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Horse profile
Tricky Issue
- TrainerSeamus Mullins
- OwnerCaloona Racing
- FamilyTrick Of Ace
- Sex
- mare
- Foaled
- 2012
- Colour
- bay
- Highest OR
- 99
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 10 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £782 GB
- Last official rating
- 98 (Jumps)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 5 May 2017, Fontwell (9/11)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Recent form
6699URPU3459
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5 May 17 | Fontwell | 9/11 | 14/1 | dist | Kevin Jones | Seamus Mullins | 1ststopplumbing & Cliff Bungays 90th Birthday Handicap Hurdle | Class 5 | Hurdle | 2m5½f | Good to Firm | 11-5 | 98 | Lovely Touch (IRE) | £2,599 | 23 | 2/8 |
| 12 Apr 17 | Fontwell | 5/11 | 16/1 | 6¾ | Kevin Jones | Seamus Mullins | Porto Racing Specialist Horse Racing Saddlery Mares' Handicap Hurdle | Class 5 | Hurdle | 2m5½f | Good | 11-6 | 99 | Goodnitesweetheart (GB) | £2,599 | 42 | 0/9 |
| 1 Mar 17 | Wincanton | 4/8 | 20/1 | 4¾ | Kevin Jones | Seamus Mullins | Lycetts Bloodstock Insurance Mares' Novices' Hurdle | Class 4 | Hurdle | 1m7½f | Soft | 10-5 | - | Tangley (GB) | £3,899 | 232 | 0/7 |
| 12 Jul 16 | Worcester | 3/12 | 200/1 | 21 | Kevin Jones | Seamus Mullins | Buy Solar Powered Security Floodlights @greenlighting.co.uk Mares' Maiden Hurdle | Class 4 | Hurdle | 2m | Good | 10-5 | - | Lets Hope So (GB) | £3,379 | 32 | 2/11 |
| 10 Jun 16 | Newton Abbot | PU/9 | 100/1 | - | Kevin Jones | Seamus Mullins | Tiana Wishes Granny And Grumpy Happy Anniversary Mares' Novices' Hurdle | Class 4 | Hurdle | 2m1f | Good to Soft | 10-2 | - | Ivor's Queen (IRE) | £4,549 | 36 | 2/7 |
| 5 May 16 | Wincanton | UR/7 | 50/1 | - | Kevin Jones | Seamus Mullins | Hopkins Concrete Mares' Novices' Hurdle | Class 4 | Hurdle | 1m7½f | Good to Firm | 10-3 | - | Lady Persephone (FR) | £3,574 | 43 | 0/4 |
| 23 Mar 16 | Southwell (AW) | 9/10 | 33/1 | dist | Joe Fanning | Seamus Mullins | Coral Handicap (Div I) | Class 6 | Flat AW | 1m3f | Standard | 9-6 | 55 | Frosty The Snowman (IRE) | £2,588 | 233 | 0/8 |
| 3 Aug 15 | Windsor | 9/14 | 100/1 | dist | Steve Drowne | Seamus Mullins | Ladbrokes Maiden Stakes | Class 5 | Flat Turf | 1m2f | Good to Firm | 9-0 | - | Uele River (GB) | £3,068 | 27 | 2/13 |
| 7 Jul 15 | Wolverhampton (AW) | 6/10 | 66/1 | 29¾ | Steve Drowne | Seamus Mullins | Post Your Winners @ bookies.com Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I) (Tapeta) | Class 5 | Flat AW | 1m1½f | Standard | 9-0 | - | Talawat (GB) | £2,911 | 23 | 1/9 |
| 14 Jun 15 | Salisbury | 6/8 | 50/1 | 11¾ | Steve Drowne | Seamus Mullins | Wateraid Mildren Construction Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I) | Class 5 | Flat Turf | 1m | Good to Firm | 9-0 | - | Blond Me (IRE) | £3,558 | - | 3/7 |
1ststopplumbing & Cliff Bungays 90th Birthday Handicap Hurdle
Class 52m5½fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 5 May 17
- Course
- Fontwell
- Pos
- 9/11
- SP
- 14/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Kevin Jones
- Trainer
- Seamus Mullins
- Race
- 1ststopplumbing & Cliff Bungays 90th Birthday Handicap Hurdle
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m5½f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 11-5
- OR
- 98
- Winner / 2nd
- Lovely Touch (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £2,599
- Days
- 23
- Future form
- 2/8
Porto Racing Specialist Horse Racing Saddlery Mares' Handicap Hurdle
Class 52m5½fGood
All fields
- Date
- 12 Apr 17
- Course
- Fontwell
- Pos
- 5/11
- SP
- 16/1
- Btn
- 6¾
- Jockey
- Kevin Jones
- Trainer
- Seamus Mullins
- Race
- Porto Racing Specialist Horse Racing Saddlery Mares' Handicap Hurdle
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m5½f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 11-6
- OR
- 99
- Winner / 2nd
- Goodnitesweetheart (GB)
- Winner prize
- £2,599
- Days
- 42
- Future form
- 0/9
Lycetts Bloodstock Insurance Mares' Novices' Hurdle
Class 41m7½fSoft
All fields
- Date
- 1 Mar 17
- Course
- Wincanton
- Pos
- 4/8
- SP
- 20/1
- Btn
- 4¾
- Jockey
- Kevin Jones
- Trainer
- Seamus Mullins
- Race
- Lycetts Bloodstock Insurance Mares' Novices' Hurdle
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 1m7½f
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 10-5
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Tangley (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,899
- Days
- 232
- Future form
- 0/7
Buy Solar Powered Security Floodlights @greenlighting.co.uk Mares' Maiden Hurdle
Class 42mGood
All fields
- Date
- 12 Jul 16
- Course
- Worcester
- Pos
- 3/12
- SP
- 200/1
- Btn
- 21
- Jockey
- Kevin Jones
- Trainer
- Seamus Mullins
- Race
- Buy Solar Powered Security Floodlights @greenlighting.co.uk Mares' Maiden Hurdle
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 10-5
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Lets Hope So (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,379
- Days
- 32
- Future form
- 2/11
Tiana Wishes Granny And Grumpy Happy Anniversary Mares' Novices' Hurdle
