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Theresnoneedfordat (IRE) silks

Horse profile

Theresnoneedfordat

Holy Roman Emperor (IRE) × Manuscript (GB) (Machiavellian (USA))
Sex
gelding
Foaled
2009
Highest OR
77
Record (GB & IRE)
3 wins from 13 runs (23%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£8,919 GB
Last official rating
77 (Flat)
Last run (GB & IRE)
27 Sep 2012, Wolverhampton (AW) (2/12)
Last win (GB & IRE)
22 Sep 2012, Wolverhampton (AW)
Recent form
4391017123331112

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtORHeadgearWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
27 Sep 12Wolverhampton (AW)2/12EvensFhdWilliam CarsonStuart Williams32Red.com HandicapClass 5Flat AW6fStandard9-777hAmoure Medici (GB)£2,26451/10
22 Sep 12Wolverhampton (AW)1/95/4Fwon 3Adam KirbyStuart Williams32Red.com Handicap (Div I)Class 5Flat AW6fStandard to Fast9-271hAvonvalley (GB)£2,91180/8
14 Sep 12Wolverhampton (AW)1/911/8Fwon 1¼Pat CosgraveStuart Williams32Red HandicapClass 5Flat AW6fStandard to Fast9-466hAvon Breeze (GB)£2,426140/8
31 Aug 12Wolverhampton (AW)1/117/2won 2William CarsonStuart WilliamsLadbrokes Mobile HandicapClass 6Flat AW6fStandard9-460hIndieslad (GB)£1,70481/10
23 Aug 12Folkestone3/63/1½William CarsonStuart WilliamsWW Electrical HandicapClass 6Flat Turf6fGood to Firm9-260bStrategic Action (IRE)£1,70420/5
21 Aug 12Yarmouth3/1012/1½William CarsonStuart WilliamsPleasurewood Hills Maiden HandicapClass 5Flat Turf6fGood to Firm8-1160bAmbitious Boy (GB)£2,264131/8
8 Aug 12Yarmouth3/63/11Ashley MorganStuart Williams3 Sun HandicapClass 6Flat Turf5fGood9-260bSarah Berry (GB)£1,617260/5
13 Jul 12Chester12/1266/1distSaleem GolamStuart WilliamsIrvings Solicitors HandicapClass 5Flat Turf7fGood to Soft9-064bDay Of The Eagle (IRE)£3,881141/11
29 Jun 12Chester17/1733/1distMartin HarleyStuart WilliamsTrafford Centre Fashion Flutter HandicapClass 5Flat Turf7½fGood9-669bLolita Lebron (IRE)£4,043241/16
5 Jun 12Leicester10/1333/127¾William CarsonStuart WilliamsDiamond Jubilee HandicapClass 4Flat Turf7fGood to Soft8-1271-Lady Loch (GB)£6,3012391/11
10 Oct 11Salisbury9/105/1distKieren FallonLydia PearceBathwick Tyres Maiden Auction Stakes (Div II)Class 5Flat Turf7fGood8-11--Medieval Bishop (IRE)£2,264454/9
26 Aug 11Brighton3/715/8F¾Seb SandersLydia Pearcetoteswinger More Ways To Win Maiden Auction StakesClass 5Flat Turf6fSoft8-12--Red Quartet (IRE)£2,523191/6
7 Aug 11Windsor4/1212/14Seb SandersLydia PearceWindsor Vehicle Leasing Maiden Auction StakesClass 5Flat Turf6fGood to Firm8-12--I'm So Glad (GB)£2,659-0/11
  • 2/1227 Sep 12 · Wolverhampton (AW)EvensF

    32Red.com Handicap

    Class 56fStandard

    All fields
    Date
    27 Sep 12
    Course
    Wolverhampton (AW)
    Pos
    2/12
    SP
    EvensF
    Btn
    hd
    Race
    32Red.com Handicap
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Flat AW
    Dist
    6f
    Going
    Standard
    Wgt
    9-7
    OR
    77
    Headgear
    h
    Winner / 2nd
    Amoure Medici (GB)
    Winner prize
    £2,264
    Days
    5
    Future form
    1/10
  • 1/922 Sep 12 · Wolverhampton (AW)5/4F

    32Red.com Handicap (Div I)

