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Horse profile
Bill Or Ben
- TrainerMiss S B Duffy
- OwnerMiss S B Duffy
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 1983
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 4 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 12 Dec 1990, Punchestown (IRE) (15/18)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 12 Dec 90 | Punchestown (IRE) | 15/18 | 20/1 | 11½ | Mr P F Graffin | Miss S B Duffy | Ballycaghan Hurdle | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m | Soft | 11-2 | Donode (GB) | 21 | 0/16 |
| 21 Nov 90 | Fairyhouse (IRE) | 10/16 | 8/1 | 19 | Mr P F Graffin | Miss S B Duffy | Drumree INH Flat Race | Non-handicap (unclassified) | NH Flat | 2m2f | Good | 12-0 | Cherryhill Beauty (GB) | 4 | 0/15 |
| 17 Nov 90 | Naas (IRE) | 9/18 | 12/1 | 12¾ | Mr P F Graffin | Miss S B Duffy | Tipper Road INH Flat Race | Non-handicap (unclassified) | NH Flat | 2m | Soft | 11-11 | Cock Cockburn (GB) | 24 | 2/16 |
| 24 Oct 90 | Navan (IRE) | 11/15 | 10/1 | 14¾ | Mr P F Graffin | Miss S B Duffy | Oristown I.N.H. Flat Race | Non-handicap (unclassified) | NH Flat | 2m | Yielding | 12-0 | The Quiet Man I (GB) | - | 1/10 |
Ballycaghan Hurdle
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mSoft
All fields
- Date
- 12 Dec 90
- Course
- Punchestown (IRE)
- Pos
- 15/18
- SP
- 20/1
- Btn
- 11½
- Jockey
- Mr P F Graffin
- Trainer
- Miss S B Duffy
- Race
- Ballycaghan Hurdle
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 11-2
- Winner / 2nd
- Donode (GB)
- Days
- 21
- Future form
- 0/16
Drumree INH Flat Race
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m2fGood
All fields
- Date
- 21 Nov 90
- Course
- Fairyhouse (IRE)
- Pos
- 10/16
- SP
- 8/1
- Btn
- 19
- Jockey
- Mr P F Graffin
- Trainer
- Miss S B Duffy
- Race
- Drumree INH Flat Race
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m2f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 12-0
- Winner / 2nd
- Cherryhill Beauty (GB)
- Days
- 4
- Future form
- 0/15
Tipper Road INH Flat Race
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mSoft
All fields
- Date
- 17 Nov 90
- Course
- Naas (IRE)
- Pos
- 9/18
- SP
- 12/1
- Btn
- 12¾
- Jockey
- Mr P F Graffin
- Trainer
- Miss S B Duffy
- Race
- Tipper Road INH Flat Race
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 11-11
- Winner / 2nd
- Cock Cockburn (GB)
- Days
- 24
- Future form
- 2/16
Oristown I.N.H. Flat Race
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mYielding
All fields
- Date
- 24 Oct 90
- Course
- Navan (IRE)
- Pos
- 11/15
- SP
- 10/1
- Btn
- 14¾
- Jockey
- Mr P F Graffin
- Trainer
- Miss S B Duffy
- Race
- Oristown I.N.H. Flat Race
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Yielding
- Wgt
- 12-0
- Winner / 2nd
- The Quiet Man I (GB)
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 1/10
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 17 Nov 90 | Naas (IRE) | Tipper Road INH Flat Race | 9/18 | Does It Matter I (GB) | 2 | 30 Mar 91 | Mallow (IRE) | Mallow Maiden Hurdle (Div II) |
| 17 Nov 90 | Naas (IRE) | Tipper Road INH Flat Race | 9/18 | Mad Tom (GB) | 4 | 24 Nov 90 | Navan (IRE) | Killeen Hurdle |
| 24 Oct 90 | Navan (IRE) | Oristown I.N.H. Flat Race | 11/15 | Cherryhill Beauty (GB) | 8 | 21 Nov 90 | Fairyhouse (IRE) | Drumree INH Flat Race |
- 9/1817 Nov 90 · Naas (IRE)
Tipper Road INH Flat Race
All fields
- Date
- 17 Nov 90
- Course
- Naas (IRE)
- Race
- Tipper Road INH Flat Race
- This horse
- 9/18
- Winner next time
- Does It Matter I (GB)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 30 Mar 91
- At
- Mallow (IRE)
- Race won
- Mallow Maiden Hurdle (Div II)
- 9/1817 Nov 90 · Naas (IRE)
Tipper Road INH Flat Race
All fields
- Date
- 17 Nov 90
- Course
- Naas (IRE)
- Race
- Tipper Road INH Flat Race
- This horse
- 9/18
- Winner next time
- Mad Tom (GB)
- Their pos
- 4
- Won on
- 24 Nov 90
- Race won
- Killeen Hurdle
- 11/1524 Oct 90 · Navan (IRE)
Oristown I.N.H. Flat Race
All fields
- Date
- 24 Oct 90
- Course
- Navan (IRE)
- Race
- Oristown I.N.H. Flat Race
- This horse
- 11/15
- Winner next time
- Cherryhill Beauty (GB)
- Their pos
- 8
- Won on
- 21 Nov 90
- Race won
- Drumree INH Flat Race
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Miss S B Duffy | 24 Oct 90 | 12 Dec 90 | 11/15 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Miss S B Duffy
- Trainer
- Miss S B Duffy
- First run
- 24 Oct 90
- Last run
- 12 Dec 90
- First run for yard
- 11/15
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 24 Oct 90 | 12 Dec 90 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 24 Oct 90
- Last run
- 12 Dec 90
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| NH Flat | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Hurdle
- Race type
- Hurdle
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
NH Flat
- Race type
- NH Flat
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Yielding | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Soft | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Yielding
- Going
- Yielding
