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Horse profile
Victory Ide Say
- TrainerPeter Chapple-Hyam
- OwnerP W Chapple Hyam
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 2007
- Highest OR
- 85
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 2 wins from 3 runs (67%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £8,900 GB
- Last official rating
- 85 (Flat)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 10 Jun 2010, Haydock (1/11)
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 10 Jun 10 | Haydock | 1/11 | 15/8F | won 1½ | Alan Munro | Peter Chapple-Hyam | Racing UK Home of Flat Racing Handicap | Class 4 | Flat Turf | 7f | Good | 9-7 | 85 | Hot Spark (GB) | £5,828 | 40 | 1/10 |
| 1 May 10 | Doncaster | 1/13 | EvensF | won 3¼ | Alan Munro | Peter Chapple-Hyam | zestbarandgrill.com Median Auction Maiden Stakes | Class 5 | Flat Turf | 6f | Good to Firm | 9-2 | - | Burning Thread (IRE) | £2,590 | 139 | 1/12 |
| 13 Dec 09 | Kempton (AW) | 3/11 | 40/1 | 1½ | Adrian McCarthy | Peter Chapple-Hyam | Betfair Mobile Maiden Stakes | Class 5 | Flat AW | 6f | Standard | 9-3 | - | Passion Overflow (USA) | £3,238 | - | 3/7 |
Racing UK Home of Flat Racing Handicap
Class 47fGood
All fields
- Date
- 10 Jun 10
- Course
- Haydock
- Pos
- 1/11
- SP
- 15/8F
- Btn
- won 1½
- Jockey
- Alan Munro
- Trainer
- Peter Chapple-Hyam
- Race
- Racing UK Home of Flat Racing Handicap
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 7f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 9-7
- OR
- 85
- Winner / 2nd
- Hot Spark (GB)
- Winner prize
- £5,828
- Days
- 40
- Future form
- 1/10
zestbarandgrill.com Median Auction Maiden Stakes
Class 56fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 1 May 10
- Course
- Doncaster
- Pos
- 1/13
- SP
- EvensF
- Btn
- won 3¼
- Jockey
- Alan Munro
- Trainer
- Peter Chapple-Hyam
- Race
- zestbarandgrill.com Median Auction Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 9-2
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Burning Thread (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £2,590
- Days
- 139
- Future form
- 1/12
- 3/1113 Dec 09 · Kempton (AW)40/1
Betfair Mobile Maiden Stakes
Class 56fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 13 Dec 09
- Course
- Kempton (AW)
- Pos
- 3/11
- SP
- 40/1
- Btn
- 1½
- Jockey
- Adrian McCarthy
- Trainer
- Peter Chapple-Hyam
- Race
- Betfair Mobile Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-3
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Passion Overflow (USA)
- Winner prize
- £3,238
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 3/7
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 10 Jun 10 | Haydock | Racing UK Home of Flat Racing Handicap | 1/11 | Fleeting Echo (GB) | 3 | 18 Jun 10 | Goodwood | CapQuest South Africa Fillies' Handicap |
| 1 May 10 | Doncaster | zestbarandgrill.com Median Auction Maiden Stakes | 1/13 | Burning Thread (IRE) | 2 | 26 May 10 | Beverley | Weatherbys Bloodstock Insurance Conditions Stakes |
| 13 Dec 09 | Kempton (AW) | Betfair Mobile Maiden Stakes | 3/11 | Clifton Bridge (GB) | 5 | 26 Dec 09 | Wolverhampton (AW) | Bet totepool At totesport.com Maiden Stakes |
| 13 Dec 09 | Kempton (AW) | Betfair Mobile Maiden Stakes | 3/11 | Liberty Lady (IRE) | 6 | 17 Mar 10 | Southwell (AW) | 32RedBet.com Handicap |
| 13 Dec 09 | Kempton (AW) | Betfair Mobile Maiden Stakes | 3/11 | Cosimo de Medici (GB) | 7 | 7 Jan 10 | Southwell (AW) | southwell-racecourse.co.uk Rating Related Maiden Stakes |
- 1/1110 Jun 10 · Haydock
Racing UK Home of Flat Racing Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 10 Jun 10
- Course
- Haydock
- Race
- Racing UK Home of Flat Racing Handicap
- This horse
- 1/11
- Winner next time
- Fleeting Echo (GB)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 18 Jun 10
- At
- Goodwood
- Race won
- CapQuest South Africa Fillies' Handicap
- 1/131 May 10 · Doncaster
zestbarandgrill.com Median Auction Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 1 May 10
- Course
- Doncaster
- Race
- zestbarandgrill.com Median Auction Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 1/13
- Winner next time
- Burning Thread (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 26 May 10
- At
- Beverley
- Race won
- Weatherbys Bloodstock Insurance Conditions Stakes
- 3/1113 Dec 09 · Kempton (AW)
Betfair Mobile Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 13 Dec 09
- Course
- Kempton (AW)
- Race
- Betfair Mobile Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 3/11
- Winner next time
- Clifton Bridge (GB)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 26 Dec 09
- At
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Race won
- Bet totepool At totesport.com Maiden Stakes
- 3/1113 Dec 09 · Kempton (AW)
Betfair Mobile Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 13 Dec 09
- Course
- Kempton (AW)
- Race
- Betfair Mobile Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 3/11
- Winner next time
- Liberty Lady (IRE)
- Their pos
- 6
- Won on
- 17 Mar 10
- At
- Southwell (AW)
- Race won
- 32RedBet.com Handicap
- 3/1113 Dec 09 · Kempton (AW)
