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Horse profile
Not So Proper
- TrainerC Byrnes
- OwnerByrnes Bloodstock Limited
- FamilyPrincess Piggy
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 2017
- Colour
- bay
- Highest OR
- 89
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 8 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Official rating
- 79 (Jumps)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 2 Oct 2026, Gowran Park (IRE) (19/20)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Yet to win
Recent form
111081016PU1619
Not So Proper has no declared runs or entries in Britain or Ireland at the moment.
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2 Oct 26 | Gowran Park (IRE) | 19/20 | 50/1 | dist | Tom Kelly | C Byrnes | Racing TV Handicap Hurdle (Div I) | Handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m4f | Good | 10-0 | 79 | At The Wings (IRE) | €6,000 | 225 | 0/5 |
| 19 Feb 26 | Thurles (IRE) | 16/17 | 66/1 | dist | Sarah Kavanagh | C Byrnes | Connolly's RED MILLS Ladies Handicap Hurdle | Handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m½f | Soft to Heavy | 9-10 | 84 | Campbell Black (IRE) | €6,785 | 35 | 0/13 |
| 15 Jan 26 | Fairyhouse (IRE) | PU/15 | 28/1 | - | Philip Byrnes | C Byrnes | William Hill Each Way Extra Challenge Series Handicap Hurdle (Div II) | Handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m4f | Soft | 10-12 | 82 | Shanroe Act (IRE) | €5,900 | 1,332 | 1/9 |
| 24 May 22 | Punchestown (IRE) | 16/19 | 33/1 | dist | Ambrose McCurtin | C Byrnes | Bar One Racing 50Euro Free Bet Handicap Hurdle (Div I) | Handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m½f | Good | 11-5 | 89 | Unanswered (GB) | €6,195 | 11 | 2/17 |
| 13 May 22 | Kilbeggan (IRE) | 10/11 | 50/1 | dist | Donal McInerney | C Byrnes | KilbegganRaces.com Maiden Hurdle | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m | Good | 11-12 | - | Backing Band (IRE) | €6,195 | 22 | 0/10 |
| 21 Apr 22 | Kilbeggan (IRE) | 8/14 | 100/1 | dist | Donal McInerney | C Byrnes | Spring Two Day N.H. Race Meeting Maiden Hurdle (Div II) | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 1m7f | Good to Yielding | 11-12 | - | Sizing Mauritius (IRE) | €5,900 | 25 | 2/12 |
| 27 Mar 22 | Limerick (IRE) | 10/13 | 33/1 | dist | Phillip Enright | C Byrnes | Nevilles Bar And Restaurant Irish EBF Maiden Hurdle (Div I) | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m3f | Good to Yielding | 11-12 | - | The Road To Fame (IRE) | €8,850 | 24 | 2/11 |
| 3 Mar 22 | Clonmel (IRE) | 11/17 | 33/1 | dist | Richard Deegan | C Byrnes | Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden Hurdle | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m2½f | Heavy | 11-1 | - | Geni De La Cour (FR) | €7,670 | - | 4/15 |
Racing TV Handicap Hurdle (Div I)
Handicap (unclassified)2m4fGood
All fields
- Date
- 2 Oct 26
- Course
- Gowran Park (IRE)
- Pos
- 19/20
- SP
- 50/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Tom Kelly
- Trainer
- C Byrnes
- Race
- Racing TV Handicap Hurdle (Div I)
- Class
- Handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m4f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 10-0
- OR
- 79
- Winner / 2nd
- At The Wings (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €6,000
- Days
- 225
- Future form
- 0/5
Connolly's RED MILLS Ladies Handicap Hurdle
Handicap (unclassified)2m½fSoft to Heavy
All fields
- Date
- 19 Feb 26
- Course
- Thurles (IRE)
- Pos
- 16/17
- SP
- 66/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Sarah Kavanagh
- Trainer
- C Byrnes
- Race
- Connolly's RED MILLS Ladies Handicap Hurdle
- Class
- Handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m½f
- Going
- Soft to Heavy
- Wgt
- 9-10
- OR
- 84
- Winner / 2nd
- Campbell Black (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €6,785
- Days
- 35
- Future form
- 0/13
William Hill Each Way Extra Challenge Series Handicap Hurdle (Div II)
Handicap (unclassified)2m4fSoft
All fields
- Date
- 15 Jan 26
- Course
- Fairyhouse (IRE)
- Pos
- PU/15
- SP
- 28/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Philip Byrnes
- Trainer
- C Byrnes
- Race
- William Hill Each Way Extra Challenge Series Handicap Hurdle (Div II)
- Class
- Handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m4f
