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Horse profile
I Say
- TrainerWilliam Haggas
- OwnerRaymond Tooth
- FamilyGrenzen
- Sex
- filly
- Foaled
- 2010
- Highest OR
- 79
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 1 win from 4 runs (25%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £5,364 GB
- Last official rating
- 76 (Flat)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 19 Sep 2013, Yarmouth (4/5)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- 28 Jul 2013, Carlisle
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Headgear | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 19 Sep 13 | Yarmouth | 4/5 | 5/2 | 5¾ | Kieren Fallon | William Haggas | Get On With Dan Hague Fillies' Handicap | Class 4 | Flat Turf | 1m3½f | Good | 9-2 | 76 | p | The Ducking Stool (GB) | £4,690 | 33 | 1/4 |
| 17 Aug 13 | Ripon | 4/7 | 5/2F | 3½ | Phillip Makin | William Haggas | British Stallion Studs EBF Fillies' Handicap | Class 4 | Flat Turf | 1m2f | Good | 9-5 | 79 | - | Nemushka (GB) | £6,301 | 20 | 0/5 |
| 28 Jul 13 | Carlisle | 1/8 | 4/11F | won 1 | Phillip Makin | William Haggas | Support Racing Welfare Maiden Stakes | Class 5 | Flat Turf | 1m1f | Soft | 9-0 | - | - | Magic Skyline (IRE) | £3,235 | 274 | 0/7 |
| 27 Oct 12 | Newbury | 2/14 | 20/1 | 2¾ | Joe Fanning | William Haggas | saxon-gate.com E B F Maiden Fillies' Stakes | Class 4 | Flat Turf | 1m | Heavy | 9-0 | - | - | Secret Gesture (GB) | £4,399 | - | 2/13 |
Get On With Dan Hague Fillies' Handicap
Class 41m3½fGood
All fields
- Date
- 19 Sep 13
- Course
- Yarmouth
- Pos
- 4/5
- SP
- 5/2
- Btn
- 5¾
- Jockey
- Kieren Fallon
- Trainer
- William Haggas
- Race
- Get On With Dan Hague Fillies' Handicap
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m3½f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 9-2
- OR
- 76
- Headgear
- p
- Winner / 2nd
- The Ducking Stool (GB)
- Winner prize
- £4,690
- Days
- 33
- Future form
- 1/4
British Stallion Studs EBF Fillies' Handicap
Class 41m2fGood
All fields
- Date
- 17 Aug 13
- Course
- Ripon
- Pos
- 4/7
- SP
- 5/2F
- Btn
- 3½
- Jockey
- Phillip Makin
- Trainer
- William Haggas
- Race
- British Stallion Studs EBF Fillies' Handicap
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m2f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 9-5
- OR
- 79
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Nemushka (GB)
- Winner prize
- £6,301
- Days
- 20
- Future form
- 0/5
Support Racing Welfare Maiden Stakes
Class 51m1fSoft
All fields
- Date
- 28 Jul 13
- Course
- Carlisle
- Pos
- 1/8
- SP
- 4/11F
- Btn
- won 1
- Jockey
- Phillip Makin
- Trainer
- William Haggas
- Race
- Support Racing Welfare Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m1f
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 9-0
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Magic Skyline (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,235
- Days
- 274
- Future form
- 0/7
saxon-gate.com E B F Maiden Fillies' Stakes
Class 41mHeavy
All fields
- Date
- 27 Oct 12
- Course
- Newbury
- Pos
- 2/14
- SP
- 20/1
- Btn
- 2¾
- Jockey
- Joe Fanning
- Trainer
- William Haggas
- Race
- saxon-gate.com E B F Maiden Fillies' Stakes
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m
- Going
- Heavy
- Wgt
- 9-0
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Secret Gesture (GB)
- Winner prize
- £4,399
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 2/13
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 19 Sep 13 | Yarmouth | Get On With Dan Hague Fillies' Handicap | 4/5 | Nullarbor Sky (IRE) | 3 | 20 May 14 | Yarmouth | Moulton Nurseries At Acle Handicap |
| 27 Oct 12 | Newbury | saxon-gate.com E B F Maiden Fillies' Stakes | 2/14 | Secret Gesture (GB) | 1 | 11 May 13 | Lingfield | Betfred "The Bonus King" Oaks Trial Stakes |
| 27 Oct 12 | Newbury | saxon-gate.com E B F Maiden Fillies' Stakes | 2/14 | Estiqaama (USA) | 9 | 4 Jun 13 | Yarmouth | norfolkattractions.co.uk Fillies' Handicap |
- 4/519 Sep 13 · Yarmouth
Get On With Dan Hague Fillies' Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 19 Sep 13
- Course
- Yarmouth
- Race
- Get On With Dan Hague Fillies' Handicap
- This horse
- 4/5
- Winner next time
- Nullarbor Sky (IRE)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 20 May 14
- At
- Yarmouth
- Race won
- Moulton Nurseries At Acle Handicap
- 2/1427 Oct 12 · Newbury
saxon-gate.com E B F Maiden Fillies' Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 27 Oct 12
- Course
- Newbury
- Race
- saxon-gate.com E B F Maiden Fillies' Stakes
- This horse
- 2/14
- Winner next time
- Secret Gesture (GB)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 11 May 13
- Race won
- Betfred "The Bonus King" Oaks Trial Stakes
- 2/1427 Oct 12 · Newbury
saxon-gate.com E B F Maiden Fillies' Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 27 Oct 12
- Course
- Newbury
- Race
- saxon-gate.com E B F Maiden Fillies' Stakes
- This horse
- 2/14
- Winner next time
- Estiqaama (USA)
- Their pos
- 9
- Won on
- 4 Jun 13
- At
- Yarmouth
- Race won
- norfolkattractions.co.uk Fillies' Handicap
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| William Haggas | 27 Oct 12 | 19 Sep 13 | 2/14 | 79 | 76 | 79 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | £5,364 | €0 |
