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The Same (FR) silks

Horse profile

The Same

Network (GER) × Escort'beauty (FR) (Robin Des Champs (FR))
Sex
gelding
Foaled
2017
Colour
bay
Highest OR
117
Record (GB & IRE)
2 wins from 4 runs (50%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£15,168 GB
Last official rating
117 (Jumps)
Last run (GB & IRE)
23 Nov 2023, Market Rasen (1/6)
Recent form
1321

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtORWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
23 Nov 23Market Rasen1/67/4Fwon 9½Sean BowenOlly MurphyPertemps Network Novices' Handicap ChaseClass 4Chase2m5½fGood to Soft11-7117Hall Lane (IRE)£8,0351981/5
9 May 23Ffos Las2/68/15F5½Sean BowenOlly MurphyCazoo Novices' HurdleClass 4Hurdle2m4fSoft11-10117Manorbank (IRE)£4,357300/4
9 Apr 23Ffos Las3/64/15½Fergus GregoryOlly Murphy3As Leisure New & Used Caravan Sales Novices' HurdleClass 4Hurdle2m4fSoft11-12-Cuthbert Dibble (IRE)£4,520191/4
21 Mar 23Market Rasen1/84/5Fwon 11Fergus GregoryOlly MurphyPremier League Offers At Rhino.Bet Maiden HurdleClass 4Hurdle2m4½fSoft11-7-Sageburg County (IRE)£4,085-0/5
  • 1/623 Nov 23 · Market Rasen7/4F

    Pertemps Network Novices' Handicap Chase

    Class 42m5½fGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    23 Nov 23
    Pos
    1/6
    SP
    7/4F
    Btn
    won 9½
    Race
    Pertemps Network Novices' Handicap Chase
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m5½f
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    11-7
    OR
    117
    Winner / 2nd
    Hall Lane (IRE)
    Winner prize
    £8,035
    Days
    198
    Future form
    1/5
  • 2/69 May 23 · Ffos Las8/15F

    Cazoo Novices' Hurdle

    Class 42m4fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    9 May 23
    Course
    Ffos Las
    Pos
    2/6
    SP
    8/15F
    Btn
    5½
    Race
    Cazoo Novices' Hurdle
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    11-10
    OR
    117
    Winner / 2nd
    Manorbank (IRE)
    Winner prize
    £4,357
    Days
    30
    Future form
    0/4
  • 3/69 Apr 23 · Ffos Las4/1

    3As Leisure New & Used Caravan Sales Novices' Hurdle

    Class 42m4fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    9 Apr 23
    Course
    Ffos Las
    Pos
    3/6
    SP
    4/1
    Btn
    5½
    Race
    3As Leisure New & Used Caravan Sales Novices' Hurdle
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    11-12
    OR
    -
    Winner prize
    £4,520
    Days
    19
    Future form
    1/4
  • 1/821 Mar 23 · Market Rasen4/5F

    Premier League Offers At Rhino.Bet Maiden Hurdle

    Class 42m4½fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    21 Mar 23
    Pos
    1/8
    SP
    4/5F
    Btn
    won 11
    Race
    Premier League Offers At Rhino.Bet Maiden Hurdle
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m4½f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    11-7
    OR
    -
    Winner prize
    £4,085
    Days
    -
    Future form
    0/5

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
23 Nov 23Market RasenPertemps Network Novices' Handicap Chase1/6Prairie Wolf (IRE)315 Dec 23DoncasterAt The Races App Market Movers Handicap Chase
9 Apr 23Ffos Las3As Leisure New & Used Caravan Sales Novices' Hurdle3/6Cuthbert Dibble (IRE)130 Jan 24ChepstowCuffe And Taylor Handicap Hurdle
  • 1/623 Nov 23 · Market Rasen

    Pertemps Network Novices' Handicap Chase

    All fields
    Date
    23 Nov 23
    Race
    Pertemps Network Novices' Handicap Chase
    This horse
    1/6
    Winner next time
    Prairie Wolf (IRE)
    Their pos
    3
    Won on
    15 Dec 23
    Race won
    At The Races App Market Movers Handicap Chase
  • 3/69 Apr 23 · Ffos Las

    3As Leisure New & Used Caravan Sales Novices' Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    9 Apr 23
    Course
    Ffos Las
    Race
    3As Leisure New & Used Caravan Sales Novices' Hurdle
    This horse
    3/6
    Winner next time
    Cuthbert Dibble (IRE)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    30 Jan 24
    Race won
    Cuffe And Taylor Handicap Hurdle

