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Horse profile
Never Say Never
- TrainerGeoff Oldroyd
- OwnerBond Thoroughbred
- FamilyTouraya
- Sex
- mare
- Foaled
- 2018
- Colour
- bay
- Highest OR
- 70
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 6 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £3,499 GB
- Last official rating
- 68 (Flat)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 8 Oct 2021, Newcastle (AW) (12/14)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8 Oct 21 | Newcastle (AW) | 12/14 | 16/1 | 5½ | Barry McHugh | Geoff Oldroyd | Free Replays On attheraces.com Handicap | Class 5 | Flat AW | 5f | Standard | 9-5 | 68 | Glorious Rio (IRE) | £3,240 | 16 | 0/11 |
| 22 Sep 21 | Redcar | 3/16 | 28/1 | ¾ | Tom Eaves | Geoff Oldroyd | Watch Race Replays At racingtv.com Handicap | Class 5 | Flat Turf | 5f | Good | 9-6 | 67 | High Security (GB) | £3,132 | 75 | 3/14 |
| 9 Jul 21 | York | 15/15 | 28/1 | 11¼ | Tom Eaves | Geoff Oldroyd | Longines Irish Champions Weekend Handicap | Class 4 | Flat Turf | 5f | Good | 8-8 | 70 | James Watt (IRE) | £5,400 | 34 | 2/14 |
| 5 Jun 21 | Doncaster | 2/5 | 6/4F | 3¼ | Tom Eaves | Geoff Oldroyd | Visit attheraces.com Novice Stakes | Class 5 | Flat Turf | 5f | Good to Firm | 8-12 | - | Little Muddy (GB) | £3,024 | 37 | 0/3 |
| 29 Apr 21 | Redcar | 2/11 | 33/1 | 2 | Tom Eaves | Geoff Oldroyd | Visit Redcar Car Boot This Sunday Fillies' Novice Stakes | Class 5 | Flat Turf | 6f | Good to Firm | 8-10 | - | Exuding (GB) | £2,862 | 52 | 1/10 |
| 8 Mar 21 | Wolverhampton (AW) | 8/13 | 33/1 | 8¾ | Tom Eaves | Geoff Oldroyd | Play Ladbrokes 5-A-Side On Football Fillies' Novice Stakes | Class 5 | Flat AW | 6f | Standard | 8-11 | - | Rosie Powers (FR) | £3,429 | - | 1/11 |
- 12/148 Oct 21 · Newcastle (AW)16/1
Free Replays On attheraces.com Handicap
Class 55fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 8 Oct 21
- Course
- Newcastle (AW)
- Pos
- 12/14
- SP
- 16/1
- Btn
- 5½
- Jockey
- Barry McHugh
- Trainer
- Geoff Oldroyd
- Race
- Free Replays On attheraces.com Handicap
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 5f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-5
- OR
- 68
- Winner / 2nd
- Glorious Rio (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,240
- Days
- 16
- Future form
- 0/11
Watch Race Replays At racingtv.com Handicap
Class 55fGood
All fields
- Date
- 22 Sep 21
- Course
- Redcar
- Pos
- 3/16
- SP
- 28/1
- Btn
- ¾
- Jockey
- Tom Eaves
- Trainer
- Geoff Oldroyd
- Race
- Watch Race Replays At racingtv.com Handicap
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 5f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 9-6
- OR
- 67
- Winner / 2nd
- High Security (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,132
- Days
- 75
- Future form
- 3/14
Longines Irish Champions Weekend Handicap
Class 45fGood
All fields
- Date
- 9 Jul 21
- Course
- York
- Pos
- 15/15
- SP
- 28/1
- Btn
- 11¼
- Jockey
- Tom Eaves
- Trainer
- Geoff Oldroyd
- Race
- Longines Irish Champions Weekend Handicap
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 5f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 8-8
- OR
- 70
- Winner / 2nd
- James Watt (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £5,400
- Days
- 34
- Future form
- 2/14
Visit attheraces.com Novice Stakes
Class 55fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 5 Jun 21
- Course
- Doncaster
- Pos
- 2/5
- SP
- 6/4F
- Btn
- 3¼
- Jockey
- Tom Eaves
- Trainer
- Geoff Oldroyd
- Race
- Visit attheraces.com Novice Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 5f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 8-12
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Little Muddy (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,024
- Days
- 37
- Future form
- 0/3
Visit Redcar Car Boot This Sunday Fillies' Novice Stakes
Class 56fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 29 Apr 21
- Course
- Redcar
- Pos
- 2/11
- SP
- 33/1
- Btn
- 2
- Jockey
- Tom Eaves
- Trainer
- Geoff Oldroyd
- Race
- Visit Redcar Car Boot This Sunday Fillies' Novice Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 8-10
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Exuding (GB)
- Winner prize
- £2,862
- Days
- 52
- Future form
- 1/10
- 8/138 Mar 21 · Wolverhampton (AW)33/1
Play Ladbrokes 5-A-Side On Football Fillies' Novice Stakes
Class 56fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 8 Mar 21
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Pos
- 8/13
- SP
- 33/1
- Btn
- 8¾
- Jockey
- Tom Eaves
- Trainer
- Geoff Oldroyd
- Race
- Play Ladbrokes 5-A-Side On Football Fillies' Novice Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 8-11
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Rosie Powers (FR)
- Winner prize
- £3,429
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 1/11
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 22 Sep 21 | Redcar | Watch Race Replays At racingtv.com Handicap | 3/16 | Glorious Rio (IRE) | 7 | 8 Oct 21 | Newcastle (AW) | Free Replays On attheraces.com Handicap |