Betfair Mobile Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 13 Dec 09
- Course
- Kempton (AW)
- Race
- Betfair Mobile Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 3/11
- Winner next time
- Cosimo de Medici (GB)
- Their pos
- 7
- Won on
- 7 Jan 10
- At
- Southwell (AW)
- Race won
- southwell-racecourse.co.uk Rating Related Maiden Stakes
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Peter Chapple-Hyam | 13 Dec 09 | 10 Jun 10 | 3/11 | 85 | 85 | 85 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 1 | £8,900 | €0 |
Peter Chapple-Hyam
- Trainer
- Peter Chapple-Hyam
- First run
- 13 Dec 09
- Last run
- 10 Jun 10
- First run for yard
- 3/11
- OR first run
- 85
- OR last run
- 85
- Best OR
- 85
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £8,900
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 3 | 2 | 0 | 1 | £8,900 | €0 | 85 | 13 Dec 09 | 10 Jun 10 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £8,900
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 85
- First run
- 13 Dec 09
- Last run
- 10 Jun 10
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat Turf | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | £8,419 | €0 | ||
| Flat AW | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £482 | €0 |
Flat Turf
- Race type
- Flat Turf
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £8,419
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat AW
- Race type
- Flat AW
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £482
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £2,590 | €0 | ||
| Good | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £5,828 | €0 | ||
| Standard | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £482 | €0 |
Good to Firm
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,590
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,828
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Standard
- Going
- Standard
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £482
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5f to 6f | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £3,072 | €0 | ||
| 7f to 1m | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £5,828 | €0 |
5f to 6f
- Distance
- 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,072
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
7f to 1m
- Distance
- 7f to 1m
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,828
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £5,828 | €0 | ||
| Class 5 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £3,072 | €0 |
Class 4
- Class
- Class 4
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,828
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 5
- Class
- Class 5
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,072
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 9 to 12 runners | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £6,310 | €0 | ||
| 13 to 16 runners | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £2,590 | €0 |
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £6,310
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
13 to 16 runners
- Runners
- 13 to 16 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,590
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| May | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £2,590 | €0 | ||
| June | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £5,828 | €0 | ||
| December | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £482 | €0 |
May
- Month
- May
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,590
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
June
- Month
- June
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,828
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
December
- Month
- December
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £482
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Alan Munro | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | £8,419 | €0 | ||
| Adrian McCarthy | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £482 | €0 |
Alan Munro
- Jockey
- Alan Munro
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £8,419
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Adrian McCarthy
- Jockey
- Adrian McCarthy
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £482
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Peter Chapple-Hyam | 3 | 2 | 0 | 1 | £8,900 | €0 |
Peter Chapple-Hyam
- Trainer
- Peter Chapple-Hyam
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £8,900
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 3 | 2 | 0 | 1 | £8,900 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £8,900
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £482 | €0 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £5,828 | €0 | ||
| 121 to 365 days | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £2,590 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £482
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,828
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
121 to 365 days
- Days since last run
- 121 to 365 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,590
