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Horse profile
Debating Society
- TrainerSir Michael Stoute
- OwnerBallymacoll Stud
- FamilySun Princess
- Sex
- colt
- Foaled
- 2009
- Highest OR
- 86
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 2 wins from 9 runs (22%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £11,060 GB
- Last official rating
- 86 (Flat)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 4 Oct 2012, Warwick (13/17)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- 5 Sep 2012, Lingfield
Recent form
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Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4 Oct 12 | Warwick | 13/17 | 5/2F | 14½ | Kieren Fallon | Sir Michael Stoute | Betfair 10 Furlong Flat Series Final (Handicap) | Class 3 | Flat Turf | 1m3f | Soft | 9-7 | 86 | Consider Yourself (USA) | £15,563 | 29 | 1/15 |
| 5 Sep 12 | Lingfield | 1/8 | 11/4F | won ¾ | Kieren Fallon | Sir Michael Stoute | Follow Us On Twitter @LingfieldPark Handicap | Class 4 | Flat Turf | 1m2f | Good to Firm | 9-2 | 80 | Al Baidaa (GB) | £4,075 | 8 | 0/6 |
| 28 Aug 12 | Epsom | 1/10 | 3/1F | won 1 | Neil Callan | Sir Michael Stoute | Racing Post Weekender Out Every Wednesday Handicap | Class 5 | Flat Turf | 1m2f | Good | 9-5 | 74 | Looking On (GB) | £3,881 | 41 | 2/9 |
| 18 Jul 12 | Sandown | 6/7 | 2/1F | 7½ | Ryan Moore | Sir Michael Stoute | Devine Homes PLC Handicap | Class 4 | Flat Turf | 1m2f | Soft | 9-7 | 77 | Sheila's Buddy (GB) | £4,075 | 15 | 2/5 |
| 3 Jul 12 | Kempton (AW) | 3/9 | 7/1 | ¾ | Pat Dobbs | Sir Michael Stoute | Betfair Handicap | Class 4 | Flat AW | 1m3f | Standard | 9-3 | 75 | Ruscello (IRE) | £4,528 | 57 | 0/8 |
| 7 May 12 | Windsor | 4/6 | 5/1 | 2½ | Ryan Moore | Sir Michael Stoute | Skybet Mobile For iPhone & Android Handicap | Class 3 | Flat Turf | 1m | Soft | 8-13 | 76 | Takeitfromalady (IRE) | £6,792 | 28 | 1/5 |
| 9 Apr 12 | Yarmouth | 2/13 | 6/1 | 7 | Ryan Moore | Sir Michael Stoute | Burlington Palm Hotel Maiden Stakes | Class 5 | Flat Turf | 1m | Good | 8-13 | - | Falcon In Flight (GB) | £2,264 | 208 | 0/11 |
| 14 Sep 11 | Yarmouth | 2/9 | 11/2 | 3¾ | Richard Mullen | Sir Michael Stoute | British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing E B F Maiden Stakes | Class 5 | Flat Turf | 7f | Good | 9-3 | - | Electrician (GB) | £3,235 | 26 | 1/8 |
| 19 Aug 11 | Sandown | 4/10 | 12/1 | 5¾ | Richard Mullen | Sir Michael Stoute | British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing E B F Maiden Stakes | Class 5 | Flat Turf | 7f | Good to Soft | 9-3 | - | Newnton Lodge (GB) | £3,881 | - | 1/9 |
Betfair 10 Furlong Flat Series Final (Handicap)
Class 31m3fSoft
All fields
- Date
- 4 Oct 12
- Course
- Warwick
- Pos
- 13/17
- SP
- 5/2F
- Btn
- 14½
- Jockey
- Kieren Fallon
- Trainer
- Sir Michael Stoute
- Race
- Betfair 10 Furlong Flat Series Final (Handicap)
- Class
- Class 3
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m3f
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 9-7
- OR
- 86
- Winner / 2nd
- Consider Yourself (USA)
- Winner prize
- £15,563
- Days
- 29
- Future form
- 1/15
Follow Us On Twitter @LingfieldPark Handicap
Class 41m2fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 5 Sep 12
- Course
- Lingfield
- Pos
- 1/8
- SP
- 11/4F
- Btn
- won ¾
- Jockey
- Kieren Fallon
- Trainer
- Sir Michael Stoute
- Race
- Follow Us On Twitter @LingfieldPark Handicap
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m2f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 9-2
- OR
- 80
- Winner / 2nd
- Al Baidaa (GB)
- Winner prize
- £4,075
- Days
- 8
- Future form
- 0/6
Racing Post Weekender Out Every Wednesday Handicap
Class 51m2fGood
All fields
- Date
- 28 Aug 12
- Course
- Epsom
- Pos
- 1/10
- SP
- 3/1F
- Btn
- won 1
- Jockey
- Neil Callan
- Trainer
- Sir Michael Stoute
- Race
- Racing Post Weekender Out Every Wednesday Handicap
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m2f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 9-5
- OR
- 74
- Winner / 2nd
- Looking On (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,881
- Days
- 41
- Future form
- 2/9
Devine Homes PLC Handicap
Class 41m2fSoft
All fields
- Date
- 18 Jul 12
- Course
- Sandown
- Pos
- 6/7
- SP
- 2/1F
- Btn
- 7½
- Jockey
- Ryan Moore
- Trainer
- Sir Michael Stoute
- Race
- Devine Homes PLC Handicap
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m2f
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 9-7
- OR
- 77
- Winner / 2nd
- Sheila's Buddy (GB)
- Winner prize
- £4,075
- Days
- 15
- Future form
- 2/5
- 3/93 Jul 12 · Kempton (AW)7/1
Betfair Handicap
Class 41m3fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 3 Jul 12
- Course
- Kempton (AW)
- Pos
- 3/9
- SP
- 7/1
- Btn
- ¾
- Jockey
- Pat Dobbs
- Trainer
- Sir Michael Stoute
- Race
- Betfair Handicap
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 1m3f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-3
- OR
- 75
- Winner / 2nd