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardOR first runOR last runBest ORRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Olly Murphy21 Mar 2323 Nov 231/8117117117421150.0%75.0%£15,168€0
Olly Murphy
First run
21 Mar 23
Last run
23 Nov 23
First run for yard
1/8
OR first run
117
OR last run
117
Best OR
117
Runs
4
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
50.0%
Place %
75.0%
Prize GB (£)
£15,168
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)Best ORFirst runLast run
National Hunt421150.0%75.0%£15,168€011721 Mar 2323 Nov 23
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
4
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
50.0%
Place %
75.0%
Prize GB (£)
£15,168
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Best OR
117
First run
21 Mar 23
Last run
23 Nov 23

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Hurdle311133.3%66.7%£7,133€0
Chase1100100.0%100.0%£8,035€0
Hurdle
Race type
Hurdle
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
33.3%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£7,133
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Chase
Race type
Chase
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£8,035
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Good to Soft1100100.0%100.0%£8,035€0
Soft311133.3%66.7%£7,133€0
Good to Soft
Going
Good to Soft
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£8,035
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Soft
Going
Soft
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
33.3%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£7,133
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
2m2f to 2m5f311133.3%66.7%£7,133€0
2m6f to 3m1f1100100.0%100.0%£8,035€0
2m2f to 2m5f
Distance
2m2f to 2m5f
Runs
3
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
33.3%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£7,133
Prize IRE (€)
€0
2m6f to 3m1f
Distance
2m6f to 3m1f
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£8,035
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Market Rasen2200100.0%100.0%£12,120€0
Ffos Las20110.0%50.0%£3,048€0
Market Rasen
Runs
2
Wins
2
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£12,120
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Ffos Las
Course
Ffos Las
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£3,048
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Class 4421150.0%75.0%£15,168€0
Class 4
Class
Class 4
Runs
4
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
50.0%
Place %
75.0%
Prize GB (£)
£15,168
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
6 to 8 runners421150.0%75.0%£15,168€0
6 to 8 runners
Runners
6 to 8 runners
Runs
4
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
50.0%
Place %
75.0%
Prize GB (£)
£15,168
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
March1100100.0%100.0%£4,085€0
April10010.0%0.0%£1,041€0
May10100.0%100.0%£2,007€0
November1100100.0%100.0%£8,035€0
March
Month
March
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,085
Prize IRE (€)
€0
April
Month
April
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,041
Prize IRE (€)
€0
May
Month
May
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,007
Prize IRE (€)
€0
November
Month
November
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£8,035
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Fergus Gregory210150.0%50.0%£5,125€0
Sean Bowen211050.0%100.0%£10,042€0
Fergus Gregory
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
50.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£5,125
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Sean Bowen
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£10,042
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Olly Murphy421150.0%75.0%£15,168€0
Olly Murphy
Runs
4
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
50.0%
Place %
75.0%
Prize GB (£)
£15,168
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear421150.0%75.0%£15,168€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
4
Wins
2
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
50.0%
Place %
75.0%
Prize GB (£)
£15,168
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run1100100.0%100.0%£4,085€0
15 to 30 days20110.0%50.0%£3,048€0
121 to 365 days1100100.0%100.0%£8,035€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,085
Prize IRE (€)
€0
15 to 30 days
Days since last run
15 to 30 days
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£3,048
Prize IRE (€)
€0
121 to 365 days
Days since last run
121 to 365 days
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£8,035
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchNetwork (GER)

Parent · 1

  1. SireNetwork (GER)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchEscort'beauty (FR)

Parent · 1

  1. DamEscort'beauty (FR)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireRobin Des Champs (FR)
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Network (GER)
Escort'beauty (FR)
Not traced
Not traced
Robin Des Champs (FR)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseThe Same (FR)
Sexgelding
Foaled2017
SireNetwork (GER)
DamEscort'beauty (FR)
DamsireRobin Des Champs (FR)
Dam's produce1 winners from 2 runners
Notable siblingThatsmyseat (FR)

Female line

  1. Escort'beauty (FR) · 1 winners from 2 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireBreederFoaledColourSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Network (GER)Escort'beauty (FR)Robin Des Champs (FR)Emmanuel Clayeux15 May 17baygeldingNH 2m3½fFlat 15.4f · NH 2m3½f
Network (GER)
Breeder
Emmanuel Clayeux
Foaled
15 May 17
Colour
bay
Sex
gelding
Sire's avg winning distance
NH 2m3½f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 15.4f · NH 2m3½f

