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Horse profile

Optimistic Man

Sex
gelding
Foaled
1997
Record (GB & IRE)
0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£0
Last run (GB & IRE)
17 May 2003, Downpatrick (IRE) (PU/14)
Last win (GB & IRE)
Never won
Recent form
17PU

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
17 May 03Downpatrick (IRE)PU/1410/1-Miss A FoleyRonald CurranCaithness Ladies INH Flat RaceNon-handicap (unclassified)NH Flat2m4½fYielding11-9Shivermetimber (IRE)€5,520230/9
24 Apr 03Tipperary (IRE)17/1814/1distMr R J CurranRonald CurranMonard I.N.H. Flat RaceNon-handicap (unclassified)NH Flat2m4fYielding11-7Calithyne (IRE)€6,210-2/14
  • PU/1417 May 03 · Downpatrick (IRE)10/1

    Caithness Ladies INH Flat Race

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m4½fYielding

    All fields
    Date
    17 May 03
    Pos
    PU/14
    SP
    10/1
    Btn
    -
    Race
    Caithness Ladies INH Flat Race
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m4½f
    Going
    Yielding
    Wgt
    11-9
    Winner prize
    €5,520
    Days
    23
    Future form
    0/9
  • 17/1824 Apr 03 · Tipperary (IRE)14/1

    Monard I.N.H. Flat Race

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m4fYielding

    All fields
    Date
    24 Apr 03
    Pos
    17/18
    SP
    14/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Monard I.N.H. Flat Race
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Yielding
    Wgt
    11-7
    Winner / 2nd
    Calithyne (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €6,210
    Days
    -
    Future form
    2/14

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
24 Apr 03Tipperary (IRE)Monard I.N.H. Flat Race17/18The Guarantor (IRE)224 Jun 03Tipperary (IRE)Piarie Edwards Memorial Tipperary Veterinary Surgeons I.N.H. Flat Race
24 Apr 03Tipperary (IRE)Monard I.N.H. Flat Race17/18Pearly Jack (GB)43 May 03Punchestown (IRE)Dunlavin I.N.H. Flat Race (Div I)

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Ronald Curran24 Apr 0317 May 0317/1820000.0%0.0%£0€0
Ronald Curran
First run
24 Apr 03
Last run
17 May 03
First run for yard
17/18
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)First runLast run
National Hunt20000.0%0.0%£0€024 Apr 0317 May 03
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
First run
24 Apr 03
Last run
17 May 03

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchPhardante (FR)

Parent · 1

  1. SirePhardante (FR)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchGolden AmbitionI (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireTorus (GB)
  2. Dam's damLasting Impression I (GB)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Not traced
Not traced
Lasting Impression I (GB)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseOptimistic Man (IRE)
Sexgelding
Foaled1997
SirePhardante (FR)
DamGolden AmbitionI (IRE)
DamsireTorus (GB)
2nd damLasting Impression I (GB)
Dam's produce2 winners from 4 runners
Notable siblingSoltero (IRE)

Female line

  1. Golden AmbitionI (IRE) · by Torus (GB) · 2 winners from 4 runners
  2. Lasting Impression I (GB) · 3 winners from 5 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Phardante (FR)Golden AmbitionI (IRE)Torus (GB)geldingFlat 12.6f · NH 2m3½fFlat 7.8f · NH 2m3½f
Phardante (FR)
Damsire
Torus (GB)
Sex
gelding
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 12.6f · NH 2m3½f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 7.8f · NH 2m3½f

Progeny of Phardante (FR) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs10,1329012,5678.9%25.3%20
At 2m2f to 2m5f3,6043439049.5%25.1%20
On Good to soft or yielding going2,0821374786.6%23.0%20
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Good to soft or yielding going733511587.0%21.6%20
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
10,132
Wins
901
Placed
2,567
Win %
8.9%
Place %
25.3%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
At 2m2f to 2m5f
Condition
At 2m2f to 2m5f
Runs
3,604
Wins
343
Placed
904
Win %
9.5%
Place %
25.1%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
On Good to soft or yielding going
Condition
On Good to soft or yielding going
Runs
2,082
Wins
137
Placed
478
Win %
6.6%
Place %
23.0%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Good to soft or yielding going
Condition
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Good to soft or yielding going
Runs
733
Wins
51
Placed
158
Win %
7.0%
Place %
21.6%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Phardante (FR) × Torus mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt6233.3%0592113.4%£5,987€1,150
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
6
Winners
2
Winners %
33.3%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
59
Wins
2
2nd/3rd
11
Win %
3.4%
Prize GB (£)
£5,987
Prize IRE (€)
€1,150

All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Barton Baron (IRE)1110£5,987€0
Pharalley (IRE)1910--
Optimistic Man (IRE)200£0€0
Saxa (IRE)600£0€0
Comehomeagainsam (IRE)700£0€1,150
Spindante (IRE)1400£0€0
Barton Baron (IRE)
Runs
11
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£5,987
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Pharalley (IRE)
Runs
19
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Optimistic Man (IRE)
Runs
2
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Saxa (IRE)
Runs
6
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Comehomeagainsam (IRE)
Runs
7
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€1,150
Spindante (IRE)
Runs
14
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Family

Dam summary

Golden AmbitionI (IRE)

G1 winners
0
Produce
2 winners from 4 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Phardante (FR) out of Golden AmbitionI (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Good Thyne (USA)

By Old Vic (GB)

By Pilsudski (IRE)

Female line

  1. 1Golden AmbitionI (IRE) · by Torus (GB)
  2. 2Lasting Impression I (GB)

Notable relatives

Uncle (out of 2nd dam)

View full Lasting Impression I family

In brief

When was Optimistic Man foaled?

Optimistic Man (IRE) was foaled in 1997.

Who are the sire and dam of Optimistic Man?

Optimistic Man (IRE) is by Phardante (FR) out of Golden AmbitionI (IRE), a daughter of Torus (GB).

Who trained Optimistic Man?

Optimistic Man (IRE) was trained by Ronald Curran and owned by Ronald Curran at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Optimistic Man's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Optimistic Man (IRE) ran 2 times without winning.

Is Optimistic Man still racing?

Optimistic Man (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 17 May 2003 at Downpatrick (IRE) in the Caithness Ladies INH Flat Race (result: pulled up, 14 ran), and has not run there since.

Is Optimistic Man related to any top horses?

Optimistic Man (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Steel Dawn (GB) (uncle, Listed winner), from the Lasting Impression I (GB) family.

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