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Horse profile
Whenindoubtdoit
- TrainerDavid Arbuthnot
- OwnerA T A Wates
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 2007
- Highest OR
- 116
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 5 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £1,694 GB
- Last official rating
- 110 (Jumps)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 18 Jan 2014, Taunton (PU/9)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Headgear | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 18 Jan 14 | Taunton | PU/9 | 33/1 | - | Tom Cannon | David Arbuthnot | Bathwick Tyres Bath Novices' Handicap Chase | Class 4 | Chase | 2m7f | Heavy | 11-12 | 110 | b | Buywise (IRE) | £4,660 | 254 | 1/7 |
| 9 May 13 | Southwell | 11/13 | 15/2 | dist | Jason Maguire | David Arbuthnot | BetVictor Casino On Your Mobile Maiden Hurdle | Class 5 | Hurdle | 2m4½f | Good | 11-0 | 116 | p | Up For An Oscar (IRE) | £1,949 | 59 | 1/11 |
| 11 Mar 13 | Plumpton | 2/6 | 6/1 | dist | Tom Cannon | David Arbuthnot | Star Sports Cheltenham Preview At Plumpton "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle | Class 4 | Hurdle | 2m4½f | Soft | 10-9 | 116 | - | Broadway Buffalo (IRE) | £3,422 | 21 | 0/5 |
| 18 Feb 13 | Southwell | 3/11 | 50/1 | 5¾ | Tom Cannon | David Arbuthnot | British Stallion Studs coral.co.uk EBF "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle | Class 4 | Hurdle | 2m4½f | Good to Soft | 10-13 | - | - | Titchwood (IRE) | £3,444 | 286 | 0/10 |
| 8 May 12 | Exeter | 4/8 | 20/1 | dist | Andrew Thornton | David Arbuthnot | David James Foundation "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle | Class 4 | Hurdle | 2m2½f | Soft | 10-12 | - | p | Princely Player (IRE) | £2,599 | - | 0/6 |
Bathwick Tyres Bath Novices' Handicap Chase
Class 42m7fHeavy
All fields
- Date
- 18 Jan 14
- Course
- Taunton
- Pos
- PU/9
- SP
- 33/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Tom Cannon
- Trainer
- David Arbuthnot
- Race
- Bathwick Tyres Bath Novices' Handicap Chase
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Chase
- Dist
- 2m7f
- Going
- Heavy
- Wgt
- 11-12
- OR
- 110
- Headgear
- b
- Winner / 2nd
- Buywise (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £4,660
- Days
- 254
- Future form
- 1/7
BetVictor Casino On Your Mobile Maiden Hurdle
Class 52m4½fGood
All fields
- Date
- 9 May 13
- Course
- Southwell
- Pos
- 11/13
- SP
- 15/2
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Jason Maguire
- Trainer
- David Arbuthnot
- Race
- BetVictor Casino On Your Mobile Maiden Hurdle
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m4½f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 11-0
- OR
- 116
- Headgear
- p
- Winner / 2nd
- Up For An Oscar (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £1,949
- Days
- 59
- Future form
- 1/11
Star Sports Cheltenham Preview At Plumpton "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle
Class 42m4½fSoft
All fields
- Date
- 11 Mar 13
- Course
- Plumpton
- Pos
- 2/6
- SP
- 6/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Tom Cannon
- Trainer
- David Arbuthnot
- Race
- Star Sports Cheltenham Preview At Plumpton "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m4½f
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 10-9
- OR
- 116
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Broadway Buffalo (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,422
- Days
- 21
- Future form
- 0/5
British Stallion Studs coral.co.uk EBF "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle
Class 42m4½fGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 18 Feb 13
- Course
- Southwell
- Pos
- 3/11
- SP
- 50/1
- Btn
- 5¾
- Jockey
- Tom Cannon
- Trainer
- David Arbuthnot
- Race
- British Stallion Studs coral.co.uk EBF "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m4½f
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 10-13
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Titchwood (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,444
- Days
- 286
- Future form
- 0/10
David James Foundation "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle
Class 42m2½fSoft
All fields
- Date
- 8 May 12
- Course
- Exeter
- Pos
- 4/8
- SP
- 20/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Andrew Thornton
- Trainer
- David Arbuthnot
- Race
- David James Foundation "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m2½f
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 10-12
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- p
- Winner / 2nd
- Princely Player (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £2,599
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 0/6
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 18 Jan 14 | Taunton | Bathwick Tyres Bath Novices' Handicap Chase | PU/9 | Buywise (IRE) | 1 | 5 Feb 14 | Ludlow | Attwood Memorial Trophy Handicap Chase |
| 9 May 13 | Southwell | BetVictor Casino On Your Mobile Maiden Hurdle | 11/13 | Jojabean (IRE) | 4 | 29 May 13 | Fontwell | 32RedBingo.com Novices' Hurdle |
- PU/918 Jan 14 · Taunton
Bathwick Tyres Bath Novices' Handicap Chase
All fields
- Date
- 18 Jan 14
- Course
- Taunton
- Race
- Bathwick Tyres Bath Novices' Handicap Chase
- This horse
- PU/9
- Winner next time
- Buywise (IRE)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 5 Feb 14
- At
- Ludlow
- Race won
- Attwood Memorial Trophy Handicap Chase
- 11/139 May 13 · Southwell
BetVictor Casino On Your Mobile Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 9 May 13
- Course
- Southwell
- Race
- BetVictor Casino On Your Mobile Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- 11/13
- Winner next time
- Jojabean (IRE)
- Their pos
- 4
- Won on
- 29 May 13
- At
- Fontwell
- Race won
- 32RedBingo.com Novices' Hurdle
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| David Arbuthnot | 8 May 12 | 18 Jan 14 | 4/8 | 116 | 110 | 116 | 5 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £1,694 | €0 |
