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Horse profile
Whynotnowken
- TrainerAnthony Honeyball
- OwnerBrian Derrick
- FamilyBallyorney Girl
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 2017
- Colour
- chestnut
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 20 Jan 2022, Wincanton (PU/10)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 20 Jan 22 | Wincanton | PU/10 | 125/1 | - | David Noonan | Anthony Honeyball | Timeform Premium Ratings Available At racingtv.com "National Hunt" Maiden Hurdle | Class 4 | Hurdle | 1m7f | Good to Soft | 11-6 | Monviel (IRE) | £4,085 | 62 | 1/9 |
| 19 Nov 21 | Chepstow | 10/10 | 8/1 | dist | Richie McLernon | Anthony Honeyball | Jankel Novices' Hurdle | Class 4 | Hurdle | 2m | Good to Soft | 10-12 | Chanceux (IRE) | £4,085 | - | 2/9 |
Timeform Premium Ratings Available At racingtv.com "National Hunt" Maiden Hurdle
Class 41m7fGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 20 Jan 22
- Course
- Wincanton
- Pos
- PU/10
- SP
- 125/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- David Noonan
- Trainer
- Anthony Honeyball
- Race
- Timeform Premium Ratings Available At racingtv.com "National Hunt" Maiden Hurdle
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 1m7f
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 11-6
- Winner / 2nd
- Monviel (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £4,085
- Days
- 62
- Future form
- 1/9
Jankel Novices' Hurdle
Class 42mGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 19 Nov 21
- Course
- Chepstow
- Pos
- 10/10
- SP
- 8/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Richie McLernon
- Trainer
- Anthony Honeyball
- Race
- Jankel Novices' Hurdle
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 10-12
- Winner / 2nd
- Chanceux (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £4,085
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 2/9
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 20 Jan 22 | Wincanton | Timeform Premium Ratings Available At racingtv.com "National Hunt" Maiden Hurdle | PU/10 | Monviel (IRE) | 1 | 17 Feb 22 | Sandown | Virgin Bet "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle |
| 19 Nov 21 | Chepstow | Jankel Novices' Hurdle | 10/10 | Chanceux (IRE) | 1 | 21 Dec 21 | Plumpton | Theo's Charm Memorial Novices' Hurdle |
| 19 Nov 21 | Chepstow | Jankel Novices' Hurdle | 10/10 | William Philo (GB) | 9 | 7 Dec 21 | Fontwell | Download The Casumo App Today Novices' Handicap Hurdle |
- PU/1020 Jan 22 · Wincanton
Timeform Premium Ratings Available At racingtv.com "National Hunt" Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 20 Jan 22
- Course
- Wincanton
- Race
- Timeform Premium Ratings Available At racingtv.com "National Hunt" Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- PU/10
- Winner next time
- Monviel (IRE)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 17 Feb 22
- At
- Sandown
- Race won
- Virgin Bet "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle
- 10/1019 Nov 21 · Chepstow
Jankel Novices' Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 19 Nov 21
- Course
- Chepstow
- Race
- Jankel Novices' Hurdle
- This horse
- 10/10
- Winner next time
- Chanceux (IRE)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 21 Dec 21
- At
- Plumpton
- Race won
- Theo's Charm Memorial Novices' Hurdle
- 10/1019 Nov 21 · Chepstow
Jankel Novices' Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 19 Nov 21
- Course
- Chepstow
- Race
- Jankel Novices' Hurdle
- This horse
- 10/10
- Winner next time
- William Philo (GB)
- Their pos
- 9
- Won on
- 7 Dec 21
- At
- Fontwell
- Race won
- Download The Casumo App Today Novices' Handicap Hurdle
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Anthony Honeyball | 19 Nov 21 | 20 Jan 22 | 10/10 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Anthony Honeyball
- Trainer
- Anthony Honeyball
- First run
- 19 Nov 21
- Last run
- 20 Jan 22
- First run for yard
- 10/10
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 19 Nov 21 | 20 Jan 22 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 19 Nov 21
- Last run
- 20 Jan 22
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchNotnowcato (GB)
Parent · 1
- SireNotnowcato (GB)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireInchinor (GB)
