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Horse profile
Forbidden Waters
- TrainerA J Tizzard
- OwnerA J Tizzard
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 1991
- Highest OR
- 78
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 1 win from 6 runs (17%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £3,002 GB
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 5 May 2001, Exeter (PU/15)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- 14 Apr 1997, Southwell
Recent form
11913PUPU
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5 May 01 | Exeter | PU/15 | 20/1 | - | Miss C Tizzard | A J Tizzard | Maristow Shoot Open Hunters' Chase Class H | Class 6 | Chase | 2m7½f | Good | 11-7 | - | Bright Approach I (IRE) | £1,715 | 28 | 1/9 |
| 7 Apr 01 | Newbury | PU/25 | 20/1 | - | Miss C Tizzard | A J Tizzard | Stan James Open 24 Hours Hunters' Chase Class H | Class 6 | Chase | 3m2f | Soft | 11-5 | - | Blanville I (FR) | £2,926 | 1,424 | 2/18 |
| 14 May 97 | Huntingdon | 3/9 | 100/30 | 10¼ | Norman Williamson | Venetia Williams | Health Spa Water Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class E | Class 4 | Hurdle | 3m1f | Good to Firm | 10-9 | 78 | Ardent Love (IRE) | £2,408 | 30 | 1/6 |
| 14 Apr 97 | Southwell | 1/13 | 7/2 | won 2 | Norman Williamson | Venetia Williams | Black And Tan 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class E | Class 4 | Hurdle | 2m4½f | Good | 11-0 | - | If Only I (GB) | £2,679 | 74 | 0/10 |
| 30 Jan 97 | Towcester | 9/18 | 33/1 | dist | Andrew Thornton | Venetia Williams | Castle Ashby Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Class H | Class 6 | NH Flat | 2m | Good to Soft | 11-3 | - | Red Brook (GB) | £1,371 | 253 | 1/16 |
| 22 May 96 | Worcester | 11/16 | 8/1 | dist | Mark Dwyer | J A C Edwards | Shrawley Standard Open National Hunt Flat (Div II) | Class 6 | NH Flat | 2m | Good | 11-0 | - | Friendship I (IRE) | £1,333 | - | 0/12 |
Maristow Shoot Open Hunters' Chase Class H
Class 62m7½fGood
All fields
- Date
- 5 May 01
- Course
- Exeter
- Pos
- PU/15
- SP
- 20/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Miss C Tizzard
- Trainer
- A J Tizzard
- Race
- Maristow Shoot Open Hunters' Chase Class H
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Chase
- Dist
- 2m7½f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 11-7
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Bright Approach I (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £1,715
- Days
- 28
- Future form
- 1/9
Stan James Open 24 Hours Hunters' Chase Class H
Class 63m2fSoft
All fields
- Date
- 7 Apr 01
- Course
- Newbury
- Pos
- PU/25
- SP
- 20/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Miss C Tizzard
- Trainer
- A J Tizzard
- Race
- Stan James Open 24 Hours Hunters' Chase Class H
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Chase
- Dist
- 3m2f
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 11-5
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Blanville I (FR)
- Winner prize
- £2,926
- Days
- 1,424
- Future form
- 2/18
Health Spa Water Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class E
Class 43m1fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 14 May 97
- Course
- Huntingdon
- Pos
- 3/9
- SP
- 100/30
- Btn
- 10¼
- Jockey
- Norman Williamson
- Trainer
- Venetia Williams
- Race
- Health Spa Water Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class E
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 3m1f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 10-9
- OR
- 78
- Winner / 2nd
- Ardent Love (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £2,408
- Days
- 30
- Future form
- 1/6
Black And Tan 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class E
Class 42m4½fGood
All fields
- Date
- 14 Apr 97
- Course
- Southwell
- Pos
- 1/13
- SP
- 7/2
- Btn
- won 2
- Jockey
- Norman Williamson
- Trainer
- Venetia Williams
- Race
- Black And Tan 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class E
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m4½f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 11-0
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- If Only I (GB)
- Winner prize
- £2,679
- Days
- 74
- Future form
- 0/10
- 9/1830 Jan 97 · Towcester33/1
Castle Ashby Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Class H
Class 62mGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 30 Jan 97
- Course
- Towcester
- Pos
- 9/18
- SP
- 33/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Andrew Thornton
- Trainer
- Venetia Williams
- Race
- Castle Ashby Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Class H
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 11-3
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Red Brook (GB)
- Winner prize
- £1,371
- Days
- 253
- Future form
- 1/16
Shrawley Standard Open National Hunt Flat (Div II)
Class 62mGood
All fields
- Date
- 22 May 96
- Course
- Worcester
- Pos
- 11/16
- SP
- 8/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Mark Dwyer
- Trainer
- J A C Edwards
- Race
- Shrawley Standard Open National Hunt Flat (Div II)
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 11-0
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Friendship I (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £1,333
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 0/12
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5 May 01 | Exeter | Maristow Shoot Open Hunters' Chase Class H | PU/15 | Badger Beer (GB) | 10 | 11 May 01 | Wincanton | R. K. Harrison Insurance Brokers Hunters' Chase Class H |
| 7 Apr 01 | Newbury | Stan James Open 24 Hours Hunters' Chase Class H | PU/25 | Blanville I (FR) | 1 | 23 May 01 | Cheltenham | Faucets Perrin And Rowe Classical Bathroom Fittings Champion Hunters' Chase C… |
