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Horse profile
Logician (GB)
- TrainerJohn & Thady Gosden
- OwnerJuddmonte
- FamilyDidicoy
- Sex
- horse
- Foaled
- 2016
See also: Logician (NZ) · I A Balding · 13 runs · 2 wins
- Highest OR
- 118
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 6 wins from 9 runs (67%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £547,751 GB
- Last official rating
- 116 (Flat)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 26 Jun 2021, Newmarket (July) (2/6)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- 10 Sep 2020, Doncaster
Recent form
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Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 26 Jun 21 | Newmarket (July) | 2/6 | 5/6F | 1 | Robert Havlin | John & Thady Gosden | Close Brothers Fred Archer Stakes | Listed | Flat Turf | 1m4f | Good to Firm | 9-0 | 116 | Outbox (GB) | £20,983 | 42 | 0/5 |
| 15 May 21 | Newbury | 3/5 | 15/8 | 5½ | Frankie Dettori | John & Thady Gosden | Al Rayyan Stakes | Group 3 | Flat Turf | 1m4f | Good to Soft | 9-0 | 118 | Al Aasy (IRE) | £56,710 | 218 | 0/4 |
| 9 Oct 20 | York | 4/4 | 1/3F | 9¾ | Martin Harley | John Gosden | Betsafe Cumberland Lodge Stakes | Group 3 | Flat Turf | 1m4f | Soft | 9-0 | 118 | Euchen Glen (GB) | £27,221 | 29 | 1/3 |
| 10 Sep 20 | Doncaster | 1/2 | 1/12F | won 7 | Frankie Dettori | John Gosden | Sky Sports Racing Sky 415 Conditions Stakes | Class 2 | Flat Turf | 1m2f | Good | 9-2 | 118 | Mythical Magic (IRE) | £12,450 | 362 | 0/1 |
| 14 Sep 19 | Doncaster | 1/8 | 5/6F | won 2¼ | Frankie Dettori | John Gosden | William Hill St Leger Stakes | Group 1 | Flat Turf | 1m6½f | Good to Firm | 9-1 | 115 | Sir Ron Priestley (GB) | £396,970 | 24 | 3/6 |
| 21 Aug 19 | York | 1/5 | 10/11F | won 1¾ | Frankie Dettori | John Gosden | Sky Bet Great Voltigeur Stakes (Colts & Geldings) | Group 2 | Flat Turf | 1m4f | Good | 9-0 | 101 | Constantinople (IRE) | £96,407 | 48 | 1/2 |
| 4 Jul 19 | Newbury | 1/5 | 1/5F | won 4½ | Frankie Dettori | John Gosden | Rancho Zabaco Handicap | Class 3 | Flat Turf | 1m4f | Good to Firm | 9-7 | 90 | Natty Night (GB) | £8,086 | 13 | 1/4 |
| 21 Jun 19 | Newmarket (July) | 1/7 | 2/9F | won 1¾ | Robert Havlin | John Gosden | Palace House Newmarket British EBF Novice Stakes | Class 4 | Flat Turf | 1m2f | Good to Soft | 9-8 | - | Away He Goes (IRE) | £5,822 | 35 | 1/5 |
| 17 May 19 | Newbury | 1/19 | 3/1F | won 2 | Kieran O'Neill | John Gosden | Rossdales Lambourn Veterinary Surgeons British EBF Maiden Stakes | Class 4 | Flat Turf | 1m2f | Good | 9-5 | - | High Commissioner (IRE) | £6,728 | - | 2/17 |
- 2/626 Jun 21 · Newmarket (July)5/6F
Close Brothers Fred Archer Stakes
Listed1m4fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 26 Jun 21
- Course
- Newmarket (July)
- Pos
- 2/6
- SP
- 5/6F
- Btn
- 1
- Jockey
- Robert Havlin
- Trainer
- John & Thady Gosden
- Race
- Close Brothers Fred Archer Stakes
- Class
- Listed
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m4f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 9-0
- OR
- 116
- Winner / 2nd
- Outbox (GB)
- Winner prize
- £20,983
- Days
- 42
- Future form
- 0/5
Al Rayyan Stakes
Group 31m4fGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 15 May 21
- Course
- Newbury
- Pos
- 3/5
- SP
- 15/8
- Btn
- 5½
- Jockey
- Frankie Dettori
- Trainer
- John & Thady Gosden
- Race
- Al Rayyan Stakes
- Class
- Group 3
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m4f
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 9-0
- OR
- 118
- Winner / 2nd
- Al Aasy (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £56,710
- Days
- 218
- Future form
- 0/4
Betsafe Cumberland Lodge Stakes
Group 31m4fSoft
All fields
- Date
- 9 Oct 20
- Course
- York
- Pos
- 4/4
- SP
- 1/3F
- Btn
- 9¾
- Jockey
- Martin Harley
- Trainer
- John Gosden
- Race
- Betsafe Cumberland Lodge Stakes
- Class
- Group 3
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m4f
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 9-0
- OR
- 118
- Winner / 2nd
- Euchen Glen (GB)
- Winner prize
- £27,221
- Days
- 29
- Future form
- 1/3
Sky Sports Racing Sky 415 Conditions Stakes
Class 21m2fGood
All fields
- Date
- 10 Sep 20
- Course
- Doncaster
- Pos
- 1/2
- SP
- 1/12F
- Btn
- won 7
- Jockey
- Frankie Dettori
- Trainer
- John Gosden
- Race
- Sky Sports Racing Sky 415 Conditions Stakes
- Class
- Class 2
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m2f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 9-2
- OR
- 118
- Winner / 2nd
- Mythical Magic (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £12,450
- Days
- 362
- Future form
- 0/1
