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Horse profile
Beyond Argument
- TrainerDavid Simcock
- OwnerMrs Fitri Hay
- FamilyChain Fern
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 2012
- Highest OR
- 55
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 4 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last official rating
- 55 (Flat)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 1 Jun 2016, Chelmsford (AW) (8/8)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Headgear | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 Jun 16 | Chelmsford (AW) | 8/8 | 6/1 | dist | Jamie Spencer | David Simcock | CCR Ladies Day 16th June Handicap | Class 6 | Flat AW | 1m6f | Standard | 9-2 | 55 | p | Eurato (FR) | £3,235 | 251 | 0/5 |
| 24 Sep 15 | Chelmsford (AW) | 13/15 | 33/1 | 29¼ | Tom Eaves | David Simcock | Win A Football Fortune With Scoop6Soccer Maiden Stakes | Class 5 | Flat AW | 1m2f | Standard | 9-5 | - | - | Petrucci (IRE) | £3,881 | 37 | 1/12 |
| 18 Aug 15 | Chelmsford (AW) | 9/10 | 16/1 | 28¼ | Jamie Spencer | David Simcock | Play scoop6soccer In Betfred Shops Maiden Stakes | Class 4 | Flat AW | 1m2f | Standard | 9-5 | - | - | Radhaadh (IRE) | £5,175 | 19 | 0/8 |
| 30 Jul 15 | Ffos Las | 6/7 | 6/1 | 16¾ | Oisin Murphy | David Simcock | Bluebell Maiden Stakes | Class 5 | Flat Turf | 1m4f | Good | 9-2 | - | - | Alla Breve (GB) | £3,235 | - | 0/6 |
- 8/81 Jun 16 · Chelmsford (AW)6/1
CCR Ladies Day 16th June Handicap
Class 61m6fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 1 Jun 16
- Course
- Chelmsford (AW)
- Pos
- 8/8
- SP
- 6/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Jamie Spencer
- Trainer
- David Simcock
- Race
- CCR Ladies Day 16th June Handicap
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 1m6f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-2
- OR
- 55
- Headgear
- p
- Winner / 2nd
- Eurato (FR)
- Winner prize
- £3,235
- Days
- 251
- Future form
- 0/5
- 13/1524 Sep 15 · Chelmsford (AW)33/1
Win A Football Fortune With Scoop6Soccer Maiden Stakes
Class 51m2fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 24 Sep 15
- Course
- Chelmsford (AW)
- Pos
- 13/15
- SP
- 33/1
- Btn
- 29¼
- Jockey
- Tom Eaves
- Trainer
- David Simcock
- Race
- Win A Football Fortune With Scoop6Soccer Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 1m2f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-5
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Petrucci (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,881
- Days
- 37
- Future form
- 1/12
- 9/1018 Aug 15 · Chelmsford (AW)16/1
Play scoop6soccer In Betfred Shops Maiden Stakes
Class 41m2fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 18 Aug 15
- Course
- Chelmsford (AW)
- Pos
- 9/10
- SP
- 16/1
- Btn
- 28¼
- Jockey
- Jamie Spencer
- Trainer
- David Simcock
- Race
- Play scoop6soccer In Betfred Shops Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 1m2f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-5
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Radhaadh (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £5,175
- Days
- 19
- Future form
- 0/8
Bluebell Maiden Stakes
Class 51m4fGood
All fields
- Date
- 30 Jul 15
- Course
- Ffos Las
- Pos
- 6/7
- SP
- 6/1
- Btn
- 16¾
- Jockey
- Oisin Murphy
- Trainer
- David Simcock
- Race
- Bluebell Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m4f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 9-2
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Alla Breve (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,235
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 0/6
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 24 Sep 15 | Chelmsford (AW) | Win A Football Fortune With Scoop6Soccer Maiden Stakes | 13/15 | Midnight Whistler (USA) | 11 | 6 Feb 16 | Lingfield (AW) | Coral Maiden Stakes |
- 13/1524 Sep 15 · Chelmsford (AW)
Win A Football Fortune With Scoop6Soccer Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 24 Sep 15
- Course
- Chelmsford (AW)
- Race
- Win A Football Fortune With Scoop6Soccer Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 13/15
- Winner next time
- Midnight Whistler (USA)
- Their pos
- 11
- Won on
- 6 Feb 16
- At
- Lingfield (AW)
- Race won
- Coral Maiden Stakes
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| David Simcock | 30 Jul 15 | 1 Jun 16 | 6/7 | 55 | 55 | 55 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
David Simcock
- Trainer
- David Simcock
- First run
- 30 Jul 15
- Last run
- 1 Jun 16
- First run for yard
- 6/7
- OR first run
- 55
- OR last run
- 55
- Best OR
- 55
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 55 | 30 Jul 15 | 1 Jun 16 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 55
- First run
- 30 Jul 15
- Last run
- 1 Jun 16
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat Turf | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Flat AW | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Flat Turf
- Race type
- Flat Turf
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat AW
- Race type
- Flat AW
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Standard | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Standard
- Going
- Standard
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 9f to 11f | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 12f to 13f | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 14f and over | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