- Ruscello (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £4,528
- Days
- 57
- Future form
- 0/8
Skybet Mobile For iPhone & Android Handicap
Class 31mSoft
All fields
- Date
- 7 May 12
- Course
- Windsor
- Pos
- 4/6
- SP
- 5/1
- Btn
- 2½
- Jockey
- Ryan Moore
- Trainer
- Sir Michael Stoute
- Race
- Skybet Mobile For iPhone & Android Handicap
- Class
- Class 3
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 8-13
- OR
- 76
- Winner / 2nd
- Takeitfromalady (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £6,792
- Days
- 28
- Future form
- 1/5
Burlington Palm Hotel Maiden Stakes
Class 51mGood
All fields
- Date
- 9 Apr 12
- Course
- Yarmouth
- Pos
- 2/13
- SP
- 6/1
- Btn
- 7
- Jockey
- Ryan Moore
- Trainer
- Sir Michael Stoute
- Race
- Burlington Palm Hotel Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 8-13
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Falcon In Flight (GB)
- Winner prize
- £2,264
- Days
- 208
- Future form
- 0/11
British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing E B F Maiden Stakes
Class 57fGood
All fields
- Date
- 14 Sep 11
- Course
- Yarmouth
- Pos
- 2/9
- SP
- 11/2
- Btn
- 3¾
- Jockey
- Richard Mullen
- Trainer
- Sir Michael Stoute
- Race
- British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing E B F Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 7f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 9-3
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Electrician (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,235
- Days
- 26
- Future form
- 1/8
British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing E B F Maiden Stakes
Class 57fGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 19 Aug 11
- Course
- Sandown
- Pos
- 4/10
- SP
- 12/1
- Btn
- 5¾
- Jockey
- Richard Mullen
- Trainer
- Sir Michael Stoute
- Race
- British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing E B F Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 7f
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 9-3
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Newnton Lodge (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,881
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 1/9
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4 Oct 12 | Warwick | Betfair 10 Furlong Flat Series Final (Handicap) | 13/17 | High Resolution (GB) | 11 | 11 Oct 12 | Ayr | Beazley Marine Insurance Handicap |
| 28 Aug 12 | Epsom | Racing Post Weekender Out Every Wednesday Handicap | 1/10 | Looking On (GB) | 2 | 14 Sep 12 | Sandown | Inkerman London Handicap |
| 28 Aug 12 | Epsom | Racing Post Weekender Out Every Wednesday Handicap | 1/10 | Miss Cap Estel (GB) | 3 | 15 Sep 12 | Chester | M&S Bank Handicap |
| 18 Jul 12 | Sandown | Devine Homes PLC Handicap | 6/7 | Ace Of Valhalla (GB) | 2 | 6 Aug 12 | Ripon | toteexacta Maiden Stakes |
| 18 Jul 12 | Sandown | Devine Homes PLC Handicap | 6/7 | Little Dutch Girl (GB) | 5 | 13 Aug 12 | Ffos Las | 32Red Handicap |
| 7 May 12 | Windsor | Skybet Mobile For iPhone & Android Handicap | 4/6 | Moment In Time (IRE) | 6 | 12 Jun 12 | Brighton | Seabay Corporation Handicap |
| 14 Sep 11 | Yarmouth | British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing E B F Maiden Stakes | 2/9 | Cockney Rocker (GB) | 5 | 7 Dec 11 | Kempton (AW) | racing@skysports.com Nursery |
| 19 Aug 11 | Sandown | British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing E B F Maiden Stakes | 4/10 | Kid Suitor (IRE) | 2 | 29 Aug 11 | Chepstow | British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing E B F Maiden Stakes |
- 13/174 Oct 12 · Warwick
Betfair 10 Furlong Flat Series Final (Handicap)
All fields
- Date
- 4 Oct 12
- Course
- Warwick
- Race
- Betfair 10 Furlong Flat Series Final (Handicap)
- This horse
- 13/17
- Winner next time
- High Resolution (GB)
- Their pos
- 11
- Won on
- 11 Oct 12
- At
- Ayr
- Race won
- Beazley Marine Insurance Handicap
- 1/1028 Aug 12 · Epsom
Racing Post Weekender Out Every Wednesday Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 28 Aug 12
- Course
- Epsom
- Race
- Racing Post Weekender Out Every Wednesday Handicap
- This horse
- 1/10
- Winner next time
- Looking On (GB)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 14 Sep 12
- At
- Sandown
- Race won
- Inkerman London Handicap
- 1/1028 Aug 12 · Epsom
Racing Post Weekender Out Every Wednesday Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 28 Aug 12
- Course
- Epsom
- Race
- Racing Post Weekender Out Every Wednesday Handicap
- This horse
- 1/10
- Winner next time
- Miss Cap Estel (GB)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 15 Sep 12
- At
- Chester
- Race won
- M&S Bank Handicap
- 6/718 Jul 12 · Sandown
Devine Homes PLC Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 18 Jul 12
- Course
- Sandown
- Race
- Devine Homes PLC Handicap
- This horse
- 6/7
- Winner next time
- Ace Of Valhalla (GB)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 6 Aug 12
- At
- Ripon
- Race won
