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Horse profile
Why Lie
- TrainerAlan Phillips
- OwnerMiss Rowena Edwards
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 2011
- Colour
- bay
- Highest OR
- 104
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 10 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £1,904 GB
- Last official rating
- 95 (Jumps)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 30 Aug 2019, Bangor-on-Dee (5/12)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Recent form
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Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 30 Aug 19 | Bangor-on-Dee | 5/12 | 6/1 | 13½ | Charlie Todd | Alan Phillips | Utilities Connections Management Ltd Handicap Hurdle | Class 5 | Hurdle | 2m3½f | Good | 11-0 | 95 | Sackfullofdreams (IRE) | £3,314 | 16 | 1/8 |
| 14 Aug 19 | Worcester | 4/18 | 16/1 | 6¾ | Charlie Todd | Alan Phillips | HM Equine Insurance Handicap Hurdle | Class 5 | Hurdle | 2m | Good | 11-2 | 95 | Dariya (USA) | £2,794 | 22 | 1/17 |
| 23 Jul 19 | Southwell | 3/10 | 25/1 | 14¾ | Charlie Todd | Alan Phillips | Peter Hayward Memorial Novices' Selling Hurdle | Class 4 | Hurdle | 1m7½f | Good | 10-5 | 88 | Skeaping (GB) | £3,769 | 119 | 0/6 |
| 26 Mar 19 | Hereford | 11/17 | 66/1 | dist | Theo Gillard | Alan Phillips | Happy Retirement Noel Fehily Handicap Hurdle | Class 5 | Hurdle | 2m3½f | Good | 10-11 | 92 | Bazarov (IRE) | £3,119 | 34 | 3/14 |
| 20 Feb 19 | Ludlow | F/7 | 25/1 | - | Lewis Stones | Alan Phillips | Jenkinsons Caterers Novices' Handicap Chase | Class 4 | Chase | 2m | Good | 11-0 | 95 | Quantum Of Solace (GB) | £5,588 | 23 | 0/5 |
| 28 Jan 19 | Kempton | PU/9 | 22/1 | - | Stan Sheppard | Alan Phillips | Matchbook Best Value Exchange Handicap Hurdle (Div II) | Class 5 | Hurdle | 2m5f | Good to Soft | 11-9 | 100 | King Cool (GB) | £3,249 | 43 | 3/8 |
| 16 Dec 18 | Southwell | PU/11 | 66/1 | - | Stan Sheppard | Alan Phillips | toals.com Casino Maiden Hurdle | Class 5 | Hurdle | 1m7½f | Soft | 10-9 | 104 | Umbrigado (IRE) | £3,119 | 172 | 3/10 |
| 27 Jun 18 | Worcester | 7/11 | 50/1 | dist | Stan Sheppard | Alan Phillips | Worcester Racecourse 300th Anniversary Maiden Hurdle | Class 4 | Hurdle | 2m4f | Good | 10-9 | - | Black Kalanisi (IRE) | £4,094 | 25 | 0/7 |
| 2 Jun 18 | Worcester | 4/10 | 50/1 | 20¾ | Stan Sheppard | Alan Phillips | 7bets4free.com Fixed Brush Hurdle Series Maiden Hurdle | Class 4 | Hurdle | 2m4f | Good | 10-11 | - | Vivant (GB) | £4,094 | 23 | 1/7 |
| 10 May 18 | Worcester | 5/9 | 66/1 | 27½ | Stan Sheppard | Alan Phillips | Racegoers Club 50th Anniversary Selling Hurdle | Class 5 | Hurdle | 2m4f | Good | 10-11 | - | Rock Of Leon (GB) | £3,119 | - | 0/7 |
Utilities Connections Management Ltd Handicap Hurdle
Class 52m3½fGood
All fields
- Date
- 30 Aug 19
- Course
- Bangor-on-Dee
- Pos
- 5/12
- SP
- 6/1
- Btn
- 13½
- Jockey
- Charlie Todd
- Trainer
- Alan Phillips
- Race
- Utilities Connections Management Ltd Handicap Hurdle
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m3½f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 11-0
- OR
- 95
- Winner / 2nd
- Sackfullofdreams (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,314
- Days
- 16
- Future form
- 1/8
HM Equine Insurance Handicap Hurdle
Class 52mGood
All fields
- Date
- 14 Aug 19
- Course
- Worcester
- Pos
- 4/18
- SP
- 16/1
- Btn
- 6¾
- Jockey
- Charlie Todd
- Trainer
- Alan Phillips
- Race
- HM Equine Insurance Handicap Hurdle
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 11-2
- OR
- 95
- Winner / 2nd
- Dariya (USA)
- Winner prize
- £2,794
- Days
- 22
- Future form
- 1/17
Peter Hayward Memorial Novices' Selling Hurdle
Class 41m7½fGood
All fields
- Date
- 23 Jul 19
- Course
- Southwell
- Pos
- 3/10
- SP
- 25/1
- Btn
- 14¾
- Jockey
- Charlie Todd
- Trainer
- Alan Phillips
- Race
- Peter Hayward Memorial Novices' Selling Hurdle
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 1m7½f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 10-5
- OR
- 88
- Winner / 2nd
- Skeaping (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,769
- Days
- 119
- Future form
- 0/6
Happy Retirement Noel Fehily Handicap Hurdle
Class 52m3½fGood
All fields
- Date
- 26 Mar 19
- Course
- Hereford
- Pos
- 11/17
- SP
- 66/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Theo Gillard
- Trainer
- Alan Phillips
- Race
- Happy Retirement Noel Fehily Handicap Hurdle
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m3½f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 10-11
- OR
- 92
- Winner / 2nd
- Bazarov (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,119
- Days
- 34
