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Horse profile
Dont Say That
- TrainerJ P Dodds
- OwnerThe Four Farmers
- FamilyKix
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 1992
- Highest OR
- 67
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 8 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last official rating
- 59 (Jumps)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 13 Apr 2002, Hexham (PU/12)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Recent form
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Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Headgear | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 13 Apr 02 | Hexham | PU/12 | 25/1 | - | Mr M Beady | J P Dodds | S.I.T.A Amateur Riders' Selling Handicap Chase Class G | Class 5 | Chase | 3m | Good to Firm | 9-10 | 59 | t | Kings Minstral (IRE) | £2,534 | 131 | 0/9 |
| 3 Dec 01 | Kelso | F/11 | 100/1 | - | C McCormack | J P Dodds | Jooglie Brig Novices' Chase Class E | Class 4 | Chase | 2m6½f | Good to Soft | 10-12 | - | - | Errol Glamohr (GB) | £3,315 | 137 | 0/10 |
| 19 Jul 01 | Sedgefield | PU/14 | 100/1 | - | Robert Thornton | J P Dodds | Darlington & Stockton Times Novices' Hurdle Class E | Class 4 | Hurdle | 2m5f | Good to Firm | 11-0 | 67 | t | Little Flora (GB) | £2,471 | 11 | 0/13 |
| 8 Jul 01 | Market Rasen | 8/14 | 50/1 | dist | Robert Thornton | J P Dodds | Bill Kitchin Calls It A Day Novices' Hurdle (Div I) | Class 3 | Hurdle | 2m3½f | Good | 10-13 | - | t | Baron's Pharaoh (IRE) | £3,559 | 14 | 0/13 |
| 24 Jun 01 | Perth | PU/10 | 33/1 | - | Robert Thornton | J P Dodds | Naylor Drainage Maiden Hurdle (Div I) | Class 3 | Hurdle | 2m4f | Good to Firm | 11-2 | - | - | Little Elle (GB) | £3,406 | 935 | 0/6 |
| 2 Dec 98 | Catterick | 16/19 | 33/1 | dist | Peter Niven | J P Dodds | Streetlam 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class E | Class 4 | Hurdle | 2m3½f | Good | 10-10 | - | - | John Bush (IRE) | £2,640 | 17 | 0/17 |
| 15 Nov 98 | Ayr | PU/15 | 100/1 | - | L Temple | J P Dodds | Carrick Hills 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class E | Class 4 | Hurdle | 2m6f | Good to Soft | 10-3 | - | - | Cope With Reality (IRE) | £2,495 | 17 | 2/14 |
| 29 Oct 98 | Sedgefield | 7/12 | 33/1 | dist | L Temple | J P Dodds | Quarrington Standard National Hunt Flat Race Class H | Class 6 | NH Flat | 2m1f | Good to Soft | 10-11 | - | - | WestertonI (IRE) | £1,256 | - | 1/8 |
S.I.T.A Amateur Riders' Selling Handicap Chase Class G
Class 53mGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 13 Apr 02
- Course
- Hexham
- Pos
- PU/12
- SP
- 25/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Mr M Beady
- Trainer
- J P Dodds
- Race
- S.I.T.A Amateur Riders' Selling Handicap Chase Class G
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Chase
- Dist
- 3m
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 9-10
- OR
- 59
- Headgear
- t
- Winner / 2nd
- Kings Minstral (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £2,534
- Days
- 131
- Future form
- 0/9
Jooglie Brig Novices' Chase Class E
Class 42m6½fGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 3 Dec 01
- Course
- Kelso
- Pos
- F/11
- SP
- 100/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- C McCormack
- Trainer
- J P Dodds
- Race
- Jooglie Brig Novices' Chase Class E
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Chase
- Dist
- 2m6½f
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 10-12
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Errol Glamohr (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,315
- Days
- 137
- Future form
- 0/10
Darlington & Stockton Times Novices' Hurdle Class E
Class 42m5fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 19 Jul 01
- Course
- Sedgefield
- Pos
- PU/14
- SP
- 100/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Robert Thornton
- Trainer
- J P Dodds
- Race
- Darlington & Stockton Times Novices' Hurdle Class E
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m5f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 11-0
- OR
- 67
- Headgear
- t
- Winner / 2nd
- Little Flora (GB)
- Winner prize
- £2,471
- Days
- 11
- Future form
- 0/13
Bill Kitchin Calls It A Day Novices' Hurdle (Div I)
Class 32m3½fGood
All fields
- Date
- 8 Jul 01
- Course
- Market Rasen
- Pos
- 8/14
- SP
- 50/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Robert Thornton
- Trainer
- J P Dodds
- Race
- Bill Kitchin Calls It A Day Novices' Hurdle (Div I)
- Class
- Class 3
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m3½f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 10-13
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- t
- Winner / 2nd
- Baron's Pharaoh (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,559
- Days
- 14
- Future form
- 0/13
Naylor Drainage Maiden Hurdle (Div I)
Class 32m4fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 24 Jun 01
- Course
- Perth
- Pos
- PU/10
- SP
- 33/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Robert Thornton
- Trainer
- J P Dodds
- Race
- Naylor Drainage Maiden Hurdle (Div I)
- Class
- Class 3
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m4f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 11-2
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Little Elle (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,406
