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Horse profile
The Same Again I
- TrainerThomas Cooper
- OwnerN Collins
- FamilyTourneys Girl
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 2005
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 3 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 7 Jan 2012, Thurles (IRE) (UR/12)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 7 Jan 12 | Thurles (IRE) | UR/12 | 100/1 | - | B J Cooper | Thomas Cooper | Devil's Bit Beginners Chase | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Chase | 3m | Heavy | 11-12 | Berties Dream (IRE) | €5,520 | 10 | 0/9 |
| 28 Dec 11 | Limerick (IRE) | 9/12 | 50/1 | dist | Keith Donoghue | Thomas Cooper | Emmet Leahy Millstream Memorial Beginners Chase | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Chase | 2m1f | Heavy | 11-9 | Friendly Society (IRE) | €8,625 | 52 | 0/11 |
| 6 Nov 11 | Cork (IRE) | 15/20 | 50/1 | dist | Mark Walsh | Thomas Cooper | paddypower.com Mobile Betting INH Stallion Owners European Breeders Fund Maid… | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m4f | Soft | 11-12 | Jetson (IRE) | €9,660 | - | 2/16 |
Devil's Bit Beginners Chase
Non-handicap (unclassified)3mHeavy
All fields
- Date
- 7 Jan 12
- Course
- Thurles (IRE)
- Pos
- UR/12
- SP
- 100/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- B J Cooper
- Trainer
- Thomas Cooper
- Race
- Devil's Bit Beginners Chase
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Chase
- Dist
- 3m
- Going
- Heavy
- Wgt
- 11-12
- Winner / 2nd
- Berties Dream (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €5,520
- Days
- 10
- Future form
- 0/9
Emmet Leahy Millstream Memorial Beginners Chase
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m1fHeavy
All fields
- Date
- 28 Dec 11
- Course
- Limerick (IRE)
- Pos
- 9/12
- SP
- 50/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Keith Donoghue
- Trainer
- Thomas Cooper
- Race
- Emmet Leahy Millstream Memorial Beginners Chase
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Chase
- Dist
- 2m1f
- Going
- Heavy
- Wgt
- 11-9
- Winner / 2nd
- Friendly Society (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €8,625
- Days
- 52
- Future form
- 0/11
paddypower.com Mobile Betting INH Stallion Owners European Breeders Fund Maid…
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m4fSoft
All fields
- Date
- 6 Nov 11
- Course
- Cork (IRE)
- Pos
- 15/20
- SP
- 50/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Mark Walsh
- Trainer
- Thomas Cooper
- Race
- paddypower.com Mobile Betting INH Stallion Owners European Breeders Fund Maid…
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m4f
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 11-12
- Winner / 2nd
- Jetson (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €9,660
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 2/16
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6 Nov 11 | Cork (IRE) | paddypower.com Mobile Betting INH Stallion Owners European Breeders Fund Maid… | 15/20 | Daring Article (IRE) | 2 | 23 Nov 11 | Cork (IRE) | www.racinghomeforeaster.com Maiden Hurdle |
| 6 Nov 11 | Cork (IRE) | paddypower.com Mobile Betting INH Stallion Owners European Breeders Fund Maid… | 15/20 | Lord Windermere (IRE) | - | 17 Nov 11 | Thurles (IRE) | Munster 5yo Maiden Hurdle |
- 15/206 Nov 11 · Cork (IRE)
paddypower.com Mobile Betting INH Stallion Owners European Breeders Fund Maid…
All fields
- Date
- 6 Nov 11
- Course
- Cork (IRE)
- Race
- paddypower.com Mobile Betting INH Stallion Owners European Breeders Fund Maid…
- This horse
- 15/20
- Winner next time
- Daring Article (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 23 Nov 11
- Race won
- www.racinghomeforeaster.com Maiden Hurdle
- 15/206 Nov 11 · Cork (IRE)
paddypower.com Mobile Betting INH Stallion Owners European Breeders Fund Maid…
All fields
- Date
- 6 Nov 11
- Course
- Cork (IRE)
- Race
- paddypower.com Mobile Betting INH Stallion Owners European Breeders Fund Maid…
- This horse
- 15/20
- Winner next time
- Lord Windermere (IRE)
- Their pos
- -
- Won on
- 17 Nov 11
- Race won
- Munster 5yo Maiden Hurdle
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thomas Cooper | 6 Nov 11 | 7 Jan 12 | 15/20 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Thomas Cooper
- Trainer
- Thomas Cooper
- First run
- 6 Nov 11
- Last run
- 7 Jan 12
- First run for yard
- 15/20
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 6 Nov 11 | 7 Jan 12 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 6 Nov 11
- Last run
- 7 Jan 12
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Chase | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Hurdle
- Race type
- Hurdle
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Chase
- Race type
- Chase
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Heavy | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Soft
- Going
- Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Heavy
- Going
- Heavy
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m to 2m1f | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 2m2f to 2m5f | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 2m6f to 3m1f | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
2m to 2m1f
- Distance
- 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
2m2f to 2m5f
- Distance
- 2m2f to 2m5f
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
2m6f to 3m1f
- Distance
- 2m6f to 3m1f
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cork (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Limerick (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Thurles (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Cork (IRE)