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 10-12
- OR
- 82
- Winner / 2nd
- Shanroe Act (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €5,900
- Days
- 1,332
- Future form
- 1/9
Bar One Racing 50Euro Free Bet Handicap Hurdle (Div I)
Handicap (unclassified)2m½fGood
All fields
- Date
- 24 May 22
- Course
- Punchestown (IRE)
- Pos
- 16/19
- SP
- 33/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Ambrose McCurtin
- Trainer
- C Byrnes
- Race
- Bar One Racing 50Euro Free Bet Handicap Hurdle (Div I)
- Class
- Handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m½f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 11-5
- OR
- 89
- Winner / 2nd
- Unanswered (GB)
- Winner prize
- €6,195
- Days
- 11
- Future form
- 2/17
KilbegganRaces.com Maiden Hurdle
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mGood
All fields
- Date
- 13 May 22
- Course
- Kilbeggan (IRE)
- Pos
- 10/11
- SP
- 50/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Donal McInerney
- Trainer
- C Byrnes
- Race
- KilbegganRaces.com Maiden Hurdle
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 11-12
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Backing Band (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €6,195
- Days
- 22
- Future form
- 0/10
Spring Two Day N.H. Race Meeting Maiden Hurdle (Div II)
Non-handicap (unclassified)1m7fGood to Yielding
All fields
- Date
- 21 Apr 22
- Course
- Kilbeggan (IRE)
- Pos
- 8/14
- SP
- 100/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Donal McInerney
- Trainer
- C Byrnes
- Race
- Spring Two Day N.H. Race Meeting Maiden Hurdle (Div II)
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 1m7f
- Going
- Good to Yielding
- Wgt
- 11-12
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Sizing Mauritius (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €5,900
- Days
- 25
- Future form
- 2/12
Nevilles Bar And Restaurant Irish EBF Maiden Hurdle (Div I)
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m3fGood to Yielding
All fields
- Date
- 27 Mar 22
- Course
- Limerick (IRE)
- Pos
- 10/13
- SP
- 33/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Phillip Enright
- Trainer
- C Byrnes
- Race
- Nevilles Bar And Restaurant Irish EBF Maiden Hurdle (Div I)
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m3f
- Going
- Good to Yielding
- Wgt
- 11-12
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- The Road To Fame (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €8,850
- Days
- 24
- Future form
- 2/11
Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden Hurdle
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m2½fHeavy
All fields
- Date
- 3 Mar 22
- Course
- Clonmel (IRE)
- Pos
- 11/17
- SP
- 33/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Richard Deegan
- Trainer
- C Byrnes
- Race
- Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden Hurdle
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m2½f
- Going
- Heavy
- Wgt
- 11-1
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Geni De La Cour (FR)
- Winner prize
- €7,670
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 4/15
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 15 Jan 26 | Fairyhouse (IRE) | William Hill Each Way Extra Challenge Series Handicap Hurdle (Div II) | PU/15 | Shanroe Act (IRE) | 1 | 20 Jan 26 | Down Royal (IRE) | Aspall Handicap Chase |
| 24 May 22 | Punchestown (IRE) | Bar One Racing 50Euro Free Bet Handicap Hurdle (Div I) | 16/19 | Unanswered (GB) | 1 | 13 Jul 22 | Killarney (IRE) | Killarney Grand Hotel Handicap |
| 24 May 22 | Punchestown (IRE) | Bar One Racing 50Euro Free Bet Handicap Hurdle (Div I) | 16/19 | Just Jacob (IRE) | - | 8 Jul 22 | Cork (IRE) | Mallow Handicap Hurdle |
| 21 Apr 22 | Kilbeggan (IRE) | Spring Two Day N.H. Race Meeting Maiden Hurdle (Div II) | 8/14 | King Kal (IRE) | 4 | 29 Aug 22 | Downpatrick (IRE) | A J C Group Maiden Hurdle |
| 21 Apr 22 | Kilbeggan (IRE) | Spring Two Day N.H. Race Meeting Maiden Hurdle (Div II) | 8/14 | Miranda Priestly (IRE) | 5 | 7 May 22 | Cork (IRE) | Irish Stallion Farms EBF Mares Maiden Hurdle |
| 27 Mar 22 | Limerick (IRE) | Nevilles Bar And Restaurant Irish EBF Maiden Hurdle (Div I) | 10/13 | Sizing Mauritius (IRE) | 3 | 21 Apr 22 | Kilbeggan (IRE) | Spring Two Day N.H. Race Meeting Maiden Hurdle (Div II) |