| 7 Apr 01 | Newbury | Stan James Open 24 Hours Hunters' Chase Class H | PU/25 | Mr Dow Jones (IRE) | 3 | 16 Apr 01 | Hereford | Oswald & Rowland Symonds Hunters' Chase Class H |
| 14 May 97 | Huntingdon | Health Spa Water Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class E | 3/9 | Karen's Typhoon (IRE) | - | 8 Oct 97 | Towcester | Ron & Beryl Lyon Golden Wedding Anniversary Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class E |
| 30 Jan 97 | Towcester | Castle Ashby Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Class H | 9/18 | Red Brook (GB) | 1 | 16 Nov 97 | Towcester | Commercial Union Luton Maiden Hurdle (Div I) Class F |
- PU/155 May 01 · Exeter
Maristow Shoot Open Hunters' Chase Class H
All fields
- Date
- 5 May 01
- Course
- Exeter
- Race
- Maristow Shoot Open Hunters' Chase Class H
- This horse
- PU/15
- Winner next time
- Badger Beer (GB)
- Their pos
- 10
- Won on
- 11 May 01
- Race won
- R. K. Harrison Insurance Brokers Hunters' Chase Class H
- PU/257 Apr 01 · Newbury
Stan James Open 24 Hours Hunters' Chase Class H
All fields
- Date
- 7 Apr 01
- Course
- Newbury
- Race
- Stan James Open 24 Hours Hunters' Chase Class H
- This horse
- PU/25
- Winner next time
- Blanville I (FR)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 23 May 01
- Race won
- Faucets Perrin And Rowe Classical Bathroom Fittings Champion Hunters' Chase C…
- PU/257 Apr 01 · Newbury
Stan James Open 24 Hours Hunters' Chase Class H
All fields
- Date
- 7 Apr 01
- Course
- Newbury
- Race
- Stan James Open 24 Hours Hunters' Chase Class H
- This horse
- PU/25
- Winner next time
- Mr Dow Jones (IRE)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 16 Apr 01
- At
- Hereford
- Race won
- Oswald & Rowland Symonds Hunters' Chase Class H
- 3/914 May 97 · Huntingdon
Health Spa Water Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class E
All fields
- Date
- 14 May 97
- Course
- Huntingdon
- Race
- Health Spa Water Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class E
- This horse
- 3/9
- Winner next time
- Karen's Typhoon (IRE)
- Their pos
- -
- Won on
- 8 Oct 97
- At
- Towcester
- Race won
- Ron & Beryl Lyon Golden Wedding Anniversary Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class E
- 9/1830 Jan 97 · Towcester
Castle Ashby Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Class H
All fields
- Date
- 30 Jan 97
- Course
- Towcester
- Race
- Castle Ashby Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Class H
- This horse
- 9/18
- Winner next time
- Red Brook (GB)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 16 Nov 97
- At
- Towcester
- Race won
- Commercial Union Luton Maiden Hurdle (Div I) Class F
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | Moved from | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| A J Tizzard | Venetia Williams | 7 Apr 01 | 5 May 01 | PU/25 | - | - | - | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Venetia Williams | J A C Edwards | 30 Jan 97 | 14 May 97 | 9/18 | 78 | 78 | 78 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £3,002 | €0 | ||
| J A C Edwards | - | 22 May 96 | 22 May 96 | 11/16 | - | - | - | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
A J Tizzard
- Trainer
- A J Tizzard
- Moved from
- Venetia Williams
- First run
- 7 Apr 01
- Last run
- 5 May 01
- First run for yard
- PU/25
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Venetia Williams
- Trainer
- Venetia Williams
- Moved from
- J A C Edwards
- First run
- 30 Jan 97
- Last run
- 14 May 97
- First run for yard
- 9/18
- OR first run
- 78
- OR last run
- 78
- Best OR
- 78
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,002
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
J A C Edwards
- Trainer
- J A C Edwards
- First run
- 22 May 96
- Last run
- 22 May 96
- First run for yard
- 11/16
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Spells with each trainer in race order, latest first (a horse that returns to a trainer shows a new spell). From British and Irish runs since 1990.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 6 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £3,002 | €0 | 78 | 22 May 96 | 5 May 01 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,002
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 78
- First run
- 22 May 96
- Last run
- 5 May 01
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £3,002 | €0 | ||
| Chase | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| NH Flat | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Hurdle
- Race type
- Hurdle
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,002
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Chase
- Race type
- Chase
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
NH Flat
- Race type
- NH Flat
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £323 | €0 | ||
| Good | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £2,679 | €0 | ||
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Good to Firm
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £323
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,679
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good to Soft
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Soft
- Going
- Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m to 2m1f | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 2m2f to 2m5f | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £2,679 | €0 | ||
| 2m6f to 3m1f | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £323 | €0 | ||
| 3m2f and over | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
2m to 2m1f
- Distance
- 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
2m2f to 2m5f
- Distance
- 2m2f to 2m5f
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,679
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
2m6f to 3m1f
- Distance
- 2m6f to 3m1f
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £323
