurdle20100.0%50.0%£4,800€0
Flat Turf
Race type
Flat Turf
Runs
8
Wins
3
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
37.5%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£20,185
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Flat AW
Race type
Flat AW
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Hurdle
Race type
Hurdle
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,800
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Firm320066.7%66.7%£12,305€0
Good to Firm30100.0%33.3%£4,800€0
Good310033.3%33.3%£5,192€0
Good to Soft10100.0%100.0%£2,688€0
Slow10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Firm
Going
Firm
Runs
3
Wins
2
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
66.7%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£12,305
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good to Firm
Going
Good to Firm
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£4,800
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good
Going
Good
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
33.3%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£5,192
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good to Soft
Going
Good to Soft
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,688
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Slow
Going
Slow
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
12f to 13f10000.0%0.0%£0€0
14f and over831037.5%50.0%£20,185€0
2m to 2m1f20100.0%50.0%£4,800€0
12f to 13f
Distance
12f to 13f
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
14f and over
Distance
14f and over
Runs
8
Wins
3
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
37.5%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£20,185
Prize IRE (€)
€0
2m to 2m1f
Distance
2m to 2m1f
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,800
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Chester2200100.0%100.0%£12,184€0
Ascot20100.0%50.0%£2,688€0
Sandown20100.0%50.0%£4,800€0
Warwick1100100.0%100.0%£5,313€0
Doncaster10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Lingfield (AW)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Newbury10000.0%0.0%£0€0
York10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Chester
Course
Chester
Runs
2
Wins
2
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£12,184
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Ascot
Course
Ascot
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,688
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Sandown
Course
Sandown
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,800
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Warwick
Course
Warwick
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£5,313
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Doncaster
Course
Doncaster
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Lingfield (AW)
Course
Lingfield (AW)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Newbury
Course
Newbury
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
York
Course
York
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Listed10100.0%100.0%£4,800€0
Handicap (unclassified)1031030.0%40.0%£20,185€0
Listed
Class
Listed
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,800
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Handicap (unclassified)
Class
Handicap (unclassified)
Runs
10
Wins
3
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
30.0%
Place %
40.0%
Prize GB (£)
£20,185
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
6 to 8 runners30100.0%33.3%£2,688€0
2 to 5 runners1100100.0%100.0%£6,992€0
9 to 12 runners420050.0%50.0%£10,505€0
13 to 16 runners20100.0%50.0%£4,800€0
17+ runners10000.0%0.0%£0€0
6 to 8 runners
Runners
6 to 8 runners
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£2,688
Prize IRE (€)
€0
2 to 5 runners
Runners
2 to 5 runners
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£6,992
Prize IRE (€)
€0
9 to 12 runners
Runners
9 to 12 runners
Runs
4
Wins
2
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£10,505
Prize IRE (€)
€0
13 to 16 runners
Runners
13 to 16 runners
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,800
Prize IRE (€)
€0
17+ runners
Runners
17+ runners
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
February10000.0%0.0%£0€0
March411025.0%50.0%£10,113€0
June311033.3%66.7%£7,880€0
July210050.0%50.0%£6,992€0
August10000.0%0.0%£0€0
February
Month
February
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
March
Month
March
Runs
4
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
25.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£10,113
Prize IRE (€)
€0
June
Month
June
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
33.3%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£7,880
Prize IRE (€)
€0
July
Month
July
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£6,992
Prize IRE (€)
€0
August
Month
August
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
M Wigham310033.3%33.3%£6,992€0
W Carson311033.3%66.7%£8,001€0
Dale McKeown20100.0%50.0%£4,800€0
T Quinn1100100.0%100.0%£5,192€0
M Roberts10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Pat Eddery10000.0%0.0%£0€0
M Wigham
Jockey
M Wigham
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
33.3%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£6,992
Prize IRE (€)
€0
W Carson
Jockey
W Carson
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
33.3%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£8,001
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Dale McKeown
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,800
Prize IRE (€)
€0
T Quinn
Jockey
T Quinn
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£5,192
Prize IRE (€)
€0
M Roberts
Jockey
M Roberts
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Pat Eddery
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
J Sutcliffe1132027.3%45.5%£24,985€0
J Sutcliffe
Runs
11
Wins
3
2nd
2
3rd
0
Win %
27.3%
Place %
45.5%
Prize GB (£)
£24,985
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
b1132027.3%45.5%£24,985€0
b
Headgear
b
Runs
11
Wins
3
2nd
2
3rd
0
Win %
27.3%
Place %
45.5%
Prize GB (£)
£24,985
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10000.0%0.0%£0€0
1 to 7 days211050.0%100.0%£9,992€0
8 to 14 days411025.0%50.0%£8,001€0
15 to 30 days310033.3%33.3%£6,992€0
61 to 120 days10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
1 to 7 days
Days since last run
1 to 7 days
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£9,992
Prize IRE (€)
€0
8 to 14 days
Days since last run
8 to 14 days
Runs
4
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
25.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£8,001
Prize IRE (€)
€0
15 to 30 days
Days since last run
15 to 30 days
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
33.3%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£6,992
Prize IRE (€)
€0
61 to 120 days
Days since last run
61 to 120 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