William Hill St Leger Stakes
Group 11m6½fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 14 Sep 19
- Course
- Doncaster
- Pos
- 1/8
- SP
- 5/6F
- Btn
- won 2¼
- Jockey
- Frankie Dettori
- Trainer
- John Gosden
- Race
- William Hill St Leger Stakes
- Class
- Group 1
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m6½f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 9-1
- OR
- 115
- Winner / 2nd
- Sir Ron Priestley (GB)
- Winner prize
- £396,970
- Days
- 24
- Future form
- 3/6
Sky Bet Great Voltigeur Stakes (Colts & Geldings)
Group 21m4fGood
All fields
- Date
- 21 Aug 19
- Course
- York
- Pos
- 1/5
- SP
- 10/11F
- Btn
- won 1¾
- Jockey
- Frankie Dettori
- Trainer
- John Gosden
- Race
- Sky Bet Great Voltigeur Stakes (Colts & Geldings)
- Class
- Group 2
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m4f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 9-0
- OR
- 101
- Winner / 2nd
- Constantinople (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £96,407
- Days
- 48
- Future form
- 1/2
Rancho Zabaco Handicap
Class 31m4fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 4 Jul 19
- Course
- Newbury
- Pos
- 1/5
- SP
- 1/5F
- Btn
- won 4½
- Jockey
- Frankie Dettori
- Trainer
- John Gosden
- Race
- Rancho Zabaco Handicap
- Class
- Class 3
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m4f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 9-7
- OR
- 90
- Winner / 2nd
- Natty Night (GB)
- Winner prize
- £8,086
- Days
- 13
- Future form
- 1/4
- 1/721 Jun 19 · Newmarket (July)2/9F
Palace House Newmarket British EBF Novice Stakes
Class 41m2fGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 21 Jun 19
- Course
- Newmarket (July)
- Pos
- 1/7
- SP
- 2/9F
- Btn
- won 1¾
- Jockey
- Robert Havlin
- Trainer
- John Gosden
- Race
- Palace House Newmarket British EBF Novice Stakes
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m2f
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 9-8
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Away He Goes (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £5,822
- Days
- 35
- Future form
- 1/5
Rossdales Lambourn Veterinary Surgeons British EBF Maiden Stakes
Class 41m2fGood
All fields
- Date
- 17 May 19
- Course
- Newbury
- Pos
- 1/19
- SP
- 3/1F
- Btn
- won 2
- Jockey
- Kieran O'Neill
- Trainer
- John Gosden
- Race
- Rossdales Lambourn Veterinary Surgeons British EBF Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m2f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 9-5
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- High Commissioner (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £6,728
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 2/17
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 9 Oct 20 | York | Betsafe Cumberland Lodge Stakes | 4/4 | Euchen Glen (GB) | 1 | 24 Oct 20 | Newbury | Pravha Stakes |
| 14 Sep 19 | Doncaster | William Hill St Leger Stakes | 1/8 | Sir Ron Priestley (GB) | 2 | 7 Apr 21 | Nottingham | MansionBet Barry Hills Further Flight Stakes |
| 14 Sep 19 | Doncaster | William Hill St Leger Stakes | 1/8 | Nayef Road (IRE) | 3 | 6 Jun 20 | Newcastle (AW) | Betway Sagaro Stakes |
| 14 Sep 19 | Doncaster | William Hill St Leger Stakes | 1/8 | Dashing Willoughby (GB) | 7 | 7 Jun 20 | Newmarket | Betfair Exchange Buckhounds Stakes |
| 21 Aug 19 | York | Sky Bet Great Voltigeur Stakes (Colts & Geldings) | 1/5 | Norway (IRE) | 3 | 14 Sep 19 | Leopardstown (IRE) | Paddy Power Betting Shop Stakes (Inner Track) |
| 4 Jul 19 | Newbury | Rancho Zabaco Handicap | 1/5 | Just Hubert (IRE) | 3 | 8 Jul 19 | Ripon | Sky Sports Racing Virgin 535 Handicap |
| 21 Jun 19 | Newmarket (July) | Palace House Newmarket British EBF Novice Stakes | 1/7 | Away He Goes (IRE) | 2 | 11 Jul 19 | Newbury | Kennet Centre Novice Stakes |
| 17 May 19 | Newbury | Rossdales Lambourn Veterinary Surgeons British EBF Maiden Stakes | 1/19 | Cambric (GB) | 7 | 16 Jun 19 | Salisbury | Paul Elliott Memorial Handicap |
| 17 May 19 | Newbury | Rossdales Lambourn Veterinary Surgeons British EBF Maiden Stakes | 1/19 | Admirals Bay (GER) | 14 | 30 May 19 | Yarmouth | Seadell Shops & Holiday Chalets Hemsby Handicap |
- 4/49 Oct 20 · York
Betsafe Cumberland Lodge Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 9 Oct 20
- Course
- York
- Race
- Betsafe Cumberland Lodge Stakes
- This horse
- 4/4
- Winner next time
- Euchen Glen (GB)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 24 Oct 20
- At
- Newbury
- Race won
- Pravha Stakes
- 1/814 Sep 19 · Doncaster
William Hill St Leger Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 14 Sep 19
- Course
- Doncaster
- Race