    Class 56fStandard to Fast

    All fields
    Date
    22 Sep 12
    Course
    Wolverhampton (AW)
    Pos
    1/9
    SP
    5/4F
    Btn
    won 3
    Race
    32Red.com Handicap (Div I)
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Flat AW
    Dist
    6f
    Going
    Standard to Fast
    Wgt
    9-2
    OR
    71
    Headgear
    h
    Winner / 2nd
    Avonvalley (GB)
    Winner prize
    £2,911
    Days
    8
    Future form
    0/8
  • 1/914 Sep 12 · Wolverhampton (AW)11/8F

    32Red Handicap

    Class 56fStandard to Fast

    All fields
    Date
    14 Sep 12
    Course
    Wolverhampton (AW)
    Pos
    1/9
    SP
    11/8F
    Btn
    won 1¼
    Race
    32Red Handicap
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Flat AW
    Dist
    6f
    Going
    Standard to Fast
    Wgt
    9-4
    OR
    66
    Headgear
    h
    Winner / 2nd
    Avon Breeze (GB)
    Winner prize
    £2,426
    Days
    14
    Future form
    0/8
  • 1/1131 Aug 12 · Wolverhampton (AW)7/2

    Ladbrokes Mobile Handicap

    Class 66fStandard

    All fields
    Date
    31 Aug 12
    Course
    Wolverhampton (AW)
    Pos
    1/11
    SP
    7/2
    Btn
    won 2
    Race
    Ladbrokes Mobile Handicap
    Class
    Class 6
    Type
    Flat AW
    Dist
    6f
    Going
    Standard
    Wgt
    9-4
    OR
    60
    Headgear
    h
    Winner / 2nd
    Indieslad (GB)
    Winner prize
    £1,704
    Days
    8
    Future form
    1/10
  • 3/623 Aug 12 · Folkestone3/1

    WW Electrical Handicap

    Class 66fGood to Firm

    All fields
    Date
    23 Aug 12
    Course
    Folkestone
    Pos
    3/6
    SP
    3/1
    Btn
    ½
    Race
    WW Electrical Handicap
    Class
    Class 6
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    6f
    Going
    Good to Firm
    Wgt
    9-2
    OR
    60
    Headgear
    b
    Winner prize
    £1,704
    Days
    2
    Future form
    0/5
  • 3/1021 Aug 12 · Yarmouth12/1

    Pleasurewood Hills Maiden Handicap

    Class 56fGood to Firm

    All fields
    Date
    21 Aug 12
    Course
    Yarmouth
    Pos
    3/10
    SP
    12/1
    Btn
    ½
    Race
    Pleasurewood Hills Maiden Handicap
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    6f
    Going
    Good to Firm
    Wgt
    8-11
    OR
    60
    Headgear
    b
    Winner / 2nd
    Ambitious Boy (GB)
    Winner prize
    £2,264
    Days
    13
    Future form
    1/8
  • 3/68 Aug 12 · Yarmouth3/1

    3 Sun Handicap

    Class 65fGood

    All fields
    Date
    8 Aug 12
    Course
    Yarmouth
    Pos
    3/6
    SP
    3/1
    Btn
    1
    Race
    3 Sun Handicap
    Class
    Class 6
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    5f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    9-2
    OR
    60
    Headgear
    b
    Winner / 2nd
    Sarah Berry (GB)
    Winner prize
    £1,617
    Days
    26
    Future form
    0/5
  • 12/1213 Jul 12 · Chester66/1

    Irvings Solicitors Handicap

    Class 57fGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    13 Jul 12
    Course
    Chester
    Pos
    12/12
    SP
    66/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Irvings Solicitors Handicap
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    7f
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    9-0
    OR
    64
    Headgear
    b
    Winner prize
    £3,881
    Days
    14
    Future form
    1/11
  • 17/1729 Jun 12 · Chester33/1

    Trafford Centre Fashion Flutter Handicap

    Class 57½fGood

    All fields
    Date
    29 Jun 12
    Course
    Chester
    Pos
    17/17
    SP
    33/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Trafford Centre Fashion Flutter Handicap
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    7½f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    9-6
    OR
    69
    Headgear
    b
    Winner prize
    £4,043
    Days
    24
    Future form
    1/16
  • 10/135 Jun 12 · Leicester33/1