By first-time headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
First time in any headgear10000.0%0.0%£0€0
First time blinkers10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Headgear, all items worn before1032030.0%50.0%£24,985€0
First time in any headgear
Headgear
First time in any headgear
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
First time blinkers
Headgear
First time blinkers
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Headgear, all items worn before
Headgear
Headgear, all items worn before
Runs
10
Wins
3
2nd
2
3rd
0
Win %
30.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£24,985
Prize IRE (€)
€0

A run can count in more than one "first time" row (e.g. first-time blinkers and first headgear of any kind). First time is judged against earlier British and Irish runs only.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchPas De Seul (GB)

Parent · 1

  1. SirePas De Seul (GB)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchKind Thoughts (GB)

Parent · 1

  1. DamKind Thoughts (GB)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireKashmir II
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Pas De Seul (GB)
Kind Thoughts (GB)
Not traced
Not traced
Kashmir II
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorsePenny Forum (GB)
Sexgelding
Foaled1984
SirePas De Seul (GB)
DamKind Thoughts (GB)
DamsireKashmir II
Dam's produce5 winners from 5 runners
Notable siblingCarbisdale (GB)

Female line

  1. Kind Thoughts (GB) · 5 winners from 5 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Pas De Seul (GB)Kind Thoughts (GB)Kashmir IIgeldingFlat 12.9f · NH 2m2fFlat 11.7f · NH 2m2½f
Pas De Seul (GB)
Damsire
Kashmir II
Sex
gelding
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 12.9f · NH 2m2f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 11.7f · NH 2m2½f

Progeny of Pas De Seul (GB) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All Flat runs32126808.1%24.9%93
At 14f and over83152618.1%31.3%83
On Good to firm or firmer going13612318.8%22.8%52
At 14f and over on Good to firm or firmer going3451314.7%38.2%52
All Flat runs
Condition
All Flat runs
Runs
321
Wins
26
Placed
80
Win %
8.1%
Place %
24.9%
This horse runs
9
This horse wins
3
At 14f and over
Condition
At 14f and over
Runs
83
Wins
15
Placed
26
Win %
18.1%
Place %
31.3%
This horse runs
8
This horse wins
3
On Good to firm or firmer going
Condition
On Good to firm or firmer going
Runs
136
Wins
12
Placed
31
Win %
8.8%
Place %
22.8%
This horse runs
5
This horse wins
2
At 14f and over on Good to firm or firmer going
Condition
At 14f and over on Good to firm or firmer going
Runs
34
Wins
5
Placed
13
Win %
14.7%
Place %
38.2%
This horse runs
5
This horse wins
2

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Pas De Seul (GB) × Kashmir II mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Flat11100.0%093133.3%£20,185€0
National Hunt100.0%02010.0%£4,800€0
All runs11100.0%0113227.3%£24,985€0
Flat
Code
Flat
Runners
1
Winners
1
Winners %
100.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
9
Wins
3
2nd/3rd
1
Win %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£20,185
Prize IRE (€)
€0
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
1
Winners
0
Winners %
0.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd/3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,800
Prize IRE (€)
€0
All runs
Code
All runs
Runners
1
Winners
1
Winners %
100.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
11
Wins
3
2nd/3rd
2
Win %
27.3%
Prize GB (£)
£24,985
Prize IRE (€)
€0

All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Penny Forum (GB)1130£24,985€0
Penny Forum (GB)
Runs
11
Wins
3
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£24,985
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Ratings

Official ratings

CodeCurrent ORHighest ORLowest ORLast winning ORLast winRated runs
Flat7878697614 Jul 909
National Hunt137137137--2
Flat
Code
Flat
Current OR
78
Highest OR
78
Lowest OR
69
Last winning OR
76
Last win
14 Jul 90
Rated runs
9
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
137
Highest OR
137
Lowest OR
137
Rated runs
2

Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.