Class 42m1fGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 10 Jun 16
- Course
- Newton Abbot
- Pos
- PU/9
- SP
- 100/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Kevin Jones
- Trainer
- Seamus Mullins
- Race
- Tiana Wishes Granny And Grumpy Happy Anniversary Mares' Novices' Hurdle
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m1f
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 10-2
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Ivor's Queen (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £4,549
- Days
- 36
- Future form
- 2/7
Hopkins Concrete Mares' Novices' Hurdle
Class 41m7½fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 5 May 16
- Course
- Wincanton
- Pos
- UR/7
- SP
- 50/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Kevin Jones
- Trainer
- Seamus Mullins
- Race
- Hopkins Concrete Mares' Novices' Hurdle
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 1m7½f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 10-3
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Lady Persephone (FR)
- Winner prize
- £3,574
- Days
- 43
- Future form
- 0/4
- 9/1023 Mar 16 · Southwell (AW)33/1
Coral Handicap (Div I)
Class 61m3fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 23 Mar 16
- Course
- Southwell (AW)
- Pos
- 9/10
- SP
- 33/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Joe Fanning
- Trainer
- Seamus Mullins
- Race
- Coral Handicap (Div I)
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 1m3f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-6
- OR
- 55
- Winner / 2nd
- Frosty The Snowman (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £2,588
- Days
- 233
- Future form
- 0/8
Ladbrokes Maiden Stakes
Class 51m2fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 3 Aug 15
- Course
- Windsor
- Pos
- 9/14
- SP
- 100/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Steve Drowne
- Trainer
- Seamus Mullins
- Race
- Ladbrokes Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m2f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 9-0
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Uele River (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,068
- Days
- 27
- Future form
- 2/13
- 6/107 Jul 15 · Wolverhampton (AW)66/1
Post Your Winners @ bookies.com Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I) (Tapeta)
Class 51m1½fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 7 Jul 15
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Pos
- 6/10
- SP
- 66/1
- Btn
- 29¾
- Jockey
- Steve Drowne
- Trainer
- Seamus Mullins
- Race
- Post Your Winners @ bookies.com Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I) (Tapeta)
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 1m1½f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-0
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Talawat (GB)
- Winner prize
- £2,911
- Days
- 23
- Future form
- 1/9
Wateraid Mildren Construction Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
Class 51mGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 14 Jun 15
- Course
- Salisbury
- Pos
- 6/8
- SP
- 50/1
- Btn
- 11¾
- Jockey
- Steve Drowne
- Trainer
- Seamus Mullins
- Race
- Wateraid Mildren Construction Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 9-0
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Blond Me (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,558
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 3/7
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5 May 17 | Fontwell | 1ststopplumbing & Cliff Bungays 90th Birthday Handicap Hurdle | 9/11 | Lovely Touch (IRE) | 1 | 16 May 17 | Southwell | Shawthing Racing Partnership Handicap Hurdle |
| 5 May 17 | Fontwell | 1ststopplumbing & Cliff Bungays 90th Birthday Handicap Hurdle | 9/11 | Soulsaver (GB) | 3 | 19 Nov 17 | Fontwell | Totetrifecta Handicap Hurdle |
| 12 Jul 16 | Worcester | Buy Solar Powered Security Floodlights @greenlighting.co.uk Mares' Maiden Hurdle | 3/12 | Precision Five (GB) | 2 | 29 Jul 16 | Bangor-on-Dee | ESL Group Mares' Maiden Hurdle |
| 12 Jul 16 | Worcester | Buy Solar Powered Security Floodlights @greenlighting.co.uk Mares' Maiden Hurdle | 3/12 | Juwireya (GB) | 6 | 24 Aug 16 | Stratford | Grundon Waste Management Mares' Handicap Hurdle |
| 10 Jun 16 | Newton Abbot | Tiana Wishes Granny And Grumpy Happy Anniversary Mares' Novices' Hurdle | PU/9 | Avispa (GB) | 2 | 10 Jul 16 | Stratford | Birmingham Mail "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle |
| 10 Jun 16 | Newton Abbot | Tiana Wishes Granny And Grumpy Happy Anniversary Mares' Novices' Hurdle | PU/9 | Lets Hope So (GB) | 3 | 12 Jul 16 | Worcester | Buy Solar Powered Security Floodlights @greenlighting.co.uk Mares' Maiden Hurdle |
| 3 Aug 15 | Windsor | Ladbrokes Maiden Stakes | 9/14 | Burmese (GB) | 2 | 22 Aug 15 | Bath | Koningsdam Cup Maiden Stakes |
| 3 Aug 15 | Windsor | Ladbrokes Maiden Stakes | 9/14 | Oasis Spear (GB) | 3 | 27 Aug 15 | Wolverhampton (AW) | William Beardshaw "Not Forgotten" 2nd Anniversary Maiden Stakes (Tapeta) |
| 7 Jul 15 | Wolverhampton (AW) | Post Your Winners @ bookies.com Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I) (Tapeta) | 6/10 | Heavens Eyes (IRE) | 4 | 27 Jul 15 | Southwell (AW) | Walking The Courses Maiden Handicap |