    Diamond Jubilee Handicap

    Class 47fGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    5 Jun 12
    Course
    Leicester
    Pos
    10/13
    SP
    33/1
    Btn
    27¾
    Race
    Diamond Jubilee Handicap
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    7f
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    8-12
    OR
    71
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Lady Loch (GB)
    Winner prize
    £6,301
    Days
    239
    Future form
    1/11
  • 9/1010 Oct 11 · Salisbury5/1

    Bathwick Tyres Maiden Auction Stakes (Div II)

    Class 57fGood

    All fields
    Date
    10 Oct 11
    Course
    Salisbury
    Pos
    9/10
    SP
    5/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Bathwick Tyres Maiden Auction Stakes (Div II)
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    7f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    8-11
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner prize
    £2,264
    Days
    45
    Future form
    4/9
  • 3/726 Aug 11 · Brighton15/8F

    toteswinger More Ways To Win Maiden Auction Stakes

    Class 56fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    26 Aug 11
    Course
    Brighton
    Pos
    3/7
    SP
    15/8F
    Btn
    ¾
    Race
    toteswinger More Ways To Win Maiden Auction Stakes
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    6f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    8-12
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Red Quartet (IRE)
    Winner prize
    £2,523
    Days
    19
    Future form
    1/6
  • 4/127 Aug 11 · Windsor12/1

    Windsor Vehicle Leasing Maiden Auction Stakes

    Class 56fGood to Firm

    All fields
    Date
    7 Aug 11
    Course
    Windsor
    Pos
    4/12
    SP
    12/1
    Btn
    4
    Race
    Windsor Vehicle Leasing Maiden Auction Stakes
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    6f
    Going
    Good to Firm
    Wgt
    8-12
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    I'm So Glad (GB)
    Winner prize
    £2,659
    Days
    -
    Future form
    0/11

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
27 Sep 12Wolverhampton (AW)32Red.com Handicap2/12Zip Lock (IRE)1223 Oct 12YarmouthPleasurewood Hills Theme Park Handicap (Div I)
31 Aug 12Wolverhampton (AW)Ladbrokes Mobile Handicap1/11Purley Queen (IRE)713 Sep 12EpsomTilley & Barrett Demolition Handicap (Div II)
21 Aug 12YarmouthPleasurewood Hills Maiden Handicap3/10Ambitious Boy (GB)11 Sep 12ChesterGolden Square Shopping Centre's "Stylish Lady" Handicap
13 Jul 12ChesterIrvings Solicitors Handicap12/12Ferdy (IRE)525 Jul 12Cattericktyregiant.com Handicap (Div I)
29 Jun 12ChesterTrafford Centre Fashion Flutter Handicap17/17Double Cee (GB)1119 Jul 12Hamiltontotepool.com Handicap
5 Jun 12LeicesterDiamond Jubilee Handicap10/13Byronic Hero (GB)1124 Jun 12PontefractBet totepool On All Irish Racing Handicap
10 Oct 11SalisburyBathwick Tyres Maiden Auction Stakes (Div II)9/10Pawprints (IRE)425 May 12YarmouthGreat Yarmouth Tourist Authority Median Auction Maiden Stakes
10 Oct 11SalisburyBathwick Tyres Maiden Auction Stakes (Div II)9/10Serene Oasis (IRE)515 Oct 11Cattericktoteswinger Median Auction Maiden Stakes
10 Oct 11SalisburyBathwick Tyres Maiden Auction Stakes (Div II)9/10Malih (GB)628 Jun 12WarwickWeatherbys Bank Maiden Stakes
10 Oct 11SalisburyBathwick Tyres Maiden Auction Stakes (Div II)9/10Intransigent (GB)711 Nov 11Lingfield (AW)British Stallion Studs EBF/Singapore Turf Club Maiden Stakes
26 Aug 11Brightontoteswinger More Ways To Win Maiden Auction Stakes3/7Red Quartet (IRE)17 Oct 11YorkTSG Stakes (Nursery)
  • 2/1227 Sep 12 · Wolverhampton (AW)

    32Red.com Handicap

    All fields
    Date
    27 Sep 12
    Course
    Wolverhampton (AW)
    Race
    32Red.com Handicap
    This horse
    2/12
    Winner next time
    Zip Lock (IRE)
    Their pos
    12
    Won on
    23 Oct 12
    Race won
    Pleasurewood Hills Theme Park Handicap (Div I)
  • 1/1131 Aug 12 · Wolverhampton (AW)

