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Horse profile
Debater
- TrainerHugo Palmer
- OwnerIsa Salman Al Khalifa
- FamilyTrikymia
- Sex
- filly
- Foaled
- 2020
- Colour
- brown
- Highest OR
- 67
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 8 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £744 GB
- Last official rating
- 54 (Flat)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 12 Oct 2023, Ayr (9/10)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Recent form
455667129
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Headgear | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 12 Oct 23 | Ayr | 9/10 | 40/1 | 17¾ | Ben Curtis | Hugo Palmer | Virgin Bet Every Saturday Money Back Handicap | Class 6 | Flat Turf | 7f | Heavy | 9-3 | 54 | b | Sassoon (GB) | £1,719 | 38 | 1/8 |
| 4 Sep 23 | Windsor | 12/13 | 8/1 | 9½ | Oisin Murphy | Hugo Palmer | CAE & SBS In Partnership Handicap | Class 6 | Flat Turf | 6f | Good to Firm | 9-9 | 57 | v | Time Patrol (GB) | £3,768 | 77 | 3/11 |
| 19 Jun 23 | Carlisle | 7/8 | 8/1 | 15½ | Joe Fanning | Hugo Palmer | racingtv.com Fillies' Handicap | Class 5 | Flat Turf | 7f | Good to Soft | 9-0 | 61 | t | Platinum Girl (GB) | £4,187 | 35 | 0/7 |
| 15 May 23 | Wolverhampton (AW) | 6/10 | 15/2 | 4 | Harry Davies | Hugo Palmer | Racing Welfare - Mental Health Awareness Week Handicap | Class 5 | Flat AW | 6f | Standard | 8-10 | 64 | - | Absolutelyflawless (GB) | £3,873 | 206 | 0/9 |
| 21 Oct 22 | Newcastle (AW) | 6/8 | 6/1 | 7¾ | Andrew Mullen | Hugo Palmer | Talksport Download The App Nursery Handicap | Class 6 | Flat AW | 5f | Standard to Slow | 9-11 | 67 | tp | Azucena (IRE) | £3,726 | 36 | 0/4 |
| 15 Sep 22 | Yarmouth | 5/10 | 11/1 | 7 | Rossa Ryan | Hugo Palmer | British EBF Fillies' Novice Stakes (Div I) | Class 4 | Flat Turf | 6f | Good | 9-2 | - | - | Ananda (GB) | £5,373 | 71 | 2/8 |
| 6 Jul 22 | Kempton (AW) | 5/9 | 4/1 | 8 | Harry Davies | Hugo Palmer | Unibet/British Stallion Studs EBF Fillies' Novice Stakes | Class 4 | Flat AW | 6f | Standard to Slow | 8-11 | - | - | Kinta (IRE) | £5,400 | 23 | 0/8 |
| 13 Jun 22 | Nottingham | 4/9 | 5/2F | 2¾ | Ross Coakley | Hugo Palmer | EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes | Class 5 | Flat Turf | 6f | Good to Firm | 9-2 | - | - | Miska (IRE) | £3,780 | - | 0/8 |
Virgin Bet Every Saturday Money Back Handicap
Class 67fHeavy
All fields
- Date
- 12 Oct 23
- Course
- Ayr
- Pos
- 9/10
- SP
- 40/1
- Btn
- 17¾
- Jockey
- Ben Curtis
- Trainer
- Hugo Palmer
- Race
- Virgin Bet Every Saturday Money Back Handicap
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 7f
- Going
- Heavy
- Wgt
- 9-3
- OR
- 54
- Headgear
- b
- Winner / 2nd
- Sassoon (GB)
- Winner prize
- £1,719
- Days
- 38
- Future form
- 1/8
CAE & SBS In Partnership Handicap
Class 66fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 4 Sep 23
- Course
- Windsor
- Pos
- 12/13
- SP
- 8/1
- Btn
- 9½
- Jockey
- Oisin Murphy
- Trainer
- Hugo Palmer
- Race
- CAE & SBS In Partnership Handicap
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 9-9
- OR
- 57
- Headgear
- v
- Winner / 2nd
- Time Patrol (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,768
- Days
- 77
- Future form
- 3/11
racingtv.com Fillies' Handicap
Class 57fGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 19 Jun 23
- Course
- Carlisle
- Pos
- 7/8
- SP
- 8/1
- Btn
- 15½
- Jockey
- Joe Fanning
- Trainer
- Hugo Palmer
- Race
- racingtv.com Fillies' Handicap
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 7f
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 9-0
- OR
- 61
- Headgear
- t
- Winner / 2nd
- Platinum Girl (GB)
- Winner prize
- £4,187
- Days
- 35
- Future form
- 0/7
- 6/1015 May 23 · Wolverhampton (AW)15/2
Racing Welfare - Mental Health Awareness Week Handicap
Class 56fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 15 May 23
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Pos
- 6/10
- SP
- 15/2
- Btn
- 4
- Jockey
- Harry Davies
- Trainer
- Hugo Palmer
- Race
- Racing Welfare - Mental Health Awareness Week Handicap
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 8-10
- OR
- 64
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Absolutelyflawless (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,873
- Days
- 206
- Future form
- 0/9
- 6/821 Oct 22 · Newcastle (AW)6/1
Talksport Download The App Nursery Handicap
Class 65fStandard to Slow
All fields
- Date
- 21 Oct 22
- Course
- Newcastle (AW)
- Pos
- 6/8
- SP
- 6/1
- Btn
- 7¾
- Jockey
- Andrew Mullen
- Trainer
- Hugo Palmer
- Race
- Talksport Download The App Nursery Handicap
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 5f
- Going
- Standard to Slow
- Wgt
- 9-11
- OR
- 67
- Headgear
- tp
- Winner / 2nd
- Azucena (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,726
- Days
- 36
- Future form
- 0/4
British EBF Fillies' Novice Stakes (Div I)
Class 46fGood
All fields
- Date
- 15 Sep 22
- Course
- Yarmouth
- Pos
- 5/10
- SP
- 11/1
- Btn
- 7
- Jockey
- Rossa Ryan
- Trainer
- Hugo Palmer
- Race
- British EBF Fillies' Novice Stakes (Div I)
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 9-2
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Ananda (GB)