- Future form
- 3/14
Jenkinsons Caterers Novices' Handicap Chase
Class 42mGood
All fields
- Date
- 20 Feb 19
- Course
- Ludlow
- Pos
- F/7
- SP
- 25/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Lewis Stones
- Trainer
- Alan Phillips
- Race
- Jenkinsons Caterers Novices' Handicap Chase
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Chase
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 11-0
- OR
- 95
- Winner / 2nd
- Quantum Of Solace (GB)
- Winner prize
- £5,588
- Days
- 23
- Future form
- 0/5
Matchbook Best Value Exchange Handicap Hurdle (Div II)
Class 52m5fGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 28 Jan 19
- Course
- Kempton
- Pos
- PU/9
- SP
- 22/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Stan Sheppard
- Trainer
- Alan Phillips
- Race
- Matchbook Best Value Exchange Handicap Hurdle (Div II)
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m5f
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 11-9
- OR
- 100
- Winner / 2nd
- King Cool (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,249
- Days
- 43
- Future form
- 3/8
toals.com Casino Maiden Hurdle
Class 51m7½fSoft
All fields
- Date
- 16 Dec 18
- Course
- Southwell
- Pos
- PU/11
- SP
- 66/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Stan Sheppard
- Trainer
- Alan Phillips
- Race
- toals.com Casino Maiden Hurdle
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 1m7½f
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 10-9
- OR
- 104
- Winner / 2nd
- Umbrigado (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,119
- Days
- 172
- Future form
- 3/10
Worcester Racecourse 300th Anniversary Maiden Hurdle
Class 42m4fGood
All fields
- Date
- 27 Jun 18
- Course
- Worcester
- Pos
- 7/11
- SP
- 50/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Stan Sheppard
- Trainer
- Alan Phillips
- Race
- Worcester Racecourse 300th Anniversary Maiden Hurdle
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m4f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 10-9
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Black Kalanisi (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £4,094
- Days
- 25
- Future form
- 0/7
7bets4free.com Fixed Brush Hurdle Series Maiden Hurdle
Class 42m4fGood
All fields
- Date
- 2 Jun 18
- Course
- Worcester
- Pos
- 4/10
- SP
- 50/1
- Btn
- 20¾
- Jockey
- Stan Sheppard
- Trainer
- Alan Phillips
- Race
- 7bets4free.com Fixed Brush Hurdle Series Maiden Hurdle
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m4f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 10-11
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Vivant (GB)
- Winner prize
- £4,094
- Days
- 23
- Future form
- 1/7
Racegoers Club 50th Anniversary Selling Hurdle
Class 52m4fGood
All fields
- Date
- 10 May 18
- Course
- Worcester
- Pos
- 5/9
- SP
- 66/1
- Btn
- 27½
- Jockey
- Stan Sheppard
- Trainer
- Alan Phillips
- Race
- Racegoers Club 50th Anniversary Selling Hurdle
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m4f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 10-11
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Rock Of Leon (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,119
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 0/7
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 30 Aug 19 | Bangor-on-Dee | Utilities Connections Management Ltd Handicap Hurdle | 5/12 | Percy Thrower (IRE) | 8 | 18 Oct 19 | Uttoxeter | Charles Hedley Country Clothing Handicap Hurdle |
| 14 Aug 19 | Worcester | HM Equine Insurance Handicap Hurdle | 4/18 | Carolines Charm (IRE) | 18 | 29 Aug 19 | Fontwell | Visit attheraces.com Novices' Chase |
| 26 Mar 19 | Hereford | Happy Retirement Noel Fehily Handicap Hurdle | 11/17 | Veiled Secret (IRE) | 2 | 4 Apr 19 | Taunton | Racing To School Handicap Hurdle |
| 26 Mar 19 | Hereford | Happy Retirement Noel Fehily Handicap Hurdle | 11/17 | Lamh Ar Lamh (IRE) | 5 | 24 Apr 19 | Taunton | C&S Electrical Wholesale / Ansell Lighting Mares' Handicap Hurdle |
| 26 Mar 19 | Hereford | Happy Retirement Noel Fehily Handicap Hurdle | 11/17 | Bentons Lad (GB) | 12 | 2 Oct 19 | Huntingdon | Download The MansionBet App Handicap Hurdle (Div I) |
| 28 Jan 19 | Kempton | Matchbook Best Value Exchange Handicap Hurdle (Div II) | PU/9 | Stonemadforspeed (IRE) | 2 | 19 Feb 19 | Taunton | Racing To School Riders Programme Selling Handicap Hurdle |
| 28 Jan 19 | Kempton | Matchbook Best Value Exchange Handicap Hurdle (Div II) | PU/9 | Elite Garde (FR) | 4 | 3 Nov 19 | Huntingdon | Fairfax Saddles Novices' Handicap Chase |
| 28 Jan 19 | Kempton | Matchbook Best Value Exchange Handicap Hurdle (Div II) | PU/9 | Mr Magill (FR) | 5 | 16 Feb 19 | Wincanton | Read Kayley Woollacott On Betway Blog Handicap Hurdle |
