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Illogical (GB) silks

Horse profile

Illogical

Sex
filly
Foaled
2012
Highest OR
75
Record (GB & IRE)
1 win from 4 runs (25%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£4,595 GB
Last official rating
75 (Flat)
Last run (GB & IRE)
11 Oct 2014, Wolverhampton (AW) (1/7)
Recent form
4321

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtORWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
11 Oct 14Wolverhampton (AW)1/72/1won ¾Robert HavlinEd DunlopLadbrokes EBF Stallions Maiden Stakes (Tapeta) (Div II)Class 5Flat AW6fStandard9-075Magical Effect (IRE)£2,911150/5
26 Sep 14Haydock2/107/1¾Paul MulrennanEd DunlopIrish Stallion Farms EBF Vale UK Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II)Class 5Flat Turf6fGood9-0-Goodnightsuzy (IRE)£2,911101/9
16 Sep 14Yarmouth3/118/16Robert HavlinEd DunlopBritish Stallion Studs/Greene King EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II)Class 5Flat Turf6fGood9-0-Queen's Pearl (IRE)£3,235252/10
22 Aug 14Newmarket (July)4/920/12½Robert HavlinEd DunlopTRM Celebrating 25 Years In Equine Nutrition EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)Class 4Flat Turf7fGood9-0-Mehronissa (GB)£4,528-1/7
  • 1/711 Oct 14 · Wolverhampton (AW)2/1

    Ladbrokes EBF Stallions Maiden Stakes (Tapeta) (Div II)

    Class 56fStandard

    All fields
    Date
    11 Oct 14
    Course
    Wolverhampton (AW)
    Pos
    1/7
    SP
    2/1
    Btn
    won ¾
    Trainer
    Ed Dunlop
    Race
    Ladbrokes EBF Stallions Maiden Stakes (Tapeta) (Div II)
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Flat AW
    Dist
    6f
    Going
    Standard
    Wgt
    9-0
    OR
    75
    Winner prize
    £2,911
    Days
    15
    Future form
    0/5
  • 2/1026 Sep 14 · Haydock7/1

    Irish Stallion Farms EBF Vale UK Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II)

    Class 56fGood

    All fields
    Date
    26 Sep 14
    Course
    Haydock
    Pos
    2/10
    SP
    7/1
    Btn
    ¾
    Trainer
    Ed Dunlop
    Race
    Irish Stallion Farms EBF Vale UK Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II)
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    6f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    9-0
    OR
    -
    Winner prize
    £2,911
    Days
    10
    Future form
    1/9
  • 3/1116 Sep 14 · Yarmouth8/1

    British Stallion Studs/Greene King EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II)

    Class 56fGood

    All fields
    Date
    16 Sep 14
    Course
    Yarmouth
    Pos
    3/11
    SP
    8/1
    Btn
    6
    Trainer
    Ed Dunlop
    Race
    British Stallion Studs/Greene King EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II)
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    6f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    9-0
    OR
    -
    Winner prize
    £3,235
    Days
    25
    Future form
    2/10
  • 4/922 Aug 14 · Newmarket (July)20/1

    TRM Celebrating 25 Years In Equine Nutrition EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)

    Class 47fGood

    All fields
    Date
    22 Aug 14
    Course
    Newmarket (July)
    Pos
    4/9
    SP
    20/1
    Btn
    2½
    Trainer
    Ed Dunlop
    Race
    TRM Celebrating 25 Years In Equine Nutrition EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    7f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    9-0
    OR
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Mehronissa (GB)
    Winner prize
    £4,528
    Days
    -
    Future form
    1/7

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
26 Sep 14HaydockIrish Stallion Farms EBF Vale UK Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II)2/10Signorina Roseina (GB)95 Jun 15CatterickGo Racing In Yorkshire Handicap
16 Sep 14YarmouthBritish Stallion Studs/Greene King EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II)3/11Exceedingly (GB)225 Oct 14Wolverhampton (AW)EBF Stallions Enjoy Daily Betting Tips @ Bookmakers.co.uk Maiden Stakes (Tapeta)
16 Sep 14YarmouthBritish Stallion Studs/Greene King EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II)3/11Muffri'Ha (IRE)527 Sep 14ChesterGolden Square Shopping Centre Maiden Fillies' Stakes
22 Aug 14Newmarket (July)TRM Celebrating 25 Years In Equine Nutrition EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)4/9Stay Silent (IRE)314 Oct 14Wolverhampton (AW)Price Boosts Now Available @ bookmakers.co.uk Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Tapeta)
  • 2/1026 Sep 14 · Haydock

    Irish Stallion Farms EBF Vale UK Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II)

    All fields
    Date
    26 Sep 14
    Course
    Haydock
    Race
    Irish Stallion Farms EBF Vale UK Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II)
    This horse
    2/10
    Winner next time
    Signorina Roseina (GB)
    Their pos
    9
    Won on
    5 Jun 15
    Race won
    Go Racing In Yorkshire Handicap
  • 3/1116 Sep 14 · Yarmouth

    British Stallion Studs/Greene King EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II)

