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Horse profile
If And When
- TrainerRichard Price
- OwnerMrs V J Morse
- FamilyJubilee Song I
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 2008
- Highest OR
- 84
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 10 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last official rating
- 84 (Jumps)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 22 Aug 2014, Ffos Las (PU/7)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Recent form
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Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Headgear | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 22 Aug 14 | Ffos Las | PU/7 | 25/1 | - | Conor Shoemark | Richard Price | CP Hire Mobile Handicap Chase | Class 4 | Chase | 2m5f | Good | 9-11 | 84 | t | Strumble Head (IRE) | £3,769 | 24 | 1/5 |
| 29 Jul 14 | Worcester | 5/6 | 8/1 | 12¾ | Conor Shoemark | Richard Price | Bathroom Studio & Ideal Construction Handicap Chase | Class 5 | Chase | 2m½f | Good to Firm | 9-9 | 74 | t | Hopeand (GB) | £2,274 | 9 | 1/4 |
| 20 Jul 14 | Stratford | UR/7 | 20/1 | - | Conor Shoemark | Richard Price | Jackie Ebsworth Memorial Novices' Handicap Chase | Class 4 | Chase | 2m1f | Good to Soft | 9-11 | 81 | t | Princesse Fleur (GB) | £4,549 | 13 | 0/6 |
| 7 Jul 14 | Newton Abbot | 9/12 | 125/1 | dist | Nick Scholfield | Richard Price | Visit Newton Abbot Racecourse On Facebook Maiden Hurdle | Class 5 | Hurdle | 2m2½f | Good | 11-0 | - | tp | Bohemian Rhapsody (IRE) | £2,738 | 144 | 0/10 |
| 13 Feb 14 | Leicester | 8/10 | 150/1 | dist | Mr Geoff Barfoot-Saunt | Mrs V J Morse | CGA Foxhunter Trial Novices' Hunters' Chase (for The Dick Saunders Trophy) | Class 6 | Chase | 2m4f | Soft | 12-0 | - | - | Shy John (GB) | £1,560 | 646 | 0/8 |
| 8 May 12 | Fakenham | PU/7 | 200/1 | - | Colin Bolger | Christine Dunnett | Bhest Racing To School Selling Hurdle | Class 5 | Hurdle | 2m | Soft | 10-8 | - | - | Lilac Belle (GB) | £2,053 | 53 | 0/5 |
| 16 Mar 12 | Fakenham | PU/11 | 200/1 | - | Mark Marris | Christine Dunnett | Say Yes To Better Broadband Conditional Jockeys' Maiden Hurdle | Class 4 | Hurdle | 2m | Good | 10-5 | - | - | Wom (GB) | £2,924 | 21 | 0/8 |
| 24 Feb 12 | Warwick | 12/12 | 125/1 | dist | Mr Matthew Smith | Christine Dunnett | Charlie Longsdon Racing Juvenile Hurdle | Class 4 | Hurdle | 2m | Good | 10-5 | - | - | One Lucky Lady (GB) | £2,534 | 12 | 1/10 |
| 12 Feb 12 | Southwell (AW) | 11/11 | 100/1 | dist | Alex Merriam | Christine Dunnett | Blue Square Winter Carnival iPhone App Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race | Class 6 | NH Flat | 2m | Standard to Slow | 10-5 | - | - | Regal Encore (IRE) | £1,437 | 16 | 2/10 |
| 27 Jan 12 | Fontwell | 9/10 | 66/1 | dist | Colin Bolger | Christine Dunnett | digibet.com Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race | Class 6 | NH Flat | 1m5½f | Heavy | 10-7 | - | - | Il Presidente (GER) | £1,437 | - | 0/7 |
CP Hire Mobile Handicap Chase
Class 42m5fGood
All fields
- Date
- 22 Aug 14
- Course
- Ffos Las
- Pos
- PU/7
- SP
- 25/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Conor Shoemark
- Trainer
- Richard Price
- Race
- CP Hire Mobile Handicap Chase
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Chase
- Dist
- 2m5f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 9-11
- OR
- 84
- Headgear
- t
- Winner / 2nd
- Strumble Head (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,769
- Days
- 24
- Future form
- 1/5
Bathroom Studio & Ideal Construction Handicap Chase
Class 52m½fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 29 Jul 14
- Course
- Worcester
- Pos
- 5/6
- SP
- 8/1
- Btn
- 12¾
- Jockey
- Conor Shoemark
- Trainer
- Richard Price
- Race
- Bathroom Studio & Ideal Construction Handicap Chase
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Chase
- Dist
- 2m½f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 9-9
- OR
- 74
- Headgear
- t
- Winner / 2nd
- Hopeand (GB)
- Winner prize
- £2,274
- Days
- 9
- Future form
- 1/4
Jackie Ebsworth Memorial Novices' Handicap Chase
Class 42m1fGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 20 Jul 14
- Course
- Stratford
- Pos
- UR/7
- SP
- 20/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Conor Shoemark
- Trainer
- Richard Price
- Race
- Jackie Ebsworth Memorial Novices' Handicap Chase
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Chase
- Dist
- 2m1f
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 9-11
- OR
- 81
- Headgear
- t
- Winner / 2nd
- Princesse Fleur (GB)
- Winner prize
- £4,549
- Days
- 13
- Future form
- 0/6
Visit Newton Abbot Racecourse On Facebook Maiden Hurdle
Class 52m2½fGood
All fields
- Date
- 7 Jul 14
- Course
- Newton Abbot
- Pos
- 9/12
- SP
- 125/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Nick Scholfield
- Trainer
- Richard Price
- Race
- Visit Newton Abbot Racecourse On Facebook Maiden Hurdle
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m2½f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 11-0