William Haggas
- Trainer
- William Haggas
- First run
- 27 Oct 12
- Last run
- 19 Sep 13
- First run for yard
- 2/14
- OR first run
- 79
- OR last run
- 76
- Best OR
- 79
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,364
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | £5,364 | €0 | 79 | 27 Oct 12 | 19 Sep 13 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,364
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 79
- First run
- 27 Oct 12
- Last run
- 19 Sep 13
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat Turf | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | £5,364 | €0 |
Flat Turf
- Race type
- Flat Turf
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,364
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £821 | €0 | ||
| Soft | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £3,235 | €0 | ||
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,309 | €0 |
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £821
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Soft
- Going
- Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,235
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Heavy
- Going
- Heavy
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,309
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 7f to 1m | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,309 | €0 | ||
| 9f to 11f | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £3,707 | €0 | ||
| 12f to 13f | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £349 | €0 |
7f to 1m
- Distance
- 7f to 1m
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,309
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
9f to 11f
- Distance
- 9f to 11f
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,707
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
12f to 13f
- Distance
- 12f to 13f
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £349
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Carlisle | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £3,235 | €0 | ||
| Newbury | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,309 | €0 | ||
| Ripon | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £472 | €0 | ||
| Yarmouth | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £349 | €0 |
Carlisle
- Course
- Carlisle
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,235
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Newbury
- Course
- Newbury
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,309
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Ripon
- Course
- Ripon
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £472
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Yarmouth
- Course
- Yarmouth
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £349
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £2,130 | €0 | ||
| Class 5 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £3,235 | €0 |
Class 4
- Class
- Class 4
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,130
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 5
- Class
- Class 5
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,235
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6 to 8 runners | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £3,707 | €0 | ||
| 2 to 5 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £349 | €0 | ||
| 13 to 16 runners | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,309 | €0 |
6 to 8 runners
- Runners
- 6 to 8 runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,707
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
2 to 5 runners
- Runners
- 2 to 5 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £349
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
13 to 16 runners
- Runners
- 13 to 16 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,309
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| July | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £3,235 | €0 | ||
| August | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £472 | €0 | ||
| September | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £349 | €0 | ||
| October | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,309 | €0 |
July
- Month
- July
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,235
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
August
- Month
- August
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £472
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
September
- Month
- September
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £349
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
October
- Month
- October
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,309
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Phillip Makin | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £3,707 | €0 | ||
| Joe Fanning | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,309 | €0 | ||
| Kieren Fallon | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £349 | €0 |
Phillip Makin
- Jockey
- Phillip Makin
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,707
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Joe Fanning
- Jockey
- Joe Fanning