| 16 Dec 18 | Southwell | toals.com Casino Maiden Hurdle | PU/11 | Umbrigado (IRE) | 1 | 22 Feb 19 | Exeter | GG Tips "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle |
| 16 Dec 18 | Southwell | toals.com Casino Maiden Hurdle | PU/11 | Khage (IRE) | 2 | 9 Jan 19 | Taunton | Somerset Sight Maiden Hurdle |
| 16 Dec 18 | Southwell | toals.com Casino Maiden Hurdle | PU/11 | Shanty Alley (GB) | 7 | 11 Jan 19 | Huntingdon | EBF "National Hunt" Maiden Hurdle |
| 2 Jun 18 | Worcester | 7bets4free.com Fixed Brush Hurdle Series Maiden Hurdle | 4/10 | Earth Leader (IRE) | 6 | 16 May 19 | Fontwell | Henry Carr's 25th Birthday Maiden Hunters' Chase (For The Cuckoo Challenge Cup) |
- 5/1230 Aug 19 · Bangor-on-Dee
Utilities Connections Management Ltd Handicap Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 30 Aug 19
- Course
- Bangor-on-Dee
- Race
- Utilities Connections Management Ltd Handicap Hurdle
- This horse
- 5/12
- Winner next time
- Percy Thrower (IRE)
- Their pos
- 8
- Won on
- 18 Oct 19
- Race won
- Charles Hedley Country Clothing Handicap Hurdle
- 4/1814 Aug 19 · Worcester
HM Equine Insurance Handicap Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 14 Aug 19
- Course
- Worcester
- Race
- HM Equine Insurance Handicap Hurdle
- This horse
- 4/18
- Winner next time
- Carolines Charm (IRE)
- Their pos
- 18
- Won on
- 29 Aug 19
- At
- Fontwell
- Race won
- Visit attheraces.com Novices' Chase
- 11/1726 Mar 19 · Hereford
Happy Retirement Noel Fehily Handicap Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 26 Mar 19
- Course
- Hereford
- Race
- Happy Retirement Noel Fehily Handicap Hurdle
- This horse
- 11/17
- Winner next time
- Veiled Secret (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 4 Apr 19
- At
- Taunton
- Race won
- Racing To School Handicap Hurdle
- 11/1726 Mar 19 · Hereford
Happy Retirement Noel Fehily Handicap Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 26 Mar 19
- Course
- Hereford
- Race
- Happy Retirement Noel Fehily Handicap Hurdle
- This horse
- 11/17
- Winner next time
- Lamh Ar Lamh (IRE)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 24 Apr 19
- At
- Taunton
- Race won
- C&S Electrical Wholesale / Ansell Lighting Mares' Handicap Hurdle
- 11/1726 Mar 19 · Hereford
Happy Retirement Noel Fehily Handicap Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 26 Mar 19
- Course
- Hereford
- Race
- Happy Retirement Noel Fehily Handicap Hurdle
- This horse
- 11/17
- Winner next time
- Bentons Lad (GB)
- Their pos
- 12
- Won on
- 2 Oct 19
- Race won
- Download The MansionBet App Handicap Hurdle (Div I)
- PU/928 Jan 19 · Kempton
Matchbook Best Value Exchange Handicap Hurdle (Div II)
All fields
- Date
- 28 Jan 19
- Course
- Kempton
- Race
- Matchbook Best Value Exchange Handicap Hurdle (Div II)
- This horse
- PU/9
- Winner next time
- Stonemadforspeed (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 19 Feb 19
- At
- Taunton
- Race won
- Racing To School Riders Programme Selling Handicap Hurdle
- PU/928 Jan 19 · Kempton
Matchbook Best Value Exchange Handicap Hurdle (Div II)
All fields
- Date
- 28 Jan 19
- Course
- Kempton
- Race
- Matchbook Best Value Exchange Handicap Hurdle (Div II)
- This horse
- PU/9
- Winner next time
- Elite Garde (FR)
- Their pos
- 4
- Won on
- 3 Nov 19
- Race won
- Fairfax Saddles Novices' Handicap Chase
- PU/928 Jan 19 · Kempton
Matchbook Best Value Exchange Handicap Hurdle (Div II)
All fields
- Date
- 28 Jan 19
- Course
- Kempton
- Race
- Matchbook Best Value Exchange Handicap Hurdle (Div II)
- This horse
- PU/9
- Winner next time
- Mr Magill (FR)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 16 Feb 19
- Race won
- Read Kayley Woollacott On Betway Blog Handicap Hurdle
- PU/1116 Dec 18 · Southwell
toals.com Casino Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 16 Dec 18
- Course
- Southwell
- Race
- toals.com Casino Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- PU/11
- Winner next time
- Umbrigado (IRE)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 22 Feb 19
- At
- Exeter
- Race won
- GG Tips "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle
- PU/1116 Dec 18 · Southwell
toals.com Casino Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 16 Dec 18
- Course
- Southwell
- Race
- toals.com Casino Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- PU/11
- Winner next time
- Khage (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 9 Jan 19
- At
- Taunton
- Race won
- Somerset Sight Maiden Hurdle
- PU/1116 Dec 18 · Southwell
toals.com Casino Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 16 Dec 18