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- tp
- Winner / 2nd
- Bohemian Rhapsody (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £2,738
- Days
- 144
- Future form
- 0/10
CGA Foxhunter Trial Novices' Hunters' Chase (for The Dick Saunders Trophy)
Class 62m4fSoft
All fields
- Date
- 13 Feb 14
- Course
- Leicester
- Pos
- 8/10
- SP
- 150/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Mr Geoff Barfoot-Saunt
- Trainer
- Mrs V J Morse
- Race
- CGA Foxhunter Trial Novices' Hunters' Chase (for The Dick Saunders Trophy)
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Chase
- Dist
- 2m4f
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 12-0
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Shy John (GB)
- Winner prize
- £1,560
- Days
- 646
- Future form
- 0/8
Bhest Racing To School Selling Hurdle
Class 52mSoft
All fields
- Date
- 8 May 12
- Course
- Fakenham
- Pos
- PU/7
- SP
- 200/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Colin Bolger
- Trainer
- Christine Dunnett
- Race
- Bhest Racing To School Selling Hurdle
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 10-8
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Lilac Belle (GB)
- Winner prize
- £2,053
- Days
- 53
- Future form
- 0/5
Say Yes To Better Broadband Conditional Jockeys' Maiden Hurdle
Class 42mGood
All fields
- Date
- 16 Mar 12
- Course
- Fakenham
- Pos
- PU/11
- SP
- 200/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Mark Marris
- Trainer
- Christine Dunnett
- Race
- Say Yes To Better Broadband Conditional Jockeys' Maiden Hurdle
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 10-5
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Wom (GB)
- Winner prize
- £2,924
- Days
- 21
- Future form
- 0/8
Charlie Longsdon Racing Juvenile Hurdle
Class 42mGood
All fields
- Date
- 24 Feb 12
- Course
- Warwick
- Pos
- 12/12
- SP
- 125/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Mr Matthew Smith
- Trainer
- Christine Dunnett
- Race
- Charlie Longsdon Racing Juvenile Hurdle
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 10-5
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- One Lucky Lady (GB)
- Winner prize
- £2,534
- Days
- 12
- Future form
- 1/10
- 11/1112 Feb 12 · Southwell (AW)100/1
Blue Square Winter Carnival iPhone App Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
Class 62mStandard to Slow
All fields
- Date
- 12 Feb 12
- Course
- Southwell (AW)
- Pos
- 11/11
- SP
- 100/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Alex Merriam
- Trainer
- Christine Dunnett
- Race
- Blue Square Winter Carnival iPhone App Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Standard to Slow
- Wgt
- 10-5
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Regal Encore (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £1,437
- Days
- 16
- Future form
- 2/10
digibet.com Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
Class 61m5½fHeavy
All fields
- Date
- 27 Jan 12
- Course
- Fontwell
- Pos
- 9/10
- SP
- 66/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Colin Bolger
- Trainer
- Christine Dunnett
- Race
- digibet.com Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 1m5½f
- Going
- Heavy
- Wgt
- 10-7
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Il Presidente (GER)
- Winner prize
- £1,437
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 0/7
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 22 Aug 14 | Ffos Las | CP Hire Mobile Handicap Chase | PU/7 | Islandmagee (IRE) | 3 | 30 Sep 14 | Chepstow | TheBookiesOffers.co.uk For The Best Bookies Offers Handicap Chase |
| 29 Jul 14 | Worcester | Bathroom Studio & Ideal Construction Handicap Chase | 5/6 | Capisci (IRE) | 2 | 25 Aug 14 | Huntingdon | Liz Broughton Celebration Handicap Chase |
| 24 Feb 12 | Warwick | Charlie Longsdon Racing Juvenile Hurdle | 12/12 | Miss Tique (FR) | 2 | 22 Mar 12 | Chepstow | Competent Roofer Mares' Novices' Hurdle |
| 12 Feb 12 | Southwell (AW) | Blue Square Winter Carnival iPhone App Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race | 11/11 | Regal Encore (IRE) | 1 | 13 Oct 12 | Chepstow | Enough Said Just Bet At bluesq.com Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race |
| 12 Feb 12 | Southwell (AW) | Blue Square Winter Carnival iPhone App Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race | 11/11 | Ron (GB) | 2 | 2 Mar 12 | Doncaster | 32Redpoker.com Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race |
- PU/722 Aug 14 · Ffos Las
CP Hire Mobile Handicap Chase
All fields
- Date
- 22 Aug 14
- Course
- Ffos Las
- Race
- CP Hire Mobile Handicap Chase
- This horse
- PU/7
- Winner next time
- Islandmagee (IRE)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 30 Sep 14
- At
- Chepstow
- Race won
- TheBookiesOffers.co.uk For The Best Bookies Offers Handicap Chase
- 5/629 Jul 14 · Worcester
Bathroom Studio & Ideal Construction Handicap Chase
All fields
- Date
- 29 Jul 14
- Course
- Worcester
- Race
- Bathroom Studio & Ideal Construction Handicap Chase
- This horse
- 5/6
- Winner next time
