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Horse profile

Thereorthereabouts

Kalanisi (IRE) × The Vicars Lady (IRE) (Old Vic (GB))

Sex: mare
Foaled: 2008

Record (GB & IRE): 0 wins from 1 run (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE): £477 GB
Last run (GB & IRE): 22 Jul 2014, Southwell (3/6)
Last win (GB & IRE): Never won

Recent form

Form

Race record

Date	Course	Pos	SP	Btn	Jockey	Trainer	Race	Class	Type	Dist	Going	Wgt	Winner / 2nd	Winner prize	Future form
22 Jul 14	Southwell	3/6	20/1	13½	Adrian Lane	Donald McCain	Ladbrokes Mares' Novices' Hurdle	Class 4	Hurdle	2m4½f	Good	10-12	My Betty (IRE)	£3,249	1/5

3/622 Jul 14 · Southwell20/1
Ladbrokes Mares' Novices' Hurdle
Class 42m4½fGood
All fields
Date
22 Jul 14
Course
Southwell
Pos
3/6
SP
20/1
Btn
13½
Jockey
Adrian Lane
Trainer
Donald McCain
Race
Ladbrokes Mares' Novices' Hurdle
Class
Class 4
Type
Hurdle
Dist
2m4½f
Going
Good
Wgt
10-12
Winner / 2nd
My Betty (IRE)
Winner prize
£3,249
Future form
1/5

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

Date	Course	Race	This horse	Winner next time	Their pos	Won on	At	Race won
22 Jul 14	Southwell	Ladbrokes Mares' Novices' Hurdle	3/6	Garnock (IRE)	5	28 Aug 14	Fontwell	32Redsport.com Mares' Novices' Hurdle

3/622 Jul 14 · Southwell
Ladbrokes Mares' Novices' Hurdle
All fields
Date
22 Jul 14
Course
Southwell
Race
Ladbrokes Mares' Novices' Hurdle
This horse
3/6
Winner next time
Garnock (IRE)
Their pos
5
Won on
28 Aug 14
At
Fontwell
Race won
32Redsport.com Mares' Novices' Hurdle

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

Trainer	First run	Last run	First run for yard	Runs	Wins	2nd	3rd	Win %	Place %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
Donald McCain	22 Jul 14	22 Jul 14	3/6	1	0	0	1	0.0%	0.0%	£477	€0

Donald McCain

Trainer: Donald McCain
First run: 22 Jul 14
Last run: 22 Jul 14
First run for yard: 3/6
Runs: 1
Wins: 0
2nd: 0
3rd: 1
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 0.0%
Prize GB (£): £477
Prize IRE (€): €0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

Code	Runs	Wins	2nd	3rd	Win %	Place %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)	First run	Last run
National Hunt	1	0	0	1	0.0%	0.0%	£477	€0	22 Jul 14	22 Jul 14

National Hunt

Code: National Hunt
Runs: 1
Wins: 0
2nd: 0
3rd: 1
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 0.0%
Prize GB (£): £477
Prize IRE (€): €0
First run: 22 Jul 14
Last run: 22 Jul 14

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

Pedigree

Sire branchKalanisi (IRE)

Parent · 1

SireKalanisi (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

Sire's sireDoyoun (GB)
Sire's damKalamba (IRE)

Great-grandparents · 4

Sire's sire's sireNot traced
Sire's sire's damNot traced
Sire's dam's sireNot traced
Sire's dam's damNot traced

Dam branchThe Vicars Lady (IRE)

Parent · 1

DamThe Vicars Lady (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

Dam's sireOld Vic (GB)
Dam's damCarmen Lady (IRE)

Great-grandparents · 4

Dam's sire's sireNot traced
Dam's sire's damNot traced
Dam's dam's sireNot traced
Dam's dam's damNot traced

Kalanisi (IRE)

The Vicars Lady (IRE)

Doyoun (GB)

Kalamba (IRE)

Old Vic (GB)

Carmen Lady (IRE)

Not traced

Breeding card

HorseThereorthereabouts (IRE)

Sexmare

Foaled2008

SireKalanisi (IRE)

DamThe Vicars Lady (IRE)

DamsireOld Vic (GB)

Sire's sireDoyoun (GB)

Sire's damKalamba (IRE)