- toteexacta Maiden Stakes
- 6/718 Jul 12 · Sandown
Devine Homes PLC Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 18 Jul 12
- Course
- Sandown
- Race
- Devine Homes PLC Handicap
- This horse
- 6/7
- Winner next time
- Little Dutch Girl (GB)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 13 Aug 12
- At
- Ffos Las
- Race won
- 32Red Handicap
- 4/67 May 12 · Windsor
Skybet Mobile For iPhone & Android Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 7 May 12
- Course
- Windsor
- Race
- Skybet Mobile For iPhone & Android Handicap
- This horse
- 4/6
- Winner next time
- Moment In Time (IRE)
- Their pos
- 6
- Won on
- 12 Jun 12
- At
- Brighton
- Race won
- Seabay Corporation Handicap
- 2/914 Sep 11 · Yarmouth
British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing E B F Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 14 Sep 11
- Course
- Yarmouth
- Race
- British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing E B F Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 2/9
- Winner next time
- Cockney Rocker (GB)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 7 Dec 11
- At
- Kempton (AW)
- Race won
- racing@skysports.com Nursery
- 4/1019 Aug 11 · Sandown
British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing E B F Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 19 Aug 11
- Course
- Sandown
- Race
- British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing E B F Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 4/10
- Winner next time
- Kid Suitor (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 29 Aug 11
- At
- Chepstow
- Race won
- British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing E B F Maiden Stakes
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sir Michael Stoute | 19 Aug 11 | 4 Oct 12 | 4/10 | 76 | 86 | 86 | 9 | 2 | 2 | 1 | £11,060 | €0 |
Sir Michael Stoute
- Trainer
- Sir Michael Stoute
- First run
- 19 Aug 11
- Last run
- 4 Oct 12
- First run for yard
- 4/10
- OR first run
- 76
- OR last run
- 86
- Best OR
- 86
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £11,060
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 9 | 2 | 2 | 1 | £11,060 | €0 | 86 | 19 Aug 11 | 4 Oct 12 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £11,060
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 86
- First run
- 19 Aug 11
- Last run
- 4 Oct 12
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat Turf | 8 | 2 | 2 | 0 | £10,387 | €0 | ||
| Flat AW | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £673 | €0 |
Flat Turf
- Race type
- Flat Turf
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £10,387
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat AW
- Race type
- Flat AW
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £673
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £4,075 | €0 | ||
| Good | 3 | 1 | 2 | 0 | £5,518 | €0 | ||
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £289 | €0 | ||
| Soft | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £505 | €0 | ||
| Standard | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £673 | €0 |
Good to Firm
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,075
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,518
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good to Soft
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £289
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Soft
- Going
- Soft
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £505
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Standard
- Going
- Standard
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £673
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 7f to 1m | 4 | 0 | 2 | 0 | £2,430 | €0 | ||
| 9f to 11f | 5 | 2 | 0 | 1 | £8,630 | €0 |
7f to 1m
- Distance
- 7f to 1m
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,430
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
9f to 11f
- Distance
- 9f to 11f
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £8,630
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sandown | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £289 | €0 | ||
| Yarmouth | 2 | 0 | 2 | 0 | £1,636 | €0 | ||
| Epsom | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £3,881 | €0 | ||
| Lingfield | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £4,075 | €0 | ||
| Kempton (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £673 | €0 | ||
| Warwick | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Windsor | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £505 | €0 |
Sandown
- Course
- Sandown
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £289
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Yarmouth
- Course
- Yarmouth
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,636
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Epsom
- Course
- Epsom
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,881
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Lingfield