- Capisci (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 25 Aug 14
- Race won
- Liz Broughton Celebration Handicap Chase
- 12/1224 Feb 12 · Warwick
Charlie Longsdon Racing Juvenile Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 24 Feb 12
- Course
- Warwick
- Race
- Charlie Longsdon Racing Juvenile Hurdle
- This horse
- 12/12
- Winner next time
- Miss Tique (FR)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 22 Mar 12
- At
- Chepstow
- Race won
- Competent Roofer Mares' Novices' Hurdle
- 11/1112 Feb 12 · Southwell (AW)
Blue Square Winter Carnival iPhone App Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
All fields
- Date
- 12 Feb 12
- Course
- Southwell (AW)
- Race
- Blue Square Winter Carnival iPhone App Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
- This horse
- 11/11
- Winner next time
- Regal Encore (IRE)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 13 Oct 12
- At
- Chepstow
- Race won
- Enough Said Just Bet At bluesq.com Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
- 11/1112 Feb 12 · Southwell (AW)
Blue Square Winter Carnival iPhone App Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | Moved from | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Richard Price | Mrs V J Morse | 7 Jul 14 | 22 Aug 14 | 9/12 | 81 | 84 | 84 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Mrs V J Morse | Christine Dunnett | 13 Feb 14 | 13 Feb 14 | 8/10 | - | - | - | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Christine Dunnett | - | 27 Jan 12 | 8 May 12 | 9/10 | - | - | - | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Richard Price
- Trainer
- Richard Price
- Moved from
- Mrs V J Morse
- First run
- 7 Jul 14
- Last run
- 22 Aug 14
- First run for yard
- 9/12
- OR first run
- 81
- OR last run
- 84
- Best OR
- 84
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Mrs V J Morse
- Trainer
- Mrs V J Morse
- Moved from
- Christine Dunnett
- First run
- 13 Feb 14
- Last run
- 13 Feb 14
- First run for yard
- 8/10
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Christine Dunnett
- Trainer
- Christine Dunnett
- First run
- 27 Jan 12
- Last run
- 8 May 12
- First run for yard
- 9/10
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Spells with each trainer in race order, latest first (a horse that returns to a trainer shows a new spell). From British and Irish runs since 1990.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 84 | 27 Jan 12 | 22 Aug 14 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 84
- First run
- 27 Jan 12
- Last run
- 22 Aug 14
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Chase | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| NH Flat | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Hurdle
- Race type
- Hurdle
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Chase
- Race type
- Chase
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
NH Flat
- Race type
- NH Flat
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Good | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Soft | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Standard to Slow | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Good to Firm
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good to Soft
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Soft
- Going
- Soft
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Heavy
- Going
- Heavy
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Standard to Slow
- Going
- Standard to Slow
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m to 2m1f | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 2m2f to 2m5f | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
2m to 2m1f
- Distance
- 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
2m2f to 2m5f
- Distance
- 2m2f to 2m5f
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fakenham | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Ffos Las | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Fontwell | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Leicester | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Newton Abbot | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Southwell (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Stratford | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Warwick | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Worcester | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Fakenham
- Course
- Fakenham
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Ffos Las
- Course
- Ffos Las
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Fontwell
- Course
- Fontwell
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Leicester
- Course
- Leicester
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Newton Abbot
- Course
- Newton Abbot
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Southwell (AW)
- Course
- Southwell (AW)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Stratford
- Course
- Stratford
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Warwick
- Course
- Warwick
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Worcester