- Days
- 935
- Future form
- 0/6
Streetlam 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class E
Class 42m3½fGood
All fields
- Date
- 2 Dec 98
- Course
- Catterick
- Pos
- 16/19
- SP
- 33/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Peter Niven
- Trainer
- J P Dodds
- Race
- Streetlam 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class E
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m3½f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 10-10
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- John Bush (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £2,640
- Days
- 17
- Future form
- 0/17
Carrick Hills 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class E
Class 42m6fGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 15 Nov 98
- Course
- Ayr
- Pos
- PU/15
- SP
- 100/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- L Temple
- Trainer
- J P Dodds
- Race
- Carrick Hills 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class E
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m6f
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 10-3
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Cope With Reality (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £2,495
- Days
- 17
- Future form
- 2/14
Quarrington Standard National Hunt Flat Race Class H
Class 62m1fGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 29 Oct 98
- Course
- Sedgefield
- Pos
- 7/12
- SP
- 33/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- L Temple
- Trainer
- J P Dodds
- Race
- Quarrington Standard National Hunt Flat Race Class H
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m1f
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 10-11
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- WestertonI (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £1,256
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 1/8
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 15 Nov 98 | Ayr | Carrick Hills 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class E | PU/15 | Quick March I (GB) | 2 | 2 Jan 99 | Ayr | Ayr New Year 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class E |
| 15 Nov 98 | Ayr | Carrick Hills 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class E | PU/15 | Sir Bob I (IRE) | 3 | 28 Nov 98 | Newcastle | Northgate Truck Rental Novices' Hurdle Class E |
| 29 Oct 98 | Sedgefield | Quarrington Standard National Hunt Flat Race Class H | 7/12 | Cope With Reality (IRE) | 2 | 15 Nov 98 | Ayr | Carrick Hills 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class E |
- PU/1515 Nov 98 · Ayr
Carrick Hills 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class E
All fields
- Date
- 15 Nov 98
- Course
- Ayr
- Race
- Carrick Hills 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class E
- This horse
- PU/15
- Winner next time
- Quick March I (GB)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 2 Jan 99
- At
- Ayr
- Race won
- Ayr New Year 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class E
- PU/1515 Nov 98 · Ayr
Carrick Hills 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class E
All fields
- Date
- 15 Nov 98
- Course
- Ayr
- Race
- Carrick Hills 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class E
- This horse
- PU/15
- Winner next time
- Sir Bob I (IRE)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 28 Nov 98
- Race won
- Northgate Truck Rental Novices' Hurdle Class E
- 7/1229 Oct 98 · Sedgefield
Quarrington Standard National Hunt Flat Race Class H
All fields
- Date
- 29 Oct 98
- Course
- Sedgefield
- Race
- Quarrington Standard National Hunt Flat Race Class H
- This horse
- 7/12
- Winner next time
- Cope With Reality (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 15 Nov 98
- At
- Ayr
- Race won
- Carrick Hills 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class E
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| J P Dodds | 29 Oct 98 | 13 Apr 02 | 7/12 | 67 | 59 | 67 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
J P Dodds
- Trainer
- J P Dodds
- First run
- 29 Oct 98
- Last run
- 13 Apr 02
- First run for yard
- 7/12
- OR first run
- 67
- OR last run
- 59
- Best OR
- 67
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 67 | 29 Oct 98 | 13 Apr 02 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 67
- First run
- 29 Oct 98
- Last run
- 13 Apr 02
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Chase | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| NH Flat | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Hurdle
- Race type
- Hurdle
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Chase
- Race type
- Chase
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
NH Flat
- Race type
- NH Flat
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Good | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Good to Soft | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Good to Firm
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good to Soft
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m to 2m1f | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 2m2f to 2m5f | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 2m6f to 3m1f | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
2m to 2m1f
