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Horse profile
Persuading
- TrainerCharlie Appleby
- OwnerGodolphin
- FamilyMuch Too Risky
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 2016
- Colour
- bay
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £1,722 GB
- Last official rating
- 65 (Flat)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 21 Jun 2019, Newmarket (July) (3/7)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 21 Jun 19 | Newmarket (July) | 3/7 | 6/1 | 1¾ | Kerrin McEvoy | Charlie Appleby | Palace House Newmarket British EBF Novice Stakes | Class 4 | Flat Turf | 1m2f | Good to Soft | 9-2 | Logician (GB) | £5,822 | 127 | 2/6 |
| 14 Feb 19 | Chelmsford (AW) | 3/10 | 11/4 | 4¼ | Shane Kelly | Charlie Appleby | Double Delight Hat-Trick Heaven At totesport.com Novice Stakes | Class 4 | Flat AW | 1m2f | Standard | 9-2 | Cirque Royal (GB) | £5,757 | - | 2/8 |
- 3/721 Jun 19 · Newmarket (July)6/1
Palace House Newmarket British EBF Novice Stakes
Class 41m2fGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 21 Jun 19
- Course
- Newmarket (July)
- Pos
- 3/7
- SP
- 6/1
- Btn
- 1¾
- Jockey
- Kerrin McEvoy
- Trainer
- Charlie Appleby
- Race
- Palace House Newmarket British EBF Novice Stakes
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m2f
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 9-2
- Winner / 2nd
- Logician (GB)
- Winner prize
- £5,822
- Days
- 127
- Future form
- 2/6
- 3/1014 Feb 19 · Chelmsford (AW)11/4
Double Delight Hat-Trick Heaven At totesport.com Novice Stakes
Class 41m2fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 14 Feb 19
- Course
- Chelmsford (AW)
- Pos
- 3/10
- SP
- 11/4
- Btn
- 4¼
- Jockey
- Shane Kelly
- Trainer
- Charlie Appleby
- Race
- Double Delight Hat-Trick Heaven At totesport.com Novice Stakes
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 1m2f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-2
- Winner / 2nd
- Cirque Royal (GB)
- Winner prize
- £5,757
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 2/8
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 21 Jun 19 | Newmarket (July) | Palace House Newmarket British EBF Novice Stakes | 3/7 | Logician (GB) | 1 | 4 Jul 19 | Newbury | Rancho Zabaco Handicap |
| 21 Jun 19 | Newmarket (July) | Palace House Newmarket British EBF Novice Stakes | 3/7 | Away He Goes (IRE) | 2 | 11 Jul 19 | Newbury | Kennet Centre Novice Stakes |
| 14 Feb 19 | Chelmsford (AW) | Double Delight Hat-Trick Heaven At totesport.com Novice Stakes | 3/10 | Cirque Royal (GB) | 1 | 15 Mar 19 | Lingfield (AW) | Ladbrokes Home Of The Odds Boost Novice Stakes |
| 14 Feb 19 | Chelmsford (AW) | Double Delight Hat-Trick Heaven At totesport.com Novice Stakes | 3/10 | Ragnar (GB) | 2 | 12 Mar 19 | Wolverhampton (AW) | Ladbrokes Home Of The Odds Boost Novice Stakes |
- 3/721 Jun 19 · Newmarket (July)
Palace House Newmarket British EBF Novice Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 21 Jun 19
- Course
- Newmarket (July)
- Race
- Palace House Newmarket British EBF Novice Stakes
- This horse
- 3/7
- Winner next time
- Logician (GB)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 4 Jul 19
- At
- Newbury
- Race won
- Rancho Zabaco Handicap
- 3/721 Jun 19 · Newmarket (July)
Palace House Newmarket British EBF Novice Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 21 Jun 19
- Course
- Newmarket (July)
- Race
- Palace House Newmarket British EBF Novice Stakes
- This horse
- 3/7
- Winner next time
- Away He Goes (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 11 Jul 19
- At
- Newbury
- Race won
- Kennet Centre Novice Stakes
- 3/1014 Feb 19 · Chelmsford (AW)
Double Delight Hat-Trick Heaven At totesport.com Novice Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 14 Feb 19
- Course
- Chelmsford (AW)
- Race
- Double Delight Hat-Trick Heaven At totesport.com Novice Stakes
- This horse
- 3/10
- Winner next time
- Cirque Royal (GB)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 15 Mar 19
- At
- Lingfield (AW)
- Race won
- Ladbrokes Home Of The Odds Boost Novice Stakes
- 3/1014 Feb 19 · Chelmsford (AW)
Double Delight Hat-Trick Heaven At totesport.com Novice Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 14 Feb 19
- Course
- Chelmsford (AW)
- Race
- Double Delight Hat-Trick Heaven At totesport.com Novice Stakes
- This horse
- 3/10
- Winner next time
- Ragnar (GB)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 12 Mar 19
- At
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Race won
- Ladbrokes Home Of The Odds Boost Novice Stakes
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Charlie Appleby | 14 Feb 19 | 21 Jun 19 | 3/10 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | £1,722 | €0 |
Charlie Appleby
- Trainer
- Charlie Appleby
- First run
- 14 Feb 19
- Last run
- 21 Jun 19
- First run for yard
- 3/10
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,722
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | £1,722 | €0 | 14 Feb 19 | 21 Jun 19 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,722
