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Horse profile
Within Reason (IRE)
- TrainerLiz Doyle
- OwnerMrs Judy Maxwell
- FamilyKept In The Dark
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 2008
See also: Within Reason (GB) · P S Felgate · 7 runs · 0 wins
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 16 Mar 2013, Down Royal (IRE) (6/9)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 16 Mar 13 | Down Royal (IRE) | 6/9 | 33/1 | dist | Mr J T Rath | Liz Doyle | Daily Mirror Hunters Chase | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Chase | 2m4f | Heavy | 10-5 | Russian Regent (IRE) | €4,830 | 331 | 0/6 |
| 19 Apr 12 | Tipperary (IRE) | 11/17 | 20/1 | 29½ | Mr J T Rath | Liz Doyle | Tipperary Racecourse Events INH Flat Race | Non-handicap (unclassified) | NH Flat | 2m | Soft | 10-11 | Definite Dream I (IRE) | €4,830 | - | 1/16 |
Daily Mirror Hunters Chase
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m4fHeavy
All fields
- Date
- 16 Mar 13
- Course
- Down Royal (IRE)
- Pos
- 6/9
- SP
- 33/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Mr J T Rath
- Trainer
- Liz Doyle
- Race
- Daily Mirror Hunters Chase
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Chase
- Dist
- 2m4f
- Going
- Heavy
- Wgt
- 10-5
- Winner / 2nd
- Russian Regent (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €4,830
- Days
- 331
- Future form
- 0/6
Tipperary Racecourse Events INH Flat Race
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mSoft
All fields
- Date
- 19 Apr 12
- Course
- Tipperary (IRE)
- Pos
- 11/17
- SP
- 20/1
- Btn
- 29½
- Jockey
- Mr J T Rath
- Trainer
- Liz Doyle
- Race
- Tipperary Racecourse Events INH Flat Race
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 10-11
- Winner / 2nd
- Definite Dream I (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €4,830
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 1/16
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 19 Apr 12 | Tipperary (IRE) | Tipperary Racecourse Events INH Flat Race | 11/17 | Ally Cascade (IRE) | 3 | 13 Oct 12 | Fairyhouse (IRE) | Fairyhouse Sponsors Nina Carberry (C & G) Flat Race |
- 11/1719 Apr 12 · Tipperary (IRE)
Tipperary Racecourse Events INH Flat Race
All fields
- Date
- 19 Apr 12
- Course
- Tipperary (IRE)
- Race
- Tipperary Racecourse Events INH Flat Race
- This horse
- 11/17
- Winner next time
- Ally Cascade (IRE)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 13 Oct 12
- Race won
- Fairyhouse Sponsors Nina Carberry (C & G) Flat Race
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Liz Doyle | 19 Apr 12 | 16 Mar 13 | 11/17 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Liz Doyle
- Trainer
- Liz Doyle
- First run
- 19 Apr 12
- Last run
- 16 Mar 13
- First run for yard
- 11/17
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 19 Apr 12 | 16 Mar 13 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 19 Apr 12
- Last run
- 16 Mar 13
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchBroadway Flyer (USA)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireTheatrical (IRE)
- Sire's damSerena (SAF)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchPure N Simple (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sirePresenting (GB)
- Dam's damKept In The Dark (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Pure N Simple (IRE) · by Presenting (GB) · 0 winners from 1 runners
- Kept In The Dark (GB) · 4 winners from 8 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Broadway Flyer (USA) | Pure N Simple (IRE) | Presenting (GB) | gelding | Flat 8.5f · NH 2m3½f | Flat 13.4f · NH 2m4f |
Broadway Flyer (USA)
- Damsire
- Presenting (GB)
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 8.5f · NH 2m3½f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 13.4f · NH 2m4f
Progeny of Broadway Flyer (USA) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 829 | 88 | 234 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f | 297 | 30 | 88 | 1 | 0 | ||
| On Heavy going | 130 | 12 | 32 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f on Heavy going | 45 | 4 | 13 | 0 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 829
- Wins
- 88
- Placed
- 234
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 297
- Wins
- 30
- Placed
- 88
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
On Heavy going
- Condition
- On Heavy going
- Runs
- 130
- Wins
- 12
- Placed
- 32
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f on Heavy going
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f on Heavy going
- Runs
- 45
- Wins
- 4
- Placed
- 13
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 0
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Broadway Flyer (USA) × Presenting mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 3 | 1 | 0 | 17 | 2 | 2 | £0 | €24,145 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 3
- Winners
- 1
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 17
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd/3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €24,145
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Darkest Flyer (IRE) | 13 | 2 | 0 | £0 | €23,694 |
| Within Reason (IRE) | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
| Ruby On Broadway (IRE) | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €451 |
Darkest Flyer (IRE)
- Horse
- Darkest Flyer (IRE)
- Runs
- 13
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €23,694
Within Reason (IRE)
- Horse
- Within Reason (IRE)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Ruby On Broadway (IRE)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €451
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 0 winners from 1 runners
Full siblings
Within Reason is the only foal out of Pure N Simple (IRE) to have raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
Within Reason is the only foal out of Pure N Simple (IRE) to have raced in Britain or Ireland.
Female line
- 1Pure N Simple (IRE) · by Presenting (GB)
- 2Kept In The Dark (GB)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Within Reason foaled?
Within Reason (IRE) was foaled in 2008.
Who are the sire and dam of Within Reason?
Within Reason (IRE) is by Broadway Flyer (USA) out of Pure N Simple (IRE), a daughter of Presenting (GB).
Who trained Within Reason?
Within Reason (IRE) was trained by Liz Doyle and owned by Mrs Judy Maxwell at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Within Reason's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Within Reason (IRE) ran 2 times without winning.
Is Within Reason still racing?
Within Reason (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 16 March 2013 at Down Royal (IRE) in the Daily Mirror Hunters Chase, finishing 6th of 9, and has not run there since.
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