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Horse profile
Until Forever
- TrainerDan Skelton
- OwnerHoward Spooner Ian Weaver
- FamilySugar Island
- Sex
- mare
- Foaled
- 2010
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 1 win from 2 runs (50%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £3,368 GB
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 7 May 2015, Wincanton (1/6)
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Headgear | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 7 May 15 | Wincanton | 1/6 | 8/1 | won 4 | Harry Skelton | Dan Skelton | Wessex Waste Novices' Hurdle | Class 4 | Hurdle | 2m5½f | Good | 10-5 | t | Profit Commission (IRE) | £3,249 | 31 | 0/5 |
| 6 Apr 15 | Huntingdon | 4/10 | 7/1 | 12¼ | Harry Skelton | Dan Skelton | Flexicruise Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race | Class 6 | NH Flat | 2m | Good to Soft | 10-9 | - | Brave Richard (IRE) | £1,625 | - | 2/6 |
Wessex Waste Novices' Hurdle
Class 42m5½fGood
All fields
- Date
- 7 May 15
- Course
- Wincanton
- Pos
- 1/6
- SP
- 8/1
- Btn
- won 4
- Jockey
- Harry Skelton
- Trainer
- Dan Skelton
- Race
- Wessex Waste Novices' Hurdle
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m5½f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 10-5
- Headgear
- t
- Winner / 2nd
- Profit Commission (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,249
- Days
- 31
- Future form
- 0/5
Flexicruise Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race
Class 62mGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 6 Apr 15
- Course
- Huntingdon
- Pos
- 4/10
- SP
- 7/1
- Btn
- 12¼
- Jockey
- Harry Skelton
- Trainer
- Dan Skelton
- Race
- Flexicruise Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 10-9
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Brave Richard (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £1,625
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 2/6
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6 Apr 15 | Huntingdon | Flexicruise Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race | 4/10 | Brave Richard (IRE) | 1 | 8 May 15 | Market Rasen | Next Meeting Sunday 17th May Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race (Div II) |
| 6 Apr 15 | Huntingdon | Flexicruise Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race | 4/10 | Penn Lane (IRE) | 3 | 14 Nov 15 | Uttoxeter | Wainwright Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race |
- 4/106 Apr 15 · Huntingdon
Flexicruise Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race
All fields
- Date
- 6 Apr 15
- Course
- Huntingdon
- Race
- Flexicruise Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race
- This horse
- 4/10
- Winner next time
- Brave Richard (IRE)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 8 May 15
- Race won
- Next Meeting Sunday 17th May Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race (Div II)
- 4/106 Apr 15 · Huntingdon
Flexicruise Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race
All fields
- Date
- 6 Apr 15
- Course
- Huntingdon
- Race
- Flexicruise Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race
- This horse
- 4/10
- Winner next time
- Penn Lane (IRE)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 14 Nov 15
- Race won
- Wainwright Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dan Skelton | 6 Apr 15 | 7 May 15 | 4/10 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £3,368 | €0 |
Dan Skelton
- Trainer
- Dan Skelton
- First run
- 6 Apr 15
- Last run
- 7 May 15
- First run for yard
- 4/10
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,368
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £3,368 | €0 | 6 Apr 15 | 7 May 15 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,368
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 6 Apr 15
- Last run
- 7 May 15
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchRobin Des Champs (FR)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchSugar Island (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireOscar (IRE)
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Sugar Island (IRE) · 2 winners from 5 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Robin Des Champs (FR) | Sugar Island (IRE) | Oscar (IRE) | mare | NH 2m4f | Flat 9.5f · NH 2m3½f |
Robin Des Champs (FR)
- Damsire
- Oscar (IRE)
- Sex
- mare
- Sire's avg winning distance
- NH 2m4f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 9.5f · NH 2m3½f
Progeny of Robin Des Champs (FR) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 3,552 | 464 | 1,062 | 2 | 1 | ||
| At 2m6f to 3m1f | 926 | 130 | 270 | 1 | 1 | ||
| On Good going | 1,203 | 176 | 364 | 1 | 1 | ||
| At 2m6f to 3m1f on Good going | 341 | 54 | 103 | 1 | 1 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 3,552
- Wins
- 464
- Placed
- 1,062
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 1
At 2m6f to 3m1f
- Condition
- At 2m6f to 3m1f
- Runs
- 926
- Wins
- 130
- Placed
- 270
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 1
On Good going
- Condition
- On Good going
- Runs
- 1,203
- Wins
- 176
- Placed
- 364
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 1
At 2m6f to 3m1f on Good going
- Condition
- At 2m6f to 3m1f on Good going
- Runs
- 341
- Wins
- 54
- Placed
- 103
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 1
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Robin Des Champs (FR) × Oscar mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 4 | 3 | 0 | 48 | 7 | 9 | £15,452 | €84,218 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 4
- Winners
- 3
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 48
- Wins
- 7
- 2nd/3rd
- 9
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £15,452
- Prize IRE (€)
- €84,218
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Donkey Years (IRE) | 34 | 4 | 0 | £0 | €83,693 |
| Simon Squirrel (IRE) | 8 | 2 | 0 | £12,084 | €0 |
| Until Forever (IRE) | 2 | 1 | 0 | £3,368 | €0 |
| Robindale (IRE) | 4 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €525 |
Donkey Years (IRE)
- Horse
- Donkey Years (IRE)
- Runs
- 34
- Wins
- 4
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €83,693
Simon Squirrel (IRE)
- Horse
- Simon Squirrel (IRE)
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £12,084
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Until Forever (IRE)
- Horse
- Until Forever (IRE)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,368
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Robindale (IRE)
- Horse
- Robindale (IRE)
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €525
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 2 winners from 5 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Robin Des Champs (FR) out of Sugar Island (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Flemensfirth (USA)
- On Impulse (IRE)2W · 7R
- Harpurs Lane (IRE)0W · 4R
By Beneficial (GB)
- Sizing Julie (IRE)0W · 4R
By Presenting (GB)
- Presenting Europe (IRE)0W · 2R
Female line
- 1Sugar Island (IRE)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Until Forever foaled?
Until Forever (IRE) was foaled in 2010.
Who are the sire and dam of Until Forever?
Until Forever (IRE) is by Robin Des Champs (FR) out of Sugar Island (IRE), a daughter of Oscar (IRE).
Who trained Until Forever?
Until Forever (IRE) was trained by Dan Skelton and owned by Howard Spooner Ian Weaver at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Until Forever's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Until Forever (IRE) won 1 of 2 races (50%).
What is Until Forever's biggest win?
Until Forever (IRE)'s only win in Britain or Ireland came in the Wessex Waste Novices' Hurdle at Wincanton on 7 May 2015.
Has Until Forever ever been beaten?
Until Forever (IRE) was beaten once in 2 runs in Britain and Ireland, on 6 April 2015 at Huntingdon (4th of 10).
Is Until Forever still racing?
Until Forever (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 7 May 2015 at Wincanton in the Wessex Waste Novices' Hurdle, finishing 1st of 6, and has not run there since.
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