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchFath (USA)
Parent · 1
- SireFath (USA)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireDanzig (USA)
- Sire's damDesirable I (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchIde Say (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireGrand Lodge (USA)
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Ide Say (IRE) · 3 winners from 6 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fath (USA) | Ide Say (IRE) | Grand Lodge (USA) | gelding | Flat 6.9f · NH 2m1f | Flat 8.1f · NH 2m2f |
Fath (USA)
- Sire
- Fath (USA)
- Damsire
- Grand Lodge (USA)
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 6.9f · NH 2m1f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 8.1f · NH 2m2f
Progeny of Fath (USA) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 2,435 | 207 | 604 | 3 | 2 | ||
| At 5f to 6f | 1,144 | 109 | 287 | 2 | 1 | ||
| On Good going | 493 | 41 | 109 | 1 | 1 | ||
| At 5f to 6f on Good going | 231 | 19 | 50 | 0 | 0 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 2,435
- Wins
- 207
- Placed
- 604
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 2
At 5f to 6f
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 1,144
- Wins
- 109
- Placed
- 287
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 1
On Good going
- Condition
- On Good going
- Runs
- 493
- Wins
- 41
- Placed
- 109
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 1
At 5f to 6f on Good going
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f on Good going
- Runs
- 231
- Wins
- 19
- Placed
- 50
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 0
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Fath (USA) × Grand Lodge mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 2 | 2 | 0 | 15 | 3 | 2 | £11,895 | €0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 2
- Winners
- 2
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 15
- Wins
- 3
- 2nd/3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £11,895
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Victory Ide Say (IRE) | 3 | 2 | 0 | £8,900 | €0 |
| Jenny's Pride (IRE) | 12 | 1 | 0 | £2,995 | €0 |
Victory Ide Say (IRE)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £8,900
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Jenny's Pride (IRE)
- Horse
- Jenny's Pride (IRE)
- Runs
- 12
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,995
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Last winning OR | Last win | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 85 | 85 | 85 | 85 | 10 Jun 10 | 1 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 85
- Highest OR
- 85
- Lowest OR
- 85
- Last winning OR
- 85
- Last win
- 10 Jun 10
- Rated runs
- 1
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
| Date | Course | Code | OR | Pos |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 10 Jun 10 | Haydock | Flat | 85 | 1/11 |
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Last winning OR | Last win | v last winning | Highest winning OR | v highest winning | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 85 | 85 | 0 | 85 | 10 Jun 10 | 0 | 85 | 0 | 85 | 0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 85
- OR last run
- 85
- Change
- 0
- Last winning OR
- 85
- Last win
- 10 Jun 10
- v last winning
- 0
- Highest winning OR
- 85
- v highest winning
- 0
- Highest OR
- 85
- v highest
- 0
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 3 winners from 6 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Fath (USA) out of Ide Say (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Alhaarth (IRE)
- Flaunting It (IRE)0W · 7R
By Kalanisi (IRE)
- Kalasay (IRE)0W · 4R
By Clodovil (IRE)
- Dos Amigos (IRE)1W · 5R
By Thousand Words (GB)
- Maesmor Magic (IRE)0W · 2R
By Fast Company (IRE)
- Venetian Proposal (IRE)1W · 27R
Female line
- 1Ide Say (IRE)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Victory Ide Say foaled?
Victory Ide Say (IRE) was foaled in 2007.
Who are the sire and dam of Victory Ide Say?
Victory Ide Say (IRE) is by Fath (USA) out of Ide Say (IRE), a daughter of Grand Lodge (USA).
Who trained Victory Ide Say?
Victory Ide Say (IRE) was trained by Peter Chapple-Hyam and owned by P W Chapple Hyam at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Victory Ide Say's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Victory Ide Say (IRE) won 2 of 3 races (67%).
What is Victory Ide Say's biggest win?
Victory Ide Say (IRE)'s biggest win in Britain or Ireland came in the Racing UK Home of Flat Racing Handicap at Haydock on 10 June 2010.
Has Victory Ide Say ever been beaten?
Victory Ide Say (IRE) was beaten once in 3 runs in Britain and Ireland, on 13 December 2009 at Kempton (AW) (3rd of 11).
What was Victory Ide Say's official rating?
Victory Ide Say (IRE) was last officially rated 85 on the Flat (also the career high).
Is Victory Ide Say still racing?
Victory Ide Say (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 10 June 2010 at Haydock in the Racing UK Home of Flat Racing Handicap, finishing 1st of 11, and has not run there since.
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