- William Hill St Leger Stakes
- This horse
- 1/8
- Winner next time
- Sir Ron Priestley (GB)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 7 Apr 21
- Race won
- MansionBet Barry Hills Further Flight Stakes
- 1/814 Sep 19 · Doncaster
William Hill St Leger Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 14 Sep 19
- Course
- Doncaster
- Race
- William Hill St Leger Stakes
- This horse
- 1/8
- Winner next time
- Nayef Road (IRE)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 6 Jun 20
- At
- Newcastle (AW)
- Race won
- Betway Sagaro Stakes
- 1/814 Sep 19 · Doncaster
William Hill St Leger Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 14 Sep 19
- Course
- Doncaster
- Race
- William Hill St Leger Stakes
- This horse
- 1/8
- Winner next time
- Dashing Willoughby (GB)
- Their pos
- 7
- Won on
- 7 Jun 20
- At
- Newmarket
- Race won
- Betfair Exchange Buckhounds Stakes
- 1/521 Aug 19 · York
Sky Bet Great Voltigeur Stakes (Colts & Geldings)
All fields
- Date
- 21 Aug 19
- Course
- York
- Race
- Sky Bet Great Voltigeur Stakes (Colts & Geldings)
- This horse
- 1/5
- Winner next time
- Norway (IRE)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 14 Sep 19
- Race won
- Paddy Power Betting Shop Stakes (Inner Track)
- 1/54 Jul 19 · Newbury
Rancho Zabaco Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 4 Jul 19
- Course
- Newbury
- Race
- Rancho Zabaco Handicap
- This horse
- 1/5
- Winner next time
- Just Hubert (IRE)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 8 Jul 19
- At
- Ripon
- Race won
- Sky Sports Racing Virgin 535 Handicap
- 1/721 Jun 19 · Newmarket (July)
Palace House Newmarket British EBF Novice Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 21 Jun 19
- Course
- Newmarket (July)
- Race
- Palace House Newmarket British EBF Novice Stakes
- This horse
- 1/7
- Winner next time
- Away He Goes (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 11 Jul 19
- At
- Newbury
- Race won
- Kennet Centre Novice Stakes
- 1/1917 May 19 · Newbury
Rossdales Lambourn Veterinary Surgeons British EBF Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 17 May 19
- Course
- Newbury
- Race
- Rossdales Lambourn Veterinary Surgeons British EBF Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 1/19
- Winner next time
- Cambric (GB)
- Their pos
- 7
- Won on
- 16 Jun 19
- Race won
- Paul Elliott Memorial Handicap
- 1/1917 May 19 · Newbury
Rossdales Lambourn Veterinary Surgeons British EBF Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 17 May 19
- Course
- Newbury
- Race
- Rossdales Lambourn Veterinary Surgeons British EBF Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 1/19
- Winner next time
- Admirals Bay (GER)
- Their pos
- 14
- Won on
- 30 May 19
- At
- Yarmouth
- Race won
- Seadell Shops & Holiday Chalets Hemsby Handicap
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | Moved from | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| John & Thady Gosden | John Gosden | 15 May 21 | 26 Jun 21 | 3/5 | 118 | 116 | 118 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £18,715 | €0 | ||
| John Gosden | - | 17 May 19 | 9 Oct 20 | 1/19 | 90 | 118 | 118 | 7 | 6 | 0 | 0 | £529,036 | €0 |
John & Thady Gosden
- Trainer
- John & Thady Gosden
- Moved from
- John Gosden
- First run
- 15 May 21
- Last run
- 26 Jun 21
- First run for yard
- 3/5
- OR first run
- 118
- OR last run
- 116
- Best OR
- 118
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £18,715
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
John Gosden
- Trainer
- John Gosden
- First run
- 17 May 19
- Last run
- 9 Oct 20
- First run for yard
- 1/19
- OR first run
- 90
- OR last run
- 118
- Best OR
- 118
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 6
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £529,036
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Spells with each trainer in race order, latest first (a horse that returns to a trainer shows a new spell). From British and Irish runs since 1990.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 9 | 6 | 1 | 1 | £547,751 | €0 | 118 | 17 May 19 | 26 Jun 21 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 6
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £547,751
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 118
- First run
- 17 May 19
- Last run
- 26 Jun 21
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat Turf | 9 | 6 | 1 | 1 | £547,751 | €0 |
Flat Turf
- Race type
- Flat Turf
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 6
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £547,751
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 3 | 2 | 1 | 0 | £413,011 | €0 | ||