- Course
- Southwell
- Race
- toals.com Casino Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- PU/11
- Winner next time
- Shanty Alley (GB)
- Their pos
- 7
- Won on
- 11 Jan 19
- Race won
- EBF "National Hunt" Maiden Hurdle
- 4/102 Jun 18 · Worcester
7bets4free.com Fixed Brush Hurdle Series Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 2 Jun 18
- Course
- Worcester
- Race
- 7bets4free.com Fixed Brush Hurdle Series Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- 4/10
- Winner next time
- Earth Leader (IRE)
- Their pos
- 6
- Won on
- 16 May 19
- At
- Fontwell
- Race won
- Henry Carr's 25th Birthday Maiden Hunters' Chase (For The Cuckoo Challenge Cup)
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Alan Phillips | 10 May 18 | 30 Aug 19 | 5/9 | 104 | 95 | 104 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £1,904 | €0 |
Alan Phillips
- Trainer
- Alan Phillips
- First run
- 10 May 18
- Last run
- 30 Aug 19
- First run for yard
- 5/9
- OR first run
- 104
- OR last run
- 95
- Best OR
- 104
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,904
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 10 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £1,904 | €0 | 104 | 10 May 18 | 30 Aug 19 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,904
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 104
- First run
- 10 May 18
- Last run
- 30 Aug 19
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 9 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £1,904 | €0 | ||
| Chase | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Hurdle
- Race type
- Hurdle
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,904
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Chase
- Race type
- Chase
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 8 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £1,904 | €0 | ||
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,904
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good to Soft
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Soft
- Going
- Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m to 2m1f | 4 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £903 | €0 | ||
| 2m2f to 2m5f | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £1,001 | €0 |
2m to 2m1f
- Distance
- 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £903
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
2m2f to 2m5f
- Distance
- 2m2f to 2m5f
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,001
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Worcester | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £1,001 | €0 | ||
| Southwell | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £553 | €0 | ||
| Bangor-on-Dee | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £350 | €0 | ||
| Hereford | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Kempton | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Ludlow | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Worcester
- Course
- Worcester
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,001
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Southwell
- Course
- Southwell
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £553
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Bangor-on-Dee
- Course
- Bangor-on-Dee
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £350
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Hereford
- Course
- Hereford
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Kempton
- Course
- Kempton
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Ludlow
- Course
- Ludlow
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £854 | €0 | ||
| Class 5 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £1,050 | €0 |
Class 4
- Class
- Class 4
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £854
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 5
- Class
- Class 5
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,050
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6 to 8 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 9 to 12 runners | 7 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £1,554 | €0 | ||
| 17+ runners | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £350 | €0 |
6 to 8 runners
- Runners
- 6 to 8 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,554
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
17+ runners
- Runners
- 17+ runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £350