2nd damCarmen Lady (IRE)

Dam's produce1 winners from 4 runners

Notable siblingChristening Spoon (IRE)

Female line

The Vicars Lady (IRE) · by Old Vic (GB) · 1 winners from 4 runners
Carmen Lady (IRE) · 3 winners from 4 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

Sire	Dam	Damsire	Sex	Sire's avg winning distance	Damsire's avg winning distance
Kalanisi (IRE)	The Vicars Lady (IRE)	Old Vic (GB)	mare	Flat 11.8f · NH 2m3½f	Flat 11.3f · NH 2m4f

Kalanisi (IRE)

Sire: Kalanisi (IRE)
Dam: The Vicars Lady (IRE)
Damsire: Old Vic (GB)
Sex: mare
Sire's avg winning distance: Flat 11.8f · NH 2m3½f
Damsire's avg winning distance: Flat 11.3f · NH 2m4f

Progeny of Kalanisi (IRE) in this horse's best conditions

Condition	Runs	Wins	Placed	Win %	Place %	This horse runs
All National Hunt runs	5,791	595	1,515	10.3%	26.2%	1
At 2m2f to 2m5f	2,003	197	498	9.8%	24.9%	1
On Good going	2,227	225	585	10.1%	26.3%	1
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Good going	821	74	203	9.0%	24.7%	1

All National Hunt runs

Condition: All National Hunt runs
Runs: 5,791
Wins: 595
Placed: 1,515
Win %: 10.3%
Place %: 26.2%
This horse runs: 1
This horse wins: 0

At 2m2f to 2m5f

Condition: At 2m2f to 2m5f
Runs: 2,003
Wins: 197
Placed: 498
Win %: 9.8%
Place %: 24.9%
This horse runs: 1
This horse wins: 0

On Good going

Condition: On Good going
Runs: 2,227
Wins: 225
Placed: 585
Win %: 10.1%
Place %: 26.3%
This horse runs: 1
This horse wins: 0

At 2m2f to 2m5f on Good going

Condition: At 2m2f to 2m5f on Good going
Runs: 821
Wins: 74
Placed: 203
Win %: 9.0%
Place %: 24.7%
This horse runs: 1
This horse wins: 0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Kalanisi (IRE) × Old Vic mares (the cross)

Code	Runners	Winners	Winners %	Black-type winners	Runs	Wins	2nd/3rd	Win %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt	33	15	45.5%	3	363	51	82	14.0%	£802,133	€248,177
Flat	2	1	50.0%	0	27	5	6	18.5%	£43,206	€232
All runs	33	15	45.5%	3	390	56	88	14.4%	£845,339	€248,409

National Hunt

Code: National Hunt
Runners: 33
Winners: 15
Winners %: 45.5%
Black-type winners: 3
Runs: 363
Wins: 51
2nd/3rd: 82
Win %: 14.0%
Prize GB (£): £802,133
Prize IRE (€): €248,177

Flat

Code: Flat
Runners: 2
Winners: 1
Winners %: 50.0%
Black-type winners: 0
Runs: 27
Wins: 5
2nd/3rd: 6
Win %: 18.5%
Prize GB (£): £43,206
Prize IRE (€): €232

All runs

Code: All runs
Runners: 33
Winners: 15
Winners %: 45.5%
Black-type winners: 3
Runs: 390
Wins: 56
2nd/3rd: 88
Win %: 14.4%
Prize GB (£): £845,339
Prize IRE (€): €248,409

All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.

Best of the cross

Horse	Runs	Wins	Black-type wins	Best win	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
Kalashnikov (IRE)	22	7	2	Group/Grade 1	£284,327	€0
Brain Power (IRE)	22	7	3	Group/Grade 2	£257,452	€14,000
Kalane (IRE)	13	5	2	Listed	£82,046	€9,000
Black Kalanisi (IRE)	41	9	0	-	£70,535	€0
Honest Vic (IRE)	27	5	0	-	£80,083	€0
Regina Dracones (IRE)	32	5	0	-	£0	€60,643
Max Flamingo (IRE)	28	4	0	-	£0	€54,510
Hell Hound (IRE)	8	3	0	-	£16,489	€0
Allez Kal (IRE)	35	3	0	-	£0	€49,900
Holy Motivation (IRE)	22	2	0	-	£13,220	€5,695
Grange Ranger (IRE)	23	2	0	-	£18,761	€0
What A Lark (IRE)	1	1	0	-	£1,949	€0