- Course
- Worcester
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Class 5 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Class 6 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Class 4
- Class
- Class 4
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 5
- Class
- Class 5
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 6
- Class
- Class 6
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6 to 8 runners | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 9 to 12 runners | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
6 to 8 runners
- Runners
- 6 to 8 runners
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| January | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| February | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| March | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| May | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| July | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| August | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
January
- Month
- January
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
February
- Month
- February
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
March
- Month
- March
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
May
- Month
- May
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
July
- Month
- July
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
August
- Month
- August
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Conor Shoemark | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Colin Bolger | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Alex Merriam | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Mark Marris | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Mr Geoff Barfoot-Saunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Mr Matthew Smith | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Nick Scholfield | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Conor Shoemark
- Jockey
- Conor Shoemark
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Colin Bolger
- Jockey
- Colin Bolger
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Alex Merriam
- Jockey
- Alex Merriam
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Mark Marris
- Jockey
- Mark Marris
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Mr Geoff Barfoot-Saunt
- Jockey
- Mr Geoff Barfoot-Saunt
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Mr Matthew Smith
- Jockey
- Mr Matthew Smith
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Nick Scholfield
- Jockey
- Nick Scholfield
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Christine Dunnett | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Richard Price | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Mrs V J Morse | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Christine Dunnett
- Trainer
- Christine Dunnett
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Richard Price
- Trainer
- Richard Price
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Mrs V J Morse
- Trainer
- Mrs V J Morse
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| t | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| tp | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
t
- Headgear
- t
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
tp
- Headgear
- tp
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 8 to 14 days | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 121 to 365 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Over a year | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
8 to 14 days
- Days since last run
- 8 to 14 days
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
121 to 365 days
- Days since last run
- 121 to 365 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Over a year
- Days since last run
- Over a year
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
By first-time headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| First time in any headgear | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| First time cheekpieces | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| First time tongue strap | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Headgear, all items worn before | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| No headgear | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
First time in any headgear
- Headgear
- First time in any headgear
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
First time cheekpieces
- Headgear
- First time cheekpieces
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
First time tongue strap
- Headgear
- First time tongue strap
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear, all items worn before
- Headgear
- Headgear, all items worn before
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
A run can count in more than one "first time" row (e.g. first-time blinkers and first headgear of any kind). First time is judged against earlier British and Irish runs only.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchWhere Or When (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireDanehill Dancer (IRE)