    Ladbrokes Mobile Handicap

    All fields
    Date
    31 Aug 12
    Course
    Wolverhampton (AW)
    Race
    Ladbrokes Mobile Handicap
    This horse
    1/11
    Winner next time
    Purley Queen (IRE)
    Their pos
    7
    Won on
    13 Sep 12
    Race won
    Tilley & Barrett Demolition Handicap (Div II)
  • 3/1021 Aug 12 · Yarmouth

    Pleasurewood Hills Maiden Handicap

    All fields
    Date
    21 Aug 12
    Course
    Yarmouth
    Race
    Pleasurewood Hills Maiden Handicap
    This horse
    3/10
    Winner next time
    Ambitious Boy (GB)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    1 Sep 12
    Race won
    Golden Square Shopping Centre's "Stylish Lady" Handicap
  • 12/1213 Jul 12 · Chester

    Irvings Solicitors Handicap

    All fields
    Date
    13 Jul 12
    Course
    Chester
    Race
    Irvings Solicitors Handicap
    This horse
    12/12
    Winner next time
    Ferdy (IRE)
    Their pos
    5
    Won on
    25 Jul 12
    Race won
    tyregiant.com Handicap (Div I)
  • 17/1729 Jun 12 · Chester

    Trafford Centre Fashion Flutter Handicap

    All fields
    Date
    29 Jun 12
    Course
    Chester
    Race
    Trafford Centre Fashion Flutter Handicap
    This horse
    17/17
    Winner next time
    Double Cee (GB)
    Their pos
    11
    Won on
    19 Jul 12
    Race won
    totepool.com Handicap
  • 10/135 Jun 12 · Leicester

    Diamond Jubilee Handicap

    All fields
    Date
    5 Jun 12
    Course
    Leicester
    Race
    Diamond Jubilee Handicap
    This horse
    10/13
    Winner next time
    Byronic Hero (GB)
    Their pos
    11
    Won on
    24 Jun 12
    Race won
    Bet totepool On All Irish Racing Handicap
  • 9/1010 Oct 11 · Salisbury

    Bathwick Tyres Maiden Auction Stakes (Div II)

    All fields
    Date
    10 Oct 11
    Course
    Salisbury
    Race
    Bathwick Tyres Maiden Auction Stakes (Div II)
    This horse
    9/10
    Winner next time
    Pawprints (IRE)
    Their pos
    4
    Won on
    25 May 12
    Race won
    Great Yarmouth Tourist Authority Median Auction Maiden Stakes
  • 9/1010 Oct 11 · Salisbury

    Bathwick Tyres Maiden Auction Stakes (Div II)

    All fields
    Date
    10 Oct 11
    Course
    Salisbury
    Race
    Bathwick Tyres Maiden Auction Stakes (Div II)
    This horse
    9/10
    Winner next time
    Serene Oasis (IRE)
    Their pos
    5
    Won on
    15 Oct 11
    Race won
    toteswinger Median Auction Maiden Stakes
  • 9/1010 Oct 11 · Salisbury

    Bathwick Tyres Maiden Auction Stakes (Div II)

    All fields
    Date
    10 Oct 11
    Course
    Salisbury
    Race
    Bathwick Tyres Maiden Auction Stakes (Div II)
    This horse
    9/10
    Winner next time
    Malih (GB)
    Their pos
    6
    Won on
    28 Jun 12
    Race won
    Weatherbys Bank Maiden Stakes
  • 9/1010 Oct 11 · Salisbury

    Bathwick Tyres Maiden Auction Stakes (Div II)

    All fields
    Date
    10 Oct 11
    Course
    Salisbury
    Race
    Bathwick Tyres Maiden Auction Stakes (Div II)
    This horse
    9/10
    Winner next time
    Intransigent (GB)
    Their pos
    7
    Won on
    11 Nov 11
    At
    Lingfield (AW)
    Race won
    British Stallion Studs EBF/Singapore Turf Club Maiden Stakes
  • 3/726 Aug 11 · Brighton

    toteswinger More Ways To Win Maiden Auction Stakes

    All fields
    Date
    26 Aug 11
    Course
    Brighton
    Race
    toteswinger More Ways To Win Maiden Auction Stakes
    This horse
    3/7
    Winner next time
    Red Quartet (IRE)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    7 Oct 11
    Race won
    TSG Stakes (Nursery)