Official rating by run

DateCourseCodeORChangePos
22 Aug 90YorkFlat7808/22
27 Jul 90AscotFlat7825/7
14 Jul 90ChesterFlat7651/5
27 Jun 90ChesterFlat7101/11
23 Jun 90AscotFlat71-22/7
15 Jun 90SandownFlat7348/11
31 Mar 90WarwickFlat69-11/10
23 Mar 90DoncasterFlat70-25/12
10 Mar 90SandownNH13702/15
3 Mar 90NewburyNH137-6/13
1 Feb 90Lingfield (AW)Flat72-6/8
  • 8/2222 Aug 90 · York
    All fields
    Date
    22 Aug 90
    Course
    York
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    78
    Change
    0
    Pos
    8/22
  • 5/727 Jul 90 · Ascot
    All fields
    Date
    27 Jul 90
    Course
    Ascot
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    78
    Change
    2
    Pos
    5/7
  • 1/514 Jul 90 · Chester
    All fields
    Date
    14 Jul 90
    Course
    Chester
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    76
    Change
    5
    Pos
    1/5
  • 1/1127 Jun 90 · Chester
    All fields
    Date
    27 Jun 90
    Course
    Chester
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    71
    Change
    0
    Pos
    1/11
  • 2/723 Jun 90 · Ascot
    All fields
    Date
    23 Jun 90
    Course
    Ascot
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    71
    Change
    -2
    Pos
    2/7
  • 8/1115 Jun 90 · Sandown
    All fields
    Date
    15 Jun 90
    Course
    Sandown
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    73
    Change
    4
    Pos
    8/11
  • 1/1031 Mar 90 · Warwick
    All fields
    Date
    31 Mar 90
    Course
    Warwick
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    69
    Change
    -1
    Pos
    1/10
  • 5/1223 Mar 90 · Doncaster
    All fields
    Date
    23 Mar 90
    Course
    Doncaster
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    70
    Change
    -2
    Pos
    5/12
  • 2/1510 Mar 90 · Sandown
    All fields
    Date
    10 Mar 90
    Course
    Sandown
    Code
    NH
    OR
    137
    Change
    0
    Pos
    2/15
  • 6/133 Mar 90 · Newbury
    All fields
    Date
    3 Mar 90
    Course
    Newbury
    Code
    NH
    OR
    137
    Change
    -
    Pos
    6/13
  • 6/81 Feb 90 · Lingfield (AW)
    All fields
    Date
    1 Feb 90
    Course
    Lingfield (AW)
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    72
    Change
    -
    Pos
    6/8

Current mark v winning marks

CodeCurrent OROR last runChangeLast winning ORLast winv last winningHighest winning ORv highest winningHighest ORv highest
Flat787807614 Jul 902762780
National Hunt1371370-----1370
Flat
Code
Flat
Current OR
78
OR last run
78
Change
0
Last winning OR
76
Last win
14 Jul 90
v last winning
2
Highest winning OR
76
v highest winning
2
Highest OR
78
v highest
0
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
137
OR last run
137
Change
0
Highest OR
137
v highest
0

Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.

Family

Dam summary

Kind Thoughts (GB)

G1 winners
0
Produce
5 winners from 5 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Pas De Seul (GB) out of Kind Thoughts (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Dunbeath (USA)

By Primo Dominie (GB)

By Rambo Dancer (CAN)

By Persian Bold (IRE)

Female line

  1. 1Kind Thoughts (GB)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

View full Kind Thoughts family

In brief

When was Penny Forum foaled?

Penny Forum (GB) was foaled in 1984.

Who are the sire and dam of Penny Forum?

Penny Forum (GB) is by Pas De Seul (GB) out of Kind Thoughts (GB), a daughter of Kashmir II.

Who trained Penny Forum?

Penny Forum (GB) was trained by J Sutcliffe and owned by R J Surridge at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Penny Forum's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Penny Forum (GB) won 3 of 11 races (27%): 3 of 9 on the Flat and 0 of 2 over jumps. Runs abroad (for example in France, Dubai or the USA) are not included.

How much prize money has Penny Forum won?

Penny Forum (GB) earned £24,985 in Britain in prize money.

Has Penny Forum ever been beaten?

Penny Forum (GB) was beaten 8 times in 11 runs in Britain and Ireland, the first time on 1 February 1990 at Lingfield (AW) (6th of 8).

What was Penny Forum's official rating?

Penny Forum (GB) was last officially rated 78 on the Flat (also the career high) and 137 over jumps (also the career high).

Is Penny Forum still racing?

Penny Forum (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 22 August 1990 at York in the Tote Ebor Handicap, finishing 8th of 22, and has not run there since.

What is Penny Forum's record at Chester?

Penny Forum (GB) ran most often at Chester, with 2 wins from 2 runs there.

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