David Arbuthnot
- Trainer
- David Arbuthnot
- First run
- 8 May 12
- Last run
- 18 Jan 14
- First run for yard
- 4/8
- OR first run
- 116
- OR last run
- 110
- Best OR
- 116
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,694
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 5 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £1,694 | €0 | 116 | 8 May 12 | 18 Jan 14 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,694
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 116
- First run
- 8 May 12
- Last run
- 18 Jan 14
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 4 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £1,694 | €0 | ||
| Chase | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Hurdle
- Race type
- Hurdle
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,694
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Chase
- Race type
- Chase
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £506 | €0 | ||
| Soft | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,188 | €0 | ||
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good to Soft
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £506
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Soft
- Going
- Soft
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,188
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Heavy
- Going
- Heavy
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m2f to 2m5f | 4 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £1,694 | €0 | ||
| 2m6f to 3m1f | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
2m2f to 2m5f
- Distance
- 2m2f to 2m5f
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,694
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
2m6f to 3m1f
- Distance
- 2m6f to 3m1f
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Southwell | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £506 | €0 | ||
| Exeter | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £191 | €0 | ||
| Plumpton | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £998 | €0 | ||
| Taunton | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Southwell
- Course
- Southwell
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £506
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Exeter
- Course
- Exeter
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £191
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Plumpton
- Course
- Plumpton
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £998
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Taunton
- Course
- Taunton
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 4 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £1,694 | €0 | ||
| Class 5 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Class 4
- Class
- Class 4
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,694
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 5
- Class
- Class 5
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6 to 8 runners | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,188 | €0 | ||
| 9 to 12 runners | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £506 | €0 | ||
| 13 to 16 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
6 to 8 runners
- Runners
- 6 to 8 runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,188
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £506
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
13 to 16 runners
- Runners
- 13 to 16 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| January | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| February | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £506 | €0 | ||
| March | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £998 | €0 | ||
| May | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £191 | €0 |
January
- Month
- January
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
February
- Month
- February
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £506
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
March
- Month
- March
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £998
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
May
- Month
- May
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £191
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tom Cannon | 3 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £1,503 | €0 | ||
| Andrew Thornton | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £191 | €0 | ||
| Jason Maguire | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Tom Cannon
- Jockey
- Tom Cannon
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,503
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Andrew Thornton
- Jockey
- Andrew Thornton
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £191
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Jason Maguire
- Jockey
- Jason Maguire
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| David Arbuthnot | 5 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £1,694 | €0 |
David Arbuthnot
- Trainer
- David Arbuthnot
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,694
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £1,503 | €0 | ||
| p | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £191 | €0 | ||
| b | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,503
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
p
- Headgear
- p
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £191
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
b
- Headgear
- b
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £191 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £998 | €0 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 121 to 365 days | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £506 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £191
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £998
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
121 to 365 days
- Days since last run
- 121 to 365 days