- Sire's damFuture Past (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchPardon Moi (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireFirst Trump (GB)
- Dam's damMystical Song (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireMystiko (USA)
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Mystical Song (GB)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Mystiko (USA)
Not traced
Breeding card
HorseIf And When (GB)
Sexgelding
Foaled2008
SireWhere Or When (IRE)
DamPardon Moi (GB)
DamsireFirst Trump (GB)
Sire's sireDanehill Dancer (IRE)
Sire's damFuture Past (USA)
2nd damMystical Song (GB)
2nd dam's sireMystiko (USA)
Dam's produce0 winners from 2 runners
Notable siblingAvec Moi (GB)
Female line
- Pardon Moi (GB) · by First Trump (GB) · 0 winners from 2 runners
- Mystical Song (GB) · by Mystiko (USA) · 2 winners from 3 runners
- Jubilee Song I (GB) · 4 winners from 7 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Where Or When (IRE) | Pardon Moi (GB) | First Trump (GB) | gelding | Flat 10.2f · NH 2m1½f | Flat 7.0f · NH 2m5f |
Where Or When (IRE)
- Damsire
- First Trump (GB)
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 10.2f · NH 2m1½f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 7.0f · NH 2m5f
Progeny of Where Or When (IRE) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 498 | 39 | 103 | 10 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f | 295 | 26 | 73 | 7 | 0 | ||
| On Good going | 181 | 18 | 38 | 4 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f on Good going | 101 | 8 | 23 | 2 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 498
- Wins
- 39
- Placed
- 103
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 10
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 295
- Wins
- 26
- Placed
- 73
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 7
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good going
- Condition
- On Good going
- Runs
- 181
- Wins
- 18
- Placed
- 38
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 4
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good going
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f on Good going
- Runs
- 101
- Wins
- 8
- Placed
- 23
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Where Or When (IRE) × First Trump mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 10 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| If And When (GB) | 10 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
If And When (GB)
- Horse
- If And When (GB)
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 84 | 84 | 74 | 3 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 84
- Highest OR
- 84
- Lowest OR
- 74
- Rated runs
- 3
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 84 | 84 | 0 | 84 | 0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 84
- OR last run
- 84
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 84
- v highest
- 0
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 0 winners from 2 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Where Or When (IRE) out of Pardon Moi (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Reset (AUS)
- Avec Moi (GB)0W · 36R
Female line
- 1Pardon Moi (GB) · by First Trump (GB)
- 2Mystical Song (GB) · by Mystiko (USA)
- 3Jubilee Song I (GB)
Notable relatives
First cousin once removed
- Abou Zouz (USA)3W · 9R · 1 black-type
- Jentzen (USA)3W · 9R · 1 black-type
- Mirza (GB)7W · 48R · 1 black-type
Great-aunt (out of 3rd dam)
- Millyant (GB)2W · 15R · 1 black-type
- Bold Jessie (GB)1W · 6R · 1 black-type
In brief
When was If And When foaled?
If And When (GB) was foaled in 2008.
Who are the sire and dam of If And When?
If And When (GB) is by Where Or When (IRE) out of Pardon Moi (GB), a daughter of First Trump (GB).
Who trained If And When?
If And When (GB) was trained by Richard Price and owned by Mrs V J Morse at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland, having also run for 2 other trainers.
What is If And When's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, If And When (GB) ran 10 times without winning.
What was If And When's official rating?
If And When (GB) was last officially rated 84 over jumps (also the career high).
Is If And When still racing?
If And When (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 22 August 2014 at Ffos Las in the CP Hire Mobile Handicap Chase (result: pulled up, 7 ran), and has not run there since.
Is If And When related to any top horses?
If And When (GB)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Abou Zouz (USA) (first cousin once removed, Group 2 winner), Millyant (GB) (great-aunt, Group 3 winner) and Bold Jessie (GB) (great-aunt, Listed winner), from the Jubilee Song I (GB) family.
What is If And When's record at Fakenham?
If And When (GB) ran most often at Fakenham, with no wins from 2 runs there.
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