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 14 Feb 19
- Last run
- 21 Jun 19
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchOasis Dream (GB)
Parent · 1
- SireOasis Dream (GB)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireGreen Desert (USA)
- Sire's damHope (IRE)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchShort Skirt (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireDiktat (GB)
- Dam's damMuch Too Risky (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Short Skirt (GB) · by Diktat (GB) · 4 winners from 6 runners · Group 3 winner (3 black-type wins)
- Much Too Risky (GB) · 11 winners from 14 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Breeder | Foaled | Colour | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oasis Dream (GB) | Short Skirt (GB) | Diktat (GB) | Godolphin | 28 Feb 16 | bay | gelding | Flat 7.3f · NH 2m2f | Flat 7.9f · NH 2m2½f |
Oasis Dream (GB)
- Sire
- Oasis Dream (GB)
- Damsire
- Diktat (GB)
- Breeder
- Godolphin
- Foaled
- 28 Feb 16
- Colour
- bay
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 7.3f · NH 2m2f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 7.9f · NH 2m2½f
Progeny of Oasis Dream (GB) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 15,103 | 1,808 | 4,641 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 9f to 11f | 2,305 | 228 | 646 | 2 | 0 | ||
| On AW going | 5,738 | 711 | 1,829 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 9f to 11f on AW going | 937 | 104 | 293 | 1 | 0 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 15,103
- Wins
- 1,808
- Placed
- 4,641
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 9f to 11f
- Condition
- At 9f to 11f
- Runs
- 2,305
- Wins
- 228
- Placed
- 646
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
On AW going
- Condition
- On AW going
- Runs
- 5,738
- Wins
- 711
- Placed
- 1,829
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 9f to 11f on AW going
- Condition
- At 9f to 11f on AW going
- Runs
- 937
- Wins
- 104
- Placed
- 293
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Oasis Dream (GB) × Diktat (GB) mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 2 | 1 | 0 | 20 | 2 | 7 | £11,888 | €0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 2
- Winners
- 1
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 20
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd/3rd
- 7
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £11,888
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Alkadi (IRE) | 18 | 2 | 0 | £10,166 | €0 |
| Persuading (IRE) | 2 | 0 | 0 | £1,722 | €0 |
Alkadi (IRE)
- Horse
- Alkadi (IRE)
- Runs
- 18
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £10,166
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Persuading (IRE)
- Horse
- Persuading (IRE)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,722
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- Record
- Group 3 winner (3 black-type wins)
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 4 winners from 6 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Oasis Dream (GB) out of Short Skirt (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Street Cry (IRE)
- Minidress (GB)1W · 4R
- Volcanic Sky (GB)4W · 20R
By Dansili (GB)
- Pantoloni (GB)0W · 5R
By Dubawi (IRE)
- Movie Set (USA)3W · 12R
By Shamardal (USA)
- Stunning Beauty (IRE)3W · 13R
Female line
- 1Short Skirt (GB) · by Diktat (GB)
- 2Much Too Risky (GB)
Notable relatives
Nephew (out of a sibling)
- Rebel's Romance (IRE)8W · 10R · 6 black-type
- Fortitudine (IRE)3W · 3R · 1 black-type
Uncle (out of 2nd dam)
- Little Rock (GB)5W · 12R · 3 black-type
Dam
- Short Skirt (GB)4W · 7R · 3 black-type
Aunt (out of 2nd dam)
- Whitewater Affair (GB)3W · 12R · 2 black-type
- Seductress (GB)3W · 7R · 1 black-type
First cousin once removed
- Cappella Sansevero (GB)4W · 10R · 2 black-type
First cousin twice removed
- Kitty Rose (GB)2W · 6R · 1 black-type
In brief
When was Persuading foaled?
Persuading (IRE), a bay racehorse, was foaled on 28 February 2016.
Who are the sire and dam of Persuading?
Persuading (IRE) is by Oasis Dream (GB) out of Short Skirt (GB), a daughter of Diktat (GB), and was bred by Godolphin.
Who trained Persuading?
Persuading (IRE) was trained by Charlie Appleby and owned by Godolphin at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Persuading's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Persuading (IRE) ran 2 times without winning.
Is Persuading still racing?
Persuading (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 21 June 2019 at Newmarket (July) in the Palace House Newmarket British EBF Novice Stakes, finishing 3rd of 7, and has not run there since.
Is Persuading related to any top horses?
Persuading (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Short Skirt (GB) (dam, Group 3 winner), Rebel's Romance (IRE) (nephew, Group 2 winner) and Little Rock (GB) (uncle, Group 2 winner), from the Much Too Risky (GB) family.
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