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,309
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Kieren Fallon
- Jockey
- Kieren Fallon
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £349
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| William Haggas | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | £5,364 | €0 |
William Haggas
- Trainer
- William Haggas
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,364
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 3 | 1 | 1 | 0 | £5,016 | €0 | ||
| p | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £349 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,016
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
p
- Headgear
- p
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £349
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,309 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £472 | €0 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £349 | €0 | ||
| 121 to 365 days | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £3,235 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,309
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £472
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £349
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
121 to 365 days
- Days since last run
- 121 to 365 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,235
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
By first-time headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| First time in any headgear | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £349 | €0 | ||
| First time cheekpieces | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £349 | €0 | ||
| No headgear | 3 | 1 | 1 | 0 | £5,016 | €0 |
First time in any headgear
- Headgear
- First time in any headgear
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £349
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
First time cheekpieces
- Headgear
- First time cheekpieces
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £349
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,016
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
A run can count in more than one "first time" row (e.g. first-time blinkers and first headgear of any kind). First time is judged against earlier British and Irish runs only.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchOratorio (IRE)
Parent · 1
- SireOratorio (IRE)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireDanehill (USA)
- Sire's damMahrah (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchLisieux Orchid (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireSadler's Wells (USA)
- Dam's damClear Issue (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireRiverman (USA)
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Lisieux Orchid (IRE) · by Sadler's Wells (USA) · 7 winners from 7 runners
- Clear Issue (USA) · by Riverman (USA) · 6 winners from 8 runners
- Grenzen (USA) · 5 winners from 6 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oratorio (IRE) | Lisieux Orchid (IRE) | Sadler's Wells (USA) | filly | Flat 8.9f · NH 2m1½f | Flat 9.6f · NH 2m2½f |
Oratorio (IRE)
- Sire
- Oratorio (IRE)
- Damsire
- Sadler's Wells (USA)
- Sex
- filly
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 8.9f · NH 2m1½f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 9.6f · NH 2m2½f
Progeny of Oratorio (IRE) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 4,098 | 443 | 1,188 | 4 | 1 | ||
| At 9f to 11f | 1,128 | 132 | 349 | 2 | 1 | ||
| On Soft going | 355 | 35 | 84 | 1 | 1 | ||
| At 9f to 11f on Soft going | 84 | 8 | 21 | 1 | 1 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 4,098
- Wins
- 443
- Placed
- 1,188
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 4
- This horse wins
- 1
At 9f to 11f
- Condition
- At 9f to 11f
- Runs
- 1,128
- Wins
- 132
- Placed
- 349
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 1
On Soft going
- Condition
- On Soft going
- Runs
- 355
- Wins
- 35
- Placed
- 84
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 1
At 9f to 11f on Soft going
- Condition
- At 9f to 11f on Soft going
- Runs
- 84
- Wins
- 8
- Placed
- 21
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 1
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Oratorio (IRE) × Sadler's Wells mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 18 | 10 | 2 | 201 | 28 | 51 | £312,987 | €237,196 | ||
| National Hunt | 8 | 2 | 0 | 71 | 9 | 14 | £35,558 | €2,160 | ||
| All runs | 19 | 10 | 2 | 272 | 37 | 65 | £348,545 | €239,356 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 18
- Winners
- 10
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 2
- Runs
- 201
- Wins
- 28
- 2nd/3rd
- 51
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £312,987
- Prize IRE (€)
- €237,196
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 8
- Winners
- 2
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 71
- Wins
- 9
- 2nd/3rd
- 14
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £35,558
- Prize IRE (€)
- €2,160
All runs
- Code
- All runs
- Runners
- 19
- Winners
- 10
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 2
- Runs
- 272
- Wins
- 37
- 2nd/3rd
- 65
