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Horse profile

Probably Sorry

Osorio (GER) × Twist The Facts (IRE) (Un Desperado (FR))
Sex
gelding
Foaled
2009
Record (GB & IRE)
1 win from 3 runs (33%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£2,132 GB
Last run (GB & IRE)
9 Jul 2014, Worcester (1/9)
Recent form
421

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
9 Jul 14Worcester1/9100/30won ½Dougie CostelloTony CoylePP Electrical Systems Standard Open National Hunt Flat RaceClass 6NH Flat2mGood to Firm11-0Arctic Chief (GB)£1,560191/7
20 Jun 14Market Rasen2/910/15Dougie CostelloTony CoyleGIS/Westfields' Standard Open National Hunt Flat RaceClass 6NH Flat2m½fGood11-2Southfield Royale (GB)£1,560421/8
9 May 14Market Rasen4/814/15Dougie CostelloTony CoyleRacing UK iPad App Standard Open National Hunt Flat RaceClass 6NH Flat2m½fGood11-2Knight Bachelor (GB)£1,560-0/6
  • 1/99 Jul 14 · Worcester100/30

    PP Electrical Systems Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race

    Class 62mGood to Firm

    All fields
    Date
    9 Jul 14
    Course
    Worcester
    Pos
    1/9
    SP
    100/30
    Btn
    won ½
    Trainer
    Tony Coyle
    Race
    PP Electrical Systems Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
    Class
    Class 6
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Good to Firm
    Wgt
    11-0
    Winner / 2nd
    Arctic Chief (GB)
    Winner prize
    £1,560
    Days
    19
    Future form
    1/7
  • 2/920 Jun 14 · Market Rasen10/1

    GIS/Westfields' Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race

    Class 62m½fGood

    All fields
    Date
    20 Jun 14
    Pos
    2/9
    SP
    10/1
    Btn
    5
    Trainer
    Tony Coyle
    Race
    GIS/Westfields' Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
    Class
    Class 6
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m½f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    11-2
    Winner prize
    £1,560
    Days
    42
    Future form
    1/8
  • 4/89 May 14 · Market Rasen14/1

    Racing UK iPad App Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race

    Class 62m½fGood

    All fields
    Date
    9 May 14
    Pos
    4/8
    SP
    14/1
    Btn
    5
    Trainer
    Tony Coyle
    Race
    Racing UK iPad App Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
    Class
    Class 6
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m½f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    11-2
    Winner prize
    £1,560
    Days
    -
    Future form
    0/6

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
9 Jul 14WorcesterPP Electrical Systems Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race1/9Minnie Milan (IRE)320 Jul 14Stratford102 Touch FM Mares' Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
20 Jun 14Market RasenGIS/Westfields' Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race2/9Southfield Royale (GB)126 Nov 14FontwellFree Tips At raceclear.co.uk Novices' Hurdle
  • 1/99 Jul 14 · Worcester

    PP Electrical Systems Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race

    All fields
    Date
    9 Jul 14
    Course
    Worcester
    Race
    PP Electrical Systems Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
    This horse
    1/9
    Winner next time
    Minnie Milan (IRE)
    Their pos
    3
    Won on
    20 Jul 14
    Race won
    102 Touch FM Mares' Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
  • 2/920 Jun 14 · Market Rasen

    GIS/Westfields' Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race

    All fields
    Date
    20 Jun 14
    Race
    GIS/Westfields' Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
    This horse
    2/9
    Winner next time
    Southfield Royale (GB)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    26 Nov 14
    Race won
    Free Tips At raceclear.co.uk Novices' Hurdle

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Tony Coyle9 May 149 Jul 144/8311033.3%66.7%£2,132€0
Tony Coyle
Trainer
Tony Coyle
First run
9 May 14
Last run
9 Jul 14
First run for yard
4/8
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
33.3%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£2,132
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)First runLast run
National Hunt311033.3%66.7%£2,132€09 May 149 Jul 14
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
33.3%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£2,132
Prize IRE (€)
€0
First run
9 May 14
Last run
9 Jul 14