- Sire's damRambling Rose (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchMidnight Lira (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireMidnight Legend (GB)
- Dam's damBally Lira (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireLir (GB)
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Midnight Lira (GB) · by Midnight Legend (GB) · 1 winners from 4 runners
- Bally Lira (GB) · by Lir (GB) · 2 winners from 2 runners
- Ballyorney Girl (GB) · 1 winners from 3 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Breeder | Foaled | Colour | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Notnowcato (GB) | Midnight Lira (GB) | Midnight Legend (GB) | B A Derrick | 2 Apr 17 | chestnut | gelding | Flat 9.2f · NH 2m3f | Flat 18.0f · NH 2m3½f |
Notnowcato (GB)
- Sire
- Notnowcato (GB)
- Damsire
- Midnight Legend (GB)
- Breeder
- B A Derrick
- Foaled
- 2 Apr 17
- Colour
- chestnut
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 9.2f · NH 2m3f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 18.0f · NH 2m3½f
Progeny of Notnowcato (GB) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 1,087 | 109 | 264 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f | 444 | 47 | 104 | 2 | 0 | ||
| On Good to soft or yielding going | 247 | 33 | 57 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going | 87 | 12 | 16 | 2 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 1,087
- Wins
- 109
- Placed
- 264
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 444
- Wins
- 47
- Placed
- 104
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good to soft or yielding going
- Condition
- On Good to soft or yielding going
- Runs
- 247
- Wins
- 33
- Placed
- 57
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
- Runs
- 87
- Wins
- 12
- Placed
- 16
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Notnowcato (GB) × Midnight Legend (GB) mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 3 | 1 | 0 | 23 | 1 | 6 | £13,310 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 3
- Winners
- 1
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 23
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd/3rd
- 6
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £13,310
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Whynotnowroy (IRE) | 19 | 1 | 0 | £13,310 | €0 |
| Whynotnowken (IRE) | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
| Whynotnowbart (GB) | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Whynotnowroy (IRE)
- Horse
- Whynotnowroy (IRE)
- Runs
- 19
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £13,310
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Whynotnowken (IRE)
- Horse
- Whynotnowken (IRE)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Whynotnowbart (GB)
- Horse
- Whynotnowbart (GB)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 1 winners from 4 runners
Full siblings
- Whynotnowroy (IRE)1W · 19R
- Whynotnowbart (GB)0W · 2R
Half siblings
By Saddler's Rock (IRE)
- Just Call Me Buzz (GB)0W · 4R
Female line
- 1Midnight Lira (GB) · by Midnight Legend (GB)
- 2Bally Lira (GB) · by Lir (GB)
- 3Ballyorney Girl (GB)
Notable relatives
Uncle (out of 2nd dam)
- Bally Legend (GB)7W · 40R · 1 black-type
In brief
When was Whynotnowken foaled?
Whynotnowken (IRE), a chestnut racehorse, was foaled on 2 April 2017.
Who are the sire and dam of Whynotnowken?
Whynotnowken (IRE) is by Notnowcato (GB) out of Midnight Lira (GB), a daughter of Midnight Legend (GB), and was bred by B A Derrick.
Who trained Whynotnowken?
Whynotnowken (IRE) was trained by Anthony Honeyball and owned by Brian Derrick at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Whynotnowken's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Whynotnowken (IRE) ran 2 times without winning.
Is Whynotnowken still racing?
Whynotnowken (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 20 January 2022 at Wincanton in the Timeform Premium Ratings Available At racingtv.com "National Hunt" Maiden Hurdle (result: pulled up, 10 ran), and has not run there since.
Is Whynotnowken related to any top horses?
Whynotnowken (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Bally Legend (GB) (uncle, Grade 3 winner), from the Ballyorney Girl (GB) family.
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