9f to 11f
- Distance
- 9f to 11f
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
12f to 13f
- Distance
- 12f to 13f
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
14f and over
- Distance
- 14f and over
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Chelmsford (AW) | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Ffos Las | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Chelmsford (AW)
- Course
- Chelmsford (AW)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Ffos Las
- Course
- Ffos Las
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Class 5 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Class 6 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Class 4
- Class
- Class 4
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 5
- Class
- Class 5
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 6
- Class
- Class 6
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6 to 8 runners | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 9 to 12 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 13 to 16 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
6 to 8 runners
- Runners
- 6 to 8 runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
13 to 16 runners
- Runners
- 13 to 16 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| June | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| July | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| August | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| September | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
June
- Month
- June
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
July
- Month
- July
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
August
- Month
- August
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
September
- Month
- September
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jamie Spencer | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Oisin Murphy | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Tom Eaves | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Jamie Spencer
- Jockey
- Jamie Spencer
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Oisin Murphy
- Jockey
- Oisin Murphy
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Tom Eaves
- Jockey
- Tom Eaves
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| David Simcock | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
David Simcock
- Trainer
- David Simcock
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| p | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
p
- Headgear
- p
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 121 to 365 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
121 to 365 days
- Days since last run
- 121 to 365 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
By first-time headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| First time in any headgear | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| First time cheekpieces | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| No headgear | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
First time in any headgear
- Headgear
- First time in any headgear
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
First time cheekpieces
- Headgear
- First time cheekpieces
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
A run can count in more than one "first time" row (e.g. first-time blinkers and first headgear of any kind). First time is judged against earlier British and Irish runs only.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchGalileo (IRE)
Parent · 1
- SireGalileo (IRE)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireSadler's Wells (USA)
- Sire's damUrban Sea (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchThought Is Free (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireCadeaux Genereux (GB)
- Dam's damDayville (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireDayjur (USA)
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Thought Is Free (GB) · by Cadeaux Genereux (GB) · 3 winners from 8 runners · Black-type placed
- Dayville (USA) · by Dayjur (USA) · 9 winners from 17 runners
- Chain Fern (USA) · 4 winners from 5 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Galileo (IRE) | Thought Is Free (GB) | Cadeaux Genereux (GB) | gelding | Flat 10.6f · NH 2m2½f | Flat 7.5f · NH 2m1½f |
Galileo (IRE)
- Sire
- Galileo (IRE)
- Damsire
- Cadeaux Genereux (GB)
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 10.6f · NH 2m2½f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 7.5f · NH 2m1½f
Progeny of Galileo (IRE) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 13,484 | 2,106 | 4,859 | 4 | 0 | ||
| At 9f to 11f | 3,716 | 609 | 1,434 | 2 | 0 | ||
| On AW going | 2,396 | 307 | 749 | 3 | 0 | ||
| At 9f to 11f on AW going | 663 | 97 | 224 | 2 | 0 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 13,484
- Wins
- 2,106
- Placed
- 4,859
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 4
- This horse wins
- 0
At 9f to 11f
- Condition
- At 9f to 11f
- Runs
- 3,716
- Wins
- 609
- Placed
- 1,434
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
On AW going
- Condition
- On AW going
- Runs
- 2,396
- Wins
- 307
- Placed
- 749
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
At 9f to 11f on AW going
- Condition
- At 9f to 11f on AW going
- Runs
- 663