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| January | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| February | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| March | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| May | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £350 | €0 | ||
| June | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £301 | €0 | ||
| July | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £553 | €0 | ||
| August | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £700 | €0 | ||
| December | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
January
- Month
- January
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
February
- Month
- February
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
March
- Month
- March
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
May
- Month
- May
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £350
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
June
- Month
- June
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £301
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
July
- Month
- July
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £553
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
August
- Month
- August
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £700
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
December
- Month
- December
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stan Sheppard | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £651 | €0 | ||
| Charlie Todd | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £1,253 | €0 | ||
| Lewis Stones | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Theo Gillard | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Stan Sheppard
- Jockey
- Stan Sheppard
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £651
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Charlie Todd
- Jockey
- Charlie Todd
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,253
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Lewis Stones
- Jockey
- Lewis Stones
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Theo Gillard
- Jockey
- Theo Gillard
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Alan Phillips | 10 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £1,904 | €0 |
Alan Phillips
- Trainer
- Alan Phillips
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,904
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 10 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £1,904 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,904
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £350 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £1,001 | €0 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 61 to 120 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £553 | €0 | ||
| 121 to 365 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £350
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,001
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
61 to 120 days
- Days since last run
- 61 to 120 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £553
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
121 to 365 days
- Days since last run
- 121 to 365 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchZagreb (USA)
Parent · 1
- SireZagreb (USA)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireTheatrical (IRE)
- Sire's damSophonisbe (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchPersian Avenue (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sirePersian Mews (IRE)
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
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Breeding card
HorseWhy Lie (IRE)
Sexgelding
Foaled2011
SireZagreb (USA)
DamPersian Avenue (IRE)
DamsirePersian Mews (IRE)
Sire's sireTheatrical (IRE)
Sire's damSophonisbe (GB)
Dam's produce2 winners from 6 runners
Notable siblingPrince Roco (IRE)
Female line
- Persian Avenue (IRE) · 2 winners from 6 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Breeder | Foaled | Colour | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Zagreb (USA) | Persian Avenue (IRE) | Persian Mews (IRE) | Michael Byrnes | 10 Mar 11 | bay | gelding | NH 2m4f | NH 2m3½f |
Zagreb (USA)
- Sire
- Zagreb (USA)
- Damsire
- Persian Mews (IRE)
- Breeder
- Michael Byrnes
- Foaled
- 10 Mar 11
- Colour
- bay
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- NH 2m4f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- NH 2m3½f
Progeny of Zagreb (USA) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 1,446 | 106 | 349 | 10 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f | 486 | 32 | 104 | 4 | 0 | ||
| On Good going | 497 | 36 | 114 | 8 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f on Good going | 149 | 8 | 26 | 3 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 1,446