| 27 Mar 22 | Limerick (IRE) | Nevilles Bar And Restaurant Irish EBF Maiden Hurdle (Div I) | 10/13 | Gaelic Arc (IRE) | 7 | 2 May 22 | Down Royal (IRE) | Ballygowan Opportunity Maiden Hurdle |
| 3 Mar 22 | Clonmel (IRE) | Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden Hurdle | 11/17 | Whatsavailable (IRE) | 2 | 16 Apr 22 | Fairyhouse (IRE) | Mongey Communications Maiden Hurdle |
| 3 Mar 22 | Clonmel (IRE) | Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden Hurdle | 11/17 | Maxxum (IRE) | 4 | 22 Mar 22 | Clonmel (IRE) | Knocklofty Maiden Hurdle |
| 3 Mar 22 | Clonmel (IRE) | Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden Hurdle | 11/17 | Cafe Del Mar (IRE) | 5 | 19 Mar 22 | Thurles (IRE) | Jimmy Neville Memorial Handicap Hurdle |
| 3 Mar 22 | Clonmel (IRE) | Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden Hurdle | 11/17 | Plains Indian (IRE) | - | 22 Mar 22 | Clonmel (IRE) | Fourmilewater Maiden Hurdle |
- PU/1515 Jan 26 · Fairyhouse (IRE)
William Hill Each Way Extra Challenge Series Handicap Hurdle (Div II)
All fields
- Date
- 15 Jan 26
- Course
- Fairyhouse (IRE)
- Race
- William Hill Each Way Extra Challenge Series Handicap Hurdle (Div II)
- This horse
- PU/15
- Winner next time
- Shanroe Act (IRE)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 20 Jan 26
- Race won
- Aspall Handicap Chase
- 16/1924 May 22 · Punchestown (IRE)
Bar One Racing 50Euro Free Bet Handicap Hurdle (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 24 May 22
- Course
- Punchestown (IRE)
- Race
- Bar One Racing 50Euro Free Bet Handicap Hurdle (Div I)
- This horse
- 16/19
- Winner next time
- Unanswered (GB)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 13 Jul 22
- Race won
- Killarney Grand Hotel Handicap
- 16/1924 May 22 · Punchestown (IRE)
Bar One Racing 50Euro Free Bet Handicap Hurdle (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 24 May 22
- Course
- Punchestown (IRE)
- Race
- Bar One Racing 50Euro Free Bet Handicap Hurdle (Div I)
- This horse
- 16/19
- Winner next time
- Just Jacob (IRE)
- Their pos
- -
- Won on
- 8 Jul 22
- Race won
- Mallow Handicap Hurdle
- 8/1421 Apr 22 · Kilbeggan (IRE)
Spring Two Day N.H. Race Meeting Maiden Hurdle (Div II)
All fields
- Date
- 21 Apr 22
- Course
- Kilbeggan (IRE)
- Race
- Spring Two Day N.H. Race Meeting Maiden Hurdle (Div II)
- This horse
- 8/14
- Winner next time
- King Kal (IRE)
- Their pos
- 4
- Won on
- 29 Aug 22
- Race won
- A J C Group Maiden Hurdle
- 8/1421 Apr 22 · Kilbeggan (IRE)
Spring Two Day N.H. Race Meeting Maiden Hurdle (Div II)
All fields
- Date
- 21 Apr 22
- Course
- Kilbeggan (IRE)
- Race
- Spring Two Day N.H. Race Meeting Maiden Hurdle (Div II)
- This horse
- 8/14
- Winner next time
- Miranda Priestly (IRE)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 7 May 22
- Race won
- Irish Stallion Farms EBF Mares Maiden Hurdle
- 10/1327 Mar 22 · Limerick (IRE)
Nevilles Bar And Restaurant Irish EBF Maiden Hurdle (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 27 Mar 22
- Course
- Limerick (IRE)
- Race
- Nevilles Bar And Restaurant Irish EBF Maiden Hurdle (Div I)
- This horse
- 10/13
- Winner next time
- Sizing Mauritius (IRE)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 21 Apr 22
- Race won
- Spring Two Day N.H. Race Meeting Maiden Hurdle (Div II)
- 10/1327 Mar 22 · Limerick (IRE)
Nevilles Bar And Restaurant Irish EBF Maiden Hurdle (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 27 Mar 22
- Course
- Limerick (IRE)
- Race
- Nevilles Bar And Restaurant Irish EBF Maiden Hurdle (Div I)
- This horse
- 10/13
- Winner next time
- Gaelic Arc (IRE)
- Their pos
- 7
- Won on
- 2 May 22
- Race won
- Ballygowan Opportunity Maiden Hurdle
- 11/173 Mar 22 · Clonmel (IRE)
Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 3 Mar 22
- Course
- Clonmel (IRE)
- Race
- Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- 11/17
- Winner next time
- Whatsavailable (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 16 Apr 22
- Race won
- Mongey Communications Maiden Hurdle
- 11/173 Mar 22 · Clonmel (IRE)
Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 3 Mar 22
- Course
- Clonmel (IRE)
- Race
- Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- 11/17
- Winner next time
- Maxxum (IRE)
- Their pos
- 4
- Won on
- 22 Mar 22
- Race won