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
3m2f and over
- Distance
- 3m2f and over
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Southwell | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £2,679 | €0 | ||
| Exeter | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Huntingdon | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £323 | €0 | ||
| Newbury | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Towcester | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Worcester | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Southwell
- Course
- Southwell
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,679
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Exeter
- Course
- Exeter
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Huntingdon
- Course
- Huntingdon
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £323
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Newbury
- Course
- Newbury
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Towcester
- Course
- Towcester
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Worcester
- Course
- Worcester
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £3,002 | €0 | ||
| Class 6 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Class 4
- Class
- Class 4
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,002
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 6
- Class
- Class 6
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 9 to 12 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £323 | €0 | ||
| 13 to 16 runners | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £2,679 | €0 | ||
| 17+ runners | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £323
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
13 to 16 runners
- Runners
- 13 to 16 runners
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,679
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
17+ runners
- Runners
- 17+ runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| January | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| April | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £2,679 | €0 | ||
| May | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £323 | €0 |
January
- Month
- January
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
April
- Month
- April
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,679
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
May
- Month
- May
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £323
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Norman Williamson | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £3,002 | €0 | ||
| Miss C Tizzard | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Andrew Thornton | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Mark Dwyer | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Norman Williamson
- Jockey
- Norman Williamson
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,002
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Miss C Tizzard
- Jockey
- Miss C Tizzard
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Andrew Thornton
- Jockey
- Andrew Thornton
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Mark Dwyer
- Jockey
- Mark Dwyer
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Venetia Williams | 3 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £3,002 | €0 | ||
| A J Tizzard | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| J A C Edwards | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Venetia Williams
- Trainer
- Venetia Williams
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,002
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
A J Tizzard
- Trainer
- A J Tizzard
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
J A C Edwards
- Trainer
- J A C Edwards
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 6 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £3,002 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,002
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £323 | €0 | ||
| 61 to 120 days | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £2,679 | €0 | ||
| 121 to 365 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Over a year | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £323
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
61 to 120 days
- Days since last run
- 61 to 120 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,679
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
121 to 365 days
- Days since last run
- 121 to 365 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Over a year
- Days since last run
- Over a year
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchOver The River (FR)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchMonalee Stream (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sirePaddy's Stream (GB)
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
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Breeding card
HorseForbidden Waters (IRE)
Sexgelding
Foaled1991
SireOver The River (FR)
DamMonalee Stream (GB)
DamsirePaddy's Stream (GB)
Dam's produce5 winners from 5 runners
Notable siblingMonalee River (IRE)
Female line
- Monalee Stream (GB) · 5 winners from 5 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Over The River (FR) | Monalee Stream (GB) | Paddy's Stream (GB) | gelding | Flat 19.3f · NH 2m6f | Flat 15.3f · NH 2m5f |
Over The River (FR)
- Damsire
- Paddy's Stream (GB)
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 19.3f · NH 2m6f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 15.3f · NH 2m5f
Progeny of Over The River (FR) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 6,391 | 642 | 1,719 | 6 | 1 | ||
| At 2m2f to 2m5f | 2,098 | 193 | 553 | 1 | 1 | ||
| On Good going | 1,922 | 209 | 537 | 3 | 1 | ||