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerMoved fromFirst runLast runFirst run for yardOR first runOR last runBest ORRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Stuart WilliamsLydia Pearce5 Jun 1227 Sep 1210/137177771031330.0%50.0%£8,544€0
Lydia Pearce-7 Aug 1110 Oct 114/12---30010.0%0.0%£375€0
Stuart Williams
Moved from
Lydia Pearce
First run
5 Jun 12
Last run
27 Sep 12
First run for yard
10/13
OR first run
71
OR last run
77
Best OR
77
Runs
10
Wins
3
2nd
1
3rd
3
Win %
30.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£8,544
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Lydia Pearce
First run
7 Aug 11
Last run
10 Oct 11
First run for yard
4/12
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£375
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Spells with each trainer in race order, latest first (a horse that returns to a trainer shows a new spell). From British and Irish runs since 1990.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)Best ORFirst runLast run
Flat1331423.1%38.5%£8,919€0777 Aug 1127 Sep 12
Flat
Code
Flat
Runs
13
Wins
3
2nd
1
3rd
4
Win %
23.1%
Place %
38.5%
Prize GB (£)
£8,919
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Best OR
77
First run
7 Aug 11
Last run
27 Sep 12

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Flat Turf90040.0%11.1%£1,204€0
Flat AW431075.0%100.0%£7,715€0
Flat Turf
Race type
Flat Turf
Runs
9
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
4
Win %
0.0%
Place %
11.1%
Prize GB (£)
£1,204
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Flat AW
Race type
Flat AW
Runs
4
Wins
3
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
75.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£7,715
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Good to Firm30020.0%33.3%£588€0
Good30010.0%0.0%£241€0
Good to Soft20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Soft10010.0%0.0%£375€0
Standard to Fast2200100.0%100.0%£5,337€0
Standard211050.0%100.0%£2,378€0
Good to Firm
Going
Good to Firm
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£588
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good
Going
Good
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£241
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good to Soft
Going
Good to Soft
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Soft
Going
Soft
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£375
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Standard to Fast
Going
Standard to Fast
Runs
2
Wins
2
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£5,337
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Standard
Going
Standard
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,378
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
5f to 6f931433.3%55.6%£8,919€0
7f to 1m40000.0%0.0%£0€0
5f to 6f
Distance
5f to 6f
Runs
9
Wins
3
2nd
1
3rd
4
Win %
33.3%
Place %
55.6%
Prize GB (£)
£8,919
Prize IRE (€)
€0
7f to 1m
Distance
7f to 1m
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Wolverhampton (AW)431075.0%100.0%£7,715€0
Chester20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Yarmouth20020.0%50.0%£577€0
Brighton10010.0%0.0%£375€0
Folkestone10010.0%0.0%£252€0
Leicester10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Salisbury10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Windsor10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Wolverhampton (AW)
Course
Wolverhampton (AW)
Runs
4
Wins
3
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
75.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£7,715
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Chester
Course
Chester
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Yarmouth
Course
Yarmouth
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£577
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Brighton
Course
Brighton
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£375
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Folkestone
Course
Folkestone
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£252
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Leicester
Course
Leicester
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Salisbury
Course
Salisbury
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Windsor
Course
Windsor
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Class 410000.0%0.0%£0€0
Class 5921222.2%44.4%£6,723€0
Class 6310233.3%33.3%£2,197€0
Class 4
Class
Class 4
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Class 5
Class
Class 5
Runs
9
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
2
Win %
22.2%
Place %
44.4%
Prize GB (£)
£6,723
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Class 6
Class
Class 6
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
2
Win %
33.3%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£2,197
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
6 to 8 runners30030.0%0.0%£867€0
9 to 12 runners831137.5%62.5%£8,052€0
13 to 16 runners10000.0%0.0%£0€0
17+ runners10000.0%0.0%£0€0
6 to 8 runners
Runners
6 to 8 runners
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
3
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£867
Prize IRE (€)
€0
9 to 12 runners
Runners
9 to 12 runners
Runs
8
Wins
3
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
37.5%
Place %
62.5%
Prize GB (£)
£8,052
Prize IRE (€)
€0
13 to 16 runners
Runners
13 to 16 runners
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
17+ runners
Runners
17+ runners
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
June20000.0%0.0%£0€0
July10000.0%0.0%£0€0
August610416.7%33.3%£2,908€0
September321066.7%100.0%£6,011€0
October10000.0%0.0%£0€0
June
Month
June
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
July
Month
July
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
August
Month
August
Runs
6
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
4
Win %
16.7%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£2,908
Prize IRE (€)
€0
September
Month
September
Runs
3
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
66.7%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£6,011
Prize IRE (€)
€0
October
Month
October
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
William Carson511220.0%60.0%£2,966€0
Seb Sanders20010.0%0.0%£375€0
Adam Kirby1100100.0%100.0%£2,911€0
Pat Cosgrave1100100.0%100.0%£2,426€0
Ashley Morgan10010.0%0.0%£241€0
Kieren Fallon10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Martin Harley10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Saleem Golam10000.0%0.0%£0€0
William Carson
Runs
5
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
2
Win %
20.0%
Place %
60.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,966
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Seb Sanders
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£375
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Adam Kirby
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,911
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Pat Cosgrave
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,426
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Ashley Morgan
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£241
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Kieren Fallon
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Martin Harley
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Saleem Golam
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Stuart Williams1031330.0%50.0%£8,544€0
Lydia Pearce30010.0%0.0%£375€0
Stuart Williams
Runs
10
Wins
3
2nd
1
3rd
3
Win %
30.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£8,544
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Lydia Pearce
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£375
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear40010.0%0.0%£375€0
b50030.0%20.0%£829€0
h431075.0%100.0%£7,715€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£375
Prize IRE (€)
€0
b
Headgear
b
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
3
Win %
0.0%
Place %
20.0%
Prize GB (£)
£829
Prize IRE (€)
€0
h
Headgear
h
Runs
4
Wins
3
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
75.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£7,715
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10000.0%0.0%£0€0
1 to 7 days20110.0%50.0%£926€0
8 to 14 days530160.0%80.0%£7,378€0
15 to 30 days30020.0%0.0%£616€0
31 to 60 days10000.0%0.0%£0€0
121 to 365 days10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
1 to 7 days
Days since last run
1 to 7 days
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£926
Prize IRE (€)
€0
8 to 14 days
Days since last run
8 to 14 days
Runs
5
Wins
3
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
60.0%
Place %
80.0%
Prize GB (£)
£7,378
Prize IRE (€)
€0
15 to 30 days
Days since last run
15 to 30 days
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£616
Prize IRE (€)
€0
31 to 60 days
Days since last run
31 to 60 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
121 to 365 days
Days since last run
121 to 365 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

