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Horse profile

Young Orpheus

Young Generation (GB) × Orpheline (GB) (Thatch (USA))
Sex
gelding
Foaled
1984
Record (GB & IRE)
0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£0
Last run (GB & IRE)
18 Jan 1992, Haydock (F/13)
Last win (GB & IRE)
Never won
Recent form
9F

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
18 Jan 92HaydockF/13100/1-Mr C MulhallSue SmithSteel Plate And Sections Young Chasers Qualifier Novices'Non-handicap (unclassified)Chase2m3fGood11-3Parson's Thorns (GB)£4,045544/12
25 Nov 91Wolverhampton9/15100/1distDerek ByrneSue SmithGenie Of Lamp Novices' ChaseNon-handicap (unclassified)Chase2m4fGood10-12Springaleak (GB)£2,320-4/13
  • F/1318 Jan 92 · Haydock100/1

    Steel Plate And Sections Young Chasers Qualifier Novices'

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m3fGood

    All fields
    Date
    18 Jan 92
    Course
    Haydock
    Pos
    F/13
    SP
    100/1
    Btn
    -
    Trainer
    Sue Smith
    Race
    Steel Plate And Sections Young Chasers Qualifier Novices'
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m3f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    11-3
    Winner prize
    £4,045
    Days
    54
    Future form
    4/12
  • 9/1525 Nov 91 · Wolverhampton100/1

    Genie Of Lamp Novices' Chase

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m4fGood

    All fields
    Date
    25 Nov 91
    Pos
    9/15
    SP
    100/1
    Btn
    dist
    Trainer
    Sue Smith
    Race
    Genie Of Lamp Novices' Chase
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    10-12
    Winner / 2nd
    Springaleak (GB)
    Winner prize
    £2,320
    Days
    -
    Future form
    4/13

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
18 Jan 92HaydockSteel Plate And Sections Young Chasers Qualifier Novices'F/13Parson's Thorns (GB)111 Feb 92TowcesterBluebell Novices' Chase
18 Jan 92HaydockSteel Plate And Sections Young Chasers Qualifier Novices'F/13Poetic Gem (GB)219 Feb 92WarwickSky Blue Handicap Chase
18 Jan 92HaydockSteel Plate And Sections Young Chasers Qualifier Novices'F/13No More The Fool (GB)-29 Aug 92CartmelLakeland Pennine Linen And Workware Rental Novices' Chase
18 Jan 92HaydockSteel Plate And Sections Young Chasers Qualifier Novices'F/13Miami Bear (GB)-5 Feb 92Southwell (AW)Bishop Handicap Chase
25 Nov 91WolverhamptonGenie Of Lamp Novices' Chase9/15Springaleak (GB)119 Dec 91TowcesterMistletoe Novices' Chase (Div II)
25 Nov 91WolverhamptonGenie Of Lamp Novices' Chase9/15Space Fair (GB)227 Dec 91WolverhamptonAstbury Trophy Novices' Chase (Div I)
25 Nov 91WolverhamptonGenie Of Lamp Novices' Chase9/15Creeager (GB)44 Jan 92Market RasenLouth Handicap Chase
25 Nov 91WolverhamptonGenie Of Lamp Novices' Chase9/15The City Minstrel (GB)84 Dec 91LudlowTemeside Novices' Handicap Chase
  • F/1318 Jan 92 · Haydock

    Steel Plate And Sections Young Chasers Qualifier Novices'

    All fields
    Date
    18 Jan 92
    Course
    Haydock
    Race
    Steel Plate And Sections Young Chasers Qualifier Novices'
    This horse
    F/13
    Winner next time
    Parson's Thorns (GB)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    11 Feb 92
    At
    Towcester
    Race won
    Bluebell Novices' Chase
  • F/1318 Jan 92 · Haydock

    Steel Plate And Sections Young Chasers Qualifier Novices'

    All fields
    Date
    18 Jan 92
    Course
    Haydock
    Race
    Steel Plate And Sections Young Chasers Qualifier Novices'
    This horse
    F/13
    Winner next time
    Poetic Gem (GB)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    19 Feb 92
    Race won
    Sky Blue Handicap Chase
  • F/1318 Jan 92 · Haydock

    Steel Plate And Sections Young Chasers Qualifier Novices'

    All fields
    Date
    18 Jan 92
    Course
    Haydock
    Race
    Steel Plate And Sections Young Chasers Qualifier Novices'
    This horse
    F/13
    Winner next time
    No More The Fool (GB)
    Their pos
    -
    Won on
    29 Aug 92
    Race won
    Lakeland Pennine Linen And Workware Rental Novices' Chase
  • F/1318 Jan 92 · Haydock

    Steel Plate And Sections Young Chasers Qualifier Novices'