| 22 Sep 21 | Redcar | Watch Race Replays At racingtv.com Handicap | 3/16 | Dapper Man (IRE) | 8 | 4 Oct 21 | Wolverhampton (AW) | Download The At The Races App Handicap |
| 22 Sep 21 | Redcar | Watch Race Replays At racingtv.com Handicap | 3/16 | Buniann (IRE) | 13 | 1 Oct 21 | Newcastle (AW) | Sky Sports Racing HD Virgin 535 Handicap |
| 9 Jul 21 | York | Longines Irish Champions Weekend Handicap | 15/15 | Modular Magic (GB) | 4 | 25 Jul 21 | Musselburgh | Sky Bet Sunday Series Sprint Handicap |
| 9 Jul 21 | York | Longines Irish Champions Weekend Handicap | 15/15 | Militia (GB) | 10 | 21 Jul 21 | Catterick | Sky Bet Go-Racing-In-Yorkshire Summer Festival Handicap |
| 29 Apr 21 | Redcar | Visit Redcar Car Boot This Sunday Fillies' Novice Stakes | 2/11 | Mystify Me (GB) | 5 | 4 Jun 21 | Bath | Free Tips Daily On attheraces.com Maiden Fillies' Stakes |
| 8 Mar 21 | Wolverhampton (AW) | Play Ladbrokes 5-A-Side On Football Fillies' Novice Stakes | 8/13 | Alcazan (GB) | 7 | 26 Mar 21 | Lingfield (AW) | Ladbrokes Watch Racing Online For Free Handicap |
- 3/1622 Sep 21 · Redcar
Watch Race Replays At racingtv.com Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 22 Sep 21
- Course
- Redcar
- Race
- Watch Race Replays At racingtv.com Handicap
- This horse
- 3/16
- Winner next time
- Glorious Rio (IRE)
- Their pos
- 7
- Won on
- 8 Oct 21
- At
- Newcastle (AW)
- Race won
- Free Replays On attheraces.com Handicap
- 3/1622 Sep 21 · Redcar
Watch Race Replays At racingtv.com Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 22 Sep 21
- Course
- Redcar
- Race
- Watch Race Replays At racingtv.com Handicap
- This horse
- 3/16
- Winner next time
- Dapper Man (IRE)
- Their pos
- 8
- Won on
- 4 Oct 21
- At
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Race won
- Download The At The Races App Handicap
- 3/1622 Sep 21 · Redcar
Watch Race Replays At racingtv.com Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 22 Sep 21
- Course
- Redcar
- Race
- Watch Race Replays At racingtv.com Handicap
- This horse
- 3/16
- Winner next time
- Buniann (IRE)
- Their pos
- 13
- Won on
- 1 Oct 21
- At
- Newcastle (AW)
- Race won
- Sky Sports Racing HD Virgin 535 Handicap
- 15/159 Jul 21 · York
Longines Irish Champions Weekend Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 9 Jul 21
- Course
- York
- Race
- Longines Irish Champions Weekend Handicap
- This horse
- 15/15
- Winner next time
- Modular Magic (GB)
- Their pos
- 4
- Won on
- 25 Jul 21
- Race won
- Sky Bet Sunday Series Sprint Handicap
- 15/159 Jul 21 · York
Longines Irish Champions Weekend Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 9 Jul 21
- Course
- York
- Race
- Longines Irish Champions Weekend Handicap
- This horse
- 15/15
- Winner next time
- Militia (GB)
- Their pos
- 10
- Won on
- 21 Jul 21
- Race won
- Sky Bet Go-Racing-In-Yorkshire Summer Festival Handicap
- 2/1129 Apr 21 · Redcar
Visit Redcar Car Boot This Sunday Fillies' Novice Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 29 Apr 21
- Course
- Redcar
- Race
- Visit Redcar Car Boot This Sunday Fillies' Novice Stakes
- This horse
- 2/11
- Winner next time
- Mystify Me (GB)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 4 Jun 21
- At
- Bath
- Race won
- Free Tips Daily On attheraces.com Maiden Fillies' Stakes
- 8/138 Mar 21 · Wolverhampton (AW)
Play Ladbrokes 5-A-Side On Football Fillies' Novice Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 8 Mar 21
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Race
- Play Ladbrokes 5-A-Side On Football Fillies' Novice Stakes
- This horse
- 8/13
- Winner next time
- Alcazan (GB)
- Their pos
- 7
- Won on
- 26 Mar 21
- At
- Lingfield (AW)
- Race won
- Ladbrokes Watch Racing Online For Free Handicap
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Geoff Oldroyd | 8 Mar 21 | 8 Oct 21 | 8/13 | 70 | 68 | 70 | 6 | 0 | 2 | 1 | £3,499 | €0 |
Geoff Oldroyd
- Trainer
- Geoff Oldroyd
- First run
- 8 Mar 21
- Last run
- 8 Oct 21
- First run for yard
- 8/13
- OR first run
- 70
- OR last run
- 68
- Best OR
- 70
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,499
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 6 | 0 | 2 | 1 | £3,499 | €0 | 70 | 8 Mar 21 | 8 Oct 21 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,499
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 70
- First run
- 8 Mar 21
- Last run
- 8 Oct 21
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat Turf | 4 | 0 | 2 | 1 | £3,499 | €0 | ||
| Flat AW | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Flat Turf
- Race type
- Flat Turf
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,499
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat AW
- Race type
- Flat AW
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 2 | 0 | 2 | 0 | £2,763 | €0 | ||
| Good | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £735 | €0 | ||
| Standard | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Good to Firm
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,763