- Distance
- 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
2m2f to 2m5f
- Distance
- 2m2f to 2m5f
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
2m6f to 3m1f
- Distance
- 2m6f to 3m1f
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sedgefield | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Ayr | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Catterick | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Hexham | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Kelso | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Market Rasen | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Perth | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Sedgefield
- Course
- Sedgefield
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Ayr
- Course
- Ayr
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Catterick
- Course
- Catterick
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Hexham
- Course
- Hexham
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Kelso
- Course
- Kelso
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Market Rasen
- Course
- Market Rasen
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Perth
- Course
- Perth
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 3 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Class 4 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Class 5 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Class 6 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Class 3
- Class
- Class 3
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 4
- Class
- Class 4
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 5
- Class
- Class 5
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 6
- Class
- Class 6
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 9 to 12 runners | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 13 to 16 runners | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 17+ runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
13 to 16 runners
- Runners
- 13 to 16 runners
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
17+ runners
- Runners
- 17+ runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| April | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| June | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| July | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| October | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| November | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| December | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
April
- Month
- April
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
June
- Month
- June
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
July
- Month
- July
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
October
- Month
- October
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
November
- Month
- November
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
December
- Month
- December
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Robert Thornton | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| L Temple | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| C McCormack | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Mr M Beady | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Peter Niven | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Robert Thornton
- Jockey
- Robert Thornton
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
L Temple
- Jockey
- L Temple
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
C McCormack
- Jockey
- C McCormack
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Mr M Beady
- Jockey
- Mr M Beady
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Peter Niven
- Jockey
- Peter Niven
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| J P Dodds | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
J P Dodds
- Trainer
- J P Dodds
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| t | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
t
- Headgear
- t
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 8 to 14 days | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 121 to 365 days | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Over a year | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
8 to 14 days
- Days since last run
- 8 to 14 days
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
121 to 365 days
- Days since last run
- 121 to 365 days
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Over a year
- Days since last run
- Over a year
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
By first-time headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| First time in any headgear | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| First time tongue strap | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Headgear, all items worn before | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| No headgear | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
First time in any headgear
- Headgear
- First time in any headgear
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
First time tongue strap
- Headgear
- First time tongue strap
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear, all items worn before
- Headgear
- Headgear, all items worn before
