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Horse profile
Playing With Fire (GB)
- TrainerMichael Bell
- OwnerCharles Needham
- FamilyCinderwench
- Sex
- filly
- Foaled
- 1986
See also: Playing With Fire (IRE) · Robin Dickin · 36 runs · 3 wins
- Highest OR
- 53
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 1 run (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last official rating
- 53 (Flat)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 1 Mar 1990, Lingfield (AW) (11/11)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 Mar 90 | Lingfield (AW) | 11/11 | 3/1J | 10¾ | Tony Clark | Michael Bell | Osprey Handicap | Handicap (unclassified) | Flat AW | 1m2f | Standard | 9-3 | 53 | Valiant Red (GB) | £2,427 | 1/10 |
- 11/111 Mar 90 · Lingfield (AW)3/1J
Osprey Handicap
Handicap (unclassified)1m2fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 1 Mar 90
- Course
- Lingfield (AW)
- Pos
- 11/11
- SP
- 3/1J
- Btn
- 10¾
- Jockey
- Tony Clark
- Trainer
- Michael Bell
- Race
- Osprey Handicap
- Class
- Handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 1m2f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-3
- OR
- 53
- Winner / 2nd
- Valiant Red (GB)
- Winner prize
- £2,427
- Future form
- 1/10
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 Mar 90 | Lingfield (AW) | Osprey Handicap | 11/11 | Crosby Place (GB) | 2 | 23 Mar 90 | Doncaster | Garden City Crystal Ladies Only Handicap Stakes |
- 11/111 Mar 90 · Lingfield (AW)
Osprey Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 1 Mar 90
- Course
- Lingfield (AW)
- Race
- Osprey Handicap
- This horse
- 11/11
- Winner next time
- Crosby Place (GB)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 23 Mar 90
- Race won
- Garden City Crystal Ladies Only Handicap Stakes
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Michael Bell | 1 Mar 90 | 1 Mar 90 | 11/11 | 53 | 53 | 53 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Michael Bell
- Trainer
- Michael Bell
- First run
- 1 Mar 90
- Last run
- 1 Mar 90
- First run for yard
- 11/11
- OR first run
- 53
- OR last run
- 53
- Best OR
- 53
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 53 | 1 Mar 90 | 1 Mar 90 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 53
- First run
- 1 Mar 90
- Last run
- 1 Mar 90
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchMr Fluorocarbon (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchCinderwench (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireCrooner (GB)
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Cinderwench (GB) · 1 winners from 5 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mr Fluorocarbon (GB) | Cinderwench (GB) | Crooner (GB) | filly | Flat 6.5f · NH 2m1f | Flat 8.9f · NH 2m4½f |
Mr Fluorocarbon (GB)
- Damsire
- Crooner (GB)
- Sex
- filly
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 6.5f · NH 2m1f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 8.9f · NH 2m4½f
Progeny of Mr Fluorocarbon (GB) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 89 | 2 | 9 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 9f to 11f | 24 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 0 | ||
| On AW going | 10 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 9f to 11f on AW going | 3 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 89
- Wins
- 2
- Placed
- 9
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 9f to 11f
- Condition
- At 9f to 11f
- Runs
- 24
- Wins
- 0
- Placed
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
On AW going
- Condition
- On AW going
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 0
- Placed
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 9f to 11f on AW going
- Condition
- At 9f to 11f on AW going
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- Placed
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Mr Fluorocarbon (GB) × Crooner mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Playing With Fire (GB) | 1 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Playing With Fire (GB)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 53 | 53 | 53 | 1 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 53
- Highest OR
- 53
- Lowest OR
- 53
- Rated runs
- 1
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
| Date | Course | Code | OR | Pos |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 Mar 90 | Lingfield (AW) | Flat | 53 | 11/11 |
- 11/111 Mar 90 · Lingfield (AW)
All fields
- Date
- 1 Mar 90
- Course
- Lingfield (AW)
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 53
- Pos
- 11/11
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 53 | 53 | 0 | 53 | 0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 53
- OR last run
- 53
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 53
- v highest
- 0
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 1 winners from 5 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Mr Fluorocarbon (GB) out of Cinderwench (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Star Appeal (GB)
- Broad Appeal I (GB)2W · 23R
By Dunbeath (USA)
- After The Fire (GB)0W · 6R
By Nicholas (USA)
- Ember (GB)0W · 17R
By Absalom (GB)
- Youme The Gatepost (GB)0W · 2R
Female line
- 1Cinderwench (GB)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Playing With Fire foaled?
Playing With Fire (GB) was foaled in 1986.
Who are the sire and dam of Playing With Fire?
Playing With Fire (GB) is by Mr Fluorocarbon (GB) out of Cinderwench (GB), a daughter of Crooner (GB).
Who trained Playing With Fire?
Playing With Fire (GB) was trained by Michael Bell and owned by Charles Needham at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Playing With Fire's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Playing With Fire (GB) ran 1 time without winning.
What was Playing With Fire's official rating?
Playing With Fire (GB) was last officially rated 53 on the Flat (also the career high).
Is Playing With Fire still racing?
Playing With Fire (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 1 March 1990 at Lingfield (AW) in the Osprey Handicap, finishing 11th of 11, and has not run there since.
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