    All fields
    Date
    18 Jan 92
    Course
    Haydock
    Race
    Steel Plate And Sections Young Chasers Qualifier Novices'
    This horse
    F/13
    Winner next time
    Miami Bear (GB)
    Their pos
    -
    Won on
    5 Feb 92
    At
    Southwell (AW)
    Race won
    Bishop Handicap Chase
  • 9/1525 Nov 91 · Wolverhampton

    Genie Of Lamp Novices' Chase

    All fields
    Date
    25 Nov 91
    Race
    Genie Of Lamp Novices' Chase
    This horse
    9/15
    Winner next time
    Springaleak (GB)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    19 Dec 91
    At
    Towcester
    Race won
    Mistletoe Novices' Chase (Div II)
  • 9/1525 Nov 91 · Wolverhampton

    Genie Of Lamp Novices' Chase

    All fields
    Date
    25 Nov 91
    Race
    Genie Of Lamp Novices' Chase
    This horse
    9/15
    Winner next time
    Space Fair (GB)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    27 Dec 91
    Race won
    Astbury Trophy Novices' Chase (Div I)
  • 9/1525 Nov 91 · Wolverhampton

    Genie Of Lamp Novices' Chase

    All fields
    Date
    25 Nov 91
    Race
    Genie Of Lamp Novices' Chase
    This horse
    9/15
    Winner next time
    Creeager (GB)
    Their pos
    4
    Won on
    4 Jan 92
    Race won
    Louth Handicap Chase
  • 9/1525 Nov 91 · Wolverhampton

    Genie Of Lamp Novices' Chase

    All fields
    Date
    25 Nov 91
    Race
    Genie Of Lamp Novices' Chase
    This horse
    9/15
    Winner next time
    The City Minstrel (GB)
    Their pos
    8
    Won on
    4 Dec 91
    Race won
    Temeside Novices' Handicap Chase

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Sue Smith25 Nov 9118 Jan 929/1520000.0%0.0%£0€0
Sue Smith
Trainer
Sue Smith
First run
25 Nov 91
Last run
18 Jan 92
First run for yard
9/15
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)First runLast run
National Hunt20000.0%0.0%£0€025 Nov 9118 Jan 92
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
First run
25 Nov 91
Last run
18 Jan 92

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchYoung Generation (GB)

Parent · 1

  1. SireYoung Generation (GB)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchOrpheline (GB)

Parent · 1

  1. DamOrpheline (GB)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireThatch (USA)
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Young Generation (GB)
Orpheline (GB)
Not traced
Not traced
Thatch (USA)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseYoung Orpheus (GB)
Sexgelding
Foaled1984
SireYoung Generation (GB)
DamOrpheline (GB)
DamsireThatch (USA)
Dam's produce1 winners from 2 runners
Notable siblingTricotric (GB)

Female line

  1. Orpheline (GB) · 1 winners from 2 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Young Generation (GB)Orpheline (GB)Thatch (USA)geldingFlat 9.5f · NH 2m1½fFlat 9.4f · NH 2m2½f
Young Generation (GB)
Sex
gelding
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 9.5f · NH 2m1½f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 9.4f · NH 2m2½f

Progeny of Young Generation (GB) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs24413475.3%19.3%20
At 2m2f to 2m5f52283.8%15.4%20
On Good going714115.6%15.5%20
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Good going16126.3%12.5%20
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
244
Wins
13
Placed
47
Win %
5.3%
Place %
19.3%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
At 2m2f to 2m5f
Condition
At 2m2f to 2m5f
Runs
52
Wins
2
Placed
8
Win %
3.8%
Place %
15.4%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
On Good going
Condition
On Good going
Runs
71
Wins
4
Placed
11
Win %
5.6%
Place %
15.5%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Good going
Condition
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Good going
Runs
16
Wins
1
Placed
2
Win %
6.3%
Place %
12.5%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Young Generation (GB) × Thatch mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt100.0%02000.0%£0€0
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
1
Winners
0
Winners %
0.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd/3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Young Orpheus (GB)200£0€0
Young Orpheus (GB)
Runs
2
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Family

Dam summary

Orpheline (GB)

G1 winners
0
Produce
1 winners from 2 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Young Generation (GB) out of Orpheline (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Electric I (GB)

Female line

  1. 1Orpheline (GB)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

In brief

When was Young Orpheus foaled?

Young Orpheus (GB) was foaled in 1984.

Who are the sire and dam of Young Orpheus?

Young Orpheus (GB) is by Young Generation (GB) out of Orpheline (GB), a daughter of Thatch (USA).

Who trained Young Orpheus?

Young Orpheus (GB) was trained by Sue Smith and owned by Mrs S Smith at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Young Orpheus' race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Young Orpheus (GB) ran 2 times without winning.

Is Young Orpheus still racing?

Young Orpheus (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 18 January 1992 at Haydock in the Steel Plate And Sections Young Chasers Qualifier Novices' (result: fell, 13 ran), and has not run there since.

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