Kalashnikov (IRE)

Horse: Kalashnikov (IRE)
Runs: 22
Wins: 7
Black-type wins: 2
Best win: Group/Grade 1
Prize GB (£): £284,327
Prize IRE (€): €0

Brain Power (IRE)

Horse: Brain Power (IRE)
Runs: 22
Wins: 7
Black-type wins: 3
Best win: Group/Grade 2
Prize GB (£): £257,452
Prize IRE (€): €14,000

Kalane (IRE)

Horse: Kalane (IRE)
Runs: 13
Wins: 5
Black-type wins: 2
Best win: Listed
Prize GB (£): £82,046
Prize IRE (€): €9,000

Black Kalanisi (IRE)

Horse: Black Kalanisi (IRE)
Runs: 41
Wins: 9
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £70,535
Prize IRE (€): €0

Honest Vic (IRE)

Horse: Honest Vic (IRE)
Runs: 27
Wins: 5
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £80,083
Prize IRE (€): €0

Regina Dracones (IRE)

Horse: Regina Dracones (IRE)
Runs: 32
Wins: 5
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €60,643

Max Flamingo (IRE)

Horse: Max Flamingo (IRE)
Runs: 28
Wins: 4
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €54,510

Hell Hound (IRE)

Horse: Hell Hound (IRE)
Runs: 8
Wins: 3
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £16,489
Prize IRE (€): €0

Allez Kal (IRE)

Horse: Allez Kal (IRE)
Runs: 35
Wins: 3
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €49,900

Holy Motivation (IRE)

Horse: Holy Motivation (IRE)
Runs: 22
Wins: 2
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £13,220
Prize IRE (€): €5,695

Grange Ranger (IRE)

Horse: Grange Ranger (IRE)
Runs: 23
Wins: 2
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £18,761
Prize IRE (€): €0

What A Lark (IRE)

Horse: What A Lark (IRE)
Runs: 1
Wins: 1
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £1,949
Prize IRE (€): €0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Family

Dam summary

The Vicars Lady (IRE)

G1 winners: 0
Produce: 1 winners from 4 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Kalanisi (IRE) out of The Vicars Lady (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

Female line

1The Vicars Lady (IRE) · by Old Vic (GB)
2Carmen Lady (IRE)

Notable relatives

Uncle (out of 2nd dam)

Vic Venturi (IRE)8W · 50R · 5 black-type

View full Carmen Lady family

In brief

When was Thereorthereabouts foaled?

Thereorthereabouts (IRE) was foaled in 2008.

Who are the sire and dam of Thereorthereabouts?

Thereorthereabouts (IRE) is by Kalanisi (IRE) out of The Vicars Lady (IRE), a daughter of Old Vic (GB).

Who trained Thereorthereabouts?

Thereorthereabouts (IRE) was trained by Donald McCain and owned by Paul & Clare Rooney at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Thereorthereabouts' race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Thereorthereabouts (IRE) ran 1 time without winning.

Is Thereorthereabouts still racing?

Thereorthereabouts (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 22 July 2014 at Southwell in the Ladbrokes Mares' Novices' Hurdle, finishing 3rd of 6, and has not run there since.

Is Thereorthereabouts related to any top horses?

Thereorthereabouts (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Vic Venturi (IRE) (uncle, Grade 2 winner), from the Carmen Lady (IRE) family.

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Updated 2014-07-22

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Thereorthereabouts

Form

Race record

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

Trainer changes

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

Pedigree

Pedigree

Parent · 1

Grandparents · 2

Great-grandparents · 4

Parent · 1

Grandparents · 2

Great-grandparents · 4

Breeding card

Female line

Sire, dam and damsire

Progeny of Kalanisi (IRE) in this horse's best conditions

Kalanisi (IRE) × Old Vic mares (the cross)

Best of the cross

Family

Dam summary

Full siblings

Half siblings

By Spadoun (FR)

By Getaway (GER)

By Lauro (GER)

Female line

Notable relatives

Uncle (out of 2nd dam)

In brief

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