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Soft
- Going
- Soft
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m to 2m1f | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 2m2f to 2m5f | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
2m to 2m1f
- Distance
- 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
2m2f to 2m5f
- Distance
- 2m2f to 2m5f
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fairyhouse (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Naas (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Navan (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Punchestown (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Fairyhouse (IRE)
- Course
- Fairyhouse (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Naas (IRE)
- Course
- Naas (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Navan (IRE)
- Course
- Navan (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Punchestown (IRE)
- Course
- Punchestown (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Non-handicap (unclassified) | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 13 to 16 runners | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 17+ runners | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
13 to 16 runners
- Runners
- 13 to 16 runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
17+ runners
- Runners
- 17+ runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| October | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| November | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| December | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
October
- Month
- October
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
November
- Month
- November
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
December
- Month
- December
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mr P F Graffin | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Mr P F Graffin
- Jockey
- Mr P F Graffin
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Miss S B Duffy | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Miss S B Duffy
- Trainer
- Miss S B Duffy
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 1 to 7 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
1 to 7 days
- Days since last run
- 1 to 7 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchCandy Cane (GB)
Parent · 1
- SireCandy Cane (GB)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchCrepitus (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireSuki Desu
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Crepitus (GB) · 0 winners from 2 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Candy Cane (GB) | Crepitus (GB) | Suki Desu | gelding | NH 2m5½f | NH 2m4f |
Candy Cane (GB)
- Sire
- Candy Cane (GB)
- Damsire
- Suki Desu
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- NH 2m5½f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- NH 2m4f
Progeny of Candy Cane (GB) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 217 | 23 | 57 | 4 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f | 42 | 3 | 6 | 3 | 0 | ||
| On Soft going | 44 | 6 | 13 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f on Soft going | 6 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 217
- Wins
- 23
- Placed
- 57
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 4
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 42
- Wins
- 3
- Placed
- 6
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
On Soft going
- Condition
- On Soft going
- Runs
- 44
- Wins
- 6
- Placed
- 13
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f on Soft going
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f on Soft going
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- Placed
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Candy Cane (GB) × Suki Desu mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Bill Or Ben (GB) | 4 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Bill Or Ben (GB)
- Horse
- Bill Or Ben (GB)
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 0 winners from 2 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Candy Cane (GB) out of Crepitus (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Royal Captive (GB)
- No Ransom (GB)0W · 2R
Female line
- 1Crepitus (GB)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Bill Or Ben foaled?
Bill Or Ben (GB) was foaled in 1983.
Who are the sire and dam of Bill Or Ben?
Bill Or Ben (GB) is by Candy Cane (GB) out of Crepitus (GB), a daughter of Suki Desu.
Who trained Bill Or Ben?
Bill Or Ben (GB) was trained by Miss S B Duffy and owned by Miss S B Duffy at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Bill Or Ben's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Bill Or Ben (GB) ran 4 times without winning.
Is Bill Or Ben still racing?
Bill Or Ben (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 12 December 1990 at Punchestown (IRE) in the Ballycaghan Hurdle, finishing 15th of 18, and has not run there since.
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