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Horse profile
Too Logical
- TrainerPat Murphy
- OwnerD Tylden Wright
- FamilyLady Andrea
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 1994
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 1 run (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 8 Sep 1997, Bath (10/18)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8 Sep 97 | Bath | 10/18 | 66/1 | 29 | Steve Drowne | Pat Murphy | Avon Maiden Stakes Class D | Class 4 | Flat Turf | 1m3½f | Good | 8-12 | Tikopia (GB) | £4,011 | 1/14 |
Avon Maiden Stakes Class D
Class 41m3½fGood
All fields
- Date
- 8 Sep 97
- Course
- Bath
- Pos
- 10/18
- SP
- 66/1
- Btn
- 29
- Jockey
- Steve Drowne
- Trainer
- Pat Murphy
- Race
- Avon Maiden Stakes Class D
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m3½f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 8-12
- Winner / 2nd
- Tikopia (GB)
- Winner prize
- £4,011
- Future form
- 1/14
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8 Sep 97 | Bath | Avon Maiden Stakes Class D | 10/18 | Devilish Charm (USA) | 5 | 27 Sep 97 | Haydock | September Maiden Handicap Class E |
- 10/188 Sep 97 · Bath
Avon Maiden Stakes Class D
All fields
- Date
- 8 Sep 97
- Course
- Bath
- Race
- Avon Maiden Stakes Class D
- This horse
- 10/18
- Winner next time
- Devilish Charm (USA)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 27 Sep 97
- At
- Haydock
- Race won
- September Maiden Handicap Class E
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Pat Murphy | 8 Sep 97 | 8 Sep 97 | 10/18 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Pat Murphy
- Trainer
- Pat Murphy
- First run
- 8 Sep 97
- Last run
- 8 Sep 97
- First run for yard
- 10/18
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 8 Sep 97 | 8 Sep 97 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 8 Sep 97
- Last run
- 8 Sep 97
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchBroken Hearted (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchLogical Lady (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireTina's Pet (GB)
- Dam's damLady Andrea (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Logical Lady (GB) · by Tina's Pet (GB) · 0 winners from 2 runners
- Lady Andrea (GB) · 4 winners from 5 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Broken Hearted (GB) | Logical Lady (GB) | Tina's Pet (GB) | gelding | Flat 9.5f · NH 2m3½f | Flat 6.2f · NH 2m2f |
Broken Hearted (GB)
- Damsire
- Tina's Pet (GB)
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 9.5f · NH 2m3½f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 6.2f · NH 2m2f
Progeny of Broken Hearted (GB) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 737 | 71 | 193 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 12f to 13f | 122 | 12 | 36 | 1 | 0 | ||
| On Good going | 233 | 16 | 58 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 12f to 13f on Good going | 48 | 5 | 13 | 1 | 0 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 737
- Wins
- 71
- Placed
- 193
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 12f to 13f
- Condition
- At 12f to 13f
- Runs
- 122
- Wins
- 12
- Placed
- 36
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good going
- Condition
- On Good going
- Runs
- 233
- Wins
- 16
- Placed
- 58
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 12f to 13f on Good going
- Condition
- At 12f to 13f on Good going
- Runs
- 48
- Wins
- 5
- Placed
- 13
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Broken Hearted (GB) × Tina's Pet mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Too Logical (GB) | 1 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Too Logical (GB)
- Horse
- Too Logical (GB)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 0 winners from 2 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Broken Hearted (GB) out of Logical Lady (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Thowra (FR)
- Karline Lady (GB)0W · 1R
Female line
- 1Logical Lady (GB) · by Tina's Pet (GB)
- 2Lady Andrea (GB)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Too Logical foaled?
Too Logical (GB) was foaled in 1994.
Who are the sire and dam of Too Logical?
Too Logical (GB) is by Broken Hearted (GB) out of Logical Lady (GB), a daughter of Tina's Pet (GB).
Who trained Too Logical?
Too Logical (GB) was trained by Pat Murphy and owned by D Tylden Wright at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Too Logical's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Too Logical (GB) ran 1 time without winning.
Is Too Logical still racing?
Too Logical (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 8 September 1997 at Bath in the Avon Maiden Stakes Class D, finishing 10th of 18, and has not run there since.
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