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Horse profile
Just The Same
- TrainerRobert Gill
- OwnerRobert Gill
- Sex
- mare
- Foaled
- 1986
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 26 Aug 1992, Tralee (IRE) (PU/7)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 26 Aug 92 | Tralee (IRE) | PU/7 | 12/1 | - | Ms C Hutchinson | Robert Gill | The Earl Of Desmond Flat Race | Non-handicap (unclassified) | NH Flat | 2m1f | Good | 11-6 | Welsh Singer (GB) | 23 | 0/6 |
| 3 Aug 92 | Tipperary (IRE) | 7/13 | 12/1 | 16¾ | Ms C Hutchinson | Robert Gill | Knockmealdown INH Flat Race | Non-handicap (unclassified) | NH Flat | 2m | Good to Firm | 11-6 | No Light (GB) | - | 2/11 |
- PU/726 Aug 92 · Tralee (IRE)12/1
The Earl Of Desmond Flat Race
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m1fGood
All fields
- Date
- 26 Aug 92
- Course
- Tralee (IRE)
- Pos
- PU/7
- SP
- 12/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Ms C Hutchinson
- Trainer
- Robert Gill
- Race
- The Earl Of Desmond Flat Race
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m1f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 11-6
- Winner / 2nd
- Welsh Singer (GB)
- Days
- 23
- Future form
- 0/6
Knockmealdown INH Flat Race
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 3 Aug 92
- Course
- Tipperary (IRE)
- Pos
- 7/13
- SP
- 12/1
- Btn
- 16¾
- Jockey
- Ms C Hutchinson
- Trainer
- Robert Gill
- Race
- Knockmealdown INH Flat Race
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 11-6
- Winner / 2nd
- No Light (GB)
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 2/11
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3 Aug 92 | Tipperary (IRE) | Knockmealdown INH Flat Race | 7/13 | Kings River Lad (GB) | 2 | 17 Aug 92 | Roscommon (IRE) | Portrunny INH Flat Race |
| 3 Aug 92 | Tipperary (IRE) | Knockmealdown INH Flat Race | 7/13 | Know Great Sheikhs (GB) | 3 | 7 Nov 92 | Navan (IRE) | Noel V. Ginnity Flat Race |
- 7/133 Aug 92 · Tipperary (IRE)
Knockmealdown INH Flat Race
All fields
- Date
- 3 Aug 92
- Course
- Tipperary (IRE)
- Race
- Knockmealdown INH Flat Race
- This horse
- 7/13
- Winner next time
- Kings River Lad (GB)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 17 Aug 92
- Race won
- Portrunny INH Flat Race
- 7/133 Aug 92 · Tipperary (IRE)
Knockmealdown INH Flat Race
All fields
- Date
- 3 Aug 92
- Course
- Tipperary (IRE)
- Race
- Knockmealdown INH Flat Race
- This horse
- 7/13
- Winner next time
- Know Great Sheikhs (GB)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 7 Nov 92
- Race won
- Noel V. Ginnity Flat Race
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Robert Gill | 3 Aug 92 | 26 Aug 92 | 7/13 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Robert Gill
- Trainer
- Robert Gill
- First run
- 3 Aug 92
- Last run
- 26 Aug 92
- First run for yard
- 7/13
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 3 Aug 92 | 26 Aug 92 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 3 Aug 92
- Last run
- 26 Aug 92
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchTug Of War (GB)
Parent · 1
- SireTug Of War (GB)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchCarrigal (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireDeep Run (GB)
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Carrigal (GB) · 0 winners from 5 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tug Of War (GB) | Carrigal (GB) | Deep Run (GB) | mare | Flat 24.0f · NH 2m4f | Flat 12.5f · NH 2m3½f |
Tug Of War (GB)
- Sire
- Tug Of War (GB)
- Damsire
- Deep Run (GB)
- Sex
- mare
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 24.0f · NH 2m4f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 12.5f · NH 2m3½f
Progeny of Tug Of War (GB) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 609 | 76 | 166 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f | 172 | 21 | 42 | 2 | 0 | ||
| On Good going | 203 | 27 | 62 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f on Good going | 48 | 7 | 14 | 1 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 609
- Wins
- 76
- Placed
- 166
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 172
- Wins
- 21
- Placed
- 42
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good going
- Condition
- On Good going
- Runs
- 203
- Wins
- 27
- Placed
- 62
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good going
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f on Good going
- Runs
- 48
- Wins
- 7
- Placed
- 14
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Tug Of War (GB) × Deep Run mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 2 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 2
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Just The Same (GB) | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
| Wanderline (GB) | 5 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Just The Same (GB)
- Horse
- Just The Same (GB)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Wanderline (GB)
- Horse
- Wanderline (GB)
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 0 winners from 5 runners
Full siblings
- Wanderline (GB)0W · 5R
Half siblings
By Golden Love I (GB)
- Kruggeran Smuggler (GB)0W · 12R
- Alaicbrun (GB)0W · 13R
By Jeu De Paille (FR)
- Wild Game (IRE)0W · 5R
Female line
- 1Carrigal (GB)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Just The Same foaled?
Just The Same (GB) was foaled in 1986.
Who are the sire and dam of Just The Same?
Just The Same (GB) is by Tug Of War (GB) out of Carrigal (GB), a daughter of Deep Run (GB).
Who trained Just The Same?
Just The Same (GB) was trained by Robert Gill and owned by Robert Gill at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Just The Same's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Just The Same (GB) ran 2 times without winning.
Is Just The Same still racing?
Just The Same (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 26 August 1992 at Tralee (IRE) in the The Earl Of Desmond Flat Race (result: pulled up, 7 ran), and has not run there since.
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