- Knocklofty Maiden Hurdle
- 11/173 Mar 22 · Clonmel (IRE)
Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 3 Mar 22
- Course
- Clonmel (IRE)
- Race
- Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- 11/17
- Winner next time
- Cafe Del Mar (IRE)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 19 Mar 22
- Race won
- Jimmy Neville Memorial Handicap Hurdle
- 11/173 Mar 22 · Clonmel (IRE)
Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 3 Mar 22
- Course
- Clonmel (IRE)
- Race
- Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- 11/17
- Winner next time
- Plains Indian (IRE)
- Their pos
- -
- Won on
- 22 Mar 22
- Race won
- Fourmilewater Maiden Hurdle
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| C Byrnes | 3 Mar 22 | 2 Oct 26 | 11/17 | 89 | 79 | 89 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
C Byrnes
- Trainer
- C Byrnes
- First run
- 3 Mar 22
- Last run
- 2 Oct 26
- First run for yard
- 11/17
- OR first run
- 89
- OR last run
- 79
- Best OR
- 89
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 89 | 3 Mar 22 | 2 Oct 26 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 89
- First run
- 3 Mar 22
- Last run
- 2 Oct 26
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Hurdle
- Race type
- Hurdle
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Good to Yielding | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Soft to Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good to Yielding
- Going
- Good to Yielding
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Soft
- Going
- Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Soft to Heavy
- Going
- Soft to Heavy
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Heavy
- Going
- Heavy
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m to 2m1f | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 2m2f to 2m5f | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
2m to 2m1f
- Distance
- 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
2m2f to 2m5f
- Distance
- 2m2f to 2m5f
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Kilbeggan (IRE) | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Clonmel (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Fairyhouse (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Gowran Park (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Limerick (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Punchestown (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Thurles (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Kilbeggan (IRE)
- Course
- Kilbeggan (IRE)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Clonmel (IRE)
- Course
- Clonmel (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Fairyhouse (IRE)
- Course
- Fairyhouse (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Gowran Park (IRE)
- Course
- Gowran Park (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Limerick (IRE)
- Course
- Limerick (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Punchestown (IRE)
- Course
- Punchestown (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Thurles (IRE)
- Course
- Thurles (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Handicap (unclassified) | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Non-handicap (unclassified) | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Handicap (unclassified)
- Class
- Handicap (unclassified)
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 9 to 12 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 13 to 16 runners | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 17+ runners | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
13 to 16 runners
- Runners
- 13 to 16 runners
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
17+ runners
- Runners
- 17+ runners
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| January | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| February | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| March | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| April | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| May | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| October | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
January
- Month
- January
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
February
- Month