| 14 Jun 15 | Salisbury | Wateraid Mildren Construction Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I) | 6/8 | Blond Me (IRE) | 1 | 4 Jul 15 | Sandown | Coral Distaff (Fillies) |
| 14 Jun 15 | Salisbury | Wateraid Mildren Construction Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I) | 6/8 | Althania (USA) | 2 | 7 Jul 15 | Wolverhampton (AW) | Post Your Winners @ bookies.com Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II) (Tapeta) |
| 14 Jun 15 | Salisbury | Wateraid Mildren Construction Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I) | 6/8 | Lilian Baylis (IRE) | 3 | 7 Jul 15 | Pontefract | Pontefract Squash & Leisure Centre Apprentice Handicap |
- 9/115 May 17 · Fontwell
1ststopplumbing & Cliff Bungays 90th Birthday Handicap Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 5 May 17
- Course
- Fontwell
- Race
- 1ststopplumbing & Cliff Bungays 90th Birthday Handicap Hurdle
- This horse
- 9/11
- Winner next time
- Lovely Touch (IRE)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 16 May 17
- Race won
- Shawthing Racing Partnership Handicap Hurdle
- 9/115 May 17 · Fontwell
1ststopplumbing & Cliff Bungays 90th Birthday Handicap Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 5 May 17
- Course
- Fontwell
- Race
- 1ststopplumbing & Cliff Bungays 90th Birthday Handicap Hurdle
- This horse
- 9/11
- Winner next time
- Soulsaver (GB)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 19 Nov 17
- At
- Fontwell
- Race won
- Totetrifecta Handicap Hurdle
- 3/1212 Jul 16 · Worcester
Buy Solar Powered Security Floodlights @greenlighting.co.uk Mares' Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 12 Jul 16
- Course
- Worcester
- Race
- Buy Solar Powered Security Floodlights @greenlighting.co.uk Mares' Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- 3/12
- Winner next time
- Precision Five (GB)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 29 Jul 16
- Race won
- ESL Group Mares' Maiden Hurdle
- 3/1212 Jul 16 · Worcester
Buy Solar Powered Security Floodlights @greenlighting.co.uk Mares' Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 12 Jul 16
- Course
- Worcester
- Race
- Buy Solar Powered Security Floodlights @greenlighting.co.uk Mares' Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- 3/12
- Winner next time
- Juwireya (GB)
- Their pos
- 6
- Won on
- 24 Aug 16
- Race won
- Grundon Waste Management Mares' Handicap Hurdle
- PU/910 Jun 16 · Newton Abbot
Tiana Wishes Granny And Grumpy Happy Anniversary Mares' Novices' Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 10 Jun 16
- Course
- Newton Abbot
- Race
- Tiana Wishes Granny And Grumpy Happy Anniversary Mares' Novices' Hurdle
- This horse
- PU/9
- Winner next time
- Avispa (GB)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 10 Jul 16
- Race won
- Birmingham Mail "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle
- PU/910 Jun 16 · Newton Abbot
Tiana Wishes Granny And Grumpy Happy Anniversary Mares' Novices' Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 10 Jun 16
- Course
- Newton Abbot
- Race
- Tiana Wishes Granny And Grumpy Happy Anniversary Mares' Novices' Hurdle
- This horse
- PU/9
- Winner next time
- Lets Hope So (GB)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 12 Jul 16
- Race won
- Buy Solar Powered Security Floodlights @greenlighting.co.uk Mares' Maiden Hurdle
- 9/143 Aug 15 · Windsor
Ladbrokes Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 3 Aug 15
- Course
- Windsor
- Race
- Ladbrokes Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 9/14
- Winner next time
- Burmese (GB)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 22 Aug 15
- At
- Bath
- Race won
- Koningsdam Cup Maiden Stakes
- 9/143 Aug 15 · Windsor
Ladbrokes Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 3 Aug 15
- Course
- Windsor
- Race
- Ladbrokes Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 9/14
- Winner next time
- Oasis Spear (GB)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 27 Aug 15
- At
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Race won
- William Beardshaw "Not Forgotten" 2nd Anniversary Maiden Stakes (Tapeta)
- 6/107 Jul 15 · Wolverhampton (AW)
Post Your Winners @ bookies.com Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I) (Tapeta)
All fields
- Date
- 7 Jul 15
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Race
- Post Your Winners @ bookies.com Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I) (Tapeta)
- This horse
- 6/10
- Winner next time
- Heavens Eyes (IRE)
- Their pos
- 4
- Won on
- 27 Jul 15
- At
- Southwell (AW)
- Race won
- Walking The Courses Maiden Handicap
- 6/814 Jun 15 · Salisbury
Wateraid Mildren Construction Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 14 Jun 15
- Course
- Salisbury
- Race
- Wateraid Mildren Construction Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
- This horse
- 6/8
- Winner next time
- Blond Me (IRE)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 4 Jul 15
- At
- Sandown
- Race won
- Coral Distaff (Fillies)