- Course
- Lingfield
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,075
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Kempton (AW)
- Course
- Kempton (AW)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £673
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Warwick
- Course
- Warwick
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Windsor
- Course
- Windsor
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £505
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 3 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £505 | €0 | ||
| Class 4 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £4,749 | €0 | ||
| Class 5 | 4 | 1 | 2 | 0 | £5,806 | €0 |
Class 3
- Class
- Class 3
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £505
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 4
- Class
- Class 4
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,749
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 5
- Class
- Class 5
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,806
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6 to 8 runners | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £4,581 | €0 | ||
| 9 to 12 runners | 4 | 1 | 1 | 1 | £5,806 | €0 | ||
| 13 to 16 runners | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £674 | €0 | ||
| 17+ runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
6 to 8 runners
- Runners
- 6 to 8 runners
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,581
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,806
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
13 to 16 runners
- Runners
- 13 to 16 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £674
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
17+ runners
- Runners
- 17+ runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| April | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £674 | €0 | ||
| May | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £505 | €0 | ||
| July | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £673 | €0 | ||
| August | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £4,170 | €0 | ||
| September | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | £5,038 | €0 | ||
| October | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
April
- Month
- April
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £674
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
May
- Month
- May
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £505
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
July
- Month
- July
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £673
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
August
- Month
- August
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,170
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
September
- Month
- September
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,038
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
October
- Month
- October
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ryan Moore | 3 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,179 | €0 | ||
| Kieren Fallon | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £4,075 | €0 | ||
| Richard Mullen | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,251 | €0 | ||
| Neil Callan | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £3,881 | €0 | ||
| Pat Dobbs | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £673 | €0 |
Ryan Moore
- Jockey
- Ryan Moore
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,179
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Kieren Fallon
- Jockey
- Kieren Fallon
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,075
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Richard Mullen
- Jockey
- Richard Mullen
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,251
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Neil Callan
- Jockey
- Neil Callan
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,881
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pat Dobbs
- Jockey
- Pat Dobbs
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £673
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sir Michael Stoute | 9 | 2 | 2 | 1 | £11,060 | €0 |
Sir Michael Stoute
- Trainer
- Sir Michael Stoute
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £11,060
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 9 | 2 | 2 | 1 | £11,060 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £11,060
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £289 | €0 | ||
| 8 to 14 days | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £4,075 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 4 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,468 | €0 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £4,555 | €0 | ||
| 121 to 365 days | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £674 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £289