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
NH Flat311033.3%66.7%£2,132€0
NH Flat
Race type
NH Flat
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
33.3%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£2,132
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Good to Firm1100100.0%100.0%£1,560€0
Good20100.0%50.0%£572€0
Good to Firm
Going
Good to Firm
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,560
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good
Going
Good
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£572
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
2m to 2m1f311033.3%66.7%£2,132€0
2m to 2m1f
Distance
2m to 2m1f
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
33.3%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£2,132
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Market Rasen20100.0%50.0%£572€0
Worcester1100100.0%100.0%£1,560€0
Market Rasen
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£572
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Worcester
Course
Worcester
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,560
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Class 6311033.3%66.7%£2,132€0
Class 6
Class
Class 6
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
33.3%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£2,132
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
9 to 12 runners211050.0%100.0%£2,017€0
6 to 8 runners10000.0%0.0%£114€0
9 to 12 runners
Runners
9 to 12 runners
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,017
Prize IRE (€)
€0
6 to 8 runners
Runners
6 to 8 runners
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£114
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
May10000.0%0.0%£114€0
June10100.0%100.0%£458€0
July1100100.0%100.0%£1,560€0
May
Month
May
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£114
Prize IRE (€)
€0
June
Month
June
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£458
Prize IRE (€)
€0
July
Month
July
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,560
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Dougie Costello311033.3%66.7%£2,132€0
Dougie Costello
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
33.3%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£2,132
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Tony Coyle311033.3%66.7%£2,132€0
Tony Coyle
Trainer
Tony Coyle
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
33.3%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£2,132
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear311033.3%66.7%£2,132€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
33.3%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£2,132
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10000.0%0.0%£114€0
15 to 30 days1100100.0%100.0%£1,560€0
31 to 60 days10100.0%100.0%£458€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£114
Prize IRE (€)
€0
15 to 30 days
Days since last run
15 to 30 days
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,560
Prize IRE (€)
€0
31 to 60 days
Days since last run
31 to 60 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£458
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchOsorio (GER)

Parent · 1

  1. SireOsorio (GER)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireSurumu (GER)
  2. Sire's damOcotal (GB)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchTwist The Facts (IRE)

Parent · 1

  1. DamTwist The Facts (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireUn Desperado (FR)
  2. Dam's damThree In A Twist (IRE)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Osorio (GER)
Twist The Facts (IRE)
Surumu (GER)
Ocotal (GB)
Un Desperado (FR)
Three In A Twist (IRE)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseProbably Sorry (GB)
Sexgelding
Foaled2009
SireOsorio (GER)
DamTwist The Facts (IRE)
DamsireUn Desperado (FR)
Sire's sireSurumu (GER)
Sire's damOcotal (GB)
2nd damThree In A Twist (IRE)
Dam's produce1 winners from 2 runners
Notable siblingBobonyx (GB)

Female line

  1. Twist The Facts (IRE) · by Un Desperado (FR) · 1 winners from 2 runners
  2. Three In A Twist (IRE) · 2 winners from 5 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Osorio (GER)Twist The Facts (IRE)Un Desperado (FR)geldingFlat 10.0f · NH 2m3fFlat 14.4f · NH 2m4f
Osorio (GER)
Sex
gelding
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 10.0f · NH 2m3f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 14.4f · NH 2m4f

Progeny of Osorio (GER) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs7792211.7%28.6%31
At 2m to 2m1f28287.1%28.6%31
On Good to firm or firmer going113627.3%54.5%11
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to firm or firmer going71314.3%42.9%11
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
77
Wins
9
Placed
22
Win %
11.7%
Place %
28.6%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
1
At 2m to 2m1f
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f
Runs
28
Wins
2
Placed
8
Win %
7.1%
Place %
28.6%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
1
On Good to firm or firmer going
Condition
On Good to firm or firmer going
Runs
11
Wins
3
Placed
6
Win %
27.3%
Place %
54.5%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
1
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to firm or firmer going
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to firm or firmer going
Runs
7
Wins
1
Placed
3
Win %
14.3%
Place %
42.9%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
1

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Osorio (GER) × Un Desperado mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt11100.0%031133.3%£2,132€0
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
1
Winners
1
Winners %
100.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd/3rd
1
Win %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£2,132
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Probably Sorry (GB)310£2,132€0
Probably Sorry (GB)
Runs
3
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£2,132
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Family

Dam summary

Twist The Facts (IRE)

G1 winners
0
Produce
1 winners from 2 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Osorio (GER) out of Twist The Facts (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Phoenix Reach (IRE)

Female line

  1. 1Twist The Facts (IRE) · by Un Desperado (FR)
  2. 2Three In A Twist (IRE)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

View full Three In A Twist family

In brief

When was Probably Sorry foaled?

Probably Sorry (GB) was foaled in 2009.

Who are the sire and dam of Probably Sorry?

Probably Sorry (GB) is by Osorio (GER) out of Twist The Facts (IRE), a daughter of Un Desperado (FR).

Who trained Probably Sorry?

Probably Sorry (GB) was trained by Tony Coyle and owned by Tony Coyle at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Probably Sorry's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Probably Sorry (GB) won 1 of 3 races (33%).

What is Probably Sorry's biggest win?

Probably Sorry (GB)'s only win in Britain or Ireland came in the PP Electrical Systems Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race at Worcester on 9 July 2014.

Has Probably Sorry ever been beaten?

Probably Sorry (GB) was beaten twice in 3 runs in Britain and Ireland, the first time on 9 May 2014 at Market Rasen (4th of 8).

Is Probably Sorry still racing?

Probably Sorry (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 9 July 2014 at Worcester in the PP Electrical Systems Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race, finishing 1st of 9, and has not run there since.

What is Probably Sorry's record at Market Rasen?

Probably Sorry (GB) ran most often at Market Rasen, with no wins from 2 runs there.

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