- 6/814 Jun 15 · Salisbury
Wateraid Mildren Construction Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 14 Jun 15
- Course
- Salisbury
- Race
- Wateraid Mildren Construction Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
- This horse
- 6/8
- Winner next time
- Althania (USA)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 7 Jul 15
- At
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Race won
- Post Your Winners @ bookies.com Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II) (Tapeta)
- 6/814 Jun 15 · Salisbury
Wateraid Mildren Construction Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 14 Jun 15
- Course
- Salisbury
- Race
- Wateraid Mildren Construction Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
- This horse
- 6/8
- Winner next time
- Lilian Baylis (IRE)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 7 Jul 15
- Race won
- Pontefract Squash & Leisure Centre Apprentice Handicap
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Seamus Mullins | 14 Jun 15 | 5 May 17 | 6/8 | 55 | 98 | 99 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £782 | €0 |
Seamus Mullins
- Trainer
- Seamus Mullins
- First run
- 14 Jun 15
- Last run
- 5 May 17
- First run for yard
- 6/8
- OR first run
- 55
- OR last run
- 98
- Best OR
- 99
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £782
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 6 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £782 | €0 | 99 | 5 May 16 | 5 May 17 | ||
| Flat | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 55 | 14 Jun 15 | 23 Mar 16 | ||
| All runs | 10 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £782 | €0 | 99 | 14 Jun 15 | 5 May 17 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £782
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 99
- First run
- 5 May 16
- Last run
- 5 May 17
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 55
- First run
- 14 Jun 15
- Last run
- 23 Mar 16
All runs
- Code
- All runs
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £782
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 99
- First run
- 14 Jun 15
- Last run
- 5 May 17
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat Turf | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Flat AW | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Hurdle | 6 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £782 | €0 |
Flat Turf
- Race type
- Flat Turf
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat AW
- Race type
- Flat AW
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Hurdle
- Race type
- Hurdle
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £782
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Good | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £496 | €0 | ||
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £286 | €0 | ||
| Standard | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Good to Firm
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £496
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good to Soft
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Soft
- Going
- Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £286
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Standard
- Going
- Standard
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 7f to 1m | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 9f to 11f | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 2m to 2m1f | 4 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £782 | €0 | ||
| 2m6f to 3m1f | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
7f to 1m
- Distance
- 7f to 1m
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
9f to 11f
- Distance
- 9f to 11f
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
2m to 2m1f
- Distance
- 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £782
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
2m6f to 3m1f
- Distance
- 2m6f to 3m1f
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fontwell | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Wincanton | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £286 | €0 | ||
| Newton Abbot | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Salisbury | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Southwell (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Windsor | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Worcester | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £496 | €0 |
Fontwell
- Course
- Fontwell
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Wincanton
- Course
- Wincanton
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £286
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Newton Abbot
- Course
- Newton Abbot
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Salisbury
- Course
- Salisbury
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Southwell (AW)
- Course
- Southwell (AW)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Windsor
- Course
- Windsor
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Wolverhampton (AW)
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Worcester
- Course
- Worcester
