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Horse profile
Why Not Dream
- TrainerRose Dobbin
- OwnerMr & Mrs J Morrison-Bell
- FamilyAbstraite
- Sex
- mare
- Foaled
- 2018
- Colour
- bay
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 29 May 2023, Cartmel (PU/11)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 29 May 23 | Cartmel | PU/11 | 50/1 | Dylan Johnston | Rose Dobbin | Hadwins Mares' Novices' Hurdle | Class 4 | Hurdle | 2m1f | Good | 10-9 | Titanium Moon (GB) | £3,812 | 19 | 2/9 |
| 10 May 23 | Kelso | UR/9 | 25/1 | Dylan Johnston | Rose Dobbin | Bruce Stevenson Insurance Brokers Novices' Hurdle | Class 4 | Hurdle | 2m5f | Good to Soft | 10-1 | Ballyporeen (IRE) | £4,357 | - | 2/6 |
Hadwins Mares' Novices' Hurdle
Class 42m1fGood
All fields
- Date
- 29 May 23
- Course
- Cartmel
- Pos
- PU/11
- SP
- 50/1
- Jockey
- Dylan Johnston
- Trainer
- Rose Dobbin
- Race
- Hadwins Mares' Novices' Hurdle
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m1f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 10-9
- Winner / 2nd
- Titanium Moon (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,812
- Days
- 19
- Future form
- 2/9
Bruce Stevenson Insurance Brokers Novices' Hurdle
Class 42m5fGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 10 May 23
- Course
- Kelso
- Pos
- UR/9
- SP
- 25/1
- Jockey
- Dylan Johnston
- Trainer
- Rose Dobbin
- Race
- Bruce Stevenson Insurance Brokers Novices' Hurdle
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m5f
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 10-1
- Winner / 2nd
- Ballyporeen (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £4,357
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 2/6
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 29 May 23 | Cartmel | Hadwins Mares' Novices' Hurdle | PU/11 | Titanium Moon (GB) | 1 | 20 Jun 23 | Stratford | Watch Racing TV With Free Trial Now Mares' Novices' Hurdle |
| 29 May 23 | Cartmel | Hadwins Mares' Novices' Hurdle | PU/11 | River Of Joy (GB) | 5 | 8 Jun 23 | Ffos Las | A B Glass Novices' Hurdle |
| 10 May 23 | Kelso | Bruce Stevenson Insurance Brokers Novices' Hurdle | UR/9 | Harper Valley (IRE) | 2 | 23 May 23 | Hexham | Welcome To Port Of Blyth Novices' Hurdle |
| 10 May 23 | Kelso | Bruce Stevenson Insurance Brokers Novices' Hurdle | UR/9 | Heeztheboy (IRE) | 6 | 13 Dec 23 | Hexham | Tant Pis Handicap Chase |
- PU/1129 May 23 · Cartmel
Hadwins Mares' Novices' Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 29 May 23
- Course
- Cartmel
- Race
- Hadwins Mares' Novices' Hurdle
- This horse
- PU/11
- Winner next time
- Titanium Moon (GB)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 20 Jun 23
- Race won
- Watch Racing TV With Free Trial Now Mares' Novices' Hurdle
- PU/1129 May 23 · Cartmel
Hadwins Mares' Novices' Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 29 May 23
- Course
- Cartmel
- Race
- Hadwins Mares' Novices' Hurdle
- This horse
- PU/11
- Winner next time
- River Of Joy (GB)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 8 Jun 23
- At
- Ffos Las
- Race won
- A B Glass Novices' Hurdle
- UR/910 May 23 · Kelso
Bruce Stevenson Insurance Brokers Novices' Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 10 May 23
- Course
- Kelso
- Race
- Bruce Stevenson Insurance Brokers Novices' Hurdle
- This horse
- UR/9
- Winner next time
- Harper Valley (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 23 May 23
- At
- Hexham
- Race won
- Welcome To Port Of Blyth Novices' Hurdle
- UR/910 May 23 · Kelso
Bruce Stevenson Insurance Brokers Novices' Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 10 May 23
- Course
- Kelso
- Race
- Bruce Stevenson Insurance Brokers Novices' Hurdle
- This horse
- UR/9
- Winner next time
- Heeztheboy (IRE)
- Their pos
- 6
- Won on
- 13 Dec 23
- At
- Hexham
- Race won
- Tant Pis Handicap Chase
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rose Dobbin | 10 May 23 | 29 May 23 | UR/9 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Rose Dobbin