By first-time headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
First time in any headgear10000.0%0.0%£0€0
First time blinkers10000.0%0.0%£0€0
First time hood1100100.0%100.0%£1,704€0
Headgear, all items worn before721328.6%57.1%£6,840€0
No headgear40010.0%0.0%£375€0
First time in any headgear
Headgear
First time in any headgear
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
First time blinkers
Headgear
First time blinkers
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
First time hood
Headgear
First time hood
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,704
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Headgear, all items worn before
Headgear
Headgear, all items worn before
Runs
7
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
3
Win %
28.6%
Place %
57.1%
Prize GB (£)
£6,840
Prize IRE (€)
€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£375
Prize IRE (€)
€0

A run can count in more than one "first time" row (e.g. first-time blinkers and first headgear of any kind). First time is judged against earlier British and Irish runs only.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchHoly Roman Emperor (IRE)

Parent · 1

  1. SireHoly Roman Emperor (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireDanehill (USA)
  2. Sire's damL'On Vite (USA)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchManuscript (GB)

Parent · 1

  1. DamManuscript (GB)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireMachiavellian (USA)
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Holy Roman Emperor (IRE)
Manuscript (GB)
Danehill (USA)
L'On Vite (USA)
Machiavellian (USA)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseTheresnoneedfordat (IRE)
Sexgelding
Foaled2009
SireHoly Roman Emperor (IRE)
DamManuscript (GB)
DamsireMachiavellian (USA)
Sire's sireDanehill (USA)
Sire's damL'On Vite (USA)
Dam's produce1 winners from 3 runners
Notable siblingKitchi (IRE)