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £496
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £782 | €0 | ||
| Class 5 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Class 6 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Class 4
- Class
- Class 4
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £782
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 5
- Class
- Class 5
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 6
- Class
- Class 6
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6 to 8 runners | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £286 | €0 | ||
| 9 to 12 runners | 6 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £496 | €0 | ||
| 13 to 16 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
6 to 8 runners
- Runners
- 6 to 8 runners
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £286
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £496
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
13 to 16 runners
- Runners
- 13 to 16 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| March | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £286 | €0 | ||
| April | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| May | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| June | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| July | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £496 | €0 | ||
| August | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
March
- Month
- March
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £286
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
April
- Month
- April
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
May
- Month
- May
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
June
- Month
- June
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
July
- Month
- July
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £496
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
August
- Month
- August
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Kevin Jones | 6 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £782 | €0 | ||
| Steve Drowne | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Joe Fanning | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Kevin Jones
- Jockey
- Kevin Jones
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £782
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Steve Drowne
- Jockey
- Steve Drowne
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Joe Fanning
- Jockey
- Joe Fanning
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Seamus Mullins | 10 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £782 | €0 |
Seamus Mullins
- Trainer
- Seamus Mullins
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £782
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 10 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £782 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £782
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 4 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £496 | €0 | ||
| 121 to 365 days | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £286 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £496
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
121 to 365 days
- Days since last run
- 121 to 365 days
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £286
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchManduro (GER)
Parent · 1
- SireManduro (GER)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireMonsun (GER)
- Sire's damMandellicht (IRE)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchTricky Situation (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireMark Of Esteem (IRE)
- Dam's damTrick Of Ace (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Trick Of Ace (USA)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Breeding card
HorseTricky Issue (IRE)
Sexmare
Foaled2012
SireManduro (GER)
DamTricky Situation (GB)
DamsireMark Of Esteem (IRE)
Sire's sireMonsun (GER)
Sire's damMandellicht (IRE)
2nd damTrick Of Ace (USA)
Dam's produce1 winners from 2 runners
Notable siblingTricky Dicky (GB)
Female line
- Tricky Situation (GB) · by Mark Of Esteem (IRE) · 1 winners from 2 runners
- Trick Of Ace (USA) · 4 winners from 10 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Breeder | Foaled | Colour | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Manduro (GER) | Tricky Situation (GB) | Mark Of Esteem (IRE) | Onslow, Stratton & Parry | 28 Mar 12 | bay | mare | Flat 10.7f · NH 2m2f | Flat 8.2f · NH 2m2f |
Manduro (GER)
- Sire
- Manduro (GER)
- Damsire
- Mark Of Esteem (IRE)
- Breeder
- Onslow, Stratton & Parry
- Foaled
- 28 Mar 12
- Colour
- bay
- Sex
- mare
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 10.7f · NH 2m2f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 8.2f · NH 2m2f
Progeny of Manduro (GER) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 734 | 96 | 222 | 6 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f | 433 | 56 | 126 | 4 | 0 | ||
| On Good going | 355 | 50 | 116 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f on Good going | 192 | 26 | 59 | 1 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 734