    All fields
    Date
    16 Sep 14
    Course
    Yarmouth
    Race
    British Stallion Studs/Greene King EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II)
    This horse
    3/11
    Winner next time
    Exceedingly (GB)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    25 Oct 14
    At
    Wolverhampton (AW)
    Race won
    EBF Stallions Enjoy Daily Betting Tips @ Bookmakers.co.uk Maiden Stakes (Tapeta)
  • 3/1116 Sep 14 · Yarmouth

    British Stallion Studs/Greene King EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II)

    All fields
    Date
    16 Sep 14
    Course
    Yarmouth
    Race
    British Stallion Studs/Greene King EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II)
    This horse
    3/11
    Winner next time
    Muffri'Ha (IRE)
    Their pos
    5
    Won on
    27 Sep 14
    Race won
    Golden Square Shopping Centre Maiden Fillies' Stakes
  • 4/922 Aug 14 · Newmarket (July)

    TRM Celebrating 25 Years In Equine Nutrition EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)

    All fields
    Date
    22 Aug 14
    Course
    Newmarket (July)
    Race
    TRM Celebrating 25 Years In Equine Nutrition EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
    This horse
    4/9
    Winner next time
    Stay Silent (IRE)
    Their pos
    3
    Won on
    14 Oct 14
    At
    Wolverhampton (AW)
    Race won
    Price Boosts Now Available @ bookmakers.co.uk Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Tapeta)

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardOR first runOR last runBest ORRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Ed Dunlop22 Aug 1411 Oct 144/9757575411125.0%75.0%£4,595€0
Ed Dunlop
Trainer
Ed Dunlop
First run
22 Aug 14
Last run
11 Oct 14
First run for yard
4/9
OR first run
75
OR last run
75
Best OR
75
Runs
4
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
25.0%
Place %
75.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,595
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)Best ORFirst runLast run
Flat411125.0%75.0%£4,595€07522 Aug 1411 Oct 14
Flat
Code
Flat
Runs
4
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
25.0%
Place %
75.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,595
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Best OR
75
First run
22 Aug 14
Last run
11 Oct 14

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Flat Turf30110.0%66.7%£1,684€0
Flat AW1100100.0%100.0%£2,911€0
Flat Turf
Race type
Flat Turf
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£1,684
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Flat AW
Race type
Flat AW
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,911
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Good30110.0%66.7%£1,684€0
Standard1100100.0%100.0%£2,911€0
Good
Going
Good
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£1,684
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Standard
Going
Standard
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,911
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
5f to 6f311133.3%100.0%£4,258€0
7f to 1m10000.0%0.0%£337€0
5f to 6f
Distance
5f to 6f
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
33.3%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,258
Prize IRE (€)
€0
7f to 1m
Distance
7f to 1m
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£337
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Wolverhampton (AW)1100100.0%100.0%£2,911€0
Haydock10100.0%100.0%£866€0
Newmarket (July)10000.0%0.0%£337€0
Yarmouth10010.0%100.0%£481€0
Wolverhampton (AW)
Course
Wolverhampton (AW)
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,911
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Haydock
Course
Haydock
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£866
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Newmarket (July)
Course
Newmarket (July)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£337
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Yarmouth
Course
Yarmouth
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£481
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Class 410000.0%0.0%£337€0
Class 5311133.3%100.0%£4,258€0
Class 4
Class
Class 4
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£337
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Class 5
Class
Class 5
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
33.3%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,258
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
6 to 8 runners1100100.0%100.0%£2,911€0
9 to 12 runners30110.0%66.7%£1,684€0
6 to 8 runners
Runners
6 to 8 runners
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,911
Prize IRE (€)
€0
9 to 12 runners
Runners
9 to 12 runners
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£1,684
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
August10000.0%0.0%£337€0
September20110.0%100.0%£1,347€0
October1100100.0%100.0%£2,911€0
August
Month
August
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£337
Prize IRE (€)
€0
September
Month
September
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,347
Prize IRE (€)
€0
October
Month
October
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,911
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Robert Havlin310133.3%66.7%£3,729€0
Paul Mulrennan10100.0%100.0%£866€0
Robert Havlin
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
33.3%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£3,729
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Paul Mulrennan
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£866
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Ed Dunlop411125.0%75.0%£4,595€0
Ed Dunlop
Trainer
Ed Dunlop
Runs
4
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
25.0%
Place %
75.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,595
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear411125.0%75.0%£4,595€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
4
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
25.0%
Place %
75.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,595
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10000.0%0.0%£337€0
8 to 14 days10100.0%100.0%£866€0
15 to 30 days210150.0%100.0%£3,392€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£337
Prize IRE (€)
€0
8 to 14 days
Days since last run
8 to 14 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£866
Prize IRE (€)
€0
15 to 30 days
Days since last run
15 to 30 days
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
50.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£3,392
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchPaco Boy (IRE)

Parent · 1

  1. SirePaco Boy (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireDesert Style (IRE)
  2. Sire's damTappen Zee (GB)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchLogic (GB)