- Wins
- 106
- Placed
- 349
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 10
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 486
- Wins
- 32
- Placed
- 104
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 4
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good going
- Condition
- On Good going
- Runs
- 497
- Wins
- 36
- Placed
- 114
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 8
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good going
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f on Good going
- Runs
- 149
- Wins
- 8
- Placed
- 26
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Zagreb (USA) × Persian Mews (IRE) mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 10 | 0 | 1 | £1,904 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,904
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Why Lie (IRE) | 10 | 0 | 0 | £1,904 | €0 |
Why Lie (IRE)
- Horse
- Why Lie (IRE)
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,904
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 95 | 104 | 88 | 7 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 95
- Highest OR
- 104
- Lowest OR
- 88
- Rated runs
- 7
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
| Date | Course | Code | OR | Change | Pos |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 30 Aug 19 | Bangor-on-Dee | NH | 95 | 0 | 5/12 |
| 14 Aug 19 | Worcester | NH | 95 | 7 | 4/18 |
| 23 Jul 19 | Southwell | NH | 88 | -4 | 3/10 |
| 26 Mar 19 | Hereford | NH | 92 | -3 | 11/17 |
| 20 Feb 19 | Ludlow | NH | 95 | -5 | F/7 |
| 28 Jan 19 | Kempton | NH | 100 | -4 | PU/9 |
| 16 Dec 18 | Southwell | NH | 104 | - | PU/11 |
- 5/1230 Aug 19 · Bangor-on-Dee
All fields
- Date
- 30 Aug 19
- Course
- Bangor-on-Dee
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 95
- Change
- 0
- Pos
- 5/12
- 4/1814 Aug 19 · Worcester
All fields
- Date
- 14 Aug 19
- Course
- Worcester
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 95
- Change
- 7
- Pos
- 4/18
- 3/1023 Jul 19 · Southwell
All fields
- Date
- 23 Jul 19
- Course
- Southwell
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 88
- Change
- -4
- Pos
- 3/10
- 11/1726 Mar 19 · Hereford
All fields
- Date
- 26 Mar 19
- Course
- Hereford
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 92
- Change
- -3
- Pos
- 11/17
- F/720 Feb 19 · Ludlow
All fields
- Date
- 20 Feb 19
- Course
- Ludlow
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 95
- Change
- -5
- Pos
- F/7
- PU/928 Jan 19 · Kempton
All fields
- Date
- 28 Jan 19
- Course
- Kempton
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 100
- Change
- -4
- Pos
- PU/9
- PU/1116 Dec 18 · Southwell
All fields
- Date
- 16 Dec 18
- Course
- Southwell
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 104
- Change
- -
- Pos
- PU/11
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 95 | 95 | 0 | 104 | -9 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 95
- OR last run
- 95
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 104
- v highest
- -9
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 2 winners from 6 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Zagreb (USA) out of Persian Avenue (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Arctic Lord (IRE)
- Prince Roco (IRE)2W · 26R
By Presenting (GB)
- Tintinhull (IRE)0W · 3R
By Norwich (GB)
- Miss Hilliers (IRE)0W · 3R
By Beneficial (GB)
- Benefit Of Youth (IRE)2W · 15R
By Indian Danehill (IRE)
- Lucanor (IRE)0W · 5R
Female line
- 1Persian Avenue (IRE)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Why Lie foaled?
Why Lie (IRE), a bay racehorse, was foaled on 10 March 2011.
Who are the sire and dam of Why Lie?
Why Lie (IRE) is by Zagreb (USA) out of Persian Avenue (IRE), a daughter of Persian Mews (IRE), and was bred by Michael Byrnes.
Who trained Why Lie?
Why Lie (IRE) was trained by Alan Phillips and owned by Miss Rowena Edwards at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Why Lie's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Why Lie (IRE) ran 10 times without winning.
What was Why Lie's official rating?
Why Lie (IRE) was last officially rated 95 over jumps (career high 104).
Is Why Lie still racing?
Why Lie (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 30 August 2019 at Bangor-on-Dee in the Utilities Connections Management Ltd Handicap Hurdle, finishing 5th of 12, and has not run there since.
What is Why Lie's record at Worcester?
Why Lie (IRE) ran most often at Worcester, with no wins from 4 runs there.
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