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Horse profile

Thistle Do (IRE)

Dylan Thomas (IRE) × Nora's Flame (IRE) (Flemensfirth (USA))
Sex
gelding
Foaled
2016
Colour
bay

See also: Thistle Do (GB) · Micky Hammond · 9 runs · 0 wins

Highest OR
85
Record (GB & IRE)
0 wins from 4 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£1,078 GB
Last official rating
85 (Jumps)
Last run (GB & IRE)
2 Oct 2022, Uttoxeter (3/8)
Last win (GB & IRE)
Never won
Recent form
6573

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtORHeadgearWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
2 Oct 22Uttoxeter3/866/14¼Mr Huw EdwardsSimon EdwardsFollow @BresBet On Twitter Handicap Hurdle (Div II)Class 5Hurdle2mGood to Soft10-885hLucky Lover Boy (IRE)£4,684251/7
7 Sep 22Uttoxeter7/1250/126½Alex EdwardsSimon EdwardsHomeserve Maiden HurdleClass 4Hurdle2m4fGood11-1-hColdstream (IRE)£4,901160/10
22 Aug 22Stratford5/9125/1distMr Huw EdwardsSimon EdwardsGrace & Dotty Maiden HurdleClass 4Hurdle2m2½fGood10-11-hBagheera Ginge (GB)£4,357401/7
13 Jul 22Uttoxeter6/628/1distMr Huw EdwardsSimon EdwardsBrowns Scrap Metal Processing Maiden HurdleClass 4Hurdle2m4fGood10-11-hFenna's Loss (IRE)£4,520-0/4
  • 3/82 Oct 22 · Uttoxeter66/1

    Follow @BresBet On Twitter Handicap Hurdle (Div II)

    Class 52mGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    2 Oct 22
    Course
    Uttoxeter
    Pos
    3/8
    SP
    66/1
    Btn
    4¼
    Race
    Follow @BresBet On Twitter Handicap Hurdle (Div II)
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    10-8
    OR
    85
    Headgear
    h
    Winner prize
    £4,684
    Days
    25
    Future form
    1/7
  • 7/127 Sep 22 · Uttoxeter50/1

    Homeserve Maiden Hurdle

    Class 42m4fGood

    All fields
    Date
    7 Sep 22
    Course
    Uttoxeter
    Pos
    7/12
    SP
    50/1
    Btn
    26½
    Race
    Homeserve Maiden Hurdle
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    11-1
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    h
    Winner / 2nd
    Coldstream (IRE)
    Winner prize
    £4,901
    Days
    16
    Future form
    0/10
  • 5/922 Aug 22 · Stratford125/1

    Grace & Dotty Maiden Hurdle

    Class 42m2½fGood

    All fields
    Date
    22 Aug 22
    Course
    Stratford
    Pos
    5/9
    SP
    125/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Grace & Dotty Maiden Hurdle
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m2½f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    10-11
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    h
    Winner prize
    £4,357
    Days
    40
    Future form
    1/7
  • 6/613 Jul 22 · Uttoxeter28/1

    Browns Scrap Metal Processing Maiden Hurdle

    Class 42m4fGood

    All fields
    Date
    13 Jul 22
    Course
    Uttoxeter
    Pos
    6/6
    SP
    28/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Browns Scrap Metal Processing Maiden Hurdle
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    10-11
    OR
    -
    Headgear
    h
    Winner / 2nd
    Fenna's Loss (IRE)
    Winner prize
    £4,520
    Days
    -
    Future form
    0/4

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
2 Oct 22UttoxeterFollow @BresBet On Twitter Handicap Hurdle (Div II)3/8Couldbeaweapon (IRE)227 Oct 22WorcesterGet Pulling With PJ Nicholls Ssangyong Novices' Handicap Hurdle
22 Aug 22StratfordGrace & Dotty Maiden Hurdle5/9Bagheera Ginge (GB)116 Sep 22Newton AbbotDevondale Electrical Novices' Hurdle
  • 3/82 Oct 22 · Uttoxeter

    Follow @BresBet On Twitter Handicap Hurdle (Div II)

    All fields
    Date
    2 Oct 22
    Course
    Uttoxeter
    Race
    Follow @BresBet On Twitter Handicap Hurdle (Div II)
    This horse
    3/8
    Winner next time
    Couldbeaweapon (IRE)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    27 Oct 22
    Race won
    Get Pulling With PJ Nicholls Ssangyong Novices' Handicap Hurdle
  • 5/922 Aug 22 · Stratford

