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Horse profile

Never Cry Grief

Kemal (FR) × Fair Fantan (GB) (Red Alert I (GB))
Sex
mare
Foaled
1988
Record (GB & IRE)
0 wins from 3 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£0
Last run (GB & IRE)
19 Mar 1995, Navan (IRE) (6/15)
Last win (GB & IRE)
Never won
Recent form
1726

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtWinner / 2ndDaysFuture form
19 Mar 95Navan (IRE)6/158/17½Mr A WidgerMrs Marie M WidgerRoyal Tara I.N.H. Flat RaceNon-handicap (unclassified)NH Flat2mHeavy11-2Gentle Tune (IRE)120/12
7 Mar 95Clonmel (IRE)2/1014/14Mr A WidgerMrs Marie M WidgerKilsheelan I.N.H. Flat RaceNon-handicap (unclassified)NH Flat2mHeavy11-2Telltalk (IRE)2942/6
17 May 94Mallow (IRE)17/2120/114Miss L TownsleyMrs Marie M WidgerMunster INH Flat RaceNon-handicap (unclassified)NH Flat2m5fYielding to Soft11-2Lord Singapore (IRE)-2/17
  • 6/1519 Mar 95 · Navan (IRE)8/1

    Royal Tara I.N.H. Flat Race

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2mHeavy

    All fields
    Date
    19 Mar 95
    Pos
    6/15
    SP
    8/1
    Btn
    7½
    Race
    Royal Tara I.N.H. Flat Race
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Heavy
    Wgt
    11-2
    Winner / 2nd
    Gentle Tune (IRE)
    Days
    12
    Future form
    0/12
  • 2/107 Mar 95 · Clonmel (IRE)14/1

    Kilsheelan I.N.H. Flat Race

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2mHeavy

    All fields
    Date
    7 Mar 95
    Pos
    2/10
    SP
    14/1
    Btn
    4
    Race
    Kilsheelan I.N.H. Flat Race
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Heavy
    Wgt
    11-2
    Winner / 2nd
    Telltalk (IRE)
    Days
    294
    Future form
    2/6
  • 17/2117 May 94 · Mallow (IRE)20/1

    Munster INH Flat Race

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m5fYielding to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    17 May 94
    Course
    Mallow (IRE)
    Pos
    17/21
    SP
    20/1
    Btn
    14
    Race
    Munster INH Flat Race
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m5f
    Going
    Yielding to Soft
    Wgt
    11-2
    Days
    -
    Future form
    2/17

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
7 Mar 95Clonmel (IRE)Kilsheelan I.N.H. Flat Race2/10Telltalk (IRE)19 Mar 95Wexford (RH) (IRE)Pinnacle Handicap Hurdle
7 Mar 95Clonmel (IRE)Kilsheelan I.N.H. Flat Race2/10Niat Supreme (IRE)326 Jun 95Limerick (IRE)Dunraven Arms Hotel I.N.H. Flat Race
17 May 94Mallow (IRE)Munster INH Flat Race17/21Marlfield (IRE)723 May 94Roscommon (IRE)Kepak I.N.H. Flat Race
17 May 94Mallow (IRE)Munster INH Flat Race17/21Distant Lady (GB)117 Nov 94CarlisleBowness Novices' Hurdle
  • 2/107 Mar 95 · Clonmel (IRE)

    Kilsheelan I.N.H. Flat Race

    All fields
    Date
    7 Mar 95
    Race
    Kilsheelan I.N.H. Flat Race
    This horse
    2/10
    Winner next time
    Telltalk (IRE)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    9 Mar 95
    At
    Wexford (RH) (IRE)
    Race won
    Pinnacle Handicap Hurdle
  • 2/107 Mar 95 · Clonmel (IRE)

    Kilsheelan I.N.H. Flat Race

    All fields
    Date
    7 Mar 95
    Race
    Kilsheelan I.N.H. Flat Race
    This horse
    2/10
    Winner next time
    Niat Supreme (IRE)
    Their pos
    3
    Won on
    26 Jun 95
    Race won
    Dunraven Arms Hotel I.N.H. Flat Race
  • 17/2117 May 94 · Mallow (IRE)

    Munster INH Flat Race

    All fields
    Date
    17 May 94
    Course
    Mallow (IRE)
    Race
    Munster INH Flat Race
    This horse
    17/21
    Winner next time
    Marlfield (IRE)
    Their pos
    7
    Won on
    23 May 94
    Race won
    Kepak I.N.H. Flat Race
  • 17/2117 May 94 · Mallow (IRE)

    Munster INH Flat Race

    All fields
    Date
    17 May 94
    Course
    Mallow (IRE)
    Race
    Munster INH Flat Race
    This horse
    17/21
    Winner next time
    Distant Lady (GB)
    Their pos
    11
    Won on
    7 Nov 94
    Race won
    Bowness Novices' Hurdle