- Wins
- 96
- Placed
- 222
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 6
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 433
- Wins
- 56
- Placed
- 126
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 4
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good going
- Condition
- On Good going
- Runs
- 355
- Wins
- 50
- Placed
- 116
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good going
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f on Good going
- Runs
- 192
- Wins
- 26
- Placed
- 59
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Manduro (GER) × Mark Of Esteem (IRE) mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 4 | 2 | 0 | 33 | 2 | 6 | £8,734 | €13,035 | ||
| National Hunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 0 | 1 | £782 | €0 | ||
| All runs | 4 | 2 | 0 | 39 | 2 | 7 | £9,516 | €13,035 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 4
- Winners
- 2
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 33
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd/3rd
- 6
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £8,734
- Prize IRE (€)
- €13,035
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £782
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
All runs
- Code
- All runs
- Runners
- 4
- Winners
- 2
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 39
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd/3rd
- 7
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £9,516
- Prize IRE (€)
- €13,035
All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Chilli Spice (IRE) | 7 | 1 | 0 | £0 | €13,035 |
| Ze King (GB) | 19 | 1 | 0 | £6,953 | €0 |
| Bright Beacon (GB) | 3 | 0 | 0 | £1,781 | €0 |
| Tricky Issue (IRE) | 10 | 0 | 0 | £782 | €0 |
Chilli Spice (IRE)
- Horse
- Chilli Spice (IRE)
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €13,035
Ze King (GB)
- Horse
- Ze King (GB)
- Runs
- 19
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £6,953
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Bright Beacon (GB)
- Horse
- Bright Beacon (GB)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,781
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Tricky Issue (IRE)
- Horse
- Tricky Issue (IRE)
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £782
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 98 | 99 | 98 | 2 |
| Flat | 55 | 55 | 55 | 1 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 98
- Highest OR
- 99
- Lowest OR
- 98
- Rated runs
- 2
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 55
- Highest OR
- 55
- Lowest OR
- 55
- Rated runs
- 1
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 98 | 98 | 0 | 99 | -1 |
| Flat | 55 | 55 | 0 | 55 | 0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 98
- OR last run
- 98
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 99
- v highest
- -1
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 55
- OR last run
- 55
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 55
- v highest
- 0
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 1 winners from 2 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Manduro (GER) out of Tricky Situation (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Holy Roman Emperor (IRE)
- Tricky Dicky (GB)11W · 54R
Female line
- 1Tricky Situation (GB) · by Mark Of Esteem (IRE)
- 2Trick Of Ace (USA)
Notable relatives
Aunt (out of 2nd dam)
- Trick Or Treat (GB)7W · 20R · 2 black-type
First cousin
- Medrano (GB)2W · 19R · 1 black-type
- Who What When (GB)3W · 10R · 1 black-type
In brief
When was Tricky Issue foaled?
Tricky Issue (IRE), a bay racehorse, was foaled on 28 March 2012.
Who are the sire and dam of Tricky Issue?
Tricky Issue (IRE) is by Manduro (GER) out of Tricky Situation (GB), a daughter of Mark Of Esteem (IRE), and was bred by Onslow, Stratton & Parry.
Who trained Tricky Issue?
Tricky Issue (IRE) was trained by Seamus Mullins and owned by Caloona Racing at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Tricky Issue's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Tricky Issue (IRE) ran 10 times without winning.
How much prize money has Tricky Issue won?
Tricky Issue (IRE) earned £782 in Britain in prize money.
What was Tricky Issue's official rating?
Tricky Issue (IRE) was last officially rated 98 over jumps (career high 99) and 55 on the Flat (also the career high).
Is Tricky Issue still racing?
Tricky Issue (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 5 May 2017 at Fontwell in the 1ststopplumbing & Cliff Bungays 90th Birthday Handicap Hurdle, finishing 9th of 11, and has not run there since.
Is Tricky Issue related to any top horses?
Tricky Issue (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Trick Or Treat (GB) (aunt, Group 3 winner), Medrano (GB) (first cousin, Listed winner) and Who What When (GB) (first cousin, Listed winner), from the Trick Of Ace (USA) family.
What is Tricky Issue's record at Fontwell?
Tricky Issue (IRE) ran most often at Fontwell, with no wins from 2 runs there.
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