    Grace & Dotty Maiden Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    22 Aug 22
    Course
    Stratford
    Race
    Grace & Dotty Maiden Hurdle
    This horse
    5/9
    Winner next time
    Bagheera Ginge (GB)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    16 Sep 22
    Race won
    Devondale Electrical Novices' Hurdle

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardOR first runOR last runBest ORRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Simon Edwards13 Jul 222 Oct 226/685858540010.0%25.0%£1,078€0
Simon Edwards
First run
13 Jul 22
Last run
2 Oct 22
First run for yard
6/6
OR first run
85
OR last run
85
Best OR
85
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,078
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)Best ORFirst runLast run
National Hunt40010.0%25.0%£1,078€08513 Jul 222 Oct 22
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,078
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Best OR
85
First run
13 Jul 22
Last run
2 Oct 22

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Hurdle40010.0%25.0%£1,078€0
Hurdle
Race type
Hurdle
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,078
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Good30000.0%0.0%£0€0
Good to Soft10010.0%100.0%£1,078€0
Good
Going
Good
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good to Soft
Going
Good to Soft
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,078
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
2m to 2m1f10010.0%100.0%£1,078€0
2m2f to 2m5f30000.0%0.0%£0€0
2m to 2m1f
Distance
2m to 2m1f
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,078
Prize IRE (€)
€0
2m2f to 2m5f
Distance
2m2f to 2m5f
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Uttoxeter30010.0%33.3%£1,078€0
Stratford10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Uttoxeter
Course
Uttoxeter
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£1,078
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Stratford
Course
Stratford
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Class 430000.0%0.0%£0€0
Class 510010.0%100.0%£1,078€0
Class 4
Class
Class 4
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Class 5
Class
Class 5
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,078
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
6 to 8 runners20010.0%50.0%£1,078€0
9 to 12 runners20000.0%0.0%£0€0
6 to 8 runners
Runners
6 to 8 runners
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,078
Prize IRE (€)
€0
9 to 12 runners
Runners
9 to 12 runners
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
July10000.0%0.0%£0€0
August10000.0%0.0%£0€0
September10000.0%0.0%£0€0
October10010.0%100.0%£1,078€0
July
Month
July
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
August
Month
August
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
September
Month
September
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
October
Month
October
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,078
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Mr Huw Edwards30010.0%33.3%£1,078€0
Alex Edwards10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Mr Huw Edwards
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£1,078
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Alex Edwards
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Simon Edwards40010.0%25.0%£1,078€0
Simon Edwards
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,078
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
h40010.0%25.0%£1,078€0
h
Headgear
h
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,078
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10000.0%0.0%£0€0
15 to 30 days20010.0%50.0%£1,078€0
31 to 60 days10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
15 to 30 days
Days since last run
15 to 30 days
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,078
Prize IRE (€)
€0
31 to 60 days
Days since last run
31 to 60 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

By first-time headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
First time in any headgear10000.0%0.0%£0€0
First time hood10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Headgear, all items worn before30010.0%33.3%£1,078€0
First time in any headgear
Headgear
First time in any headgear
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
First time hood
Headgear
First time hood
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Headgear, all items worn before
Headgear
Headgear, all items worn before
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£1,078
Prize IRE (€)
€0

A run can count in more than one "first time" row (e.g. first-time blinkers and first headgear of any kind). First time is judged against earlier British and Irish runs only.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchDylan Thomas (IRE)

Parent · 1

  1. SireDylan Thomas (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireDanehill (USA)
  2. Sire's damLagrion (USA)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchNora's Flame (IRE)

Parent · 1

  1. DamNora's Flame (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireFlemensfirth (USA)
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Dylan Thomas (IRE)
Nora's Flame (IRE)
Danehill (USA)
Lagrion (USA)
Flemensfirth (USA)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseThistle Do (IRE)
Sexgelding
Foaled2016
SireDylan Thomas (IRE)
DamNora's Flame (IRE)
DamsireFlemensfirth (USA)
Sire's sireDanehill (USA)
Sire's damLagrion (USA)
Dam's produce0 winners from 3 runners
Notable siblingKnot Another One (IRE)