| Good | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0 | £115,585 | €0 | ||
| Good to Soft | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £16,582 | €0 | ||
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £2,573 | €0 |
Good to Firm
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £413,011
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 3
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £115,585
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good to Soft
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £16,582
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Soft
- Going
- Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,573
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 9f to 11f | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0 | £25,000 | €0 | ||
| 12f to 13f | 5 | 2 | 1 | 1 | £125,781 | €0 | ||
| 14f and over | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £396,970 | €0 |
9f to 11f
- Distance
- 9f to 11f
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 3
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £25,000
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
12f to 13f
- Distance
- 12f to 13f
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £125,781
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
14f and over
- Distance
- 14f and over
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £396,970
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Newbury | 3 | 2 | 0 | 1 | £25,574 | €0 | ||
| Doncaster | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | £409,420 | €0 | ||
| Newmarket (July) | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | £13,777 | €0 | ||
| York | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £98,980 | €0 |
Newbury
- Course
- Newbury
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £25,574
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Doncaster
- Course
- Doncaster
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £409,420
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Newmarket (July)
- Course
- Newmarket (July)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £13,777
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
York
- Course
- York
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £98,980
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Group 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £396,970 | €0 | ||
| Group 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £96,407 | €0 | ||
| Group 3 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £13,333 | €0 | ||
| Listed | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £7,955 | €0 | ||
| Class 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £12,450 | €0 | ||
| Class 3 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £8,086 | €0 | ||
| Class 4 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | £12,550 | €0 |
Group 1
- Class
- Group 1
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £396,970
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Group 2
- Class
- Group 2
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £96,407
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Group 3
- Class
- Group 3
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £13,333
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Listed
- Class
- Listed
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £7,955
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 2
- Class
- Class 2
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £12,450
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 3
- Class
- Class 3
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £8,086
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 4
- Class
- Class 4
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £12,550
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2 to 5 runners | 5 | 3 | 0 | 1 | £130,276 | €0 | ||
| 6 to 8 runners | 3 | 2 | 1 | 0 | £410,747 | €0 | ||
| 17+ runners | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £6,728 | €0 |
2 to 5 runners
- Runners
- 2 to 5 runners
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 3
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £130,276
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
6 to 8 runners
- Runners
- 6 to 8 runners
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £410,747
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
17+ runners
- Runners
- 17+ runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £6,728
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| May | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £17,488 | €0 | ||