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Mrs Marie M Widger17 May 9419 Mar 9517/2130100.0%33.3%£0€0
Mrs Marie M Widger
First run
17 May 94
Last run
19 Mar 95
First run for yard
17/21
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)First runLast run
National Hunt30100.0%33.3%£0€017 May 9419 Mar 95
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
First run
17 May 94
Last run
19 Mar 95

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
NH Flat30100.0%33.3%£0€0
NH Flat
Race type
NH Flat
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Yielding to Soft10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Heavy20100.0%50.0%£0€0
Yielding to Soft
Going
Yielding to Soft
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Heavy
Going
Heavy
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
2m to 2m1f20100.0%50.0%£0€0
2m2f to 2m5f10000.0%0.0%£0€0
2m to 2m1f
Distance
2m to 2m1f
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
2m2f to 2m5f
Distance
2m2f to 2m5f
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Clonmel (IRE)10100.0%100.0%£0€0
Mallow (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Navan (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Clonmel (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Mallow (IRE)
Course
Mallow (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Navan (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Non-handicap (unclassified)30100.0%33.3%£0€0
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Class
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
9 to 12 runners10100.0%100.0%£0€0
13 to 16 runners10000.0%0.0%£0€0
17+ runners10000.0%0.0%£0€0
9 to 12 runners
Runners
9 to 12 runners
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
13 to 16 runners
Runners
13 to 16 runners
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
17+ runners
Runners
17+ runners
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
March20100.0%50.0%£0€0
May10000.0%0.0%£0€0
March
Month
March
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
May
Month
May
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Mr A Widger20100.0%50.0%£0€0
Miss L Townsley10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Mr A Widger
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Miss L Townsley
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Mrs Marie M Widger30100.0%33.3%£0€0
Mrs Marie M Widger
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear30100.0%33.3%£0€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10000.0%0.0%£0€0
8 to 14 days10000.0%0.0%£0€0
121 to 365 days10100.0%100.0%£0€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
8 to 14 days
Days since last run
8 to 14 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
121 to 365 days
Days since last run
121 to 365 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchKemal (FR)

Parent · 1

  1. SireKemal (FR)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchFair Fantan (GB)

Parent · 1

  1. DamFair Fantan (GB)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireRed Alert I (GB)
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Kemal (FR)
Fair Fantan (GB)
Not traced
Not traced
Red Alert I (GB)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseNever Cry Grief (IRE)
Sexmare
Foaled1988
SireKemal (FR)
DamFair Fantan (GB)
DamsireRed Alert I (GB)
Dam's produce0 winners from 4 runners
Notable siblingFitzpack (GB)

Female line

  1. Fair Fantan (GB) · 0 winners from 4 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Kemal (FR)Fair Fantan (GB)Red Alert I (GB)mareFlat 16.0f · NH 2m4½fFlat 7.2f · NH 2m1½f
Kemal (FR)
Sex
mare
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 16.0f · NH 2m4½f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 7.2f · NH 2m1½f

Progeny of Kemal (FR) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs2,13322256610.4%26.5%30
At 2m to 2m1f641571468.9%22.8%20
On Heavy going261337412.6%28.4%20
At 2m to 2m1f on Heavy going103122311.7%22.3%20
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
2,133
Wins
222
Placed
566
Win %
10.4%
Place %
26.5%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f
Runs
641
Wins
57
Placed
146
Win %
8.9%
Place %
22.8%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
On Heavy going
Condition
On Heavy going
Runs
261
Wins
33
Placed
74
Win %
12.6%
Place %
28.4%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f on Heavy going
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f on Heavy going
Runs
103
Wins
12
Placed
23
Win %
11.7%
Place %
22.3%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Kemal (FR) × Red Alert I mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt2150.0%0182211.1%£5,856€0
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
2
Winners
1
Winners %
50.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
18
Wins
2
2nd/3rd
2
Win %
11.1%
Prize GB (£)
£5,856
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Suvla Bay (IRE)1520£5,856€0
Never Cry Grief (IRE)300£0€0
Suvla Bay (IRE)
Runs
15
Wins
2
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£5,856
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Never Cry Grief (IRE)
Runs
3
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Family

Dam summary

Fair Fantan (GB)

G1 winners
0
Produce
0 winners from 4 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Kemal (FR) out of Fair Fantan (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Buckskin (FR)

By Floriferous (GB)

By Lafontaine I (USA)

Female line

  1. 1Fair Fantan (GB)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

View full Fair Fantan family

In brief

When was Never Cry Grief foaled?

Never Cry Grief (IRE) was foaled in 1988.

Who are the sire and dam of Never Cry Grief?

Never Cry Grief (IRE) is by Kemal (FR) out of Fair Fantan (GB), a daughter of Red Alert I (GB).

Who trained Never Cry Grief?

Never Cry Grief (IRE) was trained by Mrs Marie M Widger and owned by Mrs Marie M Widger at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Never Cry Grief's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Never Cry Grief (IRE) ran 3 times without winning.

Is Never Cry Grief still racing?

Never Cry Grief (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 19 March 1995 at Navan (IRE) in the Royal Tara I.N.H. Flat Race, finishing 6th of 15, and has not run there since.

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