- Winner prize
- £5,373
- Days
- 71
- Future form
- 2/8
- 5/96 Jul 22 · Kempton (AW)4/1
Unibet/British Stallion Studs EBF Fillies' Novice Stakes
Class 46fStandard to Slow
All fields
- Date
- 6 Jul 22
- Course
- Kempton (AW)
- Pos
- 5/9
- SP
- 4/1
- Btn
- 8
- Jockey
- Harry Davies
- Trainer
- Hugo Palmer
- Race
- Unibet/British Stallion Studs EBF Fillies' Novice Stakes
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Standard to Slow
- Wgt
- 8-11
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Kinta (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £5,400
- Days
- 23
- Future form
- 0/8
EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes
Class 56fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 13 Jun 22
- Course
- Nottingham
- Pos
- 4/9
- SP
- 5/2F
- Btn
- 2¾
- Jockey
- Ross Coakley
- Trainer
- Hugo Palmer
- Race
- EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 9-2
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Miska (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,780
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 0/8
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 12 Oct 23 | Ayr | Virgin Bet Every Saturday Money Back Handicap | 9/10 | Zebra Star (IRE) | 4 | 2 May 24 | Ayr | Britvic Soft Drinks Handicap |
| 4 Sep 23 | Windsor | CAE & SBS In Partnership Handicap | 12/13 | El Hibri (IRE) | 2 | 22 Sep 23 | Kempton (AW) | Unibet Horserace Betting-Operator Of The Year Handicap |
| 4 Sep 23 | Windsor | CAE & SBS In Partnership Handicap | 12/13 | Sparked (GB) | 5 | 13 Sep 23 | Bath | Great Prices On bresbet.com Handicap |
| 4 Sep 23 | Windsor | CAE & SBS In Partnership Handicap | 12/13 | Tilsworth Ony Ta (GB) | 7 | 16 Sep 23 | Bath | Neil Kellar 60th Birthday Handicap |
| 15 Sep 22 | Yarmouth | British EBF Fillies' Novice Stakes (Div I) | 5/10 | Pinafore (IRE) | 2 | 28 Sep 22 | Kempton (AW) | Unibet/Support British Racing EBF Fillies' Novice Stakes |
| 15 Sep 22 | Yarmouth | British EBF Fillies' Novice Stakes (Div I) | 5/10 | Azure Angel (GB) | 3 | 21 Oct 22 | Newcastle (AW) | Talksport Powered By Fans EBF Fillies' Restricted Novice Stakes |
- 9/1012 Oct 23 · Ayr
Virgin Bet Every Saturday Money Back Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 12 Oct 23
- Course
- Ayr
- Race
- Virgin Bet Every Saturday Money Back Handicap
- This horse
- 9/10
- Winner next time
- Zebra Star (IRE)
- Their pos
- 4
- Won on
- 2 May 24
- At
- Ayr
- Race won
- Britvic Soft Drinks Handicap
- 12/134 Sep 23 · Windsor
CAE & SBS In Partnership Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 4 Sep 23
- Course
- Windsor
- Race
- CAE & SBS In Partnership Handicap
- This horse
- 12/13
- Winner next time
- El Hibri (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 22 Sep 23
- At
- Kempton (AW)
- Race won
- Unibet Horserace Betting-Operator Of The Year Handicap
- 12/134 Sep 23 · Windsor
CAE & SBS In Partnership Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 4 Sep 23
- Course
- Windsor
- Race
- CAE & SBS In Partnership Handicap
- This horse
- 12/13
- Winner next time
- Sparked (GB)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 13 Sep 23
- At
- Bath
- Race won
- Great Prices On bresbet.com Handicap
- 12/134 Sep 23 · Windsor
CAE & SBS In Partnership Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 4 Sep 23
- Course
- Windsor
- Race
- CAE & SBS In Partnership Handicap
- This horse
- 12/13
- Winner next time
- Tilsworth Ony Ta (GB)
- Their pos
- 7
- Won on
- 16 Sep 23
- At
- Bath
- Race won
- Neil Kellar 60th Birthday Handicap
- 5/1015 Sep 22 · Yarmouth
British EBF Fillies' Novice Stakes (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 15 Sep 22
- Course
- Yarmouth
- Race
- British EBF Fillies' Novice Stakes (Div I)
- This horse
- 5/10
- Winner next time
- Pinafore (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 28 Sep 22
- At
- Kempton (AW)
- Race won
- Unibet/Support British Racing EBF Fillies' Novice Stakes
- 5/1015 Sep 22 · Yarmouth
British EBF Fillies' Novice Stakes (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 15 Sep 22
- Course
- Yarmouth
- Race
- British EBF Fillies' Novice Stakes (Div I)
- This horse
- 5/10
- Winner next time
- Azure Angel (GB)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 21 Oct 22
- At
- Newcastle (AW)
- Race won
- Talksport Powered By Fans EBF Fillies' Restricted Novice Stakes
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hugo Palmer | 13 Jun 22 | 12 Oct 23 | 4/9 | 67 | 54 | 67 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £744 | €0 |
Hugo Palmer
- Trainer
- Hugo Palmer
- First run
- 13 Jun 22
- Last run
- 12 Oct 23
- First run for yard
- 4/9
- OR first run
- 67
- OR last run
- 54
- Best OR
- 67
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £744
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £744 | €0 | 67 | 13 Jun 22 | 12 Oct 23 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £744
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 67
- First run
- 13 Jun 22
- Last run
- 12 Oct 23
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat Turf | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £444 | €0 | ||