Female line

  1. Manuscript (GB) · 1 winners from 3 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Holy Roman Emperor (IRE)Manuscript (GB)Machiavellian (USA)geldingFlat 7.7f · NH 2m1½fFlat 8.5f · NH 2m2½f
Holy Roman Emperor (IRE)
Sex
gelding
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 7.7f · NH 2m1½f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 8.5f · NH 2m2½f

Progeny of Holy Roman Emperor (IRE) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All Flat runs9,2909922,69010.7%29.0%133
At 5f to 6f2,71531483211.6%30.6%93
On AW going3,3633531,01710.5%30.2%43
At 5f to 6f on AW going8429027410.7%32.5%43
All Flat runs
Condition
All Flat runs
Runs
9,290
Wins
992
Placed
2,690
Win %
10.7%
Place %
29.0%
This horse runs
13
This horse wins
3
At 5f to 6f
Condition
At 5f to 6f
Runs
2,715
Wins
314
Placed
832
Win %
11.6%
Place %
30.6%
This horse runs
9
This horse wins
3
On AW going
Condition
On AW going
Runs
3,363
Wins
353
Placed
1,017
Win %
10.5%
Place %
30.2%
This horse runs
4
This horse wins
3
At 5f to 6f on AW going
Condition
At 5f to 6f on AW going
Runs
842
Wins
90
Placed
274
Win %
10.7%
Place %
32.5%
This horse runs
4
This horse wins
3

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Holy Roman Emperor (IRE) × Machiavellian mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Flat11872.7%195132113.7%£82,205€74,300
Flat
Code
Flat
Runners
11
Winners
8
Winners %
72.7%
Black-type winners
1
Runs
95
Wins
13
2nd/3rd
21
Win %
13.7%
Prize GB (£)
£82,205
Prize IRE (€)
€74,300

All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsBest winPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Wilshire Boulevard (IRE)621Group/Grade 3£43,000€54,900
Havelovewilltravel (IRE)1030-£10,110€0
Theresnoneedfordat (IRE)1330-£8,919€0
Ebadan (IRE)410-£0€10,695
Roman Order (IRE)810-£1,402€0
Valais Girl (GB)1110-£11,413€0
Bannister Bell (IRE)1310-£5,342€0
Black Agnes (IRE)1610-£770€8,705
Poker Alice (GB)100-£0€0
Female Strategy (IRE)600-£746€0
Imperial Wave (IRE)700-£503€0
Wilshire Boulevard (IRE)
Runs
6
Wins
2
Black-type wins
1
Best win
Group/Grade 3
Prize GB (£)
£43,000
Prize IRE (€)
€54,900
Havelovewilltravel (IRE)
Runs
10
Wins
3
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£10,110
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Theresnoneedfordat (IRE)
Runs
13
Wins
3
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£8,919
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Ebadan (IRE)
Runs
4
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€10,695
Roman Order (IRE)
Runs
8
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£1,402
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Valais Girl (GB)
Runs
11
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£11,413
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Bannister Bell (IRE)
Runs
13
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£5,342
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Black Agnes (IRE)
Runs
16
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£770
Prize IRE (€)
€8,705
Poker Alice (GB)
Runs
1
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Female Strategy (IRE)
Runs
6
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£746
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Imperial Wave (IRE)
Runs
7
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£503
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Ratings

Official ratings

CodeCurrent ORHighest ORLowest ORLast winning ORLast winRated runs
Flat7777607122 Sep 1210
Flat
Code
Flat
Current OR
77
Highest OR
77
Lowest OR
60
Last winning OR
71
Last win
22 Sep 12
Rated runs
10

Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.