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £348,545
- Prize IRE (€)
- €239,356
All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Best win | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Beethoven (IRE) | 15 | 3 | 2 | Group/Grade 1 | £218,746 | €175,446 |
| Hawke (IRE) | 5 | 2 | 1 | Listed | £0 | €61,750 |
| Saharia (IRE) | 46 | 10 | 0 | - | £30,819 | €0 |
| Jolly Roger (IRE) | 47 | 9 | 0 | - | £32,686 | €0 |
| Focail Maith (GB) | 57 | 6 | 0 | - | £32,916 | €1,600 |
| Wadacre Sarko (GB) | 8 | 2 | 0 | - | £8,613 | €0 |
| Capella's Song (IRE) | 10 | 2 | 0 | - | £7,462 | €0 |
| I Say (IRE) | 4 | 1 | 0 | - | £5,364 | €0 |
| Crow Down (IRE) | 8 | 1 | 0 | - | £4,499 | €0 |
| Focail Mear (GB) | 16 | 1 | 0 | - | £3,869 | €0 |
| Lady Sefton (GB) | 1 | 0 | 0 | - | £0 | €0 |
| Be Excellent (GB) | 2 | 0 | 0 | - | £0 | €0 |
Beethoven (IRE)
- Horse
- Beethoven (IRE)
- Runs
- 15
- Wins
- 3
- Black-type wins
- 2
- Best win
- Group/Grade 1
- Prize GB (£)
- £218,746
- Prize IRE (€)
- €175,446
Hawke (IRE)
- Horse
- Hawke (IRE)
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 1
- Best win
- Listed
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €61,750
Saharia (IRE)
- Horse
- Saharia (IRE)
- Runs
- 46
- Wins
- 10
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £30,819
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Jolly Roger (IRE)
- Horse
- Jolly Roger (IRE)
- Runs
- 47
- Wins
- 9
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £32,686
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Focail Maith (GB)
- Horse
- Focail Maith (GB)
- Runs
- 57
- Wins
- 6
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £32,916
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,600
Wadacre Sarko (GB)
- Horse
- Wadacre Sarko (GB)
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £8,613
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Capella's Song (IRE)
- Horse
- Capella's Song (IRE)
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £7,462
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
I Say (IRE)
- Horse
- I Say (IRE)
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,364
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Crow Down (IRE)
- Horse
- Crow Down (IRE)
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,499
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Focail Mear (GB)
- Horse
- Focail Mear (GB)
- Runs
- 16
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,869
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Lady Sefton (GB)
- Horse
- Lady Sefton (GB)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Be Excellent (GB)
- Horse
- Be Excellent (GB)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 76 | 79 | 76 | 2 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 76
- Highest OR
- 79
- Lowest OR
- 76
- Rated runs
- 2
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 76 | 76 | 0 | 79 | -3 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 76
- OR last run
- 76
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 79
- v highest
- -3
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 7 winners from 7 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Oratorio (IRE) out of Lisieux Orchid (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Cadeaux Genereux (GB)
- Notalossonya (IRE)2W · 7R
By Dalakhani (IRE)
- Wolf Heart (IRE)1W · 19R
By Lawman (FR)
- Law Keeper (IRE)1W · 6R
By Clodovil (IRE)
- Tigrilla (IRE)1W · 6R
By Mayson (GB)
- Mordoree (IRE)1W · 8R
By Kodiac (GB)
- Orliko (IRE)1W · 13R
Female line
- 1Lisieux Orchid (IRE) · by Sadler's Wells (USA)
- 2Clear Issue (USA) · by Riverman (USA)
- 3Grenzen (USA)
Notable relatives
First cousin once removed
- Refuse To Bend (IRE)7W · 12R · 4 G1
- Vital Plot (USA)5W · 51R · 1 black-type
- Media Puzzle (USA)5W · 22R · 2 black-type
In brief
When was I Say foaled?
I Say (IRE) was foaled in 2010.
Who are the sire and dam of I Say?
I Say (IRE) is by Oratorio (IRE) out of Lisieux Orchid (IRE), a daughter of Sadler's Wells (USA).
Who trained I Say?
I Say (IRE) was trained by William Haggas and owned by Raymond Tooth at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is I Say's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, I Say (IRE) won 1 of 4 races (25%).
What is I Say's biggest win?
I Say (IRE)'s only win in Britain or Ireland came in the Support Racing Welfare Maiden Stakes at Carlisle on 28 July 2013.
Has I Say ever been beaten?
I Say (IRE) was beaten 3 times in 4 runs in Britain and Ireland, the first time on 27 October 2012 at Newbury (2nd of 14).
What was I Say's official rating?
I Say (IRE) was last officially rated 76 on the Flat (career high 79).
Is I Say still racing?
I Say (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 19 September 2013 at Yarmouth in the Get On With Dan Hague Fillies' Handicap, finishing 4th of 5, and has not run there since.
Is I Say related to any top horses?
I Say (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Refuse To Bend (IRE) (first cousin once removed, Group 1 winner), Vital Plot (USA) (first cousin once removed, Grade 3 winner) and Media Puzzle (USA) (first cousin once removed, Listed winner), from the Grenzen (USA) family.
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