- February
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
March
- Month
- March
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
April
- Month
- April
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
May
- Month
- May
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
October
- Month
- October
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Donal McInerney | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Ambrose McCurtin | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Philip Byrnes | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Phillip Enright | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Richard Deegan | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Sarah Kavanagh | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Tom Kelly | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Donal McInerney
- Jockey
- Donal McInerney
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Ambrose McCurtin
- Jockey
- Ambrose McCurtin
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Philip Byrnes
- Jockey
- Philip Byrnes
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Phillip Enright
- Jockey
- Phillip Enright
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Richard Deegan
- Jockey
- Richard Deegan
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Sarah Kavanagh
- Jockey
- Sarah Kavanagh
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Tom Kelly
- Jockey
- Tom Kelly
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| C Byrnes | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
C Byrnes
- Trainer
- C Byrnes
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 8 to 14 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 121 to 365 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Over a year | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
8 to 14 days
- Days since last run
- 8 to 14 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
121 to 365 days
- Days since last run
- 121 to 365 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Over a year
- Days since last run
- Over a year
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchNotnowcato (GB)
Parent · 1
- SireNotnowcato (GB)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireInchinor (GB)
- Sire's damRambling Rose (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchSo Proper (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireTopanoora (IRE)
- Dam's damMiss Muppet (IRE)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireSupreme Leader (GB)
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Miss Muppet (IRE)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Supreme Leader (GB)
Not traced
Breeding card
HorseNot So Proper (IRE)
Sexgelding
Foaled2017
SireNotnowcato (GB)
DamSo Proper (IRE)
DamsireTopanoora (IRE)
Sire's sireInchinor (GB)
Sire's damRambling Rose (GB)
2nd damMiss Muppet (IRE)
2nd dam's sireSupreme Leader (GB)
Dam's produce4 winners from 6 runners
Notable siblingStormy Oscar (IRE)
Female line
- So Proper (IRE) · by Topanoora (IRE) · 4 winners from 6 runners
- Miss Muppet (IRE) · by Supreme Leader (GB) · 6 winners from 10 runners
- Princess Piggy (GB) · 1 winners from 1 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Breeder | Foaled | Colour | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Notnowcato (GB) | So Proper (IRE) | Topanoora (IRE) | Clem & Greg Rossiter | 4 Mar 17 | bay | gelding | Flat 9.2f · NH 2m3f | Flat 10.9f · NH 2m3½f |
Notnowcato (GB)
- Sire
- Notnowcato (GB)
- Damsire
- Topanoora (IRE)
- Breeder
- Clem & Greg Rossiter
- Foaled
- 4 Mar 17
- Colour
- bay
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 9.2f · NH 2m3f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 10.9f · NH 2m3½f
Progeny of Notnowcato (GB) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 1,087 | 109 | 264 | 8 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f | 444 | 47 | 104 | 4 | 0 | ||
| On Good going | 464 | 48 | 119 | 5 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f on Good going | 180 | 20 | 42 | 3 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 1,087
- Wins
- 109
- Placed
- 264
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 8
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 444
- Wins
- 47
- Placed
- 104