| June | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | £13,777 | €0 | ||
| July | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £8,086 | €0 | ||
| August | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £96,407 | €0 | ||
| September | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | £409,420 | €0 | ||
| October | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £2,573 | €0 |
May
- Month
- May
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £17,488
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
June
- Month
- June
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £13,777
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
July
- Month
- July
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £8,086
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
August
- Month
- August
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £96,407
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
September
- Month
- September
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £409,420
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
October
- Month
- October
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,573
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Frankie Dettori | 5 | 4 | 0 | 1 | £524,673 | €0 | ||
| Robert Havlin | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | £13,777 | €0 | ||
| Kieran O'Neill | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £6,728 | €0 | ||
| Martin Harley | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £2,573 | €0 |
Frankie Dettori
- Jockey
- Frankie Dettori
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 4
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £524,673
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Robert Havlin
- Jockey
- Robert Havlin
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £13,777
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Kieran O'Neill
- Jockey
- Kieran O'Neill
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £6,728
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Martin Harley
- Jockey
- Martin Harley
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,573
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| John Gosden | 7 | 6 | 0 | 0 | £529,036 | €0 | ||
| John & Thady Gosden | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £18,715 | €0 |
John Gosden
- Trainer
- John Gosden
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 6
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £529,036
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
John & Thady Gosden
- Trainer
- John & Thady Gosden
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £18,715
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 9 | 6 | 1 | 1 | £547,751 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 6
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £547,751
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £6,728 | €0 | ||
| 8 to 14 days | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £8,086 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £399,543 | €0 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 3 | 2 | 1 | 0 | £110,184 | €0 | ||
| 121 to 365 days | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £23,210 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £6,728
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
8 to 14 days
- Days since last run
- 8 to 14 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £8,086
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £399,543
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £110,184
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
121 to 365 days
- Days since last run
- 121 to 365 days
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £23,210
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchFrankel (GB)
Parent · 1
- SireFrankel (GB)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireGalileo (IRE)
- Sire's damKind (IRE)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchScuffle (GB)
Parent · 1
- DamScuffle (GB)
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireDaylami (IRE)
- Dam's damTantina (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireDistant View (USA)
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Tantina (USA)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Distant View (USA)
Not traced
Breeding card
HorseLogician (GB)
Sexhorse
Foaled2016
SireFrankel (GB)
DamScuffle (GB)
DamsireDaylami (IRE)
Sire's sireGalileo (IRE)
Sire's damKind (IRE)
2nd damTantina (USA)
2nd dam's sireDistant View (USA)
Dam's own recordBlack-type placed
Dam's produce9 winners from 9 runners
