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Horse profile

Never The Reason

Sex
gelding
Foaled
1991
Record (GB & IRE)
0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£0
Last run (GB & IRE)
25 Nov 1995, Punchestown (IRE) (21/23)
Last win (GB & IRE)
Never won
Recent form
821

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtWinner / 2ndDaysFuture form
25 Nov 95Punchestown (IRE)21/2312/18Mr M A CahillM F MorrisHatfield I.N.H. Flat RaceNon-handicap (unclassified)NH Flat2mYielding11-2Noble Shoon (IRE)2262/22
13 Apr 95Thurles (IRE)8/2010/18¾Mr J A NashM F MorrisKillenaule I.N.H. Flat RaceNon-handicap (unclassified)NH Flat2mGood11-3Aut Even I (IRE)-1/16
  • 21/2325 Nov 95 · Punchestown (IRE)12/1

    Hatfield I.N.H. Flat Race

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2mYielding

    All fields
    Date
    25 Nov 95
    Pos
    21/23
    SP
    12/1
    Btn
    8
    Trainer
    M F Morris
    Race
    Hatfield I.N.H. Flat Race
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Yielding
    Wgt
    11-2
    Winner / 2nd
    Noble Shoon (IRE)
    Days
    226
    Future form
    2/22
  • 8/2013 Apr 95 · Thurles (IRE)10/1

    Killenaule I.N.H. Flat Race

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2mGood

    All fields
    Date
    13 Apr 95
    Pos
    8/20
    SP
    10/1
    Btn
    8¾
    Trainer
    M F Morris
    Race
    Killenaule I.N.H. Flat Race
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    11-3
    Winner / 2nd
    Aut Even I (IRE)
    Days
    -
    Future form
    1/16

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
25 Nov 95Punchestown (IRE)Hatfield I.N.H. Flat Race21/23Dook's Delight (IRE)410 Dec 95Thurles (IRE)Carey Bros Glass Worktop Saver Flat Race
25 Nov 95Punchestown (IRE)Hatfield I.N.H. Flat Race21/23Phardubh (IRE)55 Jun 96Navan (IRE)Green And Gold I.N.H. Flat Race
13 Apr 95Thurles (IRE)Killenaule I.N.H. Flat Race8/20The Hearty Lady (IRE)1217 Jul 95Killarney (IRE)Roger Jones Golf Associates INH Flat Race

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
M F Morris13 Apr 9525 Nov 958/2020000.0%0.0%£0€0
M F Morris
Trainer
M F Morris
First run
13 Apr 95
Last run
25 Nov 95
First run for yard
8/20
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)First runLast run
National Hunt20000.0%0.0%£0€013 Apr 9525 Nov 95
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
First run
13 Apr 95
Last run
25 Nov 95

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchStrong Gale (IRE)

Parent · 1

  1. SireStrong Gale (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchBargara (GB)

Parent · 1

  1. DamBargara (GB)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireBargello (GB)
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
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Breeding card

HorseNever The Reason (IRE)
Sexgelding
Foaled1991
SireStrong Gale (IRE)
DamBargara (GB)
DamsireBargello (GB)
Dam's produce3 winners from 8 runners
Notable siblingCahervillahow (GB)

Female line

  1. Bargara (GB) · 3 winners from 8 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Strong Gale (IRE)Bargara (GB)Bargello (GB)geldingFlat 14.4f · NH 2m4½fFlat 15.8f · NH 2m5f
Strong Gale (IRE)
Sex
gelding
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 14.4f · NH 2m4½f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 15.8f · NH 2m5f

Progeny of Strong Gale (IRE) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs14,6801,8604,29612.7%29.3%20
At 2m to 2m1f4,7495131,27610.8%26.9%20
On Good to soft or yielding going2,89531477210.8%26.7%10
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going999952449.5%24.4%10
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
14,680
Wins
1,860
Placed
4,296
Win %
12.7%
Place %
29.3%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f
Runs
4,749
Wins
513
Placed
1,276
Win %
10.8%
Place %
26.9%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
On Good to soft or yielding going
Condition
On Good to soft or yielding going
Runs
2,895
Wins
314
Placed
772
Win %
10.8%
Place %
26.7%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
Runs
999
Wins
95
Placed
244
Win %
9.5%
Place %
24.4%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Strong Gale (IRE) × Bargello mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt15533.3%118118419.9%£41,488€0
Flat2150.0%094244.4%--
All runs15640.0%1190224311.6%£41,488€0
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
15
Winners
5
Winners %
33.3%
Black-type winners
1
Runs
181
Wins
18
2nd/3rd
41
Win %
9.9%
Prize GB (£)
£41,488
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Flat
Code
Flat
Runners
2
Winners
1
Winners %
50.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
9
Wins
4
2nd/3rd
2
Win %
44.4%
All runs
Code
All runs
Runners
15
Winners
6
Winners %
40.0%
Black-type winners
1
Runs
190
Wins
22
2nd/3rd
43
Win %
11.6%
Prize GB (£)
£41,488
Prize IRE (€)
€0

All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsBest winPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Macallister (IRE)3841Group/Grade 3--
Easton Gale (GB)1960-£33,860€0
Andrea Cova (IRE)3550---
Grangemills (GB)1340---
Stormy Dreams (GB)820-£6,181€0
Dun Oengus (IRE)2310---
Saville Beg (GB)200-£0€0
Never The Reason (IRE)200-£0€0
Louis The Lip (GB)300-£0€0
Morgans Hill (IRE)300-£0€0
Sarah's Shoes (IRE)500-£0€0
Hurricane Linda (GB)600-£727€0
Macallister (IRE)
Runs
38
Wins
4
Black-type wins
1
Best win
Group/Grade 3
Easton Gale (GB)
Runs
19
Wins
6
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£33,860
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Andrea Cova (IRE)
Runs
35
Wins
5
Black-type wins
0
Grangemills (GB)
Runs
13
Wins
4
Black-type wins
0
Stormy Dreams (GB)
Runs
8
Wins
2
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£6,181
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Dun Oengus (IRE)
Runs
23
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Saville Beg (GB)
Runs
2
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Never The Reason (IRE)
Runs
2
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Louis The Lip (GB)
Runs
3
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Morgans Hill (IRE)
Runs
3
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Sarah's Shoes (IRE)
Runs
5
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Hurricane Linda (GB)
Runs
6
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£727
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Family

Dam summary

Bargara (GB)

G1 winners
0
Produce
3 winners from 8 runners

Full siblings

Half siblings

By Deep Run (GB)

By Le Moss (IRE)

By Brush Aside (USA)

By Phardante (FR)

Female line

  1. 1Bargara (GB)

Notable relatives

Half-brother

In brief

When was Never The Reason foaled?

Never The Reason (IRE) was foaled in 1991.

Who are the sire and dam of Never The Reason?

Never The Reason (IRE) is by Strong Gale (IRE) out of Bargara (GB), a daughter of Bargello (GB).

Who trained Never The Reason?

Never The Reason (IRE) was trained by M F Morris and owned by Mrs Miles Valentine at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Never The Reason's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Never The Reason (IRE) ran 2 times without winning.

Is Never The Reason still racing?

Never The Reason (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 25 November 1995 at Punchestown (IRE) in the Hatfield I.N.H. Flat Race, finishing 21st of 23, and has not run there since.

Is Never The Reason related to any top horses?

Never The Reason (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Cahervillahow (GB) (half-brother, Listed winner), from the Bargara (GB) family.

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