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Great Promises (IRE) silks

Horse profile

Great Promises

Sex
mare
Foaled
2008
Highest OR
84
Record (GB & IRE)
0 wins from 4 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£0
Last official rating
84 (Jumps)
Last run (GB & IRE)
16 Nov 2013, Punchestown (IRE) (PU/13)
Last win (GB & IRE)
Never won
Recent form
131014PU

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtORWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
16 Nov 13Punchestown (IRE)PU/1333/1-Ian McCarthyDavid Martin KellyFollow Punchestown On Facebook & Twitter Novice Handicap HurdleHandicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mYielding10-084Director's Forum (IRE)€6,900962/12
12 Aug 13Ballinrobe (IRE)14/1550/1distJohn CullenDavid Martin KellyCostello McDermott Maiden HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mGood to Firm10-11-Massini's Trap (IRE)€5,5203461/13
31 Aug 12Down Royal (IRE)10/1450/1distIan McCarthyDavid Martin KellyDale Farm Maiden HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mGood to Soft10-6-Sizing Machine (IRE)€5,175181/12
13 Aug 12Ballinrobe (IRE)13/1450/1distRobert JonesDavid Martin KellyCostello McDermott Maiden HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mYielding10-8-Font Of Wisdom (IRE)€5,520-1/10

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
16 Nov 13Punchestown (IRE)Follow Punchestown On Facebook & Twitter Novice Handicap HurdlePU/13Hop In (IRE)215 Dec 13Navan (IRE)Beauparc Handicap Hurdle
16 Nov 13Punchestown (IRE)Follow Punchestown On Facebook & Twitter Novice Handicap HurdlePU/13Balrath Hope (IRE)523 Nov 13Gowran Park (IRE)Gowran Park Racing Club Annual Dinner Handicap Hurdle
12 Aug 13Ballinrobe (IRE)Costello McDermott Maiden Hurdle14/15Milt Yarberry (GB)823 Aug 13Kilbeggan (IRE)Follow Kilbeggan On Facebook Maiden Hurdle
31 Aug 12Down Royal (IRE)Dale Farm Maiden Hurdle10/14Defence Of Duress (IRE)223 Sep 12Gowran Park (IRE)Thomastown Maiden Hurdle
13 Aug 12Ballinrobe (IRE)Costello McDermott Maiden Hurdle13/14Sizing Machine (IRE)431 Aug 12Down Royal (IRE)Dale Farm Maiden Hurdle

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardOR first runOR last runBest ORRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
David Martin Kelly13 Aug 1216 Nov 1313/1484848440000.0%0.0%£0€0
David Martin Kelly
First run
13 Aug 12
Last run
16 Nov 13
First run for yard
13/14
OR first run
84
OR last run
84
Best OR
84
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)Best ORFirst runLast run
National Hunt40000.0%0.0%£0€08413 Aug 1216 Nov 13
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Best OR
84
First run
13 Aug 12
Last run
16 Nov 13

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Hurdle40000.0%0.0%£0€0
Hurdle
Race type
Hurdle
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Good to Firm10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Good to Soft10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Yielding20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Good to Firm
Going
Good to Firm
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good to Soft
Going
Good to Soft
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Yielding
Going
Yielding
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
2m to 2m1f40000.0%0.0%£0€0
2m to 2m1f
Distance
2m to 2m1f
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Ballinrobe (IRE)20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Down Royal (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Punchestown (IRE)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Ballinrobe (IRE)
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Down Royal (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Punchestown (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Non-handicap (unclassified)30000.0%0.0%£0€0
Handicap (unclassified)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Class
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Handicap (unclassified)
Class
Handicap (unclassified)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
13 to 16 runners40000.0%0.0%£0€0
13 to 16 runners
Runners
13 to 16 runners
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
August30000.0%0.0%£0€0
November10000.0%0.0%£0€0
August
Month
August
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
November
Month
November
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Ian McCarthy20000.0%0.0%£0€0
John Cullen10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Robert Jones10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Ian McCarthy
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
John Cullen
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Robert Jones
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
David Martin Kelly40000.0%0.0%£0€0
David Martin Kelly
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear40000.0%0.0%£0€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10000.0%0.0%£0€0
15 to 30 days10000.0%0.0%£0€0
61 to 120 days10000.0%0.0%£0€0
121 to 365 days10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
15 to 30 days
Days since last run
15 to 30 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
61 to 120 days
Days since last run
61 to 120 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
121 to 365 days
Days since last run
121 to 365 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchGreat Palm (USA)