Progeny of Network (GER) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs2,43134580414.2%33.1%42
At 2m2f to 2m5f86111428313.2%32.9%31
On Soft going6438120812.6%32.3%31
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Soft going217225910.1%27.2%31
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
2,431
Wins
345
Placed
804
Win %
14.2%
Place %
33.1%
This horse runs
4
This horse wins
2
At 2m2f to 2m5f
Condition
At 2m2f to 2m5f
Runs
861
Wins
114
Placed
283
Win %
13.2%
Place %
32.9%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
1
On Soft going
Condition
On Soft going
Runs
643
Wins
81
Placed
208
Win %
12.6%
Place %
32.3%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
1
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Soft going
Condition
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Soft going
Runs
217
Wins
22
Placed
59
Win %
10.1%
Place %
27.2%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
1

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Network (GER) × Robin Des Champs (FR) mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt8225.0%0514147.8%£50,688€26,620
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
8
Winners
2
Winners %
25.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
51
Wins
4
2nd/3rd
14
Win %
7.8%
Prize GB (£)
£50,688
Prize IRE (€)
€26,620

All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
The Same (FR)420£15,168€0
Dynamic Allen (FR)2320£0€25,520
I'm The Diva (FR)100£350€0
Captain Forez (FR)300£28,940€0
Express Des Mottes (FR)400£0€0
At The Top (FR)400£525€0
Interconnected (GB)500£5,705€0
Boulon Trou (FR)700£0€1,100
The Same (FR)
Runs
4
Wins
2
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£15,168
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Dynamic Allen (FR)
Runs
23
Wins
2
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€25,520
I'm The Diva (FR)
Runs
1
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£350
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Captain Forez (FR)
Runs
3
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£28,940
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Express Des Mottes (FR)
Runs
4
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
At The Top (FR)
Runs
4
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£525
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Interconnected (GB)
Runs
5
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£5,705
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Boulon Trou (FR)
Runs
7
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€1,100

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Ratings

Official ratings

CodeCurrent ORHighest ORLowest ORLast winning ORLast winRated runs
National Hunt11711711711723 Nov 232
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
117
Highest OR
117
Lowest OR
117
Last winning OR
117
Last win
23 Nov 23
Rated runs
2

Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.

Official rating by run

DateCourseCodeORChangePos
23 Nov 23Market RasenNH11701/6
9 May 23Ffos LasNH117-2/6

Current mark v winning marks

CodeCurrent OROR last runChangeLast winning ORLast winv last winningHighest winning ORv highest winningHighest ORv highest
National Hunt117117011723 Nov 23011701170
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
117
OR last run
117
Change
0
Last winning OR
117
Last win
23 Nov 23
v last winning
0
Highest winning OR
117
v highest winning
0
Highest OR
117
v highest
0

Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.

Family

Dam summary

Escort'beauty (FR)

G1 winners
0
Produce
1 winners from 2 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Network (GER) out of Escort'beauty (FR) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Samum (GER)

Female line

  1. 1Escort'beauty (FR)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

In brief

How old is The Same?

The Same (FR), a bay racehorse, was foaled on 15 May 2017 and is 9 years old.

Who are the sire and dam of The Same?

The Same (FR) is by Network (GER) out of Escort'beauty (FR), a daughter of Robin Des Champs (FR), and was bred by Emmanuel Clayeux.

Who trained The Same?

The Same (FR) was trained by Olly Murphy and owned by Premier Plastering Uk Limited at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is The Same's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, The Same (FR) won 2 of 4 races (50%).

What is The Same's biggest win?

The Same (FR)'s biggest wins in Britain and Ireland were 2 Class 4 victories, most recently the Pertemps Network Novices' Handicap Chase at Market Rasen on 23 November 2023.

Has The Same ever been beaten?

The Same (FR) was beaten twice in 4 runs in Britain and Ireland, the first time on 9 April 2023 at Ffos Las (3rd of 6).

What was The Same's official rating?

The Same (FR) was last officially rated 117 over jumps (also the career high).

Is The Same still racing?

The Same (FR) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 23 November 2023 at Market Rasen in the Pertemps Network Novices' Handicap Chase, finishing 1st of 6, and has not run there since.

What is The Same's record at Market Rasen?

The Same (FR) ran most often at Market Rasen, with 2 wins from 2 runs there.

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