| Flat AW | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 |
Flat Turf
- Race type
- Flat Turf
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £444
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat AW
- Race type
- Flat AW
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £444 | €0 | ||
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Standard | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Standard to Slow | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 |
Good to Firm
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £444
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good to Soft
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Heavy
- Going
- Heavy
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Standard
- Going
- Standard
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Standard to Slow
- Going
- Standard to Slow
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5f to 6f | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £744 | €0 | ||
| 7f to 1m | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
5f to 6f
- Distance
- 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £744
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
7f to 1m
- Distance
- 7f to 1m
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ayr | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Carlisle | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Kempton (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Newcastle (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 | ||
| Nottingham | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £444 | €0 | ||
| Windsor | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Yarmouth | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Ayr
- Course
- Ayr
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Carlisle
- Course
- Carlisle
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Kempton (AW)
- Course
- Kempton (AW)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Newcastle (AW)
- Course
- Newcastle (AW)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Nottingham
- Course
- Nottingham
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £444
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Windsor
- Course
- Windsor
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Wolverhampton (AW)
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Yarmouth
- Course
- Yarmouth
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Class 5 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £444 | €0 | ||
| Class 6 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 |
Class 4
- Class
- Class 4
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 5
- Class
- Class 5
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £444
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 6
- Class
- Class 6
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 9 to 12 runners | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £444 | €0 | ||
| 6 to 8 runners | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 | ||
| 13 to 16 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £444
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
6 to 8 runners
- Runners
- 6 to 8 runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
13 to 16 runners
- Runners
- 13 to 16 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| May | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| June | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £444 | €0 | ||
| July | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| September | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| October | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 |
May
- Month
- May
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
June
- Month
- June
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £444
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
July
- Month
- July
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
September
- Month
- September
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
October
- Month
- October
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Harry Davies | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Andrew Mullen | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 | ||
| Ben Curtis | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Joe Fanning | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Oisin Murphy | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Ross Coakley | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £444 | €0 | ||
| Rossa Ryan | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Harry Davies
- Jockey
- Harry Davies
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Andrew Mullen
- Jockey
- Andrew Mullen
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Ben Curtis
- Jockey
- Ben Curtis
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Joe Fanning
- Jockey
- Joe Fanning
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Oisin Murphy
- Jockey
- Oisin Murphy
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Ross Coakley
- Jockey
- Ross Coakley
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £444