Notable siblingOkeechobee (GB)
Female line
- Scuffle (GB) · by Daylami (IRE) · 9 winners from 9 runners · Black-type placed
- Tantina (USA) · by Distant View (USA) · 4 winners from 4 runners · Listed winner (2 black-type wins)
- Didina (GB) · by Nashwan (USA) · 5 winners from 7 runners · Listed winner
- Didicoy (USA) · 5 winners from 8 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Frankel (GB) | Scuffle (GB) | Daylami (IRE) | horse | Flat 9.8f · NH 2m1½f | Flat 9.4f · NH 2m3f |
Frankel (GB)
- Sire
- Frankel (GB)
- Dam
- Scuffle (GB)
- Damsire
- Daylami (IRE)
- Sex
- horse
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 9.8f · NH 2m1½f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 9.4f · NH 2m3f
Progeny of Frankel (GB) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 5,920 | 1,058 | 2,210 | 9 | 6 | ||
| At 9f to 11f | 1,642 | 284 | 592 | 3 | 3 | ||
| On Good going | 1,603 | 292 | 606 | 3 | 3 | ||
| At 9f to 11f on Good going | 480 | 87 | 181 | 2 | 2 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 5,920
- Wins
- 1,058
- Placed
- 2,210
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 9
- This horse wins
- 6
At 9f to 11f
- Condition
- At 9f to 11f
- Runs
- 1,642
- Wins
- 284
- Placed
- 592
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 3
On Good going
- Condition
- On Good going
- Runs
- 1,603
- Wins
- 292
- Placed
- 606
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 3
At 9f to 11f on Good going
- Condition
- At 9f to 11f on Good going
- Runs
- 480
- Wins
- 87
- Placed
- 181
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 2
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Frankel (GB) × Daylami mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 7 | 6 | 3 | 51 | 17 | 16 | £852,201 | €0 | ||
| National Hunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| All runs | 7 | 6 | 3 | 52 | 17 | 16 | £852,201 | €0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 7
- Winners
- 6
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 3
- Runs
- 51
- Wins
- 17
- 2nd/3rd
- 16
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £852,201
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
All runs
- Code
- All runs
- Runners
- 7
- Winners
- 6
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 3
- Runs
- 52
- Wins
- 17
- 2nd/3rd
- 16
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £852,201
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Best win | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Logician (GB) | 9 | 6 | 2 | Group/Grade 1 | £547,751 | €0 |
| Frankly Darling (GB) | 6 | 2 | 1 | Group/Grade 2 | £103,567 | €0 |
| Juan Elcano (GB) | 14 | 2 | 1 | Listed | £130,855 | €0 |
| Collide (GB) | 14 | 5 | 0 | - | £48,426 | €0 |
| Najidi Storm (GB) | 3 | 1 | 0 | - | £13,100 | €0 |
| Invictus Spirit (GB) | 3 | 1 | 0 | - | £6,616 | €0 |
| Marechal Ney (GB) | 3 | 0 | 0 | - | £1,886 | €0 |
Logician (GB)
- Horse
- Logician (GB)
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 6
- Black-type wins
- 2
- Best win
- Group/Grade 1
- Prize GB (£)
- £547,751
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Frankly Darling (GB)
- Horse
- Frankly Darling (GB)
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 1
- Best win
- Group/Grade 2
- Prize GB (£)
- £103,567
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Juan Elcano (GB)
- Horse
- Juan Elcano (GB)
- Runs
- 14
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 1
- Best win
- Listed
- Prize GB (£)
- £130,855
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Collide (GB)
- Horse
- Collide (GB)
- Runs
- 14
- Wins
- 5
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £48,426
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Najidi Storm (GB)
- Horse
- Najidi Storm (GB)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £13,100
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Invictus Spirit (GB)
- Horse
- Invictus Spirit (GB)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £6,616
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Marechal Ney (GB)
- Horse
- Marechal Ney (GB)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,886
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Last winning OR | Last win | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 116 | 118 | 90 | 118 | 10 Sep 20 | 7 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 116
- Highest OR
- 118
- Lowest OR
- 90
- Last winning OR
- 118
- Last win
- 10 Sep 20
- Rated runs
- 7
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
| Date | Course | Code | OR | Change | Pos |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 26 Jun 21 | Newmarket (July) | Flat | 116 | -2 | 2/6 |