Female line

  1. Nora's Flame (IRE) · 0 winners from 3 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireBreederFoaledColourSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Dylan Thomas (IRE)Nora's Flame (IRE)Flemensfirth (USA)Tim O Leary21 May 16baygeldingFlat 9.8f · NH 2m3fFlat 12.1f · NH 2m4f
Dylan Thomas (IRE)
Breeder
Tim O Leary
Foaled
21 May 16
Colour
bay
Sex
gelding
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 9.8f · NH 2m3f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 12.1f · NH 2m4f

Progeny of Dylan Thomas (IRE) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs3,58637191910.3%25.6%40
At 2m to 2m1f1,6461614049.8%24.5%10
On Good to soft or yielding going834731918.8%22.9%10
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going37629807.7%21.3%10
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
3,586
Wins
371
Placed
919
Win %
10.3%
Place %
25.6%
This horse runs
4
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f
Runs
1,646
Wins
161
Placed
404
Win %
9.8%
Place %
24.5%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
0
On Good to soft or yielding going
Condition
On Good to soft or yielding going
Runs
834
Wins
73
Placed
191
Win %
8.8%
Place %
22.9%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
Runs
376
Wins
29
Placed
80
Win %
7.7%
Place %
21.3%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Dylan Thomas (IRE) × Flemensfirth (USA) mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt7228.6%05761510.5%£40,782€7,175
Flat200.0%07010.0%£1,224€0
All runs7228.6%0646169.4%£42,006€7,175
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
7
Winners
2
Winners %
28.6%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
57
Wins
6
2nd/3rd
15
Win %
10.5%
Prize GB (£)
£40,782
Prize IRE (€)
€7,175
Flat
Code
Flat
Runners
2
Winners
0
Winners %
0.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
7
Wins
0
2nd/3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,224
Prize IRE (€)
€0
All runs
Code
All runs
Runners
7
Winners
2
Winners %
28.6%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
64
Wins
6
2nd/3rd
16
Win %
9.4%
Prize GB (£)
£42,006
Prize IRE (€)
€7,175

All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Little Jessture (IRE)1740£22,226€0
Mumford's Magic (IRE)1320£18,702€0
Deputy Thomas (IRE)200£0€0
Thistle Do (IRE)400£1,078€0
Lawd Dylan (IRE)500£0€0
Aintree Gin (IRE)600£0€0
Dylan Lombardy (IRE)1700£0€7,175
Little Jessture (IRE)
Runs
17
Wins
4
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£22,226
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Mumford's Magic (IRE)
Runs
13
Wins
2
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£18,702
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Deputy Thomas (IRE)
Runs
2
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Thistle Do (IRE)
Runs
4
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£1,078
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Lawd Dylan (IRE)
Runs
5
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Aintree Gin (IRE)
Runs
6
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Dylan Lombardy (IRE)
Runs
17
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€7,175

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Ratings

Official ratings

CodeCurrent ORHighest ORLowest ORRated runs
National Hunt8585851
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
85
Highest OR
85
Lowest OR
85
Rated runs
1

Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.

Official rating by run

DateCourseCodeORPos
2 Oct 22UttoxeterNH853/8

Current mark v winning marks

CodeCurrent OROR last runChangeHighest ORv highest
National Hunt85850850
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
85
OR last run
85
Change
0
Highest OR
85
v highest
0

Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.

Family

Dam summary

Nora's Flame (IRE)

G1 winners
0
Produce
0 winners from 3 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Dylan Thomas (IRE) out of Nora's Flame (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Ocovango (GB)

By Blue Bresil (FR)

Female line

  1. 1Nora's Flame (IRE)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

In brief

When was Thistle Do foaled?

Thistle Do (IRE), a bay racehorse, was foaled on 21 May 2016.

Who are the sire and dam of Thistle Do?

Thistle Do (IRE) is by Dylan Thomas (IRE) out of Nora's Flame (IRE), a daughter of Flemensfirth (USA), and was bred by Tim O Leary.

Who trained Thistle Do?

Thistle Do (IRE) was trained by Simon Edwards and owned by Simon Edwards at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Thistle Do's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Thistle Do (IRE) ran 4 times without winning.

What was Thistle Do's official rating?

Thistle Do (IRE) was last officially rated 85 over jumps (also the career high).

Is Thistle Do still racing?

Thistle Do (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 2 October 2022 at Uttoxeter in the Follow @BresBet On Twitter Handicap Hurdle, finishing 3rd of 8, and has not run there since.

What is Thistle Do's record at Uttoxeter?

Thistle Do (IRE) ran most often at Uttoxeter, with no wins from 3 runs there.

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