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £506
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
By first-time headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| First time in any headgear | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £191 | €0 | ||
| First time blinkers | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| First time cheekpieces | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £191 | €0 | ||
| Headgear, all items worn before | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| No headgear | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £1,503 | €0 |
First time in any headgear
- Headgear
- First time in any headgear
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £191
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
First time blinkers
- Headgear
- First time blinkers
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
First time cheekpieces
- Headgear
- First time cheekpieces
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £191
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear, all items worn before
- Headgear
- Headgear, all items worn before
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,503
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
A run can count in more than one "first time" row (e.g. first-time blinkers and first headgear of any kind). First time is judged against earlier British and Irish runs only.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchShantou (USA)
Parent · 1
- SireShantou (USA)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireAlleged (USA)
- Sire's damShaima (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchWarning Cry (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireOver The River (FR)
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Warning Cry (IRE) · 0 winners from 2 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shantou (USA) | Warning Cry (IRE) | Over The River (FR) | gelding | Flat 14.2f · NH 2m4f | Flat 14.5f · NH 2m4½f |
Shantou (USA)
- Sire
- Shantou (USA)
- Damsire
- Over The River (FR)
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 14.2f · NH 2m4f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 14.5f · NH 2m4½f
Progeny of Shantou (USA) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 7,585 | 1,038 | 2,372 | 5 | 0 | ||
| At 2m2f to 2m5f | 2,743 | 385 | 877 | 4 | 0 | ||
| On Soft going | 2,069 | 309 | 648 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 2m2f to 2m5f on Soft going | 778 | 118 | 248 | 2 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 7,585
- Wins
- 1,038
- Placed
- 2,372
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 5
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m2f to 2m5f
- Condition
- At 2m2f to 2m5f
- Runs
- 2,743
- Wins
- 385
- Placed
- 877
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 4
- This horse wins
- 0
On Soft going
- Condition
- On Soft going
- Runs
- 2,069
- Wins
- 309
- Placed
- 648
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Soft going
- Condition
- At 2m2f to 2m5f on Soft going
- Runs
- 778
- Wins
- 118
- Placed
- 248
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Shantou (USA) × Over The River mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 4 | 0 | 0 | 13 | 0 | 2 | £1,933 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 4
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 13
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,933
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Go Sly Up (IRE) | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
| Evergreen Lane (IRE) | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
| Shantou River (IRE) | 4 | 0 | 0 | £239 | €0 |
| Whenindoubtdoit (IRE) | 5 | 0 | 0 | £1,694 | €0 |
Go Sly Up (IRE)
- Horse
- Go Sly Up (IRE)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Evergreen Lane (IRE)
- Horse
- Evergreen Lane (IRE)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Shantou River (IRE)
- Horse
- Shantou River (IRE)
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £239
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Whenindoubtdoit (IRE)
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,694
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 110 | 116 | 110 | 3 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 110
- Highest OR
- 116
- Lowest OR
- 110
- Rated runs
- 3
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 110 | 110 | 0 | 116 | -6 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 110
- OR last run
- 110
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 116
- v highest
- -6
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 0 winners from 2 runners
Full siblings
- Evergreen Lane (IRE)0W · 2R
Half siblings
Every other foal out of Warning Cry (IRE) to have raced in Britain or Ireland is a full sibling.
Female line
- 1Warning Cry (IRE)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Whenindoubtdoit foaled?
Whenindoubtdoit (IRE) was foaled in 2007.
Who are the sire and dam of Whenindoubtdoit?
Whenindoubtdoit (IRE) is by Shantou (USA) out of Warning Cry (IRE), a daughter of Over The River (FR).
Who trained Whenindoubtdoit?
Whenindoubtdoit (IRE) was trained by David Arbuthnot and owned by A T A Wates at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Whenindoubtdoit's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Whenindoubtdoit (IRE) ran 5 times without winning.
What was Whenindoubtdoit's official rating?
Whenindoubtdoit (IRE) was last officially rated 110 over jumps (career high 116).
Is Whenindoubtdoit still racing?
Whenindoubtdoit (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 18 January 2014 at Taunton in the Bathwick Tyres Bath Novices' Handicap Chase (result: pulled up, 9 ran), and has not run there since.
What is Whenindoubtdoit's record at Southwell?
Whenindoubtdoit (IRE) ran most often at Southwell, with no wins from 2 runs there.
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