- Course
- Cork (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Limerick (IRE)
- Course
- Limerick (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Thurles (IRE)
- Course
- Thurles (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Non-handicap (unclassified) | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 9 to 12 runners | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 17+ runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
17+ runners
- Runners
- 17+ runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| January | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| November | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| December | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
January
- Month
- January
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
November
- Month
- November
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
December
- Month
- December
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| B J Cooper | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Keith Donoghue | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Mark Walsh | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
B J Cooper
- Jockey
- B J Cooper
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Keith Donoghue
- Jockey
- Keith Donoghue
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Mark Walsh
- Jockey
- Mark Walsh
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thomas Cooper | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Thomas Cooper
- Trainer
- Thomas Cooper
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 8 to 14 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
8 to 14 days
- Days since last run
- 8 to 14 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchFlemensfirth (USA)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireAlleged (USA)
- Sire's damEtheldreda (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchQuelle Femme (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireNaheez (USA)
- Dam's damTourneys Girl (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Quelle Femme (IRE) · by Naheez (USA) · 2 winners from 3 runners
- Tourneys Girl (GB) · 2 winners from 8 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flemensfirth (USA) | Quelle Femme (IRE) | Naheez (USA) | gelding | Flat 15.8f · NH 2m4f | NH 2m5f |
Flemensfirth (USA)
- Damsire
- Naheez (USA)
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 15.8f · NH 2m4f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- NH 2m5f
Progeny of Flemensfirth (USA) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 18,774 | 2,194 | 5,527 | 3 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f | 5,700 | 707 | 1,786 | 1 | 0 | ||
| On Heavy going | 3,211 | 370 | 965 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f on Heavy going | 991 | 120 | 322 | 1 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 18,774
- Wins
- 2,194
- Placed
- 5,527
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 5,700
- Wins
- 707
- Placed
- 1,786
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
On Heavy going
- Condition
- On Heavy going
- Runs
- 3,211
- Wins
- 370
- Placed
- 965
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f on Heavy going
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f on Heavy going
- Runs
- 991
- Wins
- 120
- Placed
- 322
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Flemensfirth (USA) × Naheez mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 2 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 0 | 1 | £1,107 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 2
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,107
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Moore Margaux (IRE) | 3 | 0 | 0 | £1,107 | €0 |
| The Same Again I (IRE) | 3 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Moore Margaux (IRE)
- Horse
- Moore Margaux (IRE)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,107
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
The Same Again I (IRE)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 2 winners from 3 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Quelle Femme (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Insan (USA)
- Sergeant Harper (IRE)2W · 6R
By Beneficial (GB)
- Thundering Steel (IRE)1W · 5R
Female line
- 1Quelle Femme (IRE) · by Naheez (USA)
- 2Tourneys Girl (GB)
Notable relatives
First cousin
- Total Enjoyment (IRE)4W · 7R · 1 black-type
Uncle (out of 2nd dam)
- Feeling Grand (IRE)6W · 32R · 1 black-type
In brief
When was The Same Again I foaled?
The Same Again I (IRE) was foaled in 2005.
Who are the sire and dam of The Same Again I?
The Same Again I (IRE) is by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Quelle Femme (IRE), a daughter of Naheez (USA).
Who trained The Same Again I?
The Same Again I (IRE) was trained by Thomas Cooper and owned by N Collins at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is The Same Again I's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, The Same Again I (IRE) ran 3 times without winning.
Is The Same Again I still racing?
The Same Again I (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 7 January 2012 at Thurles (IRE) in the Devil's Bit Beginners Chase (result: unseated rider, 12 ran), and has not run there since.
Is The Same Again I related to any top horses?
The Same Again I (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Total Enjoyment (IRE) (first cousin, Grade 3 winner) and Feeling Grand (IRE) (uncle, Listed winner), from the Tourneys Girl (GB) family.
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