| At 2m2f to 2m5f on Good going | 638 | 59 | 165 | 1 | 1 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 6,391
- Wins
- 642
- Placed
- 1,719
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 6
- This horse wins
- 1
At 2m2f to 2m5f
- Condition
- At 2m2f to 2m5f
- Runs
- 2,098
- Wins
- 193
- Placed
- 553
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 1
On Good going
- Condition
- On Good going
- Runs
- 1,922
- Wins
- 209
- Placed
- 537
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 1
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Good going
- Condition
- At 2m2f to 2m5f on Good going
- Runs
- 638
- Wins
- 59
- Placed
- 165
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 1
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Over The River (FR) × Paddy's Stream mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 19 | 10 | 0 | 226 | 26 | 47 | £71,056 | €43,224 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 19
- Winners
- 10
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 226
- Wins
- 26
- 2nd/3rd
- 47
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £71,056
- Prize IRE (€)
- €43,224
All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Over The Stream (GB) | 32 | 6 | 0 | £29,696 | €0 |
| Platonic-My-Eye (IRE) | 21 | 5 | 0 | £17,973 | €0 |
| Monalee River (IRE) | 27 | 5 | 0 | £4,258 | €0 |
| Redlyn (GB) | 28 | 3 | 0 | £0 | €31,517 |
| Overheard (GB) | 3 | 2 | 0 | £3,414 | €0 |
| Over The Country (GB) | 4 | 1 | 0 | - | - |
| Forbidden Waters (IRE) | 6 | 1 | 0 | £3,002 | €0 |
| River Slave (IRE) | 14 | 1 | 0 | £5,329 | €0 |
| Killowen Point (IRE) | 19 | 1 | 0 | £0 | €8,837 |
| River Red (GB) | 24 | 1 | 0 | £6,629 | €0 |
| Over The Plough (IRE) | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
| Barhale River (IRE) | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Over The Stream (GB)
- Horse
- Over The Stream (GB)
- Runs
- 32
- Wins
- 6
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £29,696
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Platonic-My-Eye (IRE)
- Runs
- 21
- Wins
- 5
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £17,973
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Monalee River (IRE)
- Horse
- Monalee River (IRE)
- Runs
- 27
- Wins
- 5
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,258
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Redlyn (GB)
- Horse
- Redlyn (GB)
- Runs
- 28
- Wins
- 3
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €31,517
Overheard (GB)
- Horse
- Overheard (GB)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,414
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Over The Country (GB)
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
Forbidden Waters (IRE)
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,002
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
River Slave (IRE)
- Horse
- River Slave (IRE)
- Runs
- 14
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,329
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Killowen Point (IRE)
- Horse
- Killowen Point (IRE)
- Runs
- 19
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €8,837
River Red (GB)
- Horse
- River Red (GB)
- Runs
- 24
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £6,629
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Over The Plough (IRE)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Barhale River (IRE)
- Horse
- Barhale River (IRE)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 78 | 78 | 78 | 1 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 78
- Highest OR
- 78
- Lowest OR
- 78
- Rated runs
- 1
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
| Date | Course | Code | OR | Pos |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 14 May 97 | Huntingdon | NH | 78 | 3/9 |
- 3/914 May 97 · Huntingdon
All fields
- Date
- 14 May 97
- Course
- Huntingdon
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 78
- Pos
- 3/9
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 78 | 78 | 0 | 78 | 0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 78
- OR last run
- 78
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 78
- v highest
- 0
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 5 winners from 5 runners
Full siblings
- Monalee River (IRE)5W · 27R
- Killowen Point (IRE)1W · 19R
Half siblings
By Lord Americo (IRE)
- Lisard River (IRE)2W · 28R
By Be My Native (USA)
- Snowy Ford (IRE)7W · 42R
Female line
- 1Monalee Stream (GB)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Forbidden Waters foaled?
Forbidden Waters (IRE) was foaled in 1991.
Who are the sire and dam of Forbidden Waters?
Forbidden Waters (IRE) is by Over The River (FR) out of Monalee Stream (GB), a daughter of Paddy's Stream (GB).
Who trained Forbidden Waters?
Forbidden Waters (IRE) was trained by A J Tizzard and owned by A J Tizzard at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland, having also run for 2 other trainers.
What is Forbidden Waters' race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Forbidden Waters (IRE) won 1 of 6 races (17%).
What is Forbidden Waters' biggest win?
Forbidden Waters (IRE)'s only win in Britain or Ireland came in the Black And Tan 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class E at Southwell on 14 April 1997.
Has Forbidden Waters ever been beaten?
Forbidden Waters (IRE) was beaten 5 times in 6 runs in Britain and Ireland, the first time on 22 May 1996 at Worcester (11th of 16).
What was Forbidden Waters' official rating?
Forbidden Waters (IRE) was last officially rated 78 over jumps (also the career high).
Is Forbidden Waters still racing?
Forbidden Waters (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 5 May 2001 at Exeter in the Maristow Shoot Open Hunters' Chase Class H (result: pulled up, 15 ran), and has not run there since.
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