- Wins
- 97
- Placed
- 224
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Galileo (IRE) × Cadeaux Genereux mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 7 | 4 | 1 | 39 | 6 | 5 | £80,600 | €14,500 | ||
| National Hunt | 2 | 1 | 0 | 27 | 5 | 8 | £19,978 | €0 | ||
| All runs | 7 | 5 | 1 | 66 | 11 | 13 | £100,578 | €14,500 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 7
- Winners
- 4
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 1
- Runs
- 39
- Wins
- 6
- 2nd/3rd
- 5
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £80,600
- Prize IRE (€)
- €14,500
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 2
- Winners
- 1
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 27
- Wins
- 5
- 2nd/3rd
- 8
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £19,978
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
All runs
- Code
- All runs
- Runners
- 7
- Winners
- 5
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 1
- Runs
- 66
- Wins
- 11
- 2nd/3rd
- 13
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £100,578
- Prize IRE (€)
- €14,500
All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Best win | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Observational (GB) | 5 | 1 | 1 | Listed | £69,199 | €0 |
| Calypso Bay (IRE) | 31 | 5 | 0 | - | £20,748 | €0 |
| Sharp Relief (IRE) | 8 | 2 | 0 | - | £3,878 | €0 |
| Great Explorer (IRE) | 8 | 2 | 0 | - | £0 | €14,500 |
| Kassiopeia (IRE) | 8 | 1 | 0 | - | £6,441 | €0 |
| Fancy Vivid (IRE) | 2 | 0 | 0 | - | £312 | €0 |
| Beyond Argument (IRE) | 4 | 0 | 0 | - | £0 | €0 |
Observational (GB)
- Horse
- Observational (GB)
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 1
- Best win
- Listed
- Prize GB (£)
- £69,199
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Calypso Bay (IRE)
- Horse
- Calypso Bay (IRE)
- Runs
- 31
- Wins
- 5
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £20,748
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Sharp Relief (IRE)
- Horse
- Sharp Relief (IRE)
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,878
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Great Explorer (IRE)
- Horse
- Great Explorer (IRE)
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €14,500
Kassiopeia (IRE)
- Horse
- Kassiopeia (IRE)
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £6,441
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Fancy Vivid (IRE)
- Horse
- Fancy Vivid (IRE)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £312
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Beyond Argument (IRE)
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 55 | 55 | 55 | 1 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 55
- Highest OR
- 55
- Lowest OR
- 55
- Rated runs
- 1
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
| Date | Course | Code | OR | Pos |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 Jun 16 | Chelmsford (AW) | Flat | 55 | 8/8 |
- 8/81 Jun 16 · Chelmsford (AW)
All fields
- Date
- 1 Jun 16
- Course
- Chelmsford (AW)
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 55
- Pos
- 8/8
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 55 | 55 | 0 | 55 | 0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 55
- OR last run
- 55
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 55
- v highest
- 0
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- Record
- Black-type placed
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 3 winners from 8 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Galileo (IRE) out of Thought Is Free (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Elusive City (USA)
- Elusive Thought (IRE)0W · 7R
By Invincible Spirit (IRE)
- Merry Me (IRE)2W · 17R
By Fastnet Rock (AUS)
- Westward Ho (IRE)1W · 8R
By Shamardal (USA)
- Eastern (IRE)0W · 3R
By Zoffany (IRE)
- Wild Hero (IRE)1W · 9R
- Missed Illusion (IRE)0W · 8R
By Dandy Man (IRE)
- Loose One (IRE)0W · 3R
Female line
- 1Thought Is Free (GB) · by Cadeaux Genereux (GB)
- 2Dayville (USA) · by Dayjur (USA)
- 3Chain Fern (USA)
Notable relatives
First cousin once removed
- Argentine Tango (GB)4W · 19R · 2 black-type
In brief
When was Beyond Argument foaled?
Beyond Argument (IRE) was foaled in 2012.
Who are the sire and dam of Beyond Argument?
Beyond Argument (IRE) is by Galileo (IRE) out of Thought Is Free (GB), a daughter of Cadeaux Genereux (GB).
Who trained Beyond Argument?
Beyond Argument (IRE) was trained by David Simcock and owned by Mrs Fitri Hay at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Beyond Argument's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Beyond Argument (IRE) ran 4 times without winning.
What was Beyond Argument's official rating?
Beyond Argument (IRE) was last officially rated 55 on the Flat (also the career high).
Is Beyond Argument still racing?
Beyond Argument (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 1 June 2016 at Chelmsford (AW) in the CCR Ladies Day 16th June Handicap, finishing 8th of 8, and has not run there since.
Is Beyond Argument related to any top horses?
Beyond Argument (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Argentine Tango (GB) (first cousin once removed, Listed winner), from the Chain Fern (USA) family.
What is Beyond Argument's record at Chelmsford (AW)?
Beyond Argument (IRE) ran most often at Chelmsford (AW), with no wins from 3 runs there.
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