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
A run can count in more than one "first time" row (e.g. first-time blinkers and first headgear of any kind). First time is judged against earlier British and Irish runs only.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchPhardante (FR)
Parent · 1
- SirePhardante (FR)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchKix (GB)
Parent · 1
- DamKix (GB)
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireKing Emperor
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Not traced
Not traced
King Emperor
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
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Breeding card
HorseDont Say That (IRE)
Sexgelding
Foaled1992
SirePhardante (FR)
DamKix (GB)
DamsireKing Emperor
Dam's produce0 winners from 6 runners
Notable siblingDragon Fly (IRE)
Female line
- Kix (GB) · 0 winners from 6 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Phardante (FR) | Kix (GB) | King Emperor | gelding | Flat 12.6f · NH 2m3½f | Flat 9.7f · NH 2m½f |
Phardante (FR)
- Sire
- Phardante (FR)
- Dam
- Kix (GB)
- Damsire
- King Emperor
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 12.6f · NH 2m3½f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 9.7f · NH 2m½f
Progeny of Phardante (FR) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 10,132 | 901 | 2,567 | 8 | 0 | ||
| At 2m2f to 2m5f | 3,604 | 343 | 904 | 4 | 0 | ||
| On Good to soft or yielding going | 2,082 | 137 | 478 | 3 | 0 | ||
| At 2m2f to 2m5f on Good to soft or yielding going | 733 | 51 | 158 | 0 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 10,132
- Wins
- 901
- Placed
- 2,567
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 8
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m2f to 2m5f
- Condition
- At 2m2f to 2m5f
- Runs
- 3,604
- Wins
- 343
- Placed
- 904
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 4
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good to soft or yielding going
- Condition
- On Good to soft or yielding going
- Runs
- 2,082
- Wins
- 137
- Placed
- 478
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Good to soft or yielding going
- Condition
- At 2m2f to 2m5f on Good to soft or yielding going
- Runs
- 733
- Wins
- 51
- Placed
- 158
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 0
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Phardante (FR) × King Emperor mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 2 | 0 | 0 | 12 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 2
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 12
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dragon Fly (IRE) | 4 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
| Dont Say That (IRE) | 8 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Dragon Fly (IRE)
- Horse
- Dragon Fly (IRE)
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Dont Say That (IRE)
- Horse
- Dont Say That (IRE)
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 59 | 67 | 59 | 2 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 59
- Highest OR
- 67
- Lowest OR
- 59
- Rated runs
- 2
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
| Date | Course | Code | OR | Change | Pos |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 13 Apr 02 | Hexham | NH | 59 | -8 | PU/12 |
| 19 Jul 01 | Sedgefield | NH | 67 | - | PU/14 |
- PU/1213 Apr 02 · Hexham
All fields
- Date
- 13 Apr 02
- Course
- Hexham
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 59
- Change
- -8
- Pos
- PU/12
- PU/1419 Jul 01 · Sedgefield
All fields
- Date
- 19 Jul 01
- Course
- Sedgefield
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 67
- Change
- -
- Pos
- PU/14
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 59 | 59 | 0 | 67 | -8 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 59
- OR last run
- 59
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 67
- v highest
- -8
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 0 winners from 6 runners
Full siblings
- Dragon Fly (IRE)0W · 4R
Half siblings
By Saher (GB)
- Just For Kicks (GB)0W · 23R
By Crofter (USA)
- Fix It (GB)0W · 19R
By Heraldiste (USA)
- Valere Knight (IRE)0W · 4R
By Doubletour (USA)
- Moran Court (IRE)0W · 6R
Female line
- 1Kix (GB)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Dont Say That foaled?
Dont Say That (IRE) was foaled in 1992.
Who are the sire and dam of Dont Say That?
Dont Say That (IRE) is by Phardante (FR) out of Kix (GB), a daughter of King Emperor.
Who trained Dont Say That?
Dont Say That (IRE) was trained by J P Dodds and owned by The Four Farmers at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Dont Say That's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Dont Say That (IRE) ran 8 times without winning.
What was Dont Say That's official rating?
Dont Say That (IRE) was last officially rated 59 over jumps (career high 67).
Is Dont Say That still racing?
Dont Say That (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 13 April 2002 at Hexham in the S.I.T.A Amateur Riders' Selling Handicap Chase Class G (result: pulled up, 12 ran), and has not run there since.
What is Dont Say That's record at Sedgefield?
Dont Say That (IRE) ran most often at Sedgefield, with no wins from 2 runs there.
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