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £735
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Standard
- Going
- Standard
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5f to 6f | 6 | 0 | 2 | 1 | £3,499 | €0 |
5f to 6f
- Distance
- 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,499
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Redcar | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £2,079 | €0 | ||
| Doncaster | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,420 | €0 | ||
| Newcastle (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| York | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Redcar
- Course
- Redcar
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,079
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Doncaster
- Course
- Doncaster
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,420
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Newcastle (AW)
- Course
- Newcastle (AW)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Wolverhampton (AW)
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
York
- Course
- York
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Class 5 | 5 | 0 | 2 | 1 | £3,499 | €0 |
Class 4
- Class
- Class 4
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 5
- Class
- Class 5
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,499
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2 to 5 runners | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,420 | €0 | ||
| 9 to 12 runners | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,344 | €0 | ||
| 13 to 16 runners | 4 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £735 | €0 |
2 to 5 runners
- Runners
- 2 to 5 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,420
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,344
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
13 to 16 runners
- Runners
- 13 to 16 runners
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £735
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| March | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| April | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,344 | €0 | ||
| June | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,420 | €0 | ||
| July | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| September | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £735 | €0 | ||
| October | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
March
- Month
- March
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
April
- Month
- April
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,344
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
June
- Month
- June
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,420
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
July
- Month
- July
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
September
- Month
- September
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £735
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
October
- Month
- October
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tom Eaves | 5 | 0 | 2 | 1 | £3,499 | €0 | ||
| Barry McHugh | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Tom Eaves
- Jockey
- Tom Eaves
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,499
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Barry McHugh
- Jockey
- Barry McHugh
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Geoff Oldroyd | 6 | 0 | 2 | 1 | £3,499 | €0 |
Geoff Oldroyd
- Trainer
- Geoff Oldroyd
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,499
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 6 | 0 | 2 | 1 | £3,499 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,499
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 3 | 0 | 2 | 0 | £2,763 | €0 | ||
| 61 to 120 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £735 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 2
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,763
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
61 to 120 days
- Days since last run
- 61 to 120 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £735
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchNo Nay Never (USA)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireScat Daddy (USA)
- Sire's damCat's Eye Witness (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchTahara (IRE)
Parent · 1
- DamTahara (IRE)
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireCaerleon (USA)
- Dam's damTarwiya (IRE)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireDominion (GB)
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Tahara (IRE) · by Caerleon (USA) · 6 winners from 12 runners
- Tarwiya (IRE) · by Dominion (GB) · 2 winners from 4 runners · Group 3 winner (2 black-type wins)
- Touraya (GB) · 6 winners from 9 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Breeder | Foaled | Colour | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No Nay Never (USA) | Tahara (IRE) | Caerleon (USA) | Arctic Tack Stud | 20 Apr 18 | bay | mare | Flat 6.9f · NH 2m | Flat 8.8f · NH 2m2f |