Official rating by run

DateCourseCodeORChangePos
27 Sep 12Wolverhampton (AW)Flat7762/12
22 Sep 12Wolverhampton (AW)Flat7151/9
14 Sep 12Wolverhampton (AW)Flat6661/9
31 Aug 12Wolverhampton (AW)Flat6001/11
23 Aug 12FolkestoneFlat6003/6
21 Aug 12YarmouthFlat6003/10
8 Aug 12YarmouthFlat60-43/6
13 Jul 12ChesterFlat64-512/12
29 Jun 12ChesterFlat69-217/17
5 Jun 12LeicesterFlat71-10/13
  • 2/1227 Sep 12 · Wolverhampton (AW)
    All fields
    Date
    27 Sep 12
    Course
    Wolverhampton (AW)
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    77
    Change
    6
    Pos
    2/12
  • 1/922 Sep 12 · Wolverhampton (AW)
    All fields
    Date
    22 Sep 12
    Course
    Wolverhampton (AW)
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    71
    Change
    5
    Pos
    1/9
  • 1/914 Sep 12 · Wolverhampton (AW)
    All fields
    Date
    14 Sep 12
    Course
    Wolverhampton (AW)
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    66
    Change
    6
    Pos
    1/9
  • 1/1131 Aug 12 · Wolverhampton (AW)
    All fields
    Date
    31 Aug 12
    Course
    Wolverhampton (AW)
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    60
    Change
    0
    Pos
    1/11
  • 3/623 Aug 12 · Folkestone
    All fields
    Date
    23 Aug 12
    Course
    Folkestone
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    60
    Change
    0
    Pos
    3/6
  • 3/1021 Aug 12 · Yarmouth
    All fields
    Date
    21 Aug 12
    Course
    Yarmouth
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    60
    Change
    0
    Pos
    3/10
  • 3/68 Aug 12 · Yarmouth
    All fields
    Date
    8 Aug 12
    Course
    Yarmouth
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    60
    Change
    -4
    Pos
    3/6
  • 12/1213 Jul 12 · Chester
    All fields
    Date
    13 Jul 12
    Course
    Chester
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    64
    Change
    -5
    Pos
    12/12
  • 17/1729 Jun 12 · Chester
    All fields
    Date
    29 Jun 12
    Course
    Chester
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    69
    Change
    -2
    Pos
    17/17
  • 10/135 Jun 12 · Leicester
    All fields
    Date
    5 Jun 12
    Course
    Leicester
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    71
    Change
    -
    Pos
    10/13

Current mark v winning marks

CodeCurrent OROR last runChangeLast winning ORLast winv last winningHighest winning ORv highest winningHighest ORv highest
Flat777707122 Sep 126716770
Flat
Code
Flat
Current OR
77
OR last run
77
Change
0
Last winning OR
71
Last win
22 Sep 12
v last winning
6
Highest winning OR
71
v highest winning
6
Highest OR
77
v highest
0

Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.

Family

Dam summary

Manuscript (GB)

G1 winners
0
Produce
1 winners from 3 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Holy Roman Emperor (IRE) out of Manuscript (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Key Of Luck (USA)

By Footstepsinthesand (GB)

Female line

  1. 1Manuscript (GB)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

View full Manuscript family

In brief

When was Theresnoneedfordat foaled?

Theresnoneedfordat (IRE) was foaled in 2009.

Who are the sire and dam of Theresnoneedfordat?

Theresnoneedfordat (IRE) is by Holy Roman Emperor (IRE) out of Manuscript (GB), a daughter of Machiavellian (USA).

Who trained Theresnoneedfordat?

Theresnoneedfordat (IRE) was trained by Stuart Williams and owned by R Morris J Russell T O'Brien M Nolan at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland, having also run for Lydia Pearce.

What is Theresnoneedfordat's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Theresnoneedfordat (IRE) won 3 of 13 races (23%).

What is Theresnoneedfordat's biggest win?

Theresnoneedfordat (IRE)'s biggest wins in Britain and Ireland were 2 Class 5 victories, most recently the 32Red.com Handicap at Wolverhampton (AW) on 22 September 2012.

Has Theresnoneedfordat ever been beaten?

Theresnoneedfordat (IRE) was beaten 10 times in 13 runs in Britain and Ireland, the first time on 7 August 2011 at Windsor (4th of 12).

What was Theresnoneedfordat's official rating?

Theresnoneedfordat (IRE) was last officially rated 77 on the Flat (also the career high).

Is Theresnoneedfordat still racing?

Theresnoneedfordat (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 27 September 2012 at Wolverhampton (AW) in the 32Red.com Handicap, finishing 2nd of 12, and has not run there since.

What is Theresnoneedfordat's record at Wolverhampton (AW)?

Theresnoneedfordat (IRE) ran most often at Wolverhampton (AW), with 3 wins from 4 runs there.

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