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Rossa Ryan
- Jockey
- Rossa Ryan
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hugo Palmer | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £744 | €0 |
Hugo Palmer
- Trainer
- Hugo Palmer
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £744
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £444 | €0 | ||
| b | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| t | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| tp | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 | ||
| v | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £444
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
b
- Headgear
- b
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
t
- Headgear
- t
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
tp
- Headgear
- tp
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
v
- Headgear
- v
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £444 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 | ||
| 61 to 120 days | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 121 to 365 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £444
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
61 to 120 days
- Days since last run
- 61 to 120 days
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
121 to 365 days
- Days since last run
- 121 to 365 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
By first-time headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| First time in any headgear | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 | ||
| First time blinkers | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| First time visor | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| First time cheekpieces | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 | ||
| First time tongue strap | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 | ||
| Headgear, all items worn before | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| No headgear | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £444 | €0 |
First time in any headgear
- Headgear
- First time in any headgear
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
First time blinkers
- Headgear
- First time blinkers
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
First time visor
- Headgear
- First time visor
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
First time cheekpieces
- Headgear
- First time cheekpieces
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
First time tongue strap
- Headgear
- First time tongue strap
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear, all items worn before
- Headgear
- Headgear, all items worn before
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £444
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
A run can count in more than one "first time" row (e.g. first-time blinkers and first headgear of any kind). First time is judged against earlier British and Irish runs only.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchNo Nay Never (USA)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireScat Daddy (USA)
- Sire's damCat's Eye Witness (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchNow You're Talking (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireZoffany (IRE)
- Dam's damGranadilla (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireZafonic (USA)
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Granadilla (GB)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Zafonic (USA)
Not traced
Breeding card
HorseDebater (GB)
Sexfilly
Foaled2020
SireNo Nay Never (USA)
DamNow You're Talking (IRE)
DamsireZoffany (IRE)
Sire's sireScat Daddy (USA)
Sire's damCat's Eye Witness (USA)
2nd damGranadilla (GB)
2nd dam's sireZafonic (USA)
Dam's own recordBlack-type placed
Dam's produce1 winners from 2 runners
Notable siblingBiographer (GB)
Female line
- Now You're Talking (IRE) · by Zoffany (IRE) · 1 winners from 2 runners · Black-type placed
- Granadilla (GB) · by Zafonic (USA) · 2 winners from 2 runners
- Epagris (GB) · by Zalazl (USA) · 2 winners from 3 runners · Listed winner
- Trikymia (GB) · 4 winners from 5 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Breeder | Foaled | Colour | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No Nay Never (USA) | Now You're Talking (IRE) | Zoffany (IRE) | Sheikh Isa Salman Al Khalifa | 27 Feb 20 | brown | filly | Flat 6.9f · NH 2m | Flat 7.9f · NH 2m½f |
No Nay Never (USA)
- Damsire
- Zoffany (IRE)
- Breeder
- Sheikh Isa Salman Al Khalifa
- Foaled
- 27 Feb 20
- Colour
- brown
- Sex
- filly
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 6.9f · NH 2m
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 7.9f · NH 2m½f
Progeny of No Nay Never (USA) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 5,485 | 669 | 1,671 | 8 | 0 | ||
| At 5f to 6f | 2,434 | 332 | 801 | 6 | 0 | ||
| On AW going | 1,893 | 221 | 564 | 3 | 0 | ||
| At 5f to 6f on AW going | 708 | 89 | 230 | 3 | 0 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 5,485
- Wins
- 669
- Placed
- 1,671
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 8
- This horse wins
- 0