Parent · 1

  1. DamLogic (GB)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireSlip Anchor (GB)
  2. Dam's damDocklandsI (GB)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
DocklandsI (GB)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseIllogical (GB)
Sexfilly
Foaled2012
SirePaco Boy (IRE)
DamLogic (GB)
DamsireSlip Anchor (GB)
Sire's sireDesert Style (IRE)
Sire's damTappen Zee (GB)
2nd damDocklandsI (GB)
Dam's produce10 winners from 11 runners
Notable siblingCogent (GB)

Female line

  1. Logic (GB) · by Slip Anchor (GB) · 10 winners from 11 runners
  2. DocklandsI (GB) · 2 winners from 6 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Paco Boy (IRE)Logic (GB)Slip Anchor (GB)fillyFlat 7.4f · NH 2m½fFlat 9.3f · NH 2m3f
Paco Boy (IRE)
Sex
filly
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 7.4f · NH 2m½f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 9.3f · NH 2m3f

Progeny of Paco Boy (IRE) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All Flat runs3,1192938259.4%26.5%41
At 5f to 6f1,14012031010.5%27.2%31
On AW going1,1571062919.2%25.2%11
At 5f to 6f on AW going369429711.4%26.3%11
All Flat runs
Condition
All Flat runs
Runs
3,119
Wins
293
Placed
825
Win %
9.4%
Place %
26.5%
This horse runs
4
This horse wins
1
At 5f to 6f
Condition
At 5f to 6f
Runs
1,140
Wins
120
Placed
310
Win %
10.5%
Place %
27.2%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
1
On AW going
Condition
On AW going
Runs
1,157
Wins
106
Placed
291
Win %
9.2%
Place %
25.2%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
1
At 5f to 6f on AW going
Condition
At 5f to 6f on AW going
Runs
369
Wins
42
Placed
97
Win %
11.4%
Place %
26.3%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
1

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Paco Boy (IRE) × Slip Anchor mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Flat2150.0%091211.1%£5,148€0
Flat
Code
Flat
Runners
2
Winners
1
Winners %
50.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
9
Wins
1
2nd/3rd
2
Win %
11.1%
Prize GB (£)
£5,148
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Illogical (GB)410£4,595€0
Cogent (GB)500£553€0
Illogical (GB)
Runs
4
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£4,595
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Cogent (GB)
Runs
5
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£553
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Ratings

Official ratings

CodeCurrent ORHighest ORLowest ORLast winning ORLast winRated runs
Flat7575757511 Oct 141
Flat
Code
Flat
Current OR
75
Highest OR
75
Lowest OR
75
Last winning OR
75
Last win
11 Oct 14
Rated runs
1

Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.

Official rating by run

DateCourseCodeORPos
11 Oct 14Wolverhampton (AW)Flat751/7
  • 1/711 Oct 14 · Wolverhampton (AW)
    All fields
    Date
    11 Oct 14
    Course
    Wolverhampton (AW)
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    75
    Pos
    1/7

Current mark v winning marks

CodeCurrent OROR last runChangeLast winning ORLast winv last winningHighest winning ORv highest winningHighest ORv highest
Flat757507511 Oct 140750750
Flat
Code
Flat
Current OR
75
OR last run
75
Change
0
Last winning OR
75
Last win
11 Oct 14
v last winning
0
Highest winning OR
75
v highest winning
0
Highest OR
75
v highest
0

Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.

Family

Dam summary

Logic (GB)

G1 winners
0
Produce
10 winners from 11 runners

Full siblings

Half siblings

By Polish Precedent (USA)

By Entrepreneur (GB)

By Singspiel (IRE)

By Desert Prince (IRE)

By King's Best (USA)

By Nayef (USA)

By Motivator (GB)

By Dubawi (IRE)

By Helmet (AUS)

Female line

  1. 1Logic (GB) · by Slip Anchor (GB)
  2. 2DocklandsI (GB)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

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In brief

When was Illogical foaled?

Illogical (GB) was foaled in 2012.

Who are the sire and dam of Illogical?

Illogical (GB) is by Paco Boy (IRE) out of Logic (GB), a daughter of Slip Anchor (GB).

Who trained Illogical?

Illogical (GB) was trained by Ed Dunlop and owned by R J W J Gredley at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Illogical's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Illogical (GB) won 1 of 4 races (25%).

What is Illogical's biggest win?

Illogical (GB)'s only win in Britain or Ireland came in the Ladbrokes EBF Stallions Maiden Stakes (Tapeta) at Wolverhampton (AW) on 11 October 2014.

Has Illogical ever been beaten?

Illogical (GB) was beaten 3 times in 4 runs in Britain and Ireland, the first time on 22 August 2014 at Newmarket (July) (4th of 9).

What was Illogical's official rating?

Illogical (GB) was last officially rated 75 on the Flat (also the career high).

Is Illogical still racing?

Illogical (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 11 October 2014 at Wolverhampton (AW) in the Ladbrokes EBF Stallions Maiden Stakes (Tapeta), finishing 1st of 7, and has not run there since.

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