- Trainer
- Rose Dobbin
- First run
- 10 May 23
- Last run
- 29 May 23
- First run for yard
- UR/9
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 10 May 23 | 29 May 23 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 10 May 23
- Last run
- 29 May 23
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchAsk (GB)
Parent · 1
- SireAsk (GB)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireSadler's Wells (USA)
- Sire's damRequest (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchMarvellous Dream (FR)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireMuhtathir (GB)
- Dam's damAbstraite (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Marvellous Dream (FR) · by Muhtathir (GB) · 1 winners from 4 runners
- Abstraite (GB) · 2 winners from 2 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Breeder | Foaled | Colour | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ask (GB) | Marvellous Dream (FR) | Muhtathir (GB) | Miss Roisin O'Brien | 12 Feb 18 | bay | mare | Flat 11.0f · NH 2m4½f | Flat 10.3f · NH 2m3f |
Ask (GB)
- Sire
- Ask (GB)
- Damsire
- Muhtathir (GB)
- Breeder
- Miss Roisin O'Brien
- Foaled
- 12 Feb 18
- Colour
- bay
- Sex
- mare
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 11.0f · NH 2m4½f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 10.3f · NH 2m3f
Progeny of Ask (GB) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 2,965 | 314 | 812 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f | 776 | 73 | 174 | 1 | 0 | ||
| On Good to soft or yielding going | 662 | 56 | 179 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going | 161 | 12 | 34 | 0 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 2,965
- Wins
- 314
- Placed
- 812
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 776
- Wins
- 73
- Placed
- 174
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good to soft or yielding going
- Condition
- On Good to soft or yielding going
- Runs
- 662
- Wins
- 56
- Placed
- 179
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
- Runs
- 161
- Wins
- 12
- Placed
- 34
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 0
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Ask (GB) × Muhtathir (GB) mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Why Not Dream (IRE) | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Why Not Dream (IRE)
- Horse
- Why Not Dream (IRE)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 1 winners from 4 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Ask (GB) out of Marvellous Dream (FR) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Kalanisi (IRE)
- Dreamisi (IRE)0W · 12R
- Champagne Express (GB)2W · 8R
By Mahler (GB)
- Marvellous Joe (IRE)0W · 7R
Female line
- 1Marvellous Dream (FR) · by Muhtathir (GB)
- 2Abstraite (GB)
Notable relatives
First cousin once removed
- Robin De Carlow (GB)8W · 15R · 4 black-type
In brief
When was Why Not Dream foaled?
Why Not Dream (IRE), a bay racehorse, was foaled on 12 February 2018.
Who are the sire and dam of Why Not Dream?
Why Not Dream (IRE) is by Ask (GB) out of Marvellous Dream (FR), a daughter of Muhtathir (GB), and was bred by Miss Roisin O'Brien.
Who trained Why Not Dream?
Why Not Dream (IRE) was trained by Rose Dobbin and owned by Mr & Mrs J Morrison-Bell at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Why Not Dream's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Why Not Dream (IRE) ran 2 times without winning.
Is Why Not Dream still racing?
Why Not Dream (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 29 May 2023 at Cartmel in the Hadwins Mares' Novices' Hurdle (result: pulled up, 11 ran), and has not run there since.
Is Why Not Dream related to any top horses?
Why Not Dream (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Robin De Carlow (GB) (first cousin once removed, Grade 3 winner), from the Abstraite (GB) family.
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