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
8 to 14 days
- Days since last run
- 8 to 14 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,075
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,468
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,555
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
121 to 365 days
- Days since last run
- 121 to 365 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £674
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchInvincible Spirit (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireGreen Desert (USA)
- Sire's damRafha GB
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchDrama Class (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireCaerleon (USA)
- Dam's damStage Struck (IRE)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireSadler's Wells (USA)
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Stage Struck (IRE)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Sadler's Wells (USA)
Not traced
Breeding card
HorseDebating Society (IRE)
Sexcolt
Foaled2009
SireInvincible Spirit (IRE)
DamDrama Class (IRE)
DamsireCaerleon (USA)
Sire's sireGreen Desert (USA)
Sire's damRafha GB
2nd damStage Struck (IRE)
2nd dam's sireSadler's Wells (USA)
Dam's own recordBlack-type placed
Dam's produce6 winners from 12 runners
Notable siblingEleanora Duse (IRE)
Female line
- Drama Class (IRE) · by Caerleon (USA) · 6 winners from 12 runners · Black-type placed
- Stage Struck (IRE) · by Sadler's Wells (USA) · 6 winners from 10 runners
- Sun Princess (GB) · 7 winners from 9 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Invincible Spirit (IRE) | Drama Class (IRE) | Caerleon (USA) | colt | Flat 7.1f · NH 2m2f | Flat 8.8f · NH 2m2f |
Invincible Spirit (IRE)
- Damsire
- Caerleon (USA)
- Sex
- colt
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 7.1f · NH 2m2f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 8.8f · NH 2m2f
Progeny of Invincible Spirit (IRE) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 18,449 | 2,194 | 5,749 | 9 | 2 | ||
| At 9f to 11f | 2,169 | 252 | 678 | 5 | 2 | ||
| On Good going | 4,084 | 410 | 1,176 | 3 | 1 | ||
| At 9f to 11f on Good going | 505 | 40 | 139 | 1 | 1 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 18,449
- Wins
- 2,194
- Placed
- 5,749
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 9
- This horse wins
- 2
At 9f to 11f
- Condition
- At 9f to 11f
- Runs
- 2,169
- Wins
- 252
- Placed
- 678
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 5
- This horse wins
- 2
On Good going
- Condition
- On Good going
- Runs
- 4,084
- Wins
- 410
- Placed
- 1,176
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 1
At 9f to 11f on Good going
- Condition
- At 9f to 11f on Good going
- Runs
- 505
- Wins
- 40
- Placed
- 139
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 1
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Invincible Spirit (IRE) × Caerleon mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 5 | 4 | 0 | 76 | 12 | 28 | £57,371 | €53,553 | ||
| National Hunt | 1 | 1 | 0 | 14 | 2 | 3 | £9,461 | €0 | ||
| All runs | 5 | 4 | 0 | 90 | 14 | 31 | £66,832 | €53,553 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 5
- Winners
- 4
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 76
- Wins
- 12
- 2nd/3rd
- 28
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £57,371
- Prize IRE (€)
- €53,553
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 1
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 14
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd/3rd
- 3
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £9,461
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
All runs
- Code
- All runs
- Runners
- 5
- Winners
- 4
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 90
- Wins
- 14
- 2nd/3rd
- 31
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £66,832
- Prize IRE (€)
- €53,553
All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Benedict Spirit (IRE) | 49 | 7 | 0 | £39,536 | €0 |
| Dahindar (IRE) | 21 | 4 | 0 | £0 | €53,553 |
| Debating Society (IRE) | 9 | 2 | 0 | £11,060 | €0 |
| Visible Charm (IRE) | 6 | 1 | 0 | £13,772 | €0 |
| Sterling Work (IRE) | 5 | 0 | 0 | £2,464 | €0 |
Benedict Spirit (IRE)
- Runs
- 49
- Wins
- 7
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £39,536
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Dahindar (IRE)
- Horse
- Dahindar (IRE)
- Runs
- 21
- Wins
- 4
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €53,553
Debating Society (IRE)
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £11,060
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Visible Charm (IRE)
- Horse
- Visible Charm (IRE)
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £13,772
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Sterling Work (IRE)
- Horse
- Sterling Work (IRE)
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,464