At 5f to 6f
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 2,434
- Wins
- 332
- Placed
- 801
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 6
- This horse wins
- 0
On AW going
- Condition
- On AW going
- Runs
- 1,893
- Wins
- 221
- Placed
- 564
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
At 5f to 6f on AW going
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f on AW going
- Runs
- 708
- Wins
- 89
- Placed
- 230
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
No Nay Never (USA) × Zoffany (IRE) mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 5 | 2 | 1 | 31 | 7 | 4 | £536,463 | €110,060 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 5
- Winners
- 2
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 1
- Runs
- 31
- Wins
- 7
- 2nd/3rd
- 4
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £536,463
- Prize IRE (€)
- €110,060
All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Best win | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mission Central (IRE) | 11 | 6 | 4 | Group/Grade 1 | £527,575 | €106,460 |
| Macchiavello (IRE) | 9 | 1 | 0 | - | £8,144 | €0 |
| Major Triumph (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | - | £0 | €2,200 |
| Noble Irish (IRE) | 2 | 0 | 0 | - | £0 | €1,400 |
| Debater (GB) | 8 | 0 | 0 | - | £744 | €0 |
Mission Central (IRE)
- Runs
- 11
- Wins
- 6
- Black-type wins
- 4
- Best win
- Group/Grade 1
- Prize GB (£)
- £527,575
- Prize IRE (€)
- €106,460
Macchiavello (IRE)
- Horse
- Macchiavello (IRE)
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £8,144
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Major Triumph (IRE)
- Horse
- Major Triumph (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €2,200
Noble Irish (IRE)
- Horse
- Noble Irish (IRE)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €1,400
Debater (GB)
- Horse
- Debater (GB)
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £744
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 54 | 67 | 54 | 5 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 54
- Highest OR
- 67
- Lowest OR
- 54
- Rated runs
- 5
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
| Date | Course | Code | OR | Change | Pos |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 12 Oct 23 | Ayr | Flat | 54 | -3 | 9/10 |
| 4 Sep 23 | Windsor | Flat | 57 | -4 | 12/13 |
| 19 Jun 23 | Carlisle | Flat | 61 | -3 | 7/8 |
| 15 May 23 | Wolverhampton (AW) | Flat | 64 | -3 | 6/10 |
| 21 Oct 22 | Newcastle (AW) | Flat | 67 | - | 6/8 |
- 9/1012 Oct 23 · Ayr
All fields
- Date
- 12 Oct 23
- Course
- Ayr
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 54
- Change
- -3
- Pos
- 9/10
- 12/134 Sep 23 · Windsor
All fields
- Date
- 4 Sep 23
- Course
- Windsor
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 57
- Change
- -4
- Pos
- 12/13
- 7/819 Jun 23 · Carlisle
All fields
- Date
- 19 Jun 23
- Course
- Carlisle
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 61
- Change
- -3
- Pos
- 7/8
- 6/1015 May 23 · Wolverhampton (AW)
All fields
- Date
- 15 May 23
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 64
- Change
- -3
- Pos
- 6/10
- 6/821 Oct 22 · Newcastle (AW)
All fields
- Date
- 21 Oct 22
- Course
- Newcastle (AW)
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 67
- Change
- -
- Pos
- 6/8
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 54 | 54 | 0 | 67 | -13 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 54
- OR last run
- 54
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 67
- v highest
- -13
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- Record
- Black-type placed
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 1 winners from 2 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by No Nay Never (USA) out of Now You're Talking (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Oasis Dream (GB)
- Biographer (GB)1W · 13R
Female line
- 1Now You're Talking (IRE) · by Zoffany (IRE)
- 2Granadilla (GB) · by Zafonic (USA)
- 3Epagris (GB) · by Zalazl (USA)
- 4Trikymia (GB)
Notable relatives
3rd dam
- Epagris (GB)2W · 9R · 1 black-type
In brief
When was Debater foaled?
Debater (GB), a brown racehorse, was foaled on 27 February 2020.
Who are the sire and dam of Debater?
Debater (GB) is by No Nay Never (USA) out of Now You're Talking (IRE), a daughter of Zoffany (IRE), and was bred by Sheikh Isa Salman Al Khalifa.
Who trained Debater?
Debater (GB) was trained by Hugo Palmer and owned by Isa Salman Al Khalifa at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Debater's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Debater (GB) ran 8 times without winning.
What was Debater's official rating?
Debater (GB) was last officially rated 54 on the Flat (career high 67).
Is Debater still racing?
Debater (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 12 October 2023 at Ayr in the Virgin Bet Every Saturday Money Back Handicap, finishing 9th of 10, and has not run there since.
Is Debater related to any top horses?
Debater (GB)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Epagris (GB) (3rd dam, Listed winner), from the Trikymia (GB) family.
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