Parent · 1

  1. SireGreat Palm (USA)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireManila (USA)
  2. Sire's damHat Tab Girl (USA)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchOld Promises (IRE)

Parent · 1

  1. DamOld Promises (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireOld Vic (GB)
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseGreat Promises (IRE)
Sexmare
Foaled2008
SireGreat Palm (USA)
DamOld Promises (IRE)
DamsireOld Vic (GB)
Sire's sireManila (USA)
Sire's damHat Tab Girl (USA)
Dam's produce1 winners from 2 runners
Notable siblingPromising Anshan (IRE)

Female line

  1. Old Promises (IRE) · 1 winners from 2 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Great Palm (USA)Old Promises (IRE)Old Vic (GB)mareFlat 9.7f · NH 2m2½fFlat 11.3f · NH 2m4f
Great Palm (USA)
Sex
mare
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 9.7f · NH 2m2½f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 11.3f · NH 2m4f

Progeny of Great Palm (USA) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs2,0091343806.7%18.9%40
At 2m to 2m1f992591765.9%17.7%40
On Good to soft or yielding going36926757.0%20.3%30
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going17613357.4%19.9%30
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
2,009
Wins
134
Placed
380
Win %
6.7%
Place %
18.9%
This horse runs
4
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f
Runs
992
Wins
59
Placed
176
Win %
5.9%
Place %
17.7%
This horse runs
4
This horse wins
0
On Good to soft or yielding going
Condition
On Good to soft or yielding going
Runs
369
Wins
26
Placed
75
Win %
7.0%
Place %
20.3%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
Runs
176
Wins
13
Placed
35
Win %
7.4%
Place %
19.9%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Great Palm (USA) × Old Vic mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt2150.0%0102120.0%£13,014€0
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
2
Winners
1
Winners %
50.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
10
Wins
2
2nd/3rd
1
Win %
20.0%
Prize GB (£)
£13,014
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Clash Duff (IRE)620£13,014€0
Great Promises (IRE)400£0€0
Clash Duff (IRE)
Runs
6
Wins
2
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£13,014
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Great Promises (IRE)
Runs
4
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Ratings

Official ratings

CodeCurrent ORHighest ORLowest ORRated runs
National Hunt8484841
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
84
Highest OR
84
Lowest OR
84
Rated runs
1

Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.

Official rating by run

DateCourseCodeORPos
16 Nov 13Punchestown (IRE)NH84PU/13

Current mark v winning marks

CodeCurrent OROR last runChangeHighest ORv highest
National Hunt84840840
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
84
OR last run
84
Change
0
Highest OR
84
v highest
0

Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.

Family

Dam summary

Old Promises (IRE)

G1 winners
0
Produce
1 winners from 2 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Great Palm (USA) out of Old Promises (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Anshan (GB)

Female line

  1. 1Old Promises (IRE)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

In brief

When was Great Promises foaled?

Great Promises (IRE) was foaled in 2008.

Who are the sire and dam of Great Promises?

Great Promises (IRE) is by Great Palm (USA) out of Old Promises (IRE), a daughter of Old Vic (GB).

Who trained Great Promises?

Great Promises (IRE) was trained by David Martin Kelly and owned by Treanrevagh Racing Syndicate at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Great Promises' race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Great Promises (IRE) ran 4 times without winning.

What was Great Promises' official rating?

Great Promises (IRE) was last officially rated 84 over jumps (also the career high).

Is Great Promises still racing?

Great Promises (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 16 November 2013 at Punchestown (IRE) in the Follow Punchestown On Facebook & Twitter Novice Handicap Hurdle (result: pulled up, 13 ran), and has not run there since.

What is Great Promises' record at Ballinrobe (IRE)?

Great Promises (IRE) ran most often at Ballinrobe (IRE), with no wins from 2 runs there.

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