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Last winning OR | Last win | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 86 | 86 | 74 | 80 | 5 Sep 12 | 6 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 86
- Highest OR
- 86
- Lowest OR
- 74
- Last winning OR
- 80
- Last win
- 5 Sep 12
- Rated runs
- 6
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
| Date | Course | Code | OR | Change | Pos |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4 Oct 12 | Warwick | Flat | 86 | 6 | 13/17 |
| 5 Sep 12 | Lingfield | Flat | 80 | 6 | 1/8 |
| 28 Aug 12 | Epsom | Flat | 74 | -3 | 1/10 |
| 18 Jul 12 | Sandown | Flat | 77 | 2 | 6/7 |
| 3 Jul 12 | Kempton (AW) | Flat | 75 | -1 | 3/9 |
| 7 May 12 | Windsor | Flat | 76 | - | 4/6 |
- 13/174 Oct 12 · Warwick
All fields
- Date
- 4 Oct 12
- Course
- Warwick
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 86
- Change
- 6
- Pos
- 13/17
- 1/85 Sep 12 · Lingfield
All fields
- Date
- 5 Sep 12
- Course
- Lingfield
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 80
- Change
- 6
- Pos
- 1/8
- 1/1028 Aug 12 · Epsom
All fields
- Date
- 28 Aug 12
- Course
- Epsom
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 74
- Change
- -3
- Pos
- 1/10
- 6/718 Jul 12 · Sandown
All fields
- Date
- 18 Jul 12
- Course
- Sandown
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 77
- Change
- 2
- Pos
- 6/7
- 3/93 Jul 12 · Kempton (AW)
All fields
- Date
- 3 Jul 12
- Course
- Kempton (AW)
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 75
- Change
- -1
- Pos
- 3/9
- 4/67 May 12 · Windsor
All fields
- Date
- 7 May 12
- Course
- Windsor
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 76
- Change
- -
- Pos
- 4/6
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Last winning OR | Last win | v last winning | Highest winning OR | v highest winning | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 86 | 86 | 0 | 80 | 5 Sep 12 | 6 | 80 | 6 | 86 | 0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 86
- OR last run
- 86
- Change
- 0
- Last winning OR
- 80
- Last win
- 5 Sep 12
- v last winning
- 6
- Highest winning OR
- 80
- v highest winning
- 6
- Highest OR
- 86
- v highest
- 0
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- Record
- Black-type placed
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 6 winners from 12 runners
Full siblings
- Sterling Work (IRE)0W · 5R
Half siblings
By Selkirk (USA)
- Highland Diva (IRE)0W · 2R
- Scottish Stage (IRE)2W · 7R · 1 black-type
By Alhaarth (IRE)
- Voice Coach (IRE)1W · 5R
By Cape Cross (IRE)
- Namibian Orator (IRE)1W · 4R
By Azamour (IRE)
- Eleanora Duse (IRE)3W · 13R · 2 black-type
- Counterweight (IRE)0W · 3R
By Dalakhani (IRE)
- Centred (IRE)2W · 8R
By Sea The Stars (IRE)
- Juvenile Lead (IRE)0W · 1R
By Archipenko (USA)
- Narrative (IRE)0W · 1R
By Acclamation (GB)
- Built For This (IRE)0W · 7R
Female line
- 1Drama Class (IRE) · by Caerleon (USA)
- 2Stage Struck (IRE) · by Sadler's Wells (USA)
- 3Sun Princess (GB)
Notable relatives
Half-sister
- Eleanora Duse (IRE)3W · 13R · 2 black-type
- Scottish Stage (IRE)2W · 7R · 1 black-type
Uncle (out of 2nd dam)
- Stage Gift (IRE)5W · 11R · 2 black-type
Great-uncle (out of 3rd dam)
- Princely Venture (IRE)3W · 5R · 1 black-type
In brief
When was Debating Society foaled?
Debating Society (IRE) was foaled in 2009.
Who are the sire and dam of Debating Society?
Debating Society (IRE) is by Invincible Spirit (IRE) out of Drama Class (IRE), a daughter of Caerleon (USA).
Who trained Debating Society?
Debating Society (IRE) was trained by Sir Michael Stoute and owned by Ballymacoll Stud at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Debating Society's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Debating Society (IRE) won 2 of 9 races (22%).
What is Debating Society's biggest win?
Debating Society (IRE)'s biggest win in Britain or Ireland came in the Follow Us On Twitter @LingfieldPark Handicap at Lingfield on 5 September 2012.
Has Debating Society ever been beaten?
Debating Society (IRE) was beaten 7 times in 9 runs in Britain and Ireland, the first time on 19 August 2011 at Sandown (4th of 10).
What was Debating Society's official rating?
Debating Society (IRE) was last officially rated 86 on the Flat (also the career high).
Is Debating Society still racing?
Debating Society (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 4 October 2012 at Warwick in the Betfair 10 Furlong Flat Series Final (Handicap), finishing 13th of 17, and has not run there since.
Is Debating Society related to any top horses?
Debating Society (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Eleanora Duse (IRE) (half-sister, Group 2 winner), Scottish Stage (IRE) (half-sister, Listed winner) and Stage Gift (IRE) (uncle, Group 2 winner), from the Sun Princess (GB) family.
What is Debating Society's record at Sandown?
Debating Society (IRE) ran most often at Sandown, with no wins from 2 runs there.
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