No Nay Never (USA)
- Dam
- Tahara (IRE)
- Damsire
- Caerleon (USA)
- Breeder
- Arctic Tack Stud
- Foaled
- 20 Apr 18
- Colour
- bay
- Sex
- mare
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 6.9f · NH 2m
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 8.8f · NH 2m2f
Progeny of No Nay Never (USA) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 5,488 | 669 | 1,671 | 6 | 0 | ||
| At 5f to 6f | 2,435 | 332 | 801 | 6 | 0 | ||
| On Good to firm or firmer going | 925 | 125 | 303 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 5f to 6f on Good to firm or firmer going | 499 | 73 | 172 | 2 | 0 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 5,488
- Wins
- 669
- Placed
- 1,671
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 6
- This horse wins
- 0
At 5f to 6f
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 2,435
- Wins
- 332
- Placed
- 801
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 6
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good to firm or firmer going
- Condition
- On Good to firm or firmer going
- Runs
- 925
- Wins
- 125
- Placed
- 303
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 5f to 6f on Good to firm or firmer going
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f on Good to firm or firmer going
- Runs
- 499
- Wins
- 73
- Placed
- 172
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
No Nay Never (USA) × Caerleon (USA) mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 1 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 0 | 3 | £3,499 | €0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 3
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,499
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Never Say Never (IRE) | 6 | 0 | 0 | £3,499 | €0 |
Never Say Never (IRE)
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,499
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 68 | 70 | 67 | 3 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 68
- Highest OR
- 70
- Lowest OR
- 67
- Rated runs
- 3
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 68 | 68 | 0 | 70 | -2 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 68
- OR last run
- 68
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 70
- v highest
- -2
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 6 winners from 12 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by No Nay Never (USA) out of Tahara (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Dr Fong (USA)
- Tamora (GB)1W · 20R
By Compton Place (GB)
- Godfrey Street (GB)8W · 50R · 1 black-type
- Ahwahnee (GB)0W · 2R
By Best Of The Bests (IRE)
- Always Ready (GB)1W · 17R
By Monsieur Bond (IRE)
- Gilt Edge Girl (GB)5W · 16R · 2 black-type
By Proclamation (IRE)
- Xclaim (GB)1W · 11R
By Notnowcato (GB)
- Winnam (GB)2W · 9R
By Sakhee's Secret (GB)
- Golden Secret (GB)0W · 4R
By Fastnet Rock (AUS)
- Novel Concept (IRE)0W · 3R
By Zoffany (IRE)
- Graceful (IRE)0W · 3R
By Requinto (IRE)
- Blue Umbrella (IRE)0W · 12R
Female line
- 1Tahara (IRE) · by Caerleon (USA)
- 2Tarwiya (IRE) · by Dominion (GB)
- 3Touraya (GB)
Notable relatives
Half-brother
- Godfrey Street (GB)8W · 50R · 1 black-type
First cousin
- Sword Fighter (IRE)3W · 13R · 2 black-type
- Big Audio (IRE)2W · 9R · 2 black-type
Great-niece
- Arabian Dusk (GB)1W · 12R · 1 black-type
Half-sister
- Gilt Edge Girl (GB)5W · 16R · 2 black-type
2nd dam
- Tarwiya (IRE)3W · 15R · 2 black-type
Nephew (out of a sibling)
- Streamline (GB)4W · 19R · 1 black-type
Great-uncle (out of 3rd dam)
- Blue Dakota (IRE)4W · 7R · 1 black-type
In brief
When was Never Say Never foaled?
Never Say Never (IRE), a bay racehorse, was foaled on 20 April 2018.
Who are the sire and dam of Never Say Never?
Never Say Never (IRE) is by No Nay Never (USA) out of Tahara (IRE), a daughter of Caerleon (USA), and was bred by Arctic Tack Stud.
Who trained Never Say Never?
Never Say Never (IRE) was trained by Geoff Oldroyd and owned by Bond Thoroughbred Limited at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Never Say Never's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Never Say Never (IRE) ran 6 times without winning.
What was Never Say Never's official rating?
Never Say Never (IRE) was last officially rated 68 on the Flat (career high 70).
Is Never Say Never still racing?
Never Say Never (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 8 October 2021 at Newcastle (AW) in the Free Replays On attheraces.com Handicap, finishing 12th of 14, and has not run there since.
Is Never Say Never related to any top horses?
Never Say Never (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Godfrey Street (GB) (half-brother, Group 2 winner), Gilt Edge Girl (GB) (half-sister, Group 3 winner) and Sword Fighter (IRE) (first cousin, Group 2 winner), from the Touraya (GB) family.
What is Never Say Never's record at Redcar?
Never Say Never (IRE) ran most often at Redcar, with no wins from 2 runs there.
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