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Horse profile
Optimistic Man
- TrainerRonald Curran
- OwnerRonald Curran
- FamilyLasting Impression I
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 1997
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 17 May 2003, Downpatrick (IRE) (PU/14)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 17 May 03 | Downpatrick (IRE) | PU/14 | 10/1 | - | Miss A Foley | Ronald Curran | Caithness Ladies INH Flat Race | Non-handicap (unclassified) | NH Flat | 2m4½f | Yielding | 11-9 | Shivermetimber (IRE) | €5,520 | 23 | 0/9 |
| 24 Apr 03 | Tipperary (IRE) | 17/18 | 14/1 | dist | Mr R J Curran | Ronald Curran | Monard I.N.H. Flat Race | Non-handicap (unclassified) | NH Flat | 2m4f | Yielding | 11-7 | Calithyne (IRE) | €6,210 | - | 2/14 |
Caithness Ladies INH Flat Race
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m4½fYielding
All fields
- Date
- 17 May 03
- Course
- Downpatrick (IRE)
- Pos
- PU/14
- SP
- 10/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Miss A Foley
- Trainer
- Ronald Curran
- Race
- Caithness Ladies INH Flat Race
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m4½f
- Going
- Yielding
- Wgt
- 11-9
- Winner / 2nd
- Shivermetimber (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €5,520
- Days
- 23
- Future form
- 0/9
Monard I.N.H. Flat Race
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m4fYielding
All fields
- Date
- 24 Apr 03
- Course
- Tipperary (IRE)
- Pos
- 17/18
- SP
- 14/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Mr R J Curran
- Trainer
- Ronald Curran
- Race
- Monard I.N.H. Flat Race
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m4f
- Going
- Yielding
- Wgt
- 11-7
- Winner / 2nd
- Calithyne (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €6,210
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 2/14
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 24 Apr 03 | Tipperary (IRE) | Monard I.N.H. Flat Race | 17/18 | The Guarantor (IRE) | 2 | 24 Jun 03 | Tipperary (IRE) | Piarie Edwards Memorial Tipperary Veterinary Surgeons I.N.H. Flat Race |
| 24 Apr 03 | Tipperary (IRE) | Monard I.N.H. Flat Race | 17/18 | Pearly Jack (GB) | 4 | 3 May 03 | Punchestown (IRE) | Dunlavin I.N.H. Flat Race (Div I) |
- 17/1824 Apr 03 · Tipperary (IRE)
Monard I.N.H. Flat Race
All fields
- Date
- 24 Apr 03
- Course
- Tipperary (IRE)
- Race
- Monard I.N.H. Flat Race
- This horse
- 17/18
- Winner next time
- The Guarantor (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 24 Jun 03
- Race won
- Piarie Edwards Memorial Tipperary Veterinary Surgeons I.N.H. Flat Race
- 17/1824 Apr 03 · Tipperary (IRE)
Monard I.N.H. Flat Race
All fields
- Date
- 24 Apr 03
- Course
- Tipperary (IRE)
- Race
- Monard I.N.H. Flat Race
- This horse
- 17/18
- Winner next time
- Pearly Jack (GB)
- Their pos
- 4
- Won on
- 3 May 03
- Race won
- Dunlavin I.N.H. Flat Race (Div I)
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ronald Curran | 24 Apr 03 | 17 May 03 | 17/18 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Ronald Curran
- Trainer
- Ronald Curran
- First run
- 24 Apr 03
- Last run
- 17 May 03
- First run for yard
- 17/18
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 24 Apr 03 | 17 May 03 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 24 Apr 03
- Last run
- 17 May 03
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchPhardante (FR)
Parent · 1
- SirePhardante (FR)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchGolden AmbitionI (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireTorus (GB)
- Dam's damLasting Impression I (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Golden AmbitionI (IRE) · by Torus (GB) · 2 winners from 4 runners
- Lasting Impression I (GB) · 3 winners from 5 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Phardante (FR) | Golden AmbitionI (IRE) | Torus (GB) | gelding | Flat 12.6f · NH 2m3½f | Flat 7.8f · NH 2m3½f |
Phardante (FR)
- Sire
- Phardante (FR)
- Damsire
- Torus (GB)
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 12.6f · NH 2m3½f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 7.8f · NH 2m3½f
Progeny of Phardante (FR) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 10,132 | 901 | 2,567 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 2m2f to 2m5f | 3,604 | 343 | 904 | 2 | 0 | ||
| On Good to soft or yielding going | 2,082 | 137 | 478 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 2m2f to 2m5f on Good to soft or yielding going | 733 | 51 | 158 | 2 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 10,132
- Wins
- 901
- Placed
- 2,567
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m2f to 2m5f
- Condition
- At 2m2f to 2m5f
- Runs
- 3,604
- Wins
- 343
- Placed
- 904
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good to soft or yielding going
- Condition
- On Good to soft or yielding going
- Runs
- 2,082
- Wins
- 137
- Placed
- 478
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Good to soft or yielding going
- Condition
- At 2m2f to 2m5f on Good to soft or yielding going
- Runs
- 733
- Wins
- 51
- Placed
- 158
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Phardante (FR) × Torus mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 6 | 2 | 0 | 59 | 2 | 11 | £5,987 | €1,150 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 6
- Winners
- 2
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 59
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd/3rd
- 11
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,987
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,150
All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Barton Baron (IRE) | 11 | 1 | 0 | £5,987 | €0 |
| Pharalley (IRE) | 19 | 1 | 0 | - | - |
| Optimistic Man (IRE) | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
| Saxa (IRE) | 6 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
| Comehomeagainsam (IRE) | 7 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €1,150 |
| Spindante (IRE) | 14 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Barton Baron (IRE)
- Horse
- Barton Baron (IRE)
- Runs
- 11
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,987
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pharalley (IRE)
- Horse
- Pharalley (IRE)
- Runs
- 19
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
Optimistic Man (IRE)
- Horse
- Optimistic Man (IRE)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Saxa (IRE)
- Horse
- Saxa (IRE)
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Comehomeagainsam (IRE)
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,150
Spindante (IRE)
- Horse
- Spindante (IRE)
- Runs
- 14
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 2 winners from 4 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Phardante (FR) out of Golden AmbitionI (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Good Thyne (USA)
- Soltero (IRE)4W · 16R
By Old Vic (GB)
- Liscooney (IRE)4W · 32R
By Pilsudski (IRE)
- Goldski (IRE)0W · 5R
Female line
- 1Golden AmbitionI (IRE) · by Torus (GB)
- 2Lasting Impression I (GB)
Notable relatives
Uncle (out of 2nd dam)
- Steel Dawn (GB)6W · 63R · 1 black-type
In brief
When was Optimistic Man foaled?
Optimistic Man (IRE) was foaled in 1997.
Who are the sire and dam of Optimistic Man?
Optimistic Man (IRE) is by Phardante (FR) out of Golden AmbitionI (IRE), a daughter of Torus (GB).
Who trained Optimistic Man?
Optimistic Man (IRE) was trained by Ronald Curran and owned by Ronald Curran at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Optimistic Man's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Optimistic Man (IRE) ran 2 times without winning.
Is Optimistic Man still racing?
Optimistic Man (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 17 May 2003 at Downpatrick (IRE) in the Caithness Ladies INH Flat Race (result: pulled up, 14 ran), and has not run there since.
Is Optimistic Man related to any top horses?
Optimistic Man (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Steel Dawn (GB) (uncle, Listed winner), from the Lasting Impression I (GB) family.
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