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 4
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good going
- Condition
- On Good going
- Runs
- 464
- Wins
- 48
- Placed
- 119
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 5
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good going
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f on Good going
- Runs
- 180
- Wins
- 20
- Placed
- 42
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Notnowcato (GB) × Topanoora (IRE) mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 8 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Not So Proper (IRE) | 8 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Not So Proper (IRE)
- Horse
- Not So Proper (IRE)
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 79 | 89 | 79 | 4 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 79
- Highest OR
- 89
- Lowest OR
- 79
- Rated runs
- 4
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
| Date | Course | Code | OR | Change | Pos |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2 Oct 26 | Gowran Park (IRE) | NH | 79 | -5 | 19/20 |
| 19 Feb 26 | Thurles (IRE) | NH | 84 | 2 | 16/17 |
| 15 Jan 26 | Fairyhouse (IRE) | NH | 82 | -7 | PU/15 |
| 24 May 22 | Punchestown (IRE) | NH | 89 | - | 16/19 |
- 19/202 Oct 26 · Gowran Park (IRE)
All fields
- Date
- 2 Oct 26
- Course
- Gowran Park (IRE)
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 79
- Change
- -5
- Pos
- 19/20
- 16/1719 Feb 26 · Thurles (IRE)
All fields
- Date
- 19 Feb 26
- Course
- Thurles (IRE)
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 84
- Change
- 2
- Pos
- 16/17
- PU/1515 Jan 26 · Fairyhouse (IRE)
All fields
- Date
- 15 Jan 26
- Course
- Fairyhouse (IRE)
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 82
- Change
- -7
- Pos
- PU/15
- 16/1924 May 22 · Punchestown (IRE)
All fields
- Date
- 24 May 22
- Course
- Punchestown (IRE)
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 89
- Change
- -
- Pos
- 16/19
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 79 | 79 | 0 | 89 | -10 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 79
- OR last run
- 79
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 89
- v highest
- -10
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 4 winners from 6 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Notnowcato (GB) out of So Proper (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Oscar (IRE)
- Stormy Oscar (IRE)1W · 20R
- So Oscar (IRE)1W · 11R
By Milan (GB)
- Motown Girl (IRE)1W · 6R
- Fly By Milan (IRE)1W · 7R
By Sageburg (IRE)
- Eddie Mush (IRE)0W · 8R
Female line
- 1So Proper (IRE) · by Topanoora (IRE)
- 2Miss Muppet (IRE) · by Supreme Leader (GB)
- 3Princess Piggy (GB)
Notable relatives
Uncle (out of 2nd dam)
- Down In Neworleans (IRE)6W · 17R · 1 black-type
First cousin
- Timeforwest (IRE)6W · 25R · 1 black-type
Aunt (out of 2nd dam)
- Chomba Womba (IRE)10W · 23R · 2 black-type
In brief
How old is Not So Proper?
Not So Proper (IRE) is a 9-year-old bay gelding, foaled on 4 March 2017.
Who are the sire and dam of Not So Proper?
Not So Proper (IRE) is by Notnowcato (GB) out of So Proper (IRE), a daughter of Topanoora (IRE), and was bred by Clem & Greg Rossiter.
Who trains Not So Proper?
Not So Proper (IRE) is trained by C Byrnes and owned by Byrnes Bloodstock Limited, and has run for no other trainer in Britain or Ireland.
What is Not So Proper's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Not So Proper (IRE) has run 8 times and is yet to win.
What is Not So Proper's official rating?
Not So Proper (IRE) is officially rated 79 over jumps (career high 89).
When did Not So Proper last run?
Not So Proper (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 2 October 2026 at Gowran Park (IRE) in the Racing TV Handicap Hurdle, finishing 19th of 20.
Is Not So Proper related to any top horses?
Not So Proper (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Down In Neworleans (IRE) (uncle, Grade 3 winner), Timeforwest (IRE) (first cousin, Grade 3 winner) and Chomba Womba (IRE) (aunt, Listed winner), from the Princess Piggy (GB) family.
What is Not So Proper's record at Kilbeggan (IRE)?
Not So Proper (IRE) has run most often at Kilbeggan (IRE), with no wins from 2 runs there.
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