| 15 May 21 | Newbury | Flat | 118 | 0 | 3/5 |
| 9 Oct 20 | York | Flat | 118 | 0 | 4/4 |
| 10 Sep 20 | Doncaster | Flat | 118 | 3 | 1/2 |
| 14 Sep 19 | Doncaster | Flat | 115 | 14 | 1/8 |
| 21 Aug 19 | York | Flat | 101 | 11 | 1/5 |
| 4 Jul 19 | Newbury | Flat | 90 | - | 1/5 |
- 2/626 Jun 21 · Newmarket (July)
All fields
- Date
- 26 Jun 21
- Course
- Newmarket (July)
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 116
- Change
- -2
- Pos
- 2/6
- 3/515 May 21 · Newbury
All fields
- Date
- 15 May 21
- Course
- Newbury
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 118
- Change
- 0
- Pos
- 3/5
- 4/49 Oct 20 · York
All fields
- Date
- 9 Oct 20
- Course
- York
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 118
- Change
- 0
- Pos
- 4/4
- 1/210 Sep 20 · Doncaster
All fields
- Date
- 10 Sep 20
- Course
- Doncaster
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 118
- Change
- 3
- Pos
- 1/2
- 1/814 Sep 19 · Doncaster
All fields
- Date
- 14 Sep 19
- Course
- Doncaster
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 115
- Change
- 14
- Pos
- 1/8
- 1/521 Aug 19 · York
All fields
- Date
- 21 Aug 19
- Course
- York
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 101
- Change
- 11
- Pos
- 1/5
- 1/54 Jul 19 · Newbury
All fields
- Date
- 4 Jul 19
- Course
- Newbury
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 90
- Change
- -
- Pos
- 1/5
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Last winning OR | Last win | v last winning | Highest winning OR | v highest winning | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 116 | 116 | 0 | 118 | 10 Sep 20 | -2 | 118 | -2 | 118 | -2 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 116
- OR last run
- 116
- Change
- 0
- Last winning OR
- 118
- Last win
- 10 Sep 20
- v last winning
- -2
- Highest winning OR
- 118
- v highest winning
- -2
- Highest OR
- 118
- v highest
- -2
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- Record
- Black-type placed
- G1 winners
- 1
- Produce
- 9 winners from 9 runners
Full siblings
- Collide (GB)5W · 14R
- Najidi Storm (GB)1W · 3R
Half siblings
By Oasis Dream (GB)
- Sleep Walk (GB)3W · 5R
By Champs Elysees (GB)
- Suffused (GB)3W · 8R
By Dansili (GB)
- Battlement (GB)3W · 8R
By Kingman (GB)
- Monsoon Moon (GB)1W · 2R
- Skimmer (GB)2W · 3R
By Time Test (GB)
- Okeechobee (GB)4W · 11R · 1 black-type
Female line
- 1Scuffle (GB) · by Daylami (IRE)
- 2Tantina (USA) · by Distant View (USA)
- 3Didina (GB) · by Nashwan (USA)
- 4Didicoy (USA)
Notable relatives
Uncle (out of 2nd dam)
- Bated Breath (GB)6W · 16R · 2 black-type
- Cityscape (GB)4W · 15R · 3 black-type
Half-brother
- Okeechobee (GB)4W · 11R · 1 black-type
First cousin once removed
- Tabiti (GB)3W · 5R · 2 black-type
- Crying Lightening (IRE)2W · 7R · 1 black-type
2nd dam
- Tantina (USA)4W · 5R · 2 black-type
3rd dam
- Didina (GB)3W · 6R · 1 black-type
Great-great-aunt (out of 4th dam)
- Star Cluster (GB)2W · 5R · 1 black-type
In brief
When was Logician foaled?
Logician (GB) was foaled in 2016.
Who are the sire and dam of Logician?
Logician (GB) is by Frankel (GB) out of Scuffle (GB), a daughter of Daylami (IRE).
Who trained Logician?
Logician (GB) was trained by John & Thady Gosden and owned by Juddmonte at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland, having also run for John Gosden.
What is Logician's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Logician (GB) won 6 of 9 races (67%). Runs abroad (for example in France, Dubai or the USA) are not included.
What is Logician's biggest win?
Logician (GB)'s biggest win in Britain or Ireland came in the William Hill St Leger Stakes (Group 1) at Doncaster on 14 September 2019.
Has Logician ever been beaten?
Logician (GB) was beaten 3 times in 9 runs in Britain and Ireland, the first time on 9 October 2020 at York (4th of 4).
What was Logician's official rating?
Logician (GB) was last officially rated 116 on the Flat (career high 118).
Is Logician still racing?
Logician (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 26 June 2021 at Newmarket (July) in the Close Brothers Fred Archer Stakes, finishing 2nd of 6, and has not run there since.
Is Logician related to any top horses?
Logician (GB)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Okeechobee (GB) (half-brother, Group 3 winner), Bated Breath (GB) (uncle, Group 2 winner) and Cityscape (GB) (uncle, Group 3 winner), from the Didicoy (USA) family.
What is Logician's record at Newbury?
Logician (